Valvaryon3 elp :murmlove:

[fair pumice]

@tidal lance here

[tidal lance]

Much appreciated. Gimme a sec.

[fair pumice]

No worries
Game is chill
U cant do much wrong
But u can be more efficient

[hallow storm]

these 2 fleets are pretty much non functionable

unfunctionable is that englishly correct ?

[tidal lance]

I have spent way too much time playing, like I said. This basically became my new special interest.

[fair pumice]

Dysfunctional would be more common

[hallow storm]

the first goal is to make 1 good fleet out of these

[tidal lance]

I thought my first fleet was good because haha damage go brrrrrr

[hallow storm]

imo also this looks like a long island keep angle

[fair pumice]

Can u get unicorn from guild shop?

[tidal lance]

Don’t think so, no. I basically created my own guild since I was too anxious to request to join one, for some stupid reason.

[stuck estuary]

get unicorn from guild shop

[fair pumice]

U can use guild shop in any guild

[tidal lance]

Oh I know but I think I need more of the guild currency

[stuck estuary]

nelson,unicorn,saratoga,eugen,z23,helena

get to work on raising those ships

[fair pumice]

Oh I see
U really want to use unicorn asap

I recommend u join a guild

Starting your own is fine but u need some active players to get more tokens fast

[tidal lance]

Yeah I can’t buy more ships from guild shop

[fair pumice]

Oof

[tidal lance]

If it takes me a bit to progress, I’m fine with that. But yeah I’ll join a guild sometime soon.

[fair pumice]

Ok get uni asap when u can

Then limit break her with bulins

And use some xp books

To speed it up

[tidal lance]

Roger that. Got plenty of those too.

I make sure to train different ships’ skills every day

[fair pumice]

I recommend u focus on 6 ships for now

[fair pumice]

This fleet will be very good

U dont have unicorn yet so use long island

Focus z23 skills I guess
And nelson until u get unicorn

[stuck estuary]

no helena either

[hallow storm]

not sure about starting a new fleet altogether
it might be very slow

[fair pumice]

Then u focus everything into unicorn

Z23 and eugen can probably carry it is fine

[hallow storm]

keeping cleopatra should be the way

[fair pumice]

Use some xp books on nelson if u have

[tidal lance]

I’ve got Akagi, Eugen, and Cleopatra in the Dorm

[stuck estuary]

you have a good 2 more weeks

and xp packs

[hallow storm]

1 purple bulin

i think ditching helena is the way here

[fair pumice]

U are spreading yourself too thin between a lot of ships
Focus 1 fleet for now

[tidal lance]

Was gonna use that on my single UR

[hallow storm]

cleopatra only needs 1 bulin too

[fair pumice]

Keep the UR bulin for lion

Are u pulling the event banner?

[tidal lance]

I am yeah

[fair pumice]

U want to get lion with all your cubes

Just do your best

[tidal lance]

I save up for 10 pulls

[fair pumice]

All good

Uhhhhhh

So lets fix the fleet

[tidal lance]

I’m gonna miss hearing “Nerrateee-pon!”

But I’ve got Repulse as one of my secretaries so it’s fine

[hallow storm]

yeah ur will be used now to fix the fleet
u might postpone construction for some time

[fair pumice]

I think nelson saratoga long island z23 eugen and maybe z1? Since we are using z23 with her

At least until u get helena and unicorn

Then unicorn replaces long island

And helena can replace z1

If u dont have enough bulins for all these new ships

Then just use any high level vanguard instead of z1

Start farming b1 in my opinion

Or b3

[hallow storm]

why not to using cleopatra ?

[fair pumice]

And try and get all the x3 bonus
Every day there is x3 bonus for clearing the easy maps once

[fair pumice]

We wont have enough gold bulins
Why get xp on her when we will ditch her anyway

[hallow storm]

she only needs 1 bulin

[fair pumice]

But please remember focus the fleet I recommended for now ok @tidal lance

Stop investing in the other ships u are not using

And definitely stop using fleet 2

[tidal lance]

Oh, okay. I can do that.

[hallow storm]

did u get the gold bulins in the medal shop ?

