Chpt 15-3 Build Help | Azur Lane Official | Page 1

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 6:19 PM

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thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 6:24 PM

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Give Eldridge anti sub

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 6:25 PM

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For one your support CVs only use fighters. FW-190 G-3/R1 is the best option for them and is cheap to make in gear lab listed under IB.

Do you have any twin 90s you have so many quad 40mm bofors that it's lowering your AA range.

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 6:26 PM

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thorny trellis Give Eldridge anti sub

In exchange for what

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 6:26 PM

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The supports don't do any damage to ships only to planes so you pick the best AA planes.

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 6:27 PM

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These

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If so i have 8 in reserve

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 6:28 PM

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Either twin 90mm or 76mm(USS UR AA gun) if you have those instead.

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 6:30 PM

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Only have the 90mm

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Just stick them on vanguard boats?

dusty tapir Dec 12, 2025, 6:31 PM

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What exactly is failing

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 6:32 PM

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Mob fleet dies to fast to kill all enemies for campaign star

dusty tapir Dec 12, 2025, 6:33 PM

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is it safe threat?

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and that doesn't help, what in the mob fleet is dying? who's low hp caused by what enemy?

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 6:34 PM

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Usually Musashi dies and my vanguard is near enough crippled

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I haven't safe treated it yet actually now I think about it

dusty tapir Dec 12, 2025, 6:36 PM

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safe threat is like 5 times as easy as lethal threat

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 6:37 PM

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Will try that

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 6:37 PM

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autumn kindle For one your support CVs only use fighters. FW-190 G-3/R1 is the best option fo...

Also, i can only afford 3 of these, what's the next best fighter for support fleet

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 6:38 PM

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Flapjack is next though priority goes to actual fleets.

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 6:38 PM

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Okay, flapjacks are on my actual fleets

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What about Tigercats?

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 6:40 PM

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Yeah that's probably fine.

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Just mostly replace the tenrai.

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 6:41 PM

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Haven't got her maxed blueprinted to change her to double fighter

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 6:42 PM

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Ah missed that part

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If you have hwah jah or indomitable you can use those instead.

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 6:43 PM

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I have indomitable maxed

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 6:43 PM

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Use her instead more fighters.

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 6:51 PM

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short jolt Just stick them on vanguard boats?

You can try and getting it to safe if that doesn't work you can use twin 90s on z52, laffey 2, eldridge, trafalgar. You generally want to only use 1 sextuple 40mm on the best AA ship of your fleet.

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But since only mob is dying you can replace only those instead unless you run into trouble with your boss fleet.

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 7:04 PM

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Drop the report for the anti sub

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 7:18 PM

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thorny trellis Drop the report for the anti sub

Your gonna yell at me so, no hedgehogs, so I've maxed purple ASW gear and swapped the book for it

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 7:18 PM

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autumn kindle Use her instead more fighters.

Got it

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 7:19 PM

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autumn kindle You can try and getting it to safe if that doesn't work you can use twin 90s on ...

Will do that too

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 7:20 PM

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@short jolt oh, well if you have the tempest sub it should be easy

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i highly recommend since much better than purple ones

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 7:22 PM

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Tempest?

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 7:23 PM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Tempesta

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 7:24 PM

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Wait what? He has eagle union subs not purple ones

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 7:25 PM

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Ah, I've not done anything with tempesta ships all low level

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 7:25 PM

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try with current subs then. i dont think the lvl is that bad

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i mean supply line

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to get hedgehog

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 7:26 PM

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Oh you meant the daily raid?

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 7:26 PM

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yeah

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 7:26 PM

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I think he meant he scrapped the hedgehog but I could be wrong.

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 7:27 PM

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...... oh

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 7:27 PM

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autumn kindle I think he meant he scrapped the hedgehog but I could be wrong.

