OpSi Fleet

[cinder sky]

@vivid kelp My current fleets, been like a year since I made them

Lacking in gear as well

[opaque ermine]

For your BB use the triple 155 gold gun

[livid wind]

fleet are solid but gear is the issue

[opaque ermine]

Nj is the one you can't do that on

[livid wind]

I would just use zwei + soyuz + alsace for BB fleet tho
easier to sync together and can do well vs all armor types

[cinder sky]

Want to be able to 1-fleet stronghold bosses

[livid wind]

put musashi instead of FdG

[opaque ermine]

Your bbs should ahe the stagg aa gun that nj has

[cinder sky]

Alright. And zwei is flag in Bb?

[livid wind]

yes

also put guam in place of anchorage

[cinder sky]

Also, I do have all UR MLB and lvled up, so if there are any better choices from the newer ships, feel free to suggest those as well

[livid wind]

Lion should replace soyuz I think
so lion zwei alsace would be the BB fleet
z52 replaces helena if u want to ditch her
if not z52 can replace sirius in CV fleet
and amagi CV replaces hakuryu in CV

soyuz + nakhimov + fritz also great fleet if u have them all ready

[cinder sky]

Alright, sounds good

[cinder sky]

Yeah, I do have them

[cinder sky]

You mean this?

[opaque ermine]

Yep

[livid wind]

i would use them instead of your current CV fleet tbh

[opaque ermine]

All bbs have that

[livid wind]

but it comes down to preference

or just make them fleet 4

tank, ARA (stephen potter), trafalger/z52 can be the vanguard

btw with the gear I suggest you read this cuz it is a bit all over the place rn https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[livid wind]

guam better than anchorage but it is fine

both fleets are very solid now

[cinder sky]

Oh right, forgot to move guam

[opaque ermine]

The aa guns on Frontline are all over the place but I don't think it matters to much in opsi

[livid wind]

yeah AA is an afterthought in opsi so dw too much

but fix the other stuff

[cinder sky]

Kinda have a shortage of gear so yeah

Gearwise what should I focus on first and foremost to be able to 1-fleet stronghold bosses?

[livid wind]

well for stronghold specifically I think for the planes u want the bf109 + wyverns
and for musashi u want daisen gun in pr7 (the twin BB gun) and give her one white shell and radar or the AFCT

twin 410 kai purple gun also fine for musashi

[cinder sky]

Okay noted

Would the same gear work for abyssals as well?

Just realized the sirens spawning in strongholds maybe are the same as the ones in abyssal zones

So BB fleet would take care of these sirens :

And CV fleet takes care of these?

[livid wind]

these vulnerabilites are wrong anyway

it is not coded into the game

so ignore them

[livid wind]

not really
that gear is because stronghold is mobbing + bossing combined
for abyssal u want pure bossing gear

best learn those slowly
Like if u have an abyssal u are fighting come and ask how to gear your stuff and u will slowly learn

the guide has explanations for which BB guns are good for bossing
and planes

but still it might be better to ask and learn

[cinder sky]

Okay, think I should have enough AP for one abyssal node

Will load it up after finishing up current run

[livid wind]

i might be away soon so just ask in the main channel or ask someone to have a look in this thread for the abyssal gear

good luck

[cinder sky]

Okay

If you're still here, I got this one

[livid wind]

soyuz fleet will be perfect for this

it excells in medium

but sry I gtg

[cinder sky]

No worries, I can have from main chat look 🫡

[livid wind]

[cinder acorn]

hvar/bf109g/la9 will kill her no problem

just try ur best to sync soyuz to nakhimov

[cinder sky]

What are the steps I got to do in order to sync?