[tidal lance]

Nah from event stuff

[hallow storm]

although we are already in the reset

[fair pumice]

Actually yeah why not lets use cleo instead of eugen

[hallow storm]

yeah i still have no idea why faer is agains cleopatra

[fair pumice]

Do u know her ehp abdou?

Can u check for me pls

[tidal lance]

So I should go ahead and put Nelson and Saratoga in my Dorm?

[hallow storm]

i didn't bookmark mebot chart

[fair pumice]

Yes
Use some xp books on them if u can

[hallow storm]

is it somewhere ?

[fair pumice]

Get them to 30 and start limit breaking them

[tidal lance]

Roger that.

[fair pumice]

Hopefully z23 carries u for now

[fair pumice]

And once u get unicorn it should be much easier

[fair pumice]

[tidal lance]

Done. Should I take Akagi out and replace with Cleo or Z1?

[fair pumice]

Your backline should now be nelson saratoga and long island

[hallow storm]

the team that was in my mind uni long island some bb
eugen z23 cleopatra

[tidal lance]

Got it.

[fair pumice]

Honestly I dont think either eugen and cleo is worth it here

[hallow storm]

also if he has a very high chance to get lion he should ignore nelson

[tidal lance]

I’m a tad confused on why this specific setup, but I suspect I have a lot to learn on fleet dynamics.

[fair pumice]

But anyway for frontline just keep eugen z23 and add z1 imo

At least u will get kms tech from eugen

For now cleo can stay till u make the new ships stronger

Then u can replace her later

[hallow storm]

he doesn't have enough bulins
unironically purple bulins is the crisis here

[tidal lance]

I can sacrifice my level 50 bulin to the limit break gods

[fair pumice]

Yes I will link the newbie guide
But for now we are just trying to make a functional fleet from what we have available

[fair pumice]

Yes all bulins are for limit break

Honestly u can do like abdou suggested

U are lacking a lot of purple bulins

Just use Eugen z23 and cleo

[tidal lance]

So put Cleo back in the dorm

[hallow storm]

i still have the first bulin

[tidal lance]

Yeah I saw her and was like “Neat! My first SR! Let’s get her in my fleet.”

And then I realized her “skill” does literally nothing and I was sad.

[fair pumice]

Show me what your fleet looks like now

[tidal lance]

Ope let me make the changes rq

Oh that power drop off makes me sad. This is gonna be a long road, but worth it.

[hallow storm]

why so many were against eugen when her ehp is in the roof ?

[fair pumice]

Yes this is better

[fair pumice]

Because her dmg is very bad

Very very bad

[tidal lance]

But the shields are neat

[fair pumice]

U want to make that backline higher level as soon as u can

[hallow storm]

should he retro long island ?

[fair pumice]

Then farm easy maps for x3 (once per day)
And then farm b1 or b3 until u can tackle c2

[tidal lance]

Already working on it

Same with Z23

[fair pumice]

No dont

Save retro mats for unicorn

And for hard maps do x-4
Like 3-4 or 4-4 or 5-4
Th e highest you can do

[hallow storm]

the true question now
do u have 20k and 160 medals to mlb both eugen and cleo ?

[tidal lance]

Hah, I wish.

[hallow storm]

k then just level nelson

[fair pumice]

And sara

[hallow storm]

did u claim the weekly missions ?

[tidal lance]

I did

I tend to no life those

[hallow storm]

where did the bulin go

[fair pumice]

I think this should clear b1 when your backline has more levels

Then keep farming that map

[tidal lance]

Don’t make me say it please

[hallow storm]

don't say it then

[fair pumice]

If u struggle come back here

But for now just work on the new ships we added

And get unicorn as soon as u can

And if u get lion replace nelson with lion

[hallow storm]

u can buy purple bulins with medals but TBH there are better stuff to get
ships and gold bulins alongside spec cores

[tidal lance]

I can do that

[fair pumice]

Bulins will come with time

Just take it easy

[tidal lance]

All gas no brakes, got it.

[hallow storm]

don't take it easy speedrun it always the way

[tidal lance]

Well dang, I didn’t know I was this lost getting started.

