W13 Hard mode help (auto)

[lofty nacelle]

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W13 Hard mode help (auto)

[ebon hazel]

Mob: Yorktown 2, Volga, Unicorn, Laffey 2, Scylla, Shimanto
Boss: Musashi, Amagi, Shinano, Guam, Unzen, San Diego

something like that

will still fail though without proper gearing

[lofty nacelle]

I followed the Community tierlist.

and thanks

[wicked wasp]

ECTL is not contextual and could be suboptimal for 13+

[lofty nacelle]

damn, alright

[ebon hazel]

may or may not work out still depending on what you used still

[wicked wasp]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[twin lion]

as long as its not poverty w13 should largely be fine

[lofty nacelle]

god, it'll take a lot of screenshots to show the gear

[wicked wasp]

inb4 rocketplane

[ebon hazel]

we should make a bingo at this point

[wicked wasp]

just take screenshots of the 12 ships cheeky recommended for the fleet

[ebon hazel]

aye

just to get an idea of what we're working with

[lofty nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

there

[ebon hazel]

not awful but

[lofty nacelle]

God Forbid the bingo

[ebon hazel]

a lot of areas to improved in

[lofty nacelle]

in where?

[ebon hazel]

and some basic rookie errors

gimme a sec

is Shimanto FS5

[lofty nacelle]

fair
I hardly come here.

lemme check

[lofty nacelle]

nope. dev lvl 30

[wicked wasp]

probably want a DPS gun on shimanto anyway even without FS

[lofty nacelle]

correction

FS3

[wicked wasp]

there's enough AA going around

[woven sandal]

Thread gone, but I was watching, I think I need to up my Sycillia

[ebon hazel]

how many flapjacks have you got?

[woven sandal]

Oh w8 I'm in the thread 😂

[ebon hazel]

actually

could you just SS all your UR and SR gear

[lofty nacelle]

wdym by SS?

[woven sandal]

Screenshot

[lofty nacelle]

oh sure

[vernal abyss]

where are the tenrais

and wyverns

[lofty nacelle]

don't mind why there are some random SR gears on random shipgirls

storage reasons

[vernal abyss]

where is the UR gear ?

[twin lion]

so many btd oof

[lofty nacelle]

oh wait

[vernal abyss]

ign dd guns and no wyverns

why did u choose that route ?

[twin lion]

type 93s also kinda wasted unless you have reload cats

[ebon hazel]

no Breguets either

[lofty nacelle]

I stopped buying them like 2 years ago

[ebon hazel]

that'll make things interesting

[vernal abyss]

when is the gear lab update ?

might wait for it to be added there and use 3

next month

[wicked wasp]

soon can't remember which week of CN anniv, but I'd rather buy breguets than craft them

cores shouldn't really be a problem for someone attempting ch13 hard

[vernal abyss]

yeah buying this month and the next one
craft another should be enough

[wicked wasp]

if you were going to craft you might as well craft Wyverns

[lofty nacelle]

alright. I'll start focusing on Wyverns

[vernal abyss]

i asked him earlier why the ign guns instead of wyverns i didn't get an answer

[ebon hazel]

I may or may not have cooked

[wicked wasp]

looks fine honestly

[lofty nacelle]

alright thanks

[lofty nacelle]

oh sorry, I was a bit focused elsewhere

[wicked wasp]

beside's guam's AA gun

[vernal abyss]

no tenrais also is questionable

[ebon hazel]

sextuple or roomba instead or?

[wicked wasp]

either/or

roomba probably safer for range

[ebon hazel]

lets do that then

[wicked wasp]

same for Laffey

[vernal abyss]

btw cheeky he has 3 flaps

[lofty nacelle]

Good question
because I was focusing on vanguard fleets

[twin lion]

also ditch the cranes and btds lol

[vernal abyss]

he has 2 improved quad mag torp

[lofty nacelle]

I know I should, but I kept forgetting to sell them

[ebon hazel]

ignore the enhance levels here

I should say

[vernal abyss]

yeah this should blast it TBH

[lofty nacelle]

alright thanks.

thanks for helping my dumbass

[vernal abyss]

but if shimanto isn't fs5 doesn't she need her weapon ?

