Boeing vanguard

[magic moth]

post dock here and where you will be using it

[barren vine]

this thread title could be a badass gaming team name ngl

[magic moth]

@fallen basin where do you the vanguard?

[fallen basin]

Wait what

[heady patrol]

just use the tier list site, read the descs of the vans that u have, and plan accordingly

[fallen basin]

Beside tier list

[magic moth]

these you only leveled?

[fallen basin]

Yes

[magic moth]

how about unleveled/non-MLB?

[fallen basin]

Err all is purple

Thats all for vangaurd

[magic moth]

where would you need the vanguard?

[fallen basin]

Opsi

2 boss 2 mob

Also enty+illu+formi good?

Hood+inde+ryuu good?

[barren vine]

Ibuki/Ayanami/Marie for torpmeme or Manual bossing
Portkai/Helena/Balti for bossing within CV comp/Auto bossing

[heady patrol]

pair balti with enty

[magic moth]

hood for mobbing

[fallen basin]

For mob

Is balti goof for boss?

[barren vine]

better if u have USS CV, she still good without them nevertheless

[heady patrol]

she can be used in boss if paired with enty, or mob if used without any uss cv

just don't pair her with a uss cv that isn't used for dmg otherwise her bonus AVI is wasted

[fallen basin]

I need 2 vanguard for boss

[heady patrol]

aya + helena perhaps

[barren vine]

yeah this

[fallen basin]

Bro i confuswe u guys idea different

Belo+war+vv

[magic moth]

san fran/london/swiftsure for you BB HE boss fleet

[fallen basin]

I newd a vanguard pair this

[magic moth]

you can use this
san-fran/london/swiftsure for you BB

[fallen basin]

How about second one

[barren vine]

that looks like a mobbing BB comp

not much about second fleet because you have limited ships

[fallen basin]

Ik

I just need a suggestion without based on ship

[barren vine]

then if u can manual, Ibuki/Helena/Ayanami

[magic moth]

for your CV Fleet
Portkai/Helena/Balti
for your BB fleet
sanfran/london/swiftsure
for you mob fleet
takao/marie rose/sandy

if you have noshiro you can instead run
noshiro/marie rose/sandy in you mob fleet

[fallen basin]

How good is portkai's attack?

[barren vine]

great shelling

[magic moth]

average i think but great tank

[fallen basin]

Heinrich+ayaya+ibuki?

[barren vine]

no change heinrich with helena or marie depends if u can time helena's proc

[fallen basin]

I dont use helkai with heinrich

[barren vine]

yeah so u change heinrich

[magic moth]

you know what, just send your OpSI fleet and whole dock

[barren vine]

then put helena kai or marie

[fallen basin]

Wait i jot down first

[barren vine]

sure sure xD

[fallen basin]

Takao good?

[barren vine]

if u dont wanna constantly stress out on helena procs then
Ibuki front/Ayanami middle/Marie Back

[magic moth]

yeah

[fallen basin]

Kk

I newd a fleet that do many damage

[heady patrol]

hard to decide on vans without knowing ur mains

they need to synergize if u want max damage

[fallen basin]

Heinrich down

I am griding monarch and geogia

[barren vine]

ok ill list out imo the highest dmg ceiling fleet possible assuming if maxed level
CV - Shoukaku/Formi/Enty - Port/Helena/Balti
BB (preferably vs light) - Warkai/Doy/Jean Bart - Belfast/London/San Fran
All for bossing

[fallen basin]

So incude ot alsl

[magic moth]

for BB fleet
DoY/hood/warspite
portland/london/swiftsure
for CV fleet
enty/Shangrila/lusty or Hiryuu/Shoukaku/Souryuu
sanfran/helena/baltimore
for mob fleet
Vittorio/Sovetskaya/ryuuhou
takao/sandy/marie rose

4th fleet can be whatever you want

[fallen basin]

Bro u guys idea different

[magic moth]

ehh not really, one or two ships are different

[barren vine]

its fine i only stated mine for future purposes and solely for bossing only

[fallen basin]

Vv+belo+warkai good?

[barren vine]

hence "assuming if maxed level"

[magic moth]

kinda similar fleets so just try which you think is better

[fallen basin]

Monarch+doy+geogia good?

[magic moth]

yes

[fallen basin]

[barren vine]

change doy with warkai since it looks like vs Armored bossing
Monarch slow is already ok

[fallen basin]

I want balanced

I will think first

[cursive coyote]

defined balanced?

[barren vine]

monarch and georgia would suck vs light armor

[fallen basin]

Balanced

[heady patrol]

medium armor lol

[fallen basin]

For heavy boss

[cursive coyote]

for heavy boss just use CV

[barren vine]

then for heavy boss use CV

[magic moth]

for heavy i use CV

[fallen basin]

illus+formi+enty good?

