Gearing W15

[pseudo onyx]

[pseudo onyx]

Ok gimme a second I am walking rn 😭
5 mins and I will help okay?

[smoky cape]

send more pics

[golden pelican]

Of what?

[smoky cape]

dock

[golden pelican]

Everything? Or just gold or above level 100?

[pseudo onyx]

Above level 100 should be fine

[smoky cape]

gold only too

[golden pelican]

Ok

[pseudo onyx]

Exclude purple and below

[golden pelican]

Here’s the final one then

[smoky cape]

send all the golden ships

[gusty summit]

just really quickly Raffaello's gun meh
Musashi will likely prefer twin 410
BBs probably want radar

[pseudo onyx]

Musashi unicorn volga + same mob van
Lion fritz amagi napoli d7p trafalger

I would use these 2 fleets

[smoky cape]

fritz probably better in support

[pseudo onyx]

But she will do more in surface fleet

And there are other options for supp fleet I think

[golden pelican]

Like this then?

[pseudo onyx]

Well no we need to fix the supp fleet
One second let me see

[silk bane]

musashi flag and raff > volga

[smoky cape]

so are u sure that u sent all of the golden ships ?

this doesn't seem right at all

[golden pelican]

Here is the rest

[pseudo onyx]

Sry to keep asking can u filter for CV only

[golden pelican]

Ok

[pseudo onyx]

Above level 100 only is fine

[smoky cape]

yeah the support is easily fixable u have indomi

[golden pelican]

Should I redeem 5 UR Bulins and MLB her?

[smoky cape]

indomi cat illustrious
but also what is shocking is the absence of indep

[golden pelican]

I’ve never had the need for her before, this is the first time I’ve gotten stuck

[smoky cape]

none of them take ur bulins

[golden pelican]

Ah, I misread as Implac

[pseudo onyx]

Yeah we could fix it by asking you to level lusty class (lusty + indomi)

U could also do neko + fritz + anyone
And use amagi + shinano like before

[gusty summit]

support can just be fritz cat illustrious, Indomitable will be slightly better if you can LB

[golden pelican]

I can get one of them to level 95, don’t have enough XP packs

[pseudo onyx]

Yeah if u want to clear rn and not wait to level u have to do fritz + nakhimov + flex

Are u in a rush
Or happy to wait for a week or so

[golden pelican]

Who’s flex then?

I kinda wanna try now, and then if it doesn’t work, try again in a week or two

[smoky cape]

haku is the best option

[pseudo onyx]

Honestly hard to say
Maybe enty? Avp?
Not like u have great options already levelled

[gusty summit]

this is for support fleet how the hell is Hakuryuu working here

flex should be either Illustrious or Indomitable you don't have much of a choice out of your other carriers

[pseudo onyx]

Abdou we need ships with good fighter slots and rld

[pseudo onyx]

But they are level 70

[smoky cape]

do u think that i don't know that ?

[gusty summit]

mob fleet Musashi/Volga/Unicorn
boss fleet Lion/IJN pair
if you want to make Shinano's skill work bump up Shimanto

[golden pelican]

shimanto is level 102

[gusty summit]

how does this work for support

[gusty summit]

you are tackling the hardest map in the game either you come prepared or bust

[smoky cape]

u can mlb implacable with the ur bulins that u were about to buy them

[pseudo onyx]

Tbf who is better? That is level 120+

[smoky cape]

and how a lvl 70 ship will work ?

[gusty summit]

level shit up before trying again

but if he can afford UR bulins then Implacable

[pseudo onyx]

he said he wants to try now

[smoky cape]

we were discussing this without leveling

[pseudo onyx]

Fritz and neko will carry support fleet
3rd option doesnt matter much

How many UR bulins do u have?
Total including spec core?

[gusty summit]

if you can MLB Implacable go with that

ship will stay useful anyway

[smoky cape]

so on the boss vanguard traff is better than cheshire right ?