[hallow storm]

how many xp packs do u have ?

imo it might be doable with just cleo and long island

[tidal lance]

A little less than 1000?

Wait maybe the wrong thing

[hallow storm]

1k

[fair pumice]

Read this when u can

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[hallow storm]

yeah most likely the wrong this

[tidal lance]

Sorry was thinking of the wrong thing I think

[hallow storm]

faer these are 500 ?

[tidal lance]

So T1 data packs, I have 830.

[fair pumice]

It is 1k xp I think

Each

Use it on nelson and sara

Get them to level 40 or so

Then save the rest for unicorn

[tidal lance]

Okay now time for a very, very stupid question that is genuine,

[hallow storm]

lvl 60 is very cheap

[tidal lance]

How do I use them? >.>

[fair pumice]

60 also works sure

Abdou show him

[hallow storm]

i want him to do b3 asap

[fair pumice]

B1 also good

Imo get unicorn first that is the prio

[hallow storm]

just for the cope drop

[fair pumice]

Can u join a guild today?

[hallow storm]

oh he has her already

[fair pumice]

Show him how to use the books

[hallow storm]

near the ship level there is a blue text

[hallow storm]

they still didn't remove the leaving penalty right ?

[tidal lance]

Do I do this in like a building or something?

[fair pumice]

No sadly

[hallow storm]

dock

press on nelson and u will see beside her level the blue text

press on it and it will tell u to use the books

+10 until u get something like this

60 is ideal because the ships will cap exp gain if they aren't limit broken at 70

only ur and meta ships don't cap their exp gain

[tidal lance]

Oh my god all that was staring me in the face.

I’m stupid.

Well if anyone needs me, I’ll be in the shame corner.

[hallow storm]

don't max level them or else u will have a wasted exp

[tidal lance]

I got them both to 60

[hallow storm]

how much do u have ?

[tidal lance]

314

[fair pumice]

If u are on lil e server u can join my guild if u want

[tidal lance]

Heck this guild that I created just to do guild stuff on my own.

I’ll disband it

All the oil and no gold

Dang

[tidal lance]

I am on Lil E yeah

[hallow storm]

well TBH ever since this event hit and i m in constant coin poverty even though i m doing 12-4 something is wrong

[stuck estuary]

same

im stuck at 350k

[fair pumice]

I dm u the guild id

[tidal lance]

Ty ty

[hallow storm]

this is what i mean by coin poverty

[fair pumice]

Anyway @tidal lance u should be able to farm b1 map at least now

Priority is to MLB nelson
Saratoga
Also to get unicorn asap and retrofit her
And you can retrofit z23 if u want that is fine

[hallow storm]

i want to teach him some basic gearing stuff

[fair pumice]

Sure
Just dont overwhelm pls

And link the guide in the end

And make sure he follows what u are saying

[hallow storm]

the guide is overwhelming

[fair pumice]

But guide is for later just if he wants to read

That is why when u are done just link it

Anyway I gtg

[tidal lance]

Much appreciated Faer

Have a good one!

[fair pumice]

No worries mate
Have fun

[tidal lance]

I am so far!

[hallow storm]

now u come here

u aren't in a sortie right ?

[tidal lance]

I’ll join your guild after the penalty

[tidal lance]

I am not. But my phone is also at 17%.

[hallow storm]

k we will make it quick

go to the depot

the gear section
toggle equipped on on the bottom left and screenshot

[tidal lance]

I did

[hallow storm]

show me the screenshot

[hallow storm]

ur gear is good enough

[tidal lance]

Should I start transferring gear over to my newcomers?

[hallow storm]

u cleared 4-4 ?

[tidal lance]

Yes in normal

[hallow storm]

can u screenshot shot the bottom gear ?

[tidal lance]

Oh yeah sorry

[hallow storm]

this is the best that i could make with what u have currently but u need to notice something

i put a +6 purple hellcat on long island because it does more damage than a +2 that is on saratoga

mainly because of the limit break

this is what limit break does for long island

basically bunch of increased multipliers

especially the +1 planes

[tidal lance]

Ahhhhhh I see

[hallow storm]

gear level is as important as ship levels but u need to have a little bit of management sense in order to efficiently raise the fleet

[tidal lance]

Oh no. I lack that.

