Shipyard Research Next Steps / Priority

[marsh slate]

Hello all! Dock pics below to see my fleet.

I'm about 2.5 months into the game and would love some people to weigh in and advise on me where you think I should be focusing next for Shipyard Research.

Dock pictures above and some other info.

Cubes: 769
UR Exchange Pity: 194/400

My thinking: I just finished up Agir but she won't be usable for ages. Next few best targets to me seem like: **Mecklenburg **(24 IB tech away), Gouden Leeuw (8 Sardegna tech away), and Kearsarge (39 Union tech away.

I already have some of the early important ships researched, i.e. Anchorage, FDG, AVP, Saint Louis, and now Agir.

Other options I've considered that I could go after are Bayard, Brest and Admiral Nakhimov.

Based on my Dock and where my tech is at, I'd love your input on the next few ships I should be going after. Thank you so much and let me know if you have any questions!

also: The Sakura Ships and Royal Navy ships are very far away tech wise, but I am slowly working towards 900 Royal Navy for Plymouth but my RN Tech is at 394 🙁

[elder vault]

tbh most of this doesnt matter; given you're 2 'n a half months in, you arent capable of getting anything not-coinable to a usable state.

i assume you're researching pr8 and gaining prints overtime for meck / gl , so in a few months when you're closer to dev30 you can use them

are you doing protocore min-maxing ?

[marsh slate]

Yeah - Research focus is PR8 so I'm getting mech/gl prints over time.

not sure what the protocore min-maxing is!

[elder vault]

harbin would make the most sense solely since she's someone who will be usable to you, but i do want to mention this;

[marsh slate]

I have just set my 150 catch up prints to Agir but can change that if that's not my best move

[elder vault]

basically instead of actually using the catch-up blueprints, you instead coin-up the ship and then do the catchup

this allows you to convert the BPs into protocores, which allows you to obtain the UR Gear from previous PRs that you cannot obtain

[jaunty sonnet]

using catch up for agir is fine

[elder vault]

using catchup for agir, fdg and anchorage is fine; you primarily want to minmax pr1, 2, 3 & 5 - then ideally a dr (haku)

but essentially it's better in the long term, as it's easier to coin all of these ships - you literally cannot get protocores outside of analysing blueprints & datapacks, maybe like 10 from guild missions sometimes

[marsh slate]

meaning that all of those 150 BPs are extra and their only use is converting to protocore because the ship is already dev 30?

[elder vault]

yeah

you basically do the catchup after coining the ship up

[marsh slate]

or I could still do the catch up but save the bps?

[elder vault]

no, you cant

you have to do the catchup after the ship is dev30

since you cant anaylse them until the ship is dev30, and you're forced to use them

[marsh slate]

ah yeah duh

[elder vault]

this isnt mandatory, but it's recommended if you can comprehend it

all of this gear will take months to obtain through operation siren, when they get added

[jaunty sonnet]

if you want to minmax a lil but not too much, save the catch up for pr 1-3 maybe 5 as well as azuma/drake to be turn into protocore

[elder vault]

azuma / drake are trash though, so it isnt ideal to waste time picking them up.

[elder vault]

i will note its like very heavily recommended to get the AP BB Guns & Tenrai ; i'd suggest checking how many protocores you have and what position you're in

[jaunty sonnet]

tbh as long as you havent eaten all of the data packs from handbook its pretty easy to get the first 3 ap gns and tenrai

[marsh slate]

I have 1350 protocores rn

[elder vault]

and in terms of actual ship research you can do;

harbin -> hakuryuu (due to needing to coin fdg + agir) -> ibuki (budget unzen incase you dont get her in the upcoming rerun.)

shimanto is also heavily recommended from pr6 - i'm unsure when she's coinable, but she is a ship considered fine to use catch-up prints on

i'd say sit down and check to see what state you're in with protocores

[jaunty sonnet]

pr6 isnt coinable yet

[elder vault]

reread

[marsh slate]

I feel like it will be ages until I have the almost 400 Sakura tech to get Hakuryuu and Shimanto but those are good goals to set!

Thank you very much for all of this, I keep forgetting about protcores in general and didn't know about that min maxxing

[elder vault]

yeah, it's all a long term grind

gear will always be a bigger issue for you then ships, as it takes longer to get

[marsh slate]

yeah, trying to keep working through OPSI to begin getting good gear and it's a slog

[elder vault]

if you can min max and want to be a long term player then i'd always recommend it; you save like 1 - 2 years of operation siren grinding vs saving a few months of coin-ups

since research gear is so fucking expensive lmao

[marsh slate]

I do intend to be a long term player and holy shit that's a crazy amount of time saved 💀

[elder vault]

one more thing to note; LA-9 should be available soon-ish from the protocore shop, which is a pretty big W as you want like 3 - 4 of these lmao

[marsh slate]

oh god. Should I go for these first?