[pseudo onyx]

I think so yeah
AA decent and dps much better

[smoky cape]

especially with lion

[gusty summit]

I would say Trafalgar better than Cheshire in general but even better if there are more HMS in fleet

Lion is a big boost too yes

[golden pelican]

So this then? Or change raffy to Volga?

[gusty summit]

yes

[golden pelican]

And replace AUP with MLBd Implac?

[gusty summit]

also Musashi wants twin 410 not triple

[gusty summit]

and give her a radar

[pseudo onyx]

Should we use haku over 2 ijn nano?

[golden pelican]

Do I need to send you a pic of every piece of gear I have?

[pseudo onyx]

No wait

Abdou can cook sth for u

And then u tell us what u dont have

[smoky cape]

cooking

[pseudo onyx]

Abdou use haku instead of nano imo and give her the +13 tenrai

[gusty summit]

I mean ideally if you can level other support CVs up I'd use 2 rainbows back in boss fleet, but we're not leveling shit

[pseudo onyx]

Nntktt if no levelling woudl enty be best 3rd option? For supp fleet? She is level 125 at least

[gusty summit]

if leveling shit just implacable indomitable illustrious

[pseudo onyx]

I meant no levelling

Lets just use the lightest dead weight we can and try

[gusty summit]

I'd take Enterprise if Yorktown II is LB'd but she isn't

for boss

[pseudo onyx]

I mean for supp fleet

[gusty summit]

support stays

[pseudo onyx]

Neko fritz + x

Who is x

[gusty summit]

Implacable is fine

[pseudo onyx]

At 0 lb?

[gusty summit]

LB'd

we're saying no leveling not no LBing

he can afford it and Implacable stays good for other places anyway

[pseudo onyx]

Hmmm I guess yeah he can mlb her he has the bulins

[gusty summit]

personally my opinion is be prepared before pushing, there is zero rush to clear ch15

[pseudo onyx]

I agree but some ppl like to rush stuff

And his dock is strong enough to clear imo

[golden pelican]

And some people need gems so that they can expand their dock

[pseudo onyx]

We are just spitballing dont worry

I also rushed 15

[gusty summit]

I can't say I rushed anything but I'm 👴

[golden pelican]

I’ll have Implac MLBd in a few min, just need to collect some gold first. But I assume support fleet should all have pancakes? Does any of the other equipment matter?

[smoky cape]

i want a little bit of revision and dd aux and the +13 spread
u have to craft the asw plane in the gear lab that is it
u can +13 the daisen gun if u want

[golden pelican]

I already have the ASW plane

[pseudo onyx]

Btw some general tips while abdou preps the gear
Make sure u fight the super CV node first
Use the commands to clear up a route to the super CV and hit it with the airstrike once
And use subs on super CV node + strong mobs (3 triangle) and on both bosses

Make sure u use double line or circle formation
If backline dies it means u need more AA and circle better
If frontline dies u need more evasion and double line better

I would stagger the boss abdou
Beacon + elite manjuu

Or beacon nano alone is good

[smoky cape]

what about the rest

[pseudo onyx]

Napoli can use the italian twin 90 AA
And roomba for trafalger if no more UR

[golden pelican]

I don’t have the last plane on shinano, is it hard to get?

[smoky cape]

core data 800

[golden pelican]

Pretty sure I have everything else in sufficient quantities and fully leveled

I only have 300 core data

Unsure if I have the beacon as well

[pseudo onyx]

The aux slots that are empty can be any 500 hp aux
And Eldridge wants hedgehog abdou

[golden pelican]

I have the beacon

[pseudo onyx]

Then just use barracuda

For shinano TB I mean

One second
Lemme just check napoli skills

Abdou gear the supp fleet as well

[smoky cape]

baguette is the fastest one
might be a manjuu on mamagi if not enough beacons

[pseudo onyx]

The cv fleet

[pseudo onyx]