[hallow storm]

for example in ur case i would first max limit break eugen first

level the steam catapult to +3

level the blue gear to +5

by that time u should be having another list of priority

since u will be ditching long island for unicorn which is a massively rough transition imo

i would change sara if it was me because of the bulin shortage

also note that getting lion will free u from investing into nelson

eugen is in the left most position which is the tank position
z23 in the right most position which is the off tank position mainly because she has a very high level compared to cleopatra

[tidal lance]

It hurt my soul to ditch Repulse earlier

[hallow storm]

the middle position is for the most frail ships

that is only for the front line

the backline is another story

[tidal lance]

My brain can only handle so much at once

So next time I login I’ll update the gear and the positions

[hallow storm]

the gear shop priority for u is trying to get the ur ship
with that u want to not miss the daily vouchers

then u want to get the ur gun

it costs 10k event currency

[tidal lance]

Okay, I can do that!

[hallow storm]

then all of ur currency is towards the gear boxes

so
1 - ur ship but usually u don't need to exchange currency for it
2 - ur gun
3 - gear boxes

[tidal lance]

So in a couple months my fleet will be very good

[hallow storm]

if u keep getting feed back and help u will have a strong fleet by the next ur event

as long as u can keep pushing campaign until reaching oil capped maps

my first event was a double ur event like this and i didn't manage to do D1 which was the oil capped map
i reached the stage at the last hour of the event and my fleet died there

the next event was 1 week after it and i managed to reach the SP stage but i couldn't do it

which was 1 month after i started playing

then the next event was another 1 month and 2 weeks after it and was breezing though it

[tidal lance]

Naruhodo I see I see

Thank you

Idk I started playing the game because I watched the animation and I really enjoyed it.

And so now I’m having lots of fun with the game.

[hallow storm]

as long as u are consistent u will see a massive change in ur account strength overtime

[tidal lance]

And hopefully start winning more exercises

I get stomped every single time

But I get exp, so it’s worth it.

[hallow storm]

yea exercises early on is a good source of exp later u will be able to get some ships and bulins from the merit shop too

honestly i was doing it for the first couple months like 4-5 then started slaccing

until now i only do them when they force me to in some weird missions

[tidal lance]

Aaaaah, gotcha.

[hallow storm]

if only u have raised uni we could have done something to make u do d1

/

[tidal lance]

[hallow storm]

📈

how deep are u into lion's banner ?

[tidal lance]

oh uhhhh

79?

[hallow storm]

yeah looks like u have to keep up with the 10 per day pace

[tidal lance]

Or thereabouts yeah

[hallow storm]

are u done from the by monthly pass ?

[tidal lance]

The wha-

[hallow storm]

the 1 per 2 months pass nevada meta pass

[tidal lance]

I-

[hallow storm]

[tidal lance]

Oh, I might actually be hopeless.

[hallow storm]

i was asking about the pass

[tidal lance]

I've done lots of things in the game, so chances are I've done it.

Letting my phone charge atm

[hallow storm]

the main sources for are
spending oil in the highest eff stages
event milestones
weekly missions
pass
mail storage

[tidal lance]

Ahhh I gotcha

Also does Akashi just keep randomly mailing you the whole time or just newbies?

[hallow storm]

i think it is a new player thingy

[tidal lance]

Ah

Well, I appreciate her help, hah

[tidal lance]

So overnight, Saratoga and Nelson got up to 65.

[fair pumice]

gear them
LB them as much as u can

then farm b1

and dont forget unicorn

[tidal lance]

On it. Was just able to craft a repair toolkit!

Grateful for my sub fleet rn. Making farming so much easier.

[fair pumice]

better not call them into fights tbh

they waste more oil than u should

but if they are just on the map moving and shooting that is fine

[tidal lance]

Wait can you move the sub fleets?