[ebon hazel]

I think it'll be fine

[vernal abyss]

can i ask about why izumo gun instead of the daisen on musasi for the boss

[ebon hazel]

oh they do have a Daisen gun

[lofty nacelle]

I have 2

[ebon hazel]

yeah I would use a Daisen gun

[twin lion]

nice

[lofty nacelle]

huh, why does Yorktown II don't use the skyraider

[vernal abyss]

these fleets are giga stacked i can't think of a scenario in which they fail at

[forest lintel]

Skyraider bad for campgin

[ebon hazel]

it's worse for AoE than the Helldiver even

[lofty nacelle]

alright, thanks

[ebon hazel]

I suppose you could make a case for it in this set up

[vernal abyss]

i want to ask if u can exchange proto for a tenrai at least

also what is this ur gear ?

oh nvm it looks like more type 93s

[twin lion]

also just stash all those gear on ships you are not using.. its a waste of gems to expand depot

[lofty nacelle]

I did

[twin lion]

yeah i noticed lol

[lofty nacelle]

question, how good is Wyvern

I have to trick my brain a bit

[twin lion]

barracuda > breguet > wyvern

[lofty nacelle]

I see. alright thanks

[ebon hazel]

I would get one or 2 at least

[twin lion]

i forgot if spearfish is worth crafting over wyvern though

[ebon hazel]

I would tempted to recc it over the wyvern

if T3 Ordinance reports weren't so scarec

[vernal abyss]

he seems like an old player with so many ijn guns so there is a chance that he has many ordnances

[lofty nacelle]

oh and uhh

the boss fleet failed at 13-3

the mob fleet worked splendidly'

[ebon hazel]

Uhh

How exactly did it fail

[lofty nacelle]

what?
I don't get it

The vanguard died

oddly enough it beaten 13-4

but not 13-3

[vernal abyss]

just get lucky smh

[lofty nacelle]

Blessed in Gacha, cursed in campaign

[lofty nacelle]

Didn't realized this was edited.
Guam died in the tank position and then the rest died.

[ebon hazel]

So how long did the battle last before Guam died

[lofty nacelle]

A different one, this time Unzen died twice in auto.
The first time she didn't survived but was able to win.
This was the second attempt

[ebon hazel]

is that Unzen off tanking?

yeah it is

she should be in the middle

also Amagi and Shinano are a bit too close together given the gear I recced

[lofty nacelle]

Alright then

[lofty nacelle]

Wdym

[ebon hazel]

I mean their airstrike cooldowns/launch times

[lofty nacelle]

Then, what should I do?

[ebon hazel]

you coppied this exactly?

swap the Barracuda and Breguet around on Amagi and Shinano

[lofty nacelle]

Yes

Oh wait

I put the wrong torp bomber

Black Vit

[ebon hazel]

Yeah

That wouldn't helo

[lofty nacelle]

sorry for the very late silence

I came back from campus, suddenly changed of schedule made by campus

uhh, a few questions.

1. are they all supposed to almost eliminated/die everytime they win? (one of them somehow clutched it)
2. what switch formation? I put mine to Anti-aircraft at the moment

[ebon hazel]

That would be a no

[lofty nacelle]

wdym?
the eliminated part?
Sorry.

[ebon hazel]

Yes

[ebon hazel]

Also did you do that or

[lofty nacelle]

I did

I think

or did I messed up again

so
Breguet on Amagi
and
Barracuda on Shinano?
am I correct?

[ebon hazel]

Yes

[lofty nacelle]

so I did made a mistake

[vernal abyss]

i personally use convg torp on mamagi

[ebon hazel]

why do yoy have a stagg on Guam

why is San Diego not using a rudder

also I said put a white Vit-2 on Shinano....

the idea is to have the 2 desync

Amagi clears the last mob waves

giving Shinano a clear strike at the boss

[lofty nacelle]

I thought-
Hmm
I may be stupid

[lofty nacelle]

Update.
For these is well

I somehow missed them

[ebon hazel]

battle still taking too long tbh

ah well

try and get some better gear in the mean time

[vernal abyss]

TBH he just needs to lower the threat level and it will be like 12-1

[lofty nacelle]

Fair enough.

I'll come back in a few months or something

I guess the UR Gear Lab stuff?