I may have possibly did 😅

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When i was a noob ages ago

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Both of my hedgehogs*

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 7:27 PM

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You can only get 1

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 7:27 PM

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Weird could have swore I had 2

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Anyway no hedgehogs

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 7:28 PM

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gl then, for some reason i remember the purple one being really bad compared to hedgehog

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 7:28 PM

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I have this

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 7:28 PM

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It should be fine with Eldridge having a bult in hedgehog.

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 7:29 PM

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yeah use that then

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 7:29 PM

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Well, only one things for it now

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Wish me luck DorkHeart

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 7:30 PM

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Good luck MainzHeart

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 7:30 PM

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should be fine, also use sub as needed. don't try to save it

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 7:34 PM

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Will do

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Musashi has taken a beaten after 3 fights with subs

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Do I need circular defence enabled?

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Or another

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 7:38 PM

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Either that or double line don't use single line.

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 7:38 PM

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Whats your recommendation

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 7:38 PM

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I did double line but if Musashi is the worry use cicular.

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Also split up how many CV and BBs nodes you do throw in some DDs nodes so your backline can recover.

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 7:39 PM

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Ah right okay

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So, as off now, Mob fleet is annihilated by battle 7 even with rotations

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 7:56 PM

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1st clear right? did you kill the special mob 1st?

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so is it mostly the planes causing the issue?

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 8:05 PM

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Okay I redone it there and managed to just scrape a victory so 20% now. Musashi keeps getting squishy tho and had to swap with aquilla one game as it got that bad

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A mix of aircraft and battleship nodes

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 8:07 PM

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probably the battle ship ones

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 8:09 PM

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Subs are getting squished quite quick too ngl

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 8:10 PM

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yeah they do if run out of oxygen

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you could try switching lion and musashi, might be better

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 8:12 PM

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Like Lion in Mob?*

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 8:12 PM

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yeah

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 8:12 PM

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Mob*

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Also is French rainbow AA better than Sextuple in this instance?

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 8:14 PM

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i think sextuple better on just chesire and sandiego? most should use the rainbow aa

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ones that have multiple aa guns use sextuple

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what equipment you using now

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 8:18 PM

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Mob Fleet

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Main Fleet

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Support fleet

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Sub Fleet

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And layout

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Any further issues?

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 8:22 PM

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are you having issues with boss? otherwise switch laffey with z52 and try lion instead of musashi for mob and change to circular if you do that

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 8:25 PM

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Okay so with Boss fleet it seems fine, although the rematch was a very close call as trafalgar got sunk with Guam and Laffey almost dead

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 8:31 PM

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so you should try to do 1st boss with mob if possible, also kill this ship when it appears. i think it should be fine.

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 8:43 PM

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Okay, one more thing, so new mob Fleet performed better

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Boss fleet however got wrecked

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Is layouts okay?

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 8:44 PM

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by wrecked you mean vanguard or backrow?

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failed? with subs?

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 8:44 PM

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Vanguard destroyed and independence and jap carrier

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 8:46 PM

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did you use circular or double line?

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 8:46 PM

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Circular

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 8:46 PM

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try double line then

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 8:46 PM

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Alrighty

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Should Guam be In lead position?

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 8:47 PM

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and you used mob for 1st boss fight right

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 8:47 PM

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thorny trellis and you used mob for 1st boss fight right

I did not, that game was mid conversation about that

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 8:49 PM

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oh ok, do that next time since the boss causes boss fleet to lose about 30% stat. yeah guam is fine in 1st slot

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you can try z52 if keep having issues and see if that works better

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stage should get easier as you get more clear stacks

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 8:58 PM

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Okay so that game went much better, but Z52 was the sole survivor of the Boss fleet vanguard

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 9:01 PM

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so any better cats? could you show me the torp planes you have

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also did the boss have subs in the battle

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small improvement is to give douglas to independence and wyven to amagi

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also you have air superiority + right?