[magic moth]

yes

[heady patrol]

I don't think a fleet of 3 cvs is a good idea when u want 4 of them

[fallen basin]

Which ship better than hiid

[magic moth]

monarch

[fallen basin]

Mob

Monarch good for boss

[barren vine]

good for medium armor boss, dont use vs light armor ok

[fallen basin]

[magic moth]

sovetskaya belorrosiya or whatever her name is

[magic moth]

that doesnt mean she's bad in mob

[heady patrol]

she's still better used in boss while someone else takes her spot

[barren vine]

then use belorussiya instead for mobbing if u want monarch in boss

[fallen basin]

Belo also boss

[cursive coyote]

forcus on building ur boss fleet first then ur mob fleet tbh
here another opinion
warkai VV dork sanfran helena swiftsure for 1st boss fleet
enty kaga akagi atago sandiego portland for 2nd boss fleet
hood unicorn saratoga tashkent muse london marie for mob fleet

[fallen basin]

Hell no akaga

[barren vine]

dont u have nagato

[fallen basin]

No

[cursive coyote]

you only use them to fight boss
they not going to get any exp
why care
they are the most leveled cv in ur fleet

[magic moth]

this making my head hurt good luck to y'all

[fallen basin]

No enough good

That one for mob o ly

I focus at boss

[cursive coyote]

ur choice

[fallen basin]

Err ok

What happen if monarch+doy+geogia merge

[cursive coyote]

nothin to specieal

[fallen basin]

Warkai+doy+geogia

[cursive coyote]

vv doy warkai still out perform them

geogia and monarch needed dev 30
and even then they wont be as good generally

cause VV doy and warkai are more gun focus
so if u fighting different amour type
just change the gun would do the work

you cant change barrage ammo type

[fallen basin]

Monarch+belo+geogia

[cursive coyote]

belou needed flag for her barrage which deal ~50% of her dmg to landed

[quartz galleon]

monarch belo have fixed barrage

[barren vine]

you are just mixing stuffs right now thats bad

[cursive coyote]

mixing stuff is good

[fallen basin]

Wit

Wut

[cursive coyote]

just know what u are doing, but this is far from it

[barren vine]

doesnt look like it, yeah

[heady patrol]

the issue is he doesn't know what makes a ship good

he prob just sees SR and thinks 'this is meta!'

[fallen basin]

I poor at merging

[cursive coyote]

for ur 4th fleet
just use the most leveled leftover
doesnt matter if they are synergie or not

[barren vine]

@fallen basin just make out with the ship comps we listed and give them a try

[cursive coyote]

level > 90% everything else

[fallen basin]

Well i try my current setup first

[cursive coyote]

the hardest part of opsiren have bosses that are level 128

[heady patrol]

make out with the ship

[cursive coyote]

be prepare for it for a few month i g

[fallen basin]

Yea lvl 128 boss

[cursive coyote]

take it slow

[barren vine]

even worse if low adapt

[fallen basin]

Wait

[cursive coyote]

opsiren is super grindy and time consuming

[fallen basin]

Ryuu+inde+alabama?

Can?

[barren vine]

yeah good mobbing fleet

[cursive coyote]

that work

[fallen basin]

What is flag actually

I have no idea

[heady patrol]

flagship, center

[barren vine]

center position of backline

[fallen basin]

Nelson flag

That one is flagship

[barren vine]

yeah

[fallen basin]

What nelsom flag do

[barren vine]

redirect dmg

[cursive coyote]

being useless most of the time

[heady patrol]

nelson needs flagship for barrage

[cursive coyote]

have some pvp niche but just stats really

[fallen basin]

Wdym redirect dmg?

[barren vine]

nelson flag is only usable on FDG to proc her barrage for mobbing

[cursive coyote]

it the gear

[barren vine]

other than that nelson flag useless

[fallen basin]

Belo need flag?

[cursive coyote]

yes

[barren vine]

no if u mean nelson flag

[fallen basin]

Bepo use nelson flag

[barren vine]

nooo

[fallen basin]

Why bro

[cursive coyote]

actualyl

u can use it

[fallen basin]

Best setup

[cursive coyote]

but it worse than normal setup which are black shell and white shell

or hpfcr

[barren vine]

its pretty useless just use hsfcr/white shell/black shell

[fallen basin]

Vadim blyat

Different idea

[barren vine]

the stats are good but, youd be better off using the optimal bb equipment

[fallen basin]

Ok i have 3 pack of black and white shell

I still need 4 more pack of black and white shell

[cursive coyote]

you can switch gear around while fighting in opsiren
there no restriction
so technically u only needed 3 pair of shells

[fallen basin]

I newd 6400 core

[barren vine]

oh i see then just use it if ur lazy switching gears

[fallen basin]

For black white shell

[barren vine]

lol

[fallen basin]

Bro switch gear waste time

[barren vine]

gl then

[cursive coyote]

[barren vine]

i feel you

[cursive coyote]

u can buy max 1 pair per month too

so

[heady patrol]

how else are u supposed to experiment without switching gear and 'wasting time'?

[fallen basin]

I keep doing 5-2

I guess i need to do 8-2

[barren vine]

do w12 its doable with your current fleet

[cursive coyote]

he talking about hard mode

[fallen basin]

I means hard mode

[barren vine]

by asking gph

[cursive coyote]

do w10

[barren vine]

i see

[fallen basin]

8-2 hard mode

[fallen basin]

I will die

[cursive coyote]

or 11

the higher the better

[fallen basin]

But if max lvl good

Current i can do is like 8-4 hard mode

[barren vine]

its fine as long as you do hardmode every day, you can buy 1 pair of black/white shell per month