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#Fleetbuilding Theory (No Screens because maint)
pine wadi
strict fleet requirement, and not immensely notable for campaign in general
strong valley
Not saying she isnt good at all but Musashi would be help you a bit more on mob side
pine wadi
she's pretty alright for 14 though
ashen forge
And, why not use both?
pine wadi
because you end up filling her requirements easily
zinc relic
You can also do 2 CVLs if you have Independence
ashen forge
No retro on her yet
dire merlin
If i have BB, CVL, CV for Mob
Could we have a look at your dock? You could send screenshots here
strong valley
Could we have a look at your dock? You could send screenshots here
Game down right now lol
zinc relic
Could we have a look at your dock? You could send screenshots here
Look at thread name closely
dire merlin
Game down right now lol
I mean, I can explain... I'm dumb 
zinc relic
No retro on her yet
Saratoga?
strong valley
If i have BB, CVL, CV for Mob
Just based off the few you named earlier
Mob main fleet id say is
Musashi Uni CV
Boss BisZ Shinano Amagi CV
ashen forge
Cant Take a new one with maint going
dire merlin
Just based off the few you named earlier
Mob main fleet id say is
Musashi Uni...
Theseus may be?
zinc relic
I would recommend Saratoga for mob. She has plane barrage and a shelling barrage
ashen forge
Currently my Boss-fleet is Implac, Haku, Amagi CV
pine wadi
Musashi Uni klaudia
Zwei Shinano Amagi CV
strong valley
Sara would be a great slot for that 3rd on mob.
Having Amagi CV to pair with Shinano will nuke bosses
dire merlin
Currently my Boss-fleet is Implac, Haku, Amagi CV
Replace Haku for Shinano I think
strong valley
Long as correct gear that is
ashen forge
As said, most most are Higher lvl now
zinc relic
But what about limit break on Haku?
strong valley
Is shinano MLB?
pine wadi
Currently my Boss-fleet is Implac, Haku, Amagi CV
this is technically fine as well since 13-4 isn't particularly hard
ashen forge
But what about limit break on Haku?
That is an older Screen. Haku is MLB and LVL 105
ashen forge
Is shinano MLB?
Yes
pine wadi
though I would still prefer the comp with zwei for a faster clear
ashen forge
As Said, i cant Take a more recent Screenshot due to maint
strong valley
You dont really want to push 13 till they at least 115 if you can help it. But you do have better ships/gear than I did when I cleared so might be able to manage
pine wadi
if you don't sync CV then youll take a bit longer to clear since taihou moves and you'll miss
if you sync CVs with converging torps then your CVs might fire before taihou spawns
and now ur sitting for 20s waiting for the next airstrike
strong valley
If you can sync them then you'll be just fine on auto
ashen forge
Currently, they are roughly 2 sec apart from the fastest to the slowest
strong valley
Sync you want a lot closer than that. Like .2 maybe .5 sec at most
2 sec desync is great for mobbing tho
granite ravine
you dont wanna sync for campaign, end of story
strong valley
Referring to syncing for boss stage specific with converging torps to Zewi slow
granite ravine
does
not
matter
you dont sync in campaign
syncing does more harm than good in campaign
boss stages have waves before boss spawn, syncing already lose value during the waves. and airstrikes help to clear bullets from your screen. having 2 strikes at the same time only clear the screen for that small frame, making subsequent bullets/torpedoes/whatever to follow through after initial clearing, which is not desireable
if you space them out, you have higher time of having bullets/torpedoes cleared from your screen
strong valley
But running converging torps on a boss that moves a fair bit like taihou make the odds of missing full strike a lot higher forcing the fight for at least another 20-23 secs?
granite ravine
you just dont run converging torp in campaign....
this is why most guides will tell you to use wyvern lmao
or breguet
both are parallel torpedo bomber
the only time you wanna use a converging is in ch14, and that's only on one slot to help kill elites faster
or on Implacable
vital dove
@ashen forgewhat vanguard do you have?
you close to the stages where AA become significant role
ashen forge
Currently, raising Anchorage and Ägir for Tanks. Other Vanguard i intended to use:
Helena
Sandy
Hindy
Helena M
Z52
vital dove
Hindy dev30?
ashen forge
An assortement of others. Ply is sadly far from Dev 30
ashen forge
Hindy dev30?
Yes. Otherwise i wouldnt use her
pine wadi
no other vanguard?
granite ravine
this is fleet building for w13 correct?
vital dove
Z52 can have both roles tank and dd. Except HelenM everything looks fine
ashen forge
this is fleet building for w13 correct?
Yes.
granite ravine
you can just do
tank +1 z52 mob
tank hind sandy boss
ashen forge
no other vanguard?
A few. Some more Tanks. But little of note
Unless you want Z-Vanguard, Starters or Shima
Kaze, i mean
Shimanto is only lvl 100
granite ravine
if you have z1 augment, then put her with z52 mob
ashen forge
I can craft it
granite ravine
shimanto is good, you can put her on boss if you wanna activate 3IJN with shinano hakuhou, if you intend to use them
granite ravine
I can craft it
nah dont, not worth just for the sake of it
only worth using z1 if you already have her augment for some reason
mob is easy to take care, if you think z52 AA isn't enough then just run 3 CV mob
but it's very unlikely, you can run 1bb2cv no problem
ashen forge
Z52 has never disappointed me. Im sure she will cut through Mobs with ease
Maybe i need to craft a UR-AA for her
pine wadi
klaudia+uni have preloaded 10% heal anyway
ashen forge
But we had that Argument earlier
strong valley
Gold AA will be plenty
vital dove
Don't use both at same fleet Klaudia and Uni imho
ashen forge
Lots of Roomba's then
pine wadi
Maybe i need to craft a UR-AA for her
everyone just completely missed my point about it, forget it
vital dove
Even Saratoga will be better against double heal
ashen forge
As said, we had that Argument
granite ravine
i would raise the Aquila if you haven't
ashen forge
everyone just completely missed my point about it, forget it
I wont craft one yet. Probably dont have the blanks anyway
granite ravine
aquila unicorn saratoga/independence
ashen forge
What Gear? Double Fighter?
pine wadi
yes
granite ravine
ye
pine wadi
she only heals with double fighter
divebomber gives her preload and extra damage but takes her healing power away
granite ravine
for ch13 you can use db aquila no problem, if you run 3 CV
ashen forge
What about painleave?
pine wadi
forgettable
granite ravine
another healer, but not as good as aquila