optimal fleet (totally not)

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currently at w13
633 tech/408 prints for anchorage
2 fleet ig

[wise dust]

Youre w13 and no mob fleet???

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still using 1 fleet so making 2 rn

[verbal pilot]

No reason to have bis2 dupes you can scrap them

Indy enty and glorious meta can be used for main fleet

For vanguard id retro helena and use portland as your tank

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the thing that make me realize that is unable to 1 shot harbiter

[wise dust]

Well, you can probably swap unicorn with enty

[odd mulch]

where are fdg agir avp ?

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huh

[wise dust]

Hes got otto, which is a solid choice for vanguard dd
Good bulk, great damage

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i started al 2 months ago how would i have developed them that fast

[wise dust]

You can dev them pretty quick
With access to late game stages, you could probably bang out a development in a couple weeks or so

The hard part is the bp

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well but theres less ppl that would use a research ship less than dev lv 25 right

[wise dust]

Yeah, you shouldnt really be using ships that arent mlb for late game stuff at all

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what abt 2 fleet

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true but i may instantly mlb them if the ship is useful

[odd mulch]

k it looks like u are counting from the time of ur server join and not game join since u have a more than 3 months old ship in there

u shouldn't delay the shipyard any longer because it is a massively long progress

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where

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well my tech points make me unable to coin prints

out of xp books since i was trying to do that

[dawn basin]

Lion,Unicorn,Independance
Sanfran, Trafalgar, Chappy

Zwei, Enty, Glorious meta
Portland, Helena retro, San diego

that might work i guess, you dont have a lot to work with

[wise dust]

Oh wow, I didnt even know Juneau was such an aa carry

[odd mulch]

pushing past w12 is when u need gems to expand the dock usually

[dawn basin]

hi cheeky please help

[grand raft]

they can just use Chapayev and spare the hassle of needing to level Juneau

[odd mulch]

getting iron blood tech points is easy
just spam crossboard wa and mlb the ships

[dawn basin]

chappys AA is rather bad

[wise dust]

Pushing w13 problems

[grand raft]

Trafalgar is an AA carry remember

[odd mulch]

i'd rather help him to get more ships and make some opsi fleets

[grand raft]

do I want to ask about those 2 additional Zweis

[wise dust]

Hopefully he just got
Very
Very lucky

[grand raft]

Adobu's right as well

[dawn basin]

right.... i did not remember that

[grand raft]

needs to get his ass into gear on PR

[dawn basin]

alright heres the updated fleet
see any problems with it cheek?

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first one for mob?

[dawn basin]

unicon is mob

[grand raft]

looks fine

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hmm

once i get anchorage who to replace with (trying speedrun tech points ngl)

[dawn basin]

portland

[odd mulch]

ur biggest issue is that u didn't start from pr1

u want to jump to 4

[grand raft]

aye

start working on Roon or something while you're waiting for tech points

[wise dust]

Roon my beloved
Tanky
Good damage
Waifu material
Murder-hobo
All my favorite things

[odd mulch]

more importantly iron blood tech

[wise dust]

You dont even have to think too hard about her main gun, just pick something solid from the AP or HE faction
Since she tells your ammo type to eat it and does whatever she wants anyways

[grand raft]

it does still matter

ammo type but raw damage, reload, spread, etc

those are all things she doesn't change

[wise dust]

I stand corrected

[grand raft]

yes, might I suggest getting a bit more experience on matters before giving advice

[wise dust]

Certainly

[dawn basin]

damn

[wise dust]

I found where I obtained that bit of misinformation
I read up on roon before getting her as my first pr ship-
A comment from a reddit user on a thread for roon gear by "nize spize" from a year ago reads -

"Roon: Replace the autoloader with evasion boosting gear like the gold hydraulic steering gear. CAs have low evasion which makes them a lot more vulnerable to damage, replace her main gun with an AP one. <this is in reference to guns the op has in his depo> The ammo swap skill overrides the gun's ammo type so you only need to care about getting the gun with the highest raw base damage"

Its clear now that I shouldnt have taken this at face value, and have spread misinformation because of it. Apologies. Maybe less reddit is in my future lol.

[dawn basin]

just drop reddit
it wont give you any good advice besides from the few competent people

[grand raft]

I know spize

he's not the worst out there but

it's not so much his advice is wrong

so much as you're misinterpreting what he was saying

not specifically

use what ever

"The ammo swap skill overrides the gun's ammo type so you only need to care about getting the gun with the highest raw base damage"

also

that comment was over a year ago

some things can change quite drastically in a year

[wise dust]

For sure
Sorry once again.

[dawn basin]

dont worry, youll learn along the way, kinda how i did it too
i just shadowed gameplay help channel and took in bits and pieces of information

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working on saint louis...

only need 20k coins to done develop it

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oh yeah also the ones u mentioned just now have sync?