True

[smoky cape]

so the third is implacable ?

i mean it is one of the most priority investments at least

not only in this w15 situation

[pseudo onyx]

Yeah just use plac

[flint sigil]

[pseudo onyx]

Neko disagrees

Now u have to give argument

[flint sigil]

d7p takes the rainbow aa in the better slot

and the ijn pair plane loadout needs fix

[pseudo onyx]

Oh yeah

Oh abdou I said haku not nano

2 ijn nano is

[flint sigil]

and give musashi the purple twin 410

[pseudo onyx]

Give purple option

He wont have so many pancake

Keep pancake for fritz

[flint sigil]

2ijn is fine but their loadout needs fixing

[pseudo onyx]

Actually we have a new BiS plane as well

U prefer nano over haku here?

[flint sigil]

nah

[pseudo onyx]

So why not swap

[flint sigil]

swap aswell

[golden pelican]

Have 8 pancakes

[flint sigil]

pancakes on surface fleet first

[smoky cape]

looks like nano is better for staggering because of the 4x DB on haku

[pseudo onyx]

We can stagger with beacon dw

And even 1 sec is fine

[smoky cape]

most importantly how many beacons

[pseudo onyx]

Neko was the new kms plane better than pancake for interception?

[flint sigil]

yes

[golden pelican]

A singular one

[smoky cape]

1 breguet

[smoky cape]

can u buy another one ?

[pseudo onyx]

U can put beacon on boss
Uni is fine with cata

[smoky cape]

ok

[golden pelican]

Depends on how much they cost

[flint sigil]

u can only buy 1 per month for 800 coredata

actually go shinano here coz +13 wyvern

[pseudo onyx]

That is for breg
Beacon is 500

[golden pelican]

Can’t afford it then

[pseudo onyx]

Sry abdou

@smoky cape

[flint sigil]

why do u force amagi to be slower

also +13 tenrai on her 2 slot is

[pseudo onyx]

I think he was trying to use the better planes on the better slots

[smoky cape]

i left it because we were using nano

[pseudo onyx]

It is hard work and we confused him
Sry abdou

[golden pelican]

3X Core data event starts tomorrow actually, so I’ll maybe be able to afford the beacon then, maybe the baguette next week?

[pseudo onyx]

Listen to neko now I will

[golden pelican]

What are the two planes in first and second slot on Implac?

[smoky cape]

no the cooking was good for the staggering since tenrai is 🐌

[pseudo onyx]

Well neko was saying use shinano with +13 wyvern

[smoky cape]

if we put the tenrai on nano then the staggering will be impossible

[golden pelican]

Should I prioritize a baguette or a second beacon?

[flint sigil]

if u can get 2 breguettes run this otherwise replace the 1st breguette in the 2nd slot with a saiun or junker at +13

[golden pelican]

I have zero, and 400 core data

[smoky cape]

?

[pseudo onyx]

Swap the d7p AA

Cat gun in 3rd slot

It has 2 AA mount

[smoky cape]

oh i thought they were 2x each

blind i guess

or i have no idea from where i got that intel

[flint sigil]

well then just wait to get at least 1
otherwise theres technically only downgrades u can make

[pseudo onyx]

Nah it is fine
Doing gear is

[pseudo onyx]

Looks fine I think now

[smoky cape]

umi for the rescue

[pseudo onyx]

Neko give thumbs up

[smoky cape]

[flint sigil]

also give napoli a 155kai or something instead of nepgun

[smoky cape]

i only put what i saw in the depot

nice cooking everyone

so where do we put the beacon again ?

[pseudo onyx]

@golden pelican
if u really want to try right now u can replace the breg with barracuda and go ahead
If not u can wait till 1 breg then try
Good luck
Read the ch15 tips by sushi
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15/

[pseudo onyx]

Unicorn/amagi
keep on uni is fine
Boss is staggered enough

[golden pelican]

Ok, what are the final three fleets loadouts?