[cerulean stream]

@cinder sky can you screenshot your entire dock and send it here

or are the fleets you originally posted still the only ships you have

[cerulean stream]

for syncing, go to your ship in the dock and click gear, itll say XYZ/wave where XYZ is the time it takes to launch a wave (doesnt factor in skills/buffs)

for a nahkimov/soyuz setup you want them all to fire basically at the same time or with 0.2-0.3s deviation at the most

[cinder acorn]

make fritz within 0.2s of nahkimov and soyuz preferably less than 0.5s faster and less than 0.3s slower than nakhimov or closer for 3-4 strikes

here is an example for 3-4 strikes

[cinder sky]

I basically got all the ships in the game, missing w14, w15 and some subs

[cerulean stream]

youll wanna run this backline then

with the setup neko provided

if you have la9 fighters run those instead of the bf109gs while keeping tight timings

[cinder acorn]

ofc if you have better planes like la9 then ud want to adjust ur setup to use them since they are significantly better than bf109gs

[cinder sky]

Okay, im looking at soyus main gun and CVs fighters wave speed?

[cerulean stream]

yeah

[cinder acorn]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/ basically use this tool

[cinder sky]

Aha okay, so syncing is basically just mix and match gear so they have the same speed?

[cinder acorn]

yup

[cerulean stream]

it doesnt just include backline too

[cinder sky]

Okay nice, lets see what i got

[cerulean stream]

you may want to try to sync backline with certain vanguard ships, obvious example is helena

her skill procs at the 20s mark and lasts for like 6s iirc, which means you want your ships to land all their hits within that time window since the buff doesnt snapshot, it checks on hit

[cinder acorn]

soyuz barrage on reload provides a debuff and slow ( which enables nahkimov to freeze )
nahkimov in turn will freeze so you want to align all their damage windows within this timeframe
theres some stuff to keep in mind always when syncing like abs cd which means 2 bb or 2 cv cannot fire at the same time theoretically 1 bb and 1 cv neither aswell but that window is so small its not worth considering
but these are all taken into account in the tool i listed in the sync view window
and then theres also the duration for the backlines to unload their dmg to keep in mind
which is about abit more than ~3s for BB
and about 3-4s for CV ( carriers with no torpedo ordnance less so )

[cinder sky]

I see I see. And in my current case I only need to think about backline?

[cerulean stream]

if you have no ships with relevant skills in the vanguard, then yes backline is the only thing to worry about

[cinder sky]

Does the calculator take care of backline dmg unload as well?

[cinder acorn]

some opsi bosses or well any boss may also have timed buff windows that u may want to avoid in which case syncing also implies making sure u align ur strikes outside their defensive buffs if they exist

[cinder acorn]

nope it just list the time when the launch happens, the time for a salvo/airstrike finishing ull have to take into consideration urself

[cinder sky]

Gotcha!

[cinder sky]

Okay, i will begin with the synching part first 🤔

I dont have bf109g or la9

Is hvar the f6f hellcat?

[cerulean stream]

/equip

[cinder acorn]

the left one not to be confused with the right one

[cinder sky]

Yeah, was thinking about the left obe

@cinder acorn Okay, so with this setup fritz is 0.23s slower than nahkimov, and soyuz is 0.28s slower than nahkimov?

[cinder acorn]

looks ok

i think

u can push nahkimov abit forward

with a junker instead of saiun

and its more tight and better

[cinder sky]

What is a junker??

[cinder sky]

Ooh okay

And pushing forward in this case means delaying her speed? Since it increased to 21.35s

[cinder sky]

I suppose this one is for the BB fleet?

[vivid kelp]

yes

[vivid kelp]

this one can be either BBs with 457s to ignore the gimmick, or just brute force with CV

[vivid kelp]

CV

[cinder sky]

Do I change to flapjacks, or something against heavy armour? Since hvar is for light

Also anything In terms of syncing I should think about?

[vivid kelp]

flapjack and double tb for nakhi

flapjack and tb for rumey

they shd always sync

[cinder sky]

The syncing looks like this for me now

[cinder sky]

Ooh mb, misread

But in that case, how do i determine which fighters to pick for the remaining fighters? And the homing beacon just made rumey faster 🤔

[vivid kelp]

what

then take out the beacon?

like

it aint that hard lol

ofc idk your specific reload tech bonuses

[cinder sky]

Okay, I found out the manju aux reduces so rumey and nakhi have the same speed now, but soyuz still 1,47s faster

Do I just find another main gun in that case to close the gap?