[dawn basin]

wot

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the skills

like may need to change certain gear for syncing

[dawn basin]

run normal campaign gear

its not a single target bossing fleet

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alr

[odd mulch]

working on sanrui might not have been the optimal choice there since racking uss tech isn't the easiest especially when u don't assist one of their events soon enough

for me i got fdg and agir before anchorage just because of that even if i started with sanrui too

but it was way easier to get the iron blood ships

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but dont have any iron blood vg ships that can sustain...

current ones is main and subs

only otto regens and prinz eugen as sr

[wise dust]

If youve got a bunch of extra otto/regens from the event, thats pretty much free mlb tech points

[odd mulch]

could have used agir z23 and another ship from crossboard

agir is actually kinda cracked

well for me at least

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hmm

so it will work like this right

guess time to gear them up

[odd mulch]

the issue is not iron blood tech
it is the eagle union

[wise dust]

You got your beaver medal yet?

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yea

might need help with gearing

[odd mulch]

delay a little bit w13 unless u are craving right now for gems

[dawn basin]

well once you get levels, and max limit break

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i will

cant risk them up lmao

[odd mulch]

can u mlb glorious ?

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yea could mlb all at once

[odd mulch]

then it should be fine

can u show ur depot ?
press the equipped on on the bottom left

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may get some from gear lab if its not ur i guess

[odd mulch]

not sure if u have enough gear for 2 fleets

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thats what am thinking of

[odd mulch]

go to the craft section and see what u can get from there

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craft?

[odd mulch]

yeah the print section

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these
and 4 repair toolkits

[odd mulch]

weird that u can't get a single hazen

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true

[odd mulch]

how many hp boxes can u do ?

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4

[odd mulch]

this is the best that i could do aside from port secondary gun that can be left empty the other spots should be filled with something

mainly the cv aux

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oh thanks ima try to see what i can do for them

[odd mulch]

also get a white shell for bz

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will do soon currently not enough core

[odd mulch]

having 3 golden cata and not a single purple one is kinda weird

the one that i put there on uni is from the crafting section

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what abt avi oil tank

have 8 of them

[odd mulch]

both work

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hmm

alr time to gear them up

[odd mulch]

before gearing make them usable

lvl 120 at least

u have 4 main ships to level so it will take a lot of time

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hmm maybe ima do chap 9 or 10 first

thanks

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also should i get a flapjack for enty and gloM

[odd mulch]

neither

pancake is low priority

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oh also just find out i dont have any naval camouflage where to replace/get them

oh yea dont have purple twin 203mm will blue replace it or

[odd mulch]

hydraulic steer

these 2 are very easy to get because purple boxes are in an abundance

[odd mulch]

port guns don't matter

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well am unlucky with them and only have 2 hydraulic steer...

[odd mulch]

it doesn't matter much
did u clear 12-4 ?

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yea

[odd mulch]

keep leveling in that node

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ok

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if opsi i just remain 1 main fleet only for now right

[odd mulch]

do the mobbing stuff until u prepare the boss fleet

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alr

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can u make the fleet but with gear lab gear? (except aa and torp) thanks 🙏

[odd mulch]

this is a mixture of gear lab core data protocore and research

bz gun depends on the boss armor

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breguet

[odd mulch]

yeah if u want to replace it u only have wyverns

which is kinda expensive

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wait that gun Helena uses is from gear lab?!

[odd mulch]

helena is using ply gun and tashkent

ply is 1 from proto and 1 from research or next year in the gear lab
tashkent in core

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oh is there other option than research since I have less prints of them
less than 5-10...

[odd mulch]

u can always resort to the poverty options

they are decent and can make do stuff at ease almost all the time

[visual bolt]

hmm so there weren't any good guns for them in gear lab

also the Tashkent gun is the b13 twin?

[odd mulch]

yes but it is not that worth getting that amount

2 is enough because u missed mogador

if u want gear lab then the cost will skyrocket with the 100mm

u want to focus more on the wyverns and frog

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oh the lion doesn't uses lion gun

[odd mulch]

gl hf

[odd mulch]

can use but optimally u want the fastest and does good damage

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oh btw what is that san fran gun

[odd mulch]

u find it in the protocore too

drake gun

there is also the hindy gun in the proto shop

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oh
portland

[odd mulch]

ignore port she just needs to survive

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bet..

for the battle that last long use black shell instead of those high standard thingy?

[odd mulch]

no don't use the black shells

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dang seems like i got scammed for 30 years

[odd mulch]

why

black shells are suboptimal in campaign but not so bad

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cuz i had 2 rn

hope i can get something nice in that triple proto week

[odd mulch]

when the time comes u can make a good use out of it
it is a nice filler for now until u get enough radars

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hope so

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wonder why twin 128mm for sandy

[odd mulch]

that and tashkent gun are interchangeable whatever u can afford get and use usually it will be the gear lab one

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oh well
it says dual purpose
but is it rlly dual purpose?

[odd mulch]

what dual purpose ?

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the gun name

[odd mulch]

oh

i m not sure about that
that needs a little bit of a history nerd to answer that

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hmm fair...

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well
i wonder if using high standard fire control radar wont it cause desync with carriers for debuffs

[odd mulch]

what are u talking about ?

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the bbs aux

if changing black shell to that

[odd mulch]

if u are talking about campaign

desync is ur first priority

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what's going on

[odd mulch]

why are u so surprised
it is common knowledge

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common enough for me to not knowing it

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yo bro anyways I got essex retrofit should I change smt in fleet or no

[odd mulch]

no idea for now
haven't been keeping with stuff in al for couple of weeks