Tatoe OpSi Fleet Building

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Yes

Post fleets here

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have fun

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@mighty hawk we got thread

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Omg beautiful let me get my screenies

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All other ships i have are just lvl 85 and lower

But i have them

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Where is your mlb shinano

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1. Mob Fleet
2. BB Fleet
3. CV Fleet

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Help im dum

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Monarch doy spite BB fleet

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Perseus obvi mob fleet include. Amagi also prob good. Then... JB or Indep

or Perseus JB Indep

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essex formi shinano? for cv

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with Baltimore and helena to buff yes

er enterprise? is there an enterprise

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Name it and i have it

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Yeah he can run enty essex centaur CV

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i dont see one

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Whether its invested into yet is a diff issue but i can fix that

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Enty is lvl 109

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IJN mob fleet is pretty good, i don't see Ibuki or Noshiro though

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main fleets first

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USS mob fleet is probably a better choice

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Wow. This new feature is pretty handy.
We can bypass slow mode

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Shinano Centaur Formi CV fleet core is probably your best bet atm, if you can MLB that shinano anyway

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I can

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Yeah mlb the shinano asap

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oh there's Aquila

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Like do it now

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I have like

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alot of choices

damn

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Everything

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also work on Ark Royal

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If its not on the screen

Its just lvl 70 or something

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Mlb the nano

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I just need someone to tell me exact

Okay so mlb shinano?

Ill do it now

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ofc

shinano opie

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Shinano centaur formi for CV fleet

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here make these

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Yata thats bad advice

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lies

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them fleets slap

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tbh for mob fleet you can kinda just put together ships you wanna level + Perseus and be fine

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Yeah but ur not tailoring it to him specifically

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Perload gaming

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yeah but threads let me tweak according to what they can't do without being obnoxious

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[mighty hawk]

Ok what now

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time to gear her

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assuming you have every ship in the game at your disposal, these fleets are what i'd do

Mob: whatever + perseus
BB: FdG NJ DoY / Roon Muse Helena SF
CV: Shinano Ark Royal Centaur / Cheshire Kazagumo Sirius
HE: Richie VV Aquila / Azuma Duca Sanrui

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Papi thats not HE

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why do we not use formi

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yeah but it shreds the fuck outta everything

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that's a nice second mob fleet you got there

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That's mobbing with extra steps

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for shin

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cause i think we should take skill levels

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2 mob fleets is kinda pointless imo

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into avccount

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go double cata

[mighty hawk]

Bonus marks: im currently grinding anchorage for PR :

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i don't recommend jean bart ever because mine has set a very poor example for me and i forget that everyone else has different seeded jean barts

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she'll desync from Centaur iirc

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and tbh you should use Helena with CV fleets anyway

Accuracy buffers are nutso with BBs

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and sirius no

?

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Sirius Ariake (or any ARA) Helena is my vanguard yeah

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Yaboi tatoe is very VERY confused atm

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does this thread need slow mode lmao

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i'd rather run cheshire and ensure stealth better, although i guess in OpSi it's pretty easy or almost impossible to do so

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yeah i gave up on stealth for opsi

it's just not gonna happen when you need it

and when you don't need it you don't need it

[mighty hawk]

??? Wats stealth

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/stealth

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to recap and adding on

BB is Monarch spite doy
CV is Shinano centaur formi (replace formi with ark royal normal after shes grinded)
Mob is BB (preferably veneto or someone with wide barrage) + aquila + percy

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it's good to have cheshire around somewhere for when the meta fight is a CV tho

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CV Stealth

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/detection

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i doubt commands work in here

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/equip

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he has a dev 30 FdG

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yeah they don't

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bruh

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Nimi bot hasnt joined the thread so no commands

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[mighty hawk]

No i dont

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nvm that is NOT dev 30

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I have a dev10 fdg

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Thats a dev 10 fdg

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well
anyway imma
hf building fleets

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gn

i think we should factor in skill levels

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Anyways you understand the backline right?
Please say yes

Im factoring in ship levels ye

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cause fleets can be changed over time

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I dont understand it but yus

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ask for clarification where you need it then

one thing at a time

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basically CVs are stealthed if no enemy ships cross a threshold line

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Who else has a wide barrage

Bb

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Could use bama

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you want the barrage for mobbing?