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actually if you don't use boss fleet on 1st boss fight you should be fine

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try that 1st and should be fine

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if you feel like still very rough then we can do more changes

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 9:25 PM

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Okay so that game there. I use my boss Fleet as above. The mob Fleet performed fine, but the Boss fleet got defeated with the vanguard getting crushed. I then used the mob Fleet which won with only sandy surviving

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 9:28 PM

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and you didn't use boss fleet on the 1st enemy boss fight right?

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@autumn kindle so issue with enemy planes i'm assuming

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 9:32 PM

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Which fleets are you using for the bosses?

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Like mob for first and boss for 2nd?

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 9:33 PM

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lol @ wrong person but yeah thats what i'm wondering

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 9:35 PM

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If you're still using lion for boss, the boss is medium so switch out the 406mm for a 457mm or mecks gun

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 9:46 PM

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autumn kindle Like mob for first and boss for 2nd?

Yes

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Im using Musashi for Boss atm

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Lion Mob
Musashi Boss

dusty tapir Dec 12, 2025, 9:47 PM

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Do you seriously understand what you're being asked

autumn kindle Dec 12, 2025, 9:49 PM

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I'm asking what fleets are you using for boss 1 and boss 2 the reason being is you get a debuff if you use the same fleet for boss 2 that you used for boss 1. It causes you to take more damage I don't remember how much though.

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 9:58 PM

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@short jolt so there are 2 boss battle, you doing the 1st one with the mob now and the 2nd one with boss right? and how is your ships dying is it vanguard 1st or backrow 1st and from planes or subs or torps?

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 10:01 PM

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autumn kindle I'm asking what fleets are you using for boss 1 and boss 2 the reason being is y...

The first boss battle, I use the Lion Mob Fleet, the second battle i use the Musashi Boss fleet

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Vanguard fleet for my second boss fleet gets crippled close to beating the second boss

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Apologies for confusion

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 10:05 PM

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you using subs on boss?

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and using double line currently right?

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then we probably want to change some equipment or ships

short jolt Dec 12, 2025, 10:13 PM

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I use subs on mob fleets

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But using double line

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Managed to scrape a 100% tho

thorny trellis Dec 12, 2025, 10:19 PM

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nice, also probably save a sub hit for bosses then

short jolt Dec 13, 2025, 1:10 AM

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Will do, is 15-4 much the same?

thorny trellis Dec 13, 2025, 2:20 AM

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I would say hold off if you just scraping by 15-3. Has same mechanic of 2 boss fight but I remember you need to do 6 mob +2 boss instead of 5 mob+ 2boss. And boss is even worse for frontline

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I’m still not sure exactly what’s causing your team to struggle so much to be honest. On paper it looks fine

short jolt Dec 13, 2025, 4:22 AM

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I'll try again tomorrow

short jolt Dec 13, 2025, 7:17 PM

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Managed to clear it finally!!! DorkHeart

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@thorny trellis

thorny trellis Dec 13, 2025, 9:34 PM

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Nice

short jolt Dec 13, 2025, 10:03 PM

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15-4 is hard aha

short jolt Dec 14, 2025, 2:26 AM

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Willing go help review my fleet aha

thorny trellis Dec 14, 2025, 11:35 AM

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probably better planes and AA guns, are you air superiority +?

short jolt Dec 14, 2025, 7:19 PM

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I'll double check

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thorny trellis Dec 14, 2025, 9:21 PM

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Oh you already using fritz and still have this

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Hmm not much can do then unless you use the subs with aviation then

short jolt Dec 14, 2025, 9:42 PM

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I could put them in

thorny trellis Dec 14, 2025, 9:56 PM

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Yeah if you want to try and see if that helps with aviation. But only if they are lvled since you use subs to help clear

short jolt Dec 15, 2025, 1:07 AM

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One is lv115 and I think the other is 113

thorny trellis Dec 15, 2025, 9:15 PM

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Then probably not yet. Screenshot of equipment and units?

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