[pseudo onyx]

I guess post all thee one final time abdou

And ppl stop yapping

[smoky cape]

with only the breguet as a flexible

since core data poverty

[golden pelican]

Thanks!

[pseudo onyx]

Good luck

[smoky cape]

also the daisen gun

[golden pelican]

I’ll dig for gold for a little while so I can afford to MLB Implac, then I’ll go for it

[smoky cape]

+13 option is very recommended

[flint sigil]

just use the purple gun and skip +13 daisen gun

its only used on musashi and musashi is shifting out of meta alr

[smoky cape]

?

he has izumo gun

[flint sigil]

thats fine

[golden pelican]

Is there a reason for using white rather than yellow shell on Lion?

[pseudo onyx]

Izumo too slow
Faster gun faster barrage

[flint sigil]

use the one u have at +13
if both are at +13 then it barely matters but u can use yellow

[pseudo onyx]

They are similar in performance
Yellow is niche and most ppl dont have it

[golden pelican]

I have two

[pseudo onyx]

Then do this

[smoky cape]

he doesn't have it at +10

[golden pelican]

I only have +10 for both yellow and white

[smoky cape]

yeah most likely it won't matter much use whatever u like

[golden pelican]

I do not have that purple gun

[smoky cape]

gear lab

[golden pelican]

Is that one better?

[smoky cape]

yeah if neko said daisen is not longer worth +13 then go with the purple

[golden pelican]

Ok

[golden pelican]

3 star clean sweep on lethal lol!

Got super lucky with RNG though, there were only 3x 3star cruiser enemies and the rest were 2 and 1 stars.

This fleet you cooked up for me should also work for 15-4 right?

@smoky cape @pseudo onyx @flint sigil

Thank you so much for the help!

[pseudo onyx]

Yes it should
But u have to do mob boss mob
There are 3 bosses
So mob fleet fights 1 and 3

Will be hard

But use subs properly and it is possible

Your mob is very strong

Also congrats

[golden pelican]

My mob fleet got wiped out on the final BB enemy (musashi the plane magnet attracted a swarm and died, which resulted in a loss since she’s flag), but the boss fleet sunk that BB no problem, then annihilated the boss, (both without even needing to use subs) and looked to still have enough fight left in it to be able to do it all over again. So I’m thinking my boss fleet may be able to kill two or perhaps even all three of the bosses

[pseudo onyx]

U ideally want to not fight BB nodes tbh

They are too rng

Pick the other nodes if u can especially when out of ammo

[pseudo onyx]

Hopefully it works

[golden pelican]

Is there any difference in strength between the three bosses on 15-4?

The first boss on 15-3 had like a third of the health of the second one

[pseudo onyx]

I think last one is strongest
2nd boss is pretty easy

First one I dont remember

Also second boss is light armor so maybe change lion gun to her own gun

[smoky cape]

looks like i have a completition

[smoky cape]

he went for the 3rd ☆ so has to fight all the nodes

[golden pelican]

Boss Boss Mob worked I beat 15-4 twice, then ran out of oil… 3 star is not happening on lethal, but should be very doable on safe mode.

[smoky cape]

i m going to try 15-4 on lethal but i think only doable with the cheat code

but also it might be doable with raff

[pseudo onyx]

U mean competition?

When did he start the game

[smoky cape]

very hard to tell
if u know any limited SR or meta
for me the oldest limited ship i m seeing is soyuz

[golden pelican]

When did I start the game? iirc around the time Ulreich was rerun ( Jan 2024)? Because she was my first UR

And Erebus Meta was my first meta ship, I know I started in the final week or two of her cruise mission. (Released around December 2023 according to Azurlane twitter)

So I started either late December 2023 or early January 2024 it looks like?

When did you two start? @smoky cape @pseudo onyx

[smoky cape]

faer started just before the en anni in 2023 and i started in december 2023