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Yea that one

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this is mob flagship for reference

idk what to put there

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generally preloads are better, esp. since ideally fights are ending just as Alabama would fire her barrage anyway

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ofc other 2 slots are percy aquila

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richi

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So i gotta raise aquila oop

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yeah percy aquila should 100% be there because preloads are busted

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triple perload lets go

pre

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Well shes already mlb so shouldn't take too long

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Whats another good preload i might as well

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richie

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Richelieu

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if you have Vittorio she'd be my pick

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Or veneto

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I have both

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richi aquila vv percy

[mighty hawk]

Both uninvested

Pick 1

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she's slightly desynced from the CV preloaders

so she ends up doing a lil more work in my exp

either is fine tho

[mighty hawk]

Or does it just come down to taste

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richy could go to a dedicated light DPS fleet if that's your vibe

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VV Aquila Percy / Noshiro Duca Jintsuu

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oh wait vv isnt preload is she

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she is

basically

[mighty hawk]

I miss 2019 azur it was so simple

Run nagato and win

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I would level both richy and veneto

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^

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this fleet also gives you an extra option for enemies weak to torps

i like torp vanguard for mobbing a lot

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i like using Kii Sara Shoukaku for torp backlines but yeah if you want to consolidate like that you can

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hybrid torp/mob fleet was the first fleet i used in opsi and it had really good results

i used uh

[mighty hawk]

Id like to level things i can use in both opsi and w13

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Nagato Amagi Perseus / Noshiro Kitakaze Ibuki though

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the backline is what's carrying on mob in my exp. you can use basically any vanguard and it shreds

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So aquila pers is good for that

And uh

So vittorio vs richi

Is there any diff at all lmao

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IJN Gaming

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vitto is prob. better into 13 than richy but i wouldn't reach for either immediately

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i'd use richie in w13 mob and VV in w13 boss personally

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BB for w13 mobs weirdga

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richie carried my in w13 mobs

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stack CV all day

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preloads are strong

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yeah, perseus and aquila

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tbh

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featuring Independence

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if you want to level ships for W13 AND opsi

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it's all gonna be CVs

and New Jersey

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instead of bringing a BB in your mob fleet, run independence perseus aquila

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Do i need to do NJ as well

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Yes NJ is stronk

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New Jersey isn't really worth skipping in any sense

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Also independence? Maaaaaaaaaaan how many cvs do i need

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she's blatantly the best BB rn

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Indep is lower priority than NJ

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Indep is nice to have but not essential really

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NJ is literally a god reincarnated into AL

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i don't think there's a better mobbing CV for W13 than independence

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Perseus

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she's healer doesn't count

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I value high dps BBs over mobbing CVs

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perseus is a DPS too

anyway Tatoe, the thing about 13 is generally speaking you run mostly CVs

but for opsi you want at least one BB fleet

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Okay imma make myself a list of stuff to raise:
Independence
Aquila
Perseus
Shinano
New Jersey
VV

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so you can't really pick 9 ships and cover both seamlessly

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Add richy to that list as well

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But richy and vv do the same thing

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they do a similar thing

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eh thats true

also indep is lower priority than aquila and percy

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idk which i actually prefer but VV feels more versatile to me so that's my vote

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And probably lower than shinano and NJ as well

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VV buffs better ships imo

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I'd go NJ > Shinano > Perseus > Aquila > VV > Indep for prio

ideal BB fleet would be FdG DOY NJ, but of course FdG is kind of a problem here lol

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UR Ships opie

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could go for Richy or Howe instead of FdG for the meantime

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i think that would work if your mobber is diff no

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Could just seperate into a HE and AP BB fleet at that point

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that'd put a lot more ships on their plate

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????!!!!

Yall amazing but also hella confusin

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its fine

you'll get used to it

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what's confusing you now

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[mighty hawk]

Im a fossil that plays AL everyday

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Why doy? Isn't Howe better at buffing + dps?

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But never rly updated my roster

I was using unicorn for all my healing until 2 months ago

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dork has slow

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Unicorn is good fwiw

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Uhh problem the messages delete as we type more so i cant see your dock anymore...

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LOL

rough

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what

ouch

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like i cant scroll up that back

U can only go so far up

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wait no they don't

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#869731721082470471 message

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Tfw mobile discord is wack

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Would it be wise to run a USS and IJN CV fleet? (2 CV fleets) for USS to give in as much damage as they can so IJN can burst it down the final bars or nah

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maybe it just didn't load for you

but i can still go all the way back

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oh crap we cant pin

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not a fan of faction fleets

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USS CV mob fleet is pretty dope atm

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mob fleet is solved tho

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for Cleo

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If you wanna run double CV its gotta be one with rockets and one without otherwise both got same mods and its not worth imo to have 2 fleets that do essentially the same thing

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backline at least

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actually Cleo you should make your own thread

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Hmm fair

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write up your 4 fleets for reference

then we add vgs

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Also go back to gph this is tatoe help not gph

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Huh

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this is opsi tatoe help ye

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It doesnt say tatoe in the name tho

Poor cleo

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wait

I fix

Tatoe OpSi Fleet Building

there

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There are threads now for dedicated help

So ppl can get personalised help

Without drowning out everyone!

