#Fleet effectivity?
latent flint
@trim meteor you can post images of your dock here
there's no timeout either, so you can ask anything you want without worrying about spam
trim meteor
Actually, i don't feel that i have proper gear on my ships. According to Usagi Sensei's Tier List my ships are around T0 - T1, fleet power is both around ~10k both for Main or Vanguard. Still, i can't clear all the nods on 9-3 to achieve 3 stars
trim meteor
there's no timeout either, so you can ask anything you want without worrying abo...
Thank you
I'll now send my dock screenshots
latent flint
Don't use Usagi tierlist, it's kinda shit
mellow cedar
usagi sensei tier list...yeah i can see problesm already
mellow cedar
and fleet power isnt a metric to look at as well btw
cedar dust
Actually, i don't feel that i have proper gear on my ships. According to Usagi S...
Post your fleet, Even with good ships and just okay gear; You should not have problems pushing worlds.
cedar dust
Impossible.
With those ships, you can't full clear!?
mellow cedar
i can already see a lack of healer in your mob fleet which can cause issues
latent flint
On the bright side, you've got some amazing options. Tho I can see why you'd think 9-2 is too expensive
so lets get this sorted, which fleet are you using for mobbing?
and which one are you using for bossing?
trim meteor
Impossible.
With ***those*** ships, you can't full clear!?
I saw that :c
cedar dust
I copied the wrong text.
trim meteor
so lets get this sorted, which fleet are you using for mobbing?
KMS one, bosses are IJN one
And I CAN clear bosses, but can't go 3 stars
cedar dust
Manual pilot?
trim meteor
Either it takes effort, which it shouldnt
unborn jasper
faction fleets are generally not conducive to progressing story
you want to understand the role of each ship in your fleet
latent flint
So here's the thing, a faction fleet isn't the best idea. And a KMS faction fleet is almost always lacklustre.
You ideally want ships with AoE damage and 1 healer in your mob fleet
So someone like Hood or Washington with their AoE barrages will be more consistent than Bismarck, especially since Bismarck's barrage is worse than some Vanguard barrages.
And your only healer option is Unicorn so you really want to include her in your mob fleet.
Even Sovetskaya Belorussiya is an excellent mobber. Better than Hood and Washy
trim meteor
Actually, the only reason i was playing full KMS was that i wanted to unlock Friedrich. But now i understand, that the only reason i didn't have problems before was that enemies were easy
latent flint
If you also want to read up on roles and all btw, https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbguide/fleetbuilding is a good read for new players
Ah, makes sense but trying to do PR xp grind while clearing maps isn't a good idea. After you clear a map 100% and clear it a few times more, it goes from Lethal to Safe. Safe maps are where you want to farm XP since it's much easier.
trim meteor
For some reason i feel really shy to interrupt you guys with my problem, due to your reaction i shouldn't even have them
latent flint
When you're clearing, you want to use your best ships due to lethal difficulty
unborn jasper
For some reason i feel really shy to interrupt you guys with my problem, due to ...
its fine, gph literally has help in the name
trim meteor
Ah, makes sense but trying to do PR xp grind while clearing maps isn't a good id...
Makes sense
cedar dust
If you coincidentally able to clear your PR XP with pushing worlds to begin with; Then do it.
But do not purposely use them to push the said worlds.
Like my fleets are originally heavy on USS heavy and I got both Georgia and Anchorage easily because, They are my highest level ships. I can't do any other factions for now.
latent flint
And a side note, your mob fleet vanguard is better for bossing. If you play on auto, you can run Prinz Heinrich, Roon Muse/Sandy and Helena in your boss fleet vanguard. Replace Kii with warspite and you're good to go.
Suzutsuki and Yukikaze aren't the best bossers. But they're excellent tanks for your mob fleet. Especially suzutsuki since she can tank and do great damage.
trim meteor
Thank you, i now see that i really misunderstood the role mechanic, especially with vanguard. I thought that tanks should do mobbing better
What about gear? Is there any fundamental things?
unborn jasper
you generally need a pretty tanky ship in the front of the boss fleet, since they'll take a lot of damage
unborn jasper
What about gear? Is there any fundamental things?
gear is pretty much entirely a pure numbers game, but you can ask about specific ships
latent flint
What about gear? Is there any fundamental things?
There's multiple guides for gear. But https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home. You can click on any ship here and get the most "plug and play" gear for that ship.
trim meteor
gear is pretty much entirely a pure numbers game, but you can ask about specific...
So i just take "top" ones and go full enhance?
latent flint
And this has more detailed explanations https://imgur.com/a/TNpH1rL
unborn jasper
use the nez guides/enctl
latent flint
So i just take "top" ones and go full enhance?
Gear can be a bit confusing by looking at in-game numbers. Since they don't have information about gun patterns and spread is a bit harder to grasp for someone new to it. So you can use the two guides as you're trying to learn about gearing.
trim meteor
Gear can be a bit confusing by looking at in-game numbers. Since they don't have...
Will do as you say, thank you
Will that thread disappear?
mellow cedar
it will archive
latent flint
this thread will archive. But you can always type /equip and /tierlist in #bot-spam to get both the links
trim meteor
Due to your words, some changes:
That's mob
And boss
What do you think, @latent flint
latent flint
Due to your words, some changes:
You still need a healer. You can replace Tirpitz with Unicorn. And put Suzutsuki in the tank position, sandy in off tank, swap out Ayanami for Z23.
trim meteor
Oh, well, didn't know
latent flint
Also, in the boss fleet put Heinrich in tank position
and Roon u in off tank. Helena goes mid
cedar dust
Z23 does better in auto, because her gun is gowods.
Ayanami more to manual as she does torp memes excellently.
trim meteor
Thank you all, helped me even tho i'm bad english speaker and pretty shy person
Will go take changes and test
trim meteor
No problem but... then again. Can I interest you of the 2-1 cult?
Sure
cedar dust
Perfect... Now change your nickname to ending with 2-1 Time as your end of the nickname.