[jaunty sonnet]

get the gold bps first since you can only buy 20 a month

[marsh slate]

tyvm

[elder vault]

yeah get the gold ; when purchasing UR Gear prints make sure to double check how many you might have

since you may have a few sitting around

[marsh slate]

would tenrai bps sit in the Craft menu as well?

I'm assuming UR crafts only show up once you have at least 1 bp

[jaunty sonnet]

yea, tenrai is from season 4 so expected to not have any bps

[elder vault]

yeah ; the only reason you'd have a few is just from the misc off-season missions when you get a bad roll

[marsh slate]

makes sense

[jaunty sonnet]

you definitly want to check for flandre gun thou the triple 380 since you might have gotten some bps from season 6 misc research

[marsh slate]

so immediate next steps

consider researching Harbin because I can complete her and she's usable for me. Then Ibuki as insurance for not getting Unzen, then run through PR1-5, not selecting any of them for catch up bp reseach and coin all of the ships up with the intention that once a ship is dev 30 to set it as the research target and then convert those ship bps to protocores, then onto the next ship and repeat

Did I get all that roughly correct?

[marsh slate]

it would appear that today is my lucky day?? It's the 26/25 right?

[jaunty sonnet]

ay nice get to save on protocore just need buy 24 bps and champy gun

[marsh slate]

yessssssssss

[jaunty sonnet]

p much, you might want to get plymouth ready by next year ish? since her coinup should be coming in 2026
you can consider gascogne from pr2 and champy from pr3 when your running it back for the catchup to protocore since they got good lvl 120 tech

[marsh slate]

Wonderful, that's great advice and definitely doable

Thank you both so much, this has been immensely helpful

[elder vault]

yeah ply is a huge W

im personally unsure when she becomes coinable, it's why i didnt mention her

but she'd take like a week to unlock so it isnt a huge rush

[marsh slate]

yeah I'll be focusing on grinding protocores with PR1-5 for the foreseeable future

but will work on grinding the fleet tech for plymouth in the background

[elder vault]

you mean the catchups, right ?

[marsh slate]

yeah, coining PR1-5 and then doing the catchup bps once they're dev 30 to convert to protocores

[elder vault]

good, make sure to keep your research focus on PR8 - it's a very significant PR in the long term

so in a few months (like 3 -4) you'll have a Dev30 Meck, 2-3 Meckguns and more

[marsh slate]

that would be incredible!

will definitely keep research focus on PR8

Last question for now, before even asking you guys I spent for the $15 PR5 bundle in the store that gives you the fully researched ship. I've used that on Harbin and with that bundle have 343 PR5 general BPs. Should I spend them on AVP who is Dev 20 or Harbin? Anchorage is dev 30. Or save and spend on someone else in the future?

the bundle probably isn't worth it but hey, I couldn't resist.

[elder vault]

imo turn it into protocores instead

nothing there is not-coinable

[marsh slate]

can I turn the general BPs into protocores?

[elder vault]

you can convert them into a ship that is dev30

then anaylze them all

[jaunty sonnet]

you have a dev 30 saint louis yea? just turn em into that

or anchorage too, my ass is blind

[marsh slate]

oh I didn't think this would work

[elder vault]

yeah it does, there's no limit on excess blueprints

[marsh slate]

protocores it is then!

[elder vault]

+1,500 protocores

[marsh slate]

stonks

I'm not above spending a little, enough to be considered a dolphin

[elder vault]

i'd recommend also looking through and if you have any gold general blueprints for PR1 -> PR5 to just convert them into protocores

also, convert exp data packs

exp is easy to obtain, combat datapacks are protocores always

[marsh slate]

will look, I don't think I have more after converting them a few weeks ago thanks to knowledgeable people like yourself telling me to

I am saving my PR8 bps

[elder vault]

yeah, save those

none of the PR8 golds are really notable atm

but save your PR8 DR bps, focus on Meck

[jaunty sonnet]

Could consider using gold pr8 on daisen instead if your lacking good bbs since she is like top 3 gold bb

[marsh slate]

I have Oumi and FDG at dev 26 for BBs at the moment

I feel like that's plenty good for now?

With Meck eventually

[elder vault]

it's fine, you can just use them on whatever gold is closest to dev30

Daisen is good but you'll get her anyway

as you should drop down to PR7 once you get Dev30 Meck & GL

[marsh slate]

I don't have any PR8 ships researched at the moment but good to know to only grab Meck and GL and then shift down to PR7 ships

I'm assuming that I should still focus on PR1-5 for protocores vs. going for PR8 and PR7 ships. Still need a tiny bit more tech for Meck and GL anyways.

[elder vault]

your research focus should be PR8
you can develop whoever you can coin-up in the shipyard