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pretty poggers feature ngl

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I'm confused, I have no idea what to do with my USS cvs now that I have nagacranes

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unless you abuse it

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ask in #gameplay-help

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So u need my 4 fleets here?

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Ignoring levels lets put your ideal fleets down first

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Yes ok lets do that

Ignore PR2 onwards pls i really can not be assed for pr bp grind

Ive got all pr1s dev30

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Shisleep Ark Centaur
NJ Dork Howe
Percy VV Aquila

i think thats 3

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1. jot down your ideal fleets and start working on the ships you need to
2. put the fleets together as best as you can for opsi, replacing ships that you don't have at 105-110 yet with similar ships so you can still do opsi
3. as you get the missing ships built, replace them in your opsi fleets

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i we can have two sets one for now and another you'll work towards cause skills is a think

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you can get a good amount of exp right now by grinding SP4 with shinano as a solo backline, for example

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veneto/bama percy aquila mobs
Richy/izumo doy howe/hyuuga BB1
Monarch NJ spite BB2
Shinano ark/formi centaur CV

I think would be fine

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monarch nj wihtout slow?

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monarch has a slow

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Idk if its good tho

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never noticed cause I dork

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If im lazy can i just skip ark for formi

I never use torp cvs anyway

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Yes

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yes

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sure

you leave a LOT of damage on the table in doing so, though

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yeah i mean limited to what's shown you could run with:
Mob: Aquila, Perseus, Indep/Jean Bart/Alabama + Heinrich, London, Sandy
BB: DOY Warspite Monarch + ......stuff
CV: Essex Enterprise Shinano + Sirius Helena Baltimore
4th: ....stuff
Subs: Archerfish Cavalla I-13

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yata my fleets are better

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yours are idealized

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[mighty hawk]

Revision on bb1 pls

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i mean we did say two sets

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Do i have any alternatives for that

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i'm following up with "here's what to use until you get those"

be happy I didn't put queen over Warspite

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there's no reason to NOT do opsi, so even though Tatoe has a list of ships to work on, they still need something to do opsi today and start farming all the gear lab mats

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Whats the issue specifically?

If no howe leveled use hyuuga kai

Then problem solved

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yeah that seems fine

hyuuga is a step down but it's not the worst thing

[mighty hawk]

Is my ijn backline really that irrelevant now

Rip nugget mamagi

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you could maybe do that for your fourth fleet for now

it's just not super great anymore, no

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Ideal
veneto percy aquila mobs
Richy/izumo doy howe BB1
Monarch NJ spite BB2
Shinano ark/formi centaur CV

For Now
Mob: Aquila, Perseus, Indep/Jean Bart/Alabama + Heinrich, London, Sandy
BB: DOY Warspite Monarch + ......stuff
CV: Essex Enterprise Shinano + Sirius Helena Baltimore
4th: Mamagi ....stuff
Subs: Archerfish Cavalla I-13

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that screen clear from her airstrike could potentially increase your vanguard's eHP

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really the ideal IJN fleet now is Nagato Shinano Haku fwiw

and Agir is an ideal BB vanguard ship

[mighty hawk]

Imagine having haku bps

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i'd rather not have haku bps

and have agir bps

[mighty hawk]

Imagine having fdg bps

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she'd be d20 by now

[mighty hawk]

Fml

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i'd rather anchorage bps

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its fine

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These are my opsi fleets, should I adjust anything?
Fleet 1: Mob
2: Ap
3: Cv
4: He
I don't have Richy sadly to boost champog

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take 'em i can d20 her probably

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you can use pr2 catchup

on fdg

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safe to assume no perseus

?

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Yep

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Belo flagship

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sandy on BB fleet is kinda weird. Look at Room or Aurora

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your cv fleet kinda cheeks ngl

[kind verge]

Almost forgot to make her flag

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fourth fleet is pretty shaky

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Try and see if you can run noshi duca torper mob vanguard

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smol spite is best offflag

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Baltimore isn't helping that CV fleet btw

look into an ARA DD

or Curlew

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Kazagumo?

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she works

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@kind verge i recommend starting to work on a proper CV converging torpmeme fleet

[kind verge]

Looks like I gotta throw her into the dorm after I finish the cranes, then I assume level noshi and make her mob tank?

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no shinano i take?

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Yep

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Duca can tank fine while you level Noshi

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Ark Mark Shoukaku

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110 is enough

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mark?

[late rampart]

meta ark

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Meta Ark

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ah

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My lvl 108 fleet of noshi duca jintsuu can auto c5 fractured easily

This is with a belo zep ryuuhou backline

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I dont have all of marks crystals, does naga shou ark sound fine?

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Keep nagato cranes then

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Ah

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What's this channel is for? there no disc for it

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even without all those torps i auto strongholds without heals currently with Duca PRake jda

[late rampart]

could do ark centaur shoukaku

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It started to help a man with opsi fleets

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now it's helping a different one with opsi fleets lol

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Then it slowly started to divert from it

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ahh ok then

so this is opsi gameplay help or just for opsi fleet building?