[vivid kelp]

what reload tech are you using for carriers

0?

i mean here btw

[cinder sky]

Its all 0 yeah

[vivid kelp]

?

at the very least you can do this

if you want to get closer

[vivid kelp]

im not sure why you're using manjuu if your carriers are too slow as is

its fine for nakhi to be a teeny bit faster since she only checks for soyuz slow to apply the freeze 1.5s later

oh right

forgot rld buff

so theres no issue at all

[cinder sky]

Ah, I did not think about the aspect that you want them to be faster, kinda just got fixated on having them synced

It is my first time trying to learn this, and i just dont really know how to determine what to choose to manipulate the speed

[vivid kelp]

you want them synced with the BB as well

ideally

at least

for soy nakhi comps

well think of it this way

[cinder sky]

Yeah, i understand that, was just doing it in steps

[vivid kelp]

for this comp

you expect your HVARs to be doing the work

not the tb on nakhi

so you can play around with the TB on nakhi

[vivid kelp]

which is why this advice was given

[vivid kelp]

for this comp, the TBs are the main DPS

but you have 4 different kinds of conv TB

all with different timing

so we play around with that instead

on the other hand

if you had no option for TBs

say just ryuusei

then we would play with the fighter slot instead, since thats not doing the hard lifting

maybe you could try a tigercat or a seahornet

worst case, go down to a worse fighter like a hellcat

[cinder sky]

Hmm, okay. Just to make sense of it, the dmg type needed for the boss is «not restrictive», so theres more room to pick and choose in terms of gear in order to sync?

[vivid kelp]

it is restrictive

just that

there happens to be 4 different types of converging TBs

that are all around the same DPS

[cinder sky]

Ooh, all TB have the same dmg type?

[vivid kelp]

all TBs favour heavy

same with DBs

[cinder sky]

Okay, starting to make more sense now. And when I mix different TB with different timings, the «final timing» is like a calculated sum of all the timings? So if I want it to be a little faster I have to find a TB which is a little faster, and vice versa if I want it to be slower?

[vivid kelp]

it's an average basically
but yes your understanding for the second part is correct

[cinder sky]

Okay nice, thanks for helping me understand 🗿

[cinder sky]

Just enountered this one

I assume I just run BB fleet with 406s?

[cinder acorn]

not rly u can run the nakhimov fleet

just adjust planes per armor type

altho it does have a 20s shield type thingy

which BBs have an easier time getting around

esp if you have low reload invested account

[cinder sky]

Ooh okay

TB and DB are heavy, while Fighters are light?

[cinder sky]

If you mean fleet tech, I did recently 120 all BB/BC giving reload

[cinder acorn]

yea i meant overall reload

so for opsi it would be tech + cats + oaths

max tech rld bbs with radar should have a comfy timing around 20s shield assuming they are the UR ones

[cinder sky]

I see i see

What guns do I use against light armour in that case?

And as for planes, are all TB and DB heavy armour? Or how do I determine its damage type?

[livid wind]

Check this page
The last table

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BombSpread#AVI_adjusted_Results

This accounts for almost everything that can be accounted for

[cinder sky]

Aha, so all planes deal light, medium and large, but in varying degrees?

I also realized since the boss is light armour, then the HVAR setup from earlier should do just fine?

[vivid kelp]

yes

[livid wind]

Hvar + skyraider ideally
And depending on 20s shield buff on boss u wanna go faster or slower than 20s

[cinder sky]

Gotcha! Will check what speed I can get

[livid wind]

[livid wind]

For bb guns for bossing
Triple 406 mk7 or the new mk2 > Triple 406 purple rarity for light armor

406/50 1938 mle or triple 380mm mle 1935 or triple 406 mk1 for medium or heavy

For medium Triple 406 improved model 1940 is better than the above listed