[fair pumice]

yes but it also costs oil

[tidal lance]

I thought they just plop down

[fair pumice]

honestly u should just ignore them until much later

early game they are more painful than worth

[fair pumice]

they have 2 modes
attack mode they hit w.e is in their range on the map for a bit of dmg
and then support mode is when u call them into actual battles

[tidal lance]

Huh. Did not know that. Much appreciated.

Also, when farming B1, is my goal to just get to the boss ASAP or to fight everything?

[fair pumice]

just auto it

easier

so kill a few mobs and then boss as soon as possible

[tidal lance]

Got it.

[fair pumice]

when u are around level 80 I think u can try for C2 map

but ideally we want unicorn before we tackle higher maps

how far are u from unicorn?

can u show your guild shop

[tidal lance]

yeah one sec

4 away

Aaaaand got her.

[fair pumice]

yes

nice

put her in place of long island

but give her xp book as well

similar to nelson and saratoga

btw check your rookie missions and daily missions
or 3 star missions
see if u can get any purple bulins that way

if unsure about a mission show me

invest everything into unicorn now

and nelson

but unicorn first

[tidal lance]

Got unicorn to 61

[fair pumice]

nice

level up her skill

and nelson barrage skill

ok?

also retrofit unicorn as soon as possible

when she is retrofit she will just carry everyone

[tidal lance]

I've got Nelson and Saratoga in right now. I'm leveling Nelson's barrage.

I'll add Unicorn in the next run.

[fair pumice]

that is fine when they are finished level unicorn skill instead of saratoga

[tidal lance]

I'm curious about the advantage of this particular setup. I get that rarity means more power, but what other context is there? I'm asking to learn.

Oh, I see healing in Unicorn's skills. There's that.

And reload buff. Ah. That answers my question on her.

[fair pumice]

rarity is not always more power

this specific setup is good because early on u dont want to use a lot of gold ships

and since u invested in eugen and cleo we really dont have more gold bulins for other gold ships

same problem with ulrich von hutten

she is good but u cant use her yet

and your rainbow bulins should stay for lion

why specifically unicorn nelson and sara?

because they all have amazing retrofits that make them top level ships

especially unicorn
she is the single best healer in the game

and u want a healer in your mob fleet

[tidal lance]

I see. So eventually I'll be creating more specialized fleets.

Makes sense to me.

Oh and of course I just farmed unicorn in B1 lol, so that's a limit break.

[fair pumice]

that is lucky

i forgot she drops from event actually

that is very nice then

[tidal lance]

OP Noob speedrun any%

[hallow storm]

speedrun mentioned

[tidal lance]

lol

[fair pumice]

Btw one small trick u can do is put Ulrich von hutten and some random ship in fleet 2
But dont use fleet 2
UvH has a skill that works on the fleet she is not in
It might hell u later in harder maps
Before we start actually needing fleet 2

[tidal lance]

Ahhhh that’s true! Thanks, I’ll give that a go!

[tidal lance]

Should I still put Z1 into my vanguard, or did we scrap that idea? I'm confused.

[tidal lance]

I take it that’s a yes.

[hallow storm]

look a little bit above

how far are u into lion's banner ?

[tidal lance]

Let me check

111/200

BTW, I got Nelson to 5-star

[tidal lance]

Got lion finally

[fair pumice]

Congrats
Start using her
What was your fleet again?

[tidal lance]

Z23 is retrofitted too, but I like this skin better,

[fair pumice]

If u can use xp book and limit break her she can replace nelson or saratoga

Are you farming d3 map?

[tidal lance]

Oh I got lion to like 92

I’ll slot her in for Saratoga because I really like Nelson lol

[tidal lance]

I’ve only cleared C3 so far, sadly

[fair pumice]

I think u can and should clear d1 at least

It has oil cap

Much better to farm than c3

[tidal lance]

Sounds good, I’ll try D1 now

[fair pumice]

Let me know if u struggle

U might need to put some ships on fleet 2 to hit the stat requirement

But it is doable

[tidal lance]

I got 1 star lol

But it’s a start

[fair pumice]

much better than doing c3

and repeat sortie will make the map easier

it becomes safe threat

[tidal lance]

Sounds good to me