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this shouldn't really turn into "the opsi fleet building thread" imo

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yea

should kill it soon

sam kill it for me

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can post something like "I need help with opsi blah blah blah" in #gameplay-help and then start a thread off it and people will jump in

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@mighty hawk how many of the options listed here are not leveled for you?

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Moved them around, this fine enuf?

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or if it's a simple question a thread isn't needed really

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Like is there somewhere u need an alternative?

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thread all the time for opsi is draining

[kind verge]

Cleve is a placeholder until I get kaza up

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Clevememes hell yeah

[mighty hawk]

Vv richy howe nj shinano

Entire bb1 is scuffed

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u should go for full cv for carrier fleet

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well use Monarch Warspite DOY for the time being dawg

you have those three leveld

[mighty hawk]

Ok

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but def. do work on the others mentioned. they're mad good

[mighty hawk]

Do vanguards matter

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Merge the BB fleets to 1 fleet of monarch spite doy for now ye

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Yes but we did backlines first

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vanguards do matter but generally are less impactful unless you use exactly the right ships

Aurora, Room, Helena, Agir prob are the major ones to look into

plus ARA ship for CV fleet

[mighty hawk]

Ara?

Arashio?

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Air Raid Assistance, it's a skill

[mighty hawk]

Examplss pls

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Stephen Potter, Kazagumo, Ariake are the big three generally

Curlew gets it too

[mighty hawk]

Fck none levelled LMAO

Whos the most lolilike

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uhhh Ariake

[mighty hawk]

Say no more

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who else does cause i have it when i fight helmet

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?

[true bolt]

ARA

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U got sirius leveled?

Or somewhere?

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their sirius was like 99 iirc

[mighty hawk]

Ya

Lvl100

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Use sirius instead of ara

for now at least

[devout hedge]

use Sirius with ara

[mighty hawk]

Ill add ariake to the level list

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yea buddy

[mighty hawk]

Its convenient collecting ships and rsc even if i have no idea

MAN GEARING IS GONNA BE A WHOLE NEW GAME

I dont recognise all these new guns

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[mighty hawk]

I bet all the tools i have on atm r ancient

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for BB the only ones that'll really matter are the mk6 which you probably know, the mk7 which is rainbow so that one is easy, and the 406mle which is from PR3

[mighty hawk]

I know nothing sir

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triple 381 for DOY is probably necessary too to get the most out of her

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https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[mighty hawk]

Oh yea! This ones great

I just dont know where to get the guns

So its like

[true bolt]

it says where to get then

them

[mighty hawk]

Wait whu

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mk7 was NJ event

mk6 drops from USS boxes

[late rampart]

hazelwood

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381 is PR1

406mle is PR3

all done

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Dont use hazelwood btw hes memeing

[mighty hawk]

I prob have 381

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[mighty hawk]

What if i share my eq dock

How do i do that

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Hover over the gun and it shows u where to get

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it's this

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isnt this the Monarch Gun

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wow high res

[true bolt]

Lju

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Just look at the list i posted and gear best u can
Then we can go one by one or something idk

[true bolt]

^

[mighty hawk]

Ok

[true bolt]

use ectl

go by gearing your best ships and then work down from there

[late rampart]

wait why not use hazelwood she's still an ARA and she's the best loli, what diff does it make

[devout hedge]

she's not as good as the others mentioned

if you wanna hey go for it

but it's worse

[late rampart]

they're all kinda mid tbf

[devout hedge]

nah

Ariake double torps is funny

sometimes she matches shoukaku damage for me

[late rampart]

i use potter for that sick vanguard buff 😎

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and sometimes shoukaku matches Ark damage so y'know

not to say shoukaku is bad

[mighty hawk]

Can pr exp be grinded in opsi btw

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yeas

[true bolt]

yes

[mighty hawk]

Sometimes i get and sometimes i dont get exp

How to tell

[late rampart]

just autosearch and don

t worry about it

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color of the highlights of the ships

red gives exp and blue doesn't

wow i'm fucking LAGGING

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food for thought how do we get nimi to join us

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prob can't

[heavy cypress]

Why do you need Nimi?

[true bolt]

not need was a thought

[devout hedge]

not for this explicitly but it'd be handy for other instances to still have commands

[true bolt]

cause the bot commands dont work here

[devout hedge]

just unsure if threads enables force-adding users

[heavy cypress]

[true bolt]

and we being invaded by mods

[devout hedge]

probably is beyond the design rn

[heavy cypress]

Probably not implemented yet. also that

[mighty hawk]

Ok i think ill be okay now

Probably a good idea to kill this thread

Thank you everyone for your help!

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[mighty hawk]

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