Gear help and fleet somehow :yay:

[solemn condor]

i need it for brest

the 4 iris libre points

or another way!

spend sr bullins to some iris libre ship!

so whats worse?

[ancient wolf]

spend core data

[solemn condor]

thank you

[ancient wolf]

is the worse one

[solemn condor]

spending sr bullins is more

tbh

[ancient wolf]

if u want more tech points there are 2 good options

1 is bearn from the merit shop
2 jda from wa

[solemn condor]

well from merit hehe

i want south dakota

:p

[ancient wolf]

but for someone who is still in w10 why do u want to jump to pr5

a DR5 ship is harder to mlb than the other ones mainly the DR4 ones

[solemn condor]

not to jump

just to be prepared

[ancient wolf]

u need to understand first how the shipyard works to do the needed preparations
wanting to sacrifice currency for 4 tech points for a ship that u won't make it in a usuable state for idk how many months is an unwise move overalll

but u can start by doing war archive for jeanne d'arc

although it is heavily not recommended as u want to focus on the iron blood tech

[solemn condor]

i have her already

already like 2nd time limit broken

1 more i need

[turbid pier]

yeah the thing is you really don't have the resources to sapre to prepare for thatright now

also remember, PRs and DRs are pretty useless before dev 30

and it will take a few months to accumulate enough BPs to dev 30 a PR

[ancient wolf]

also the wise choice to choose from the perma banner pity was another shinano to be closer to mlb her and not sima nor kron
so that is a heavy account blow u did there

[solemn condor]

saint louis wasnt

tbh

[turbid pier]

again

that says more about how easy the content you were doing

[solemn condor]

yea true

[turbid pier]

than the strength of a non dev 30 saint louis

[ancient wolf]

this game is brute force by overlevel until u can't

[solemn condor]

well

[solemn condor]

so random question

is kursk any good

[ancient wolf]

[solemn condor]

(i want to use her so badly fr)

[ancient wolf]

not sure how this kit is applicable in a specific content

most likey for new players where she can sink enemies easily

i was thinking about w14 but TBH sinking enemies there might not be as easy but overall dps oriented ca

with a light armor

[solemn condor]

so then?...

[ancient wolf]

then what ?

[solemn condor]

should i use her

or can i

[ancient wolf]

are u still using these comps ?

[solemn condor]

well

yea

also what is comps

[ancient wolf]

comps is a plural of comp which is an abbreviation from team composition

[solemn condor]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

awesome sure

[ancient wolf]

generally u want to build 2 comps starting from w9 and stick with them until u finish w12

any change u make will just slow u down

[solemn condor]

yea i have 2 fleets

[ancient wolf]

if u are ok to be slowed down u can do whatever u like

u can change spee with kursk if u want

[solemn condor]

and yes i am using still the fleet but...i changed for now only shimikaze for javellin

idk

with shimikaze the fleet is faster somehow for dodging and so

[ancient wolf]

sima

[solemn condor]

but when i will go to again world 11

i am using again javellin

i am just using her for now to level her up

[ancient wolf]

sima = island in japanese
note that si = shi

[solemn condor]

if its okay even

[ancient wolf]

yes leveling them to 120 is a standard route that way u have 5 level advantage in 12-4

ur first goal is to make 12-4 safe to be able to farm there whatever ship u like

[solemn condor]

and i am glad urs dont have that limit like every other ships have

like only max level then u need lmb

i am really happy for that

[solemn condor]

yes

[solemn condor]

so i can also farm implacable

[ancient wolf]

it doesn't matter for urs better to leave them until u can invest bulins into them or planning to do it in the very near future like 1-2 weeks
or else it is a waste of time and oil

[solemn condor]

well

at least when they are mlb

or so

they have at least some levels

and they are not lvl 1

xd

[ancient wolf]

u can use the dorm

[solemn condor]

thats maybe slow way

idk

but works too ofc

and rn for fun kinda i did this so i can have more points and why not

i need submarines too

[ancient wolf]

the first thing u want to try to do is to try to understand how a functional team is built then based on that u can adapt ur choices for various stuff like which ships to use or when to mlb them
we are here trying to help u to do this for now by offering as much flexibility and clearing the future vision

[ancient wolf]

if u need a sub for the weekly raid then u want to use the starter ijn one

[solemn condor]

i have 2 sr submarines already

[ancient wolf]

suchi has a video for it and u want to stop at lvl 65 for a while

[solemn condor]

Maggiore Baracca i use

then uh

[ancient wolf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxC2Iy4XVfE

[solemn condor]

u-96

[ancient wolf]

5 min easy to understand video

[solemn condor]

ig

anyway uh then

c-can i use kursk then somehow

is it any useful?

[solemn condor]

yea but uh

like replacement

for someone

in it

.<

[solemn condor]

this is fun

portland 0 damage fr

also yes rn i am doing all stages or trying at least

to get them to 3 stars

all of em

[solemn condor]

level 74

1 more level away

[solemn condor]

just before pls

kursk good or bad

😭

like maybe she could be better than chien wu...

[solemn condor]

may i spend

600 gems

for oath ring

to marry bismarck

[solemn condor]

but also a thing

when i would uh

get a temporary employment?

or get to a high school

i would maybe buy gems anyway

but like only for cheap id say

idk

and well to anyway say

bismarck is just

❤️

[solemn condor]

okay lets do so

oath for bismarck

sorry yall

yk what

lemme use still bismarck from now

fr

[solemn condor]

shes now my flagship also

instead of nj

cuz the skill

ig

[turbid pier]

she's not particularly good

[turbid pier]

well to late now but if you're f2p I would discourage spending gems on anythiing otehr than dorm slots and dock space

[solemn condor]

wdym

[solemn condor]

ah alr

[turbid pier]

dock and dorm slots are basically your quality of life helpers in AL

i.e. they making playing the game more comfortable

and you have a very limited income of gems uf you're a free to play player

[solemn condor]

yes

but well

i may change it soon

to spend like sometime

like from time to time

because of google rewards

like 1$ sometimes

for 60 gems

but since this would be first ever purchase then 120 gems

or i can just buy more

to have the bonus!

[turbid pier]

my rule of thumb would be

if you're gonna get rings and skins

don't spend gems you haven't bought with real money

[solemn condor]

oh

well

i couldnt resist of bismarck.........

sorry

[solemn condor]

only 1 more left

also for it i have 3/5

so yea

i need somehow to get 2 more but idk howww

[solemn condor]

well sadly

i guess then

tomorrow ibuki

[solemn condor]

ibuki is home

so well

what gear

or from who

@ancient wolf what gear on ibuki if you know

or from who

[ancient wolf]

depends on what u have

usually it is the tech boxes ones

[solemn condor]

well

you know what i have

xd

but i can still get some stuff too

[ancient wolf]

if u don't have this then its purple version

as main gun

[solemn condor]

here

[ancient wolf]

for the torp slot this is the prioritized one

[solemn condor]

i will take one from portland i guess

[ancient wolf]

use this one

[solemn condor]

also i can have portland already on retrofit so i will have more bonuses

[solemn condor]

so which one

oh yea

i dont have the 1st one

anti-air?

[ancient wolf]

use the gold ones then the purple ones

prioritize gearing the vanguards

[solemn condor]

what

so i can use uh

[solemn condor]

this one i can use?

[ancient wolf]

craft only the twin 113mm

this is for the vanguards

[solemn condor]

ah

so um

this good?

i dont have the sr one

[ancient wolf]

yeah works as a poverty option

[solemn condor]

okay now

aux

and also i will make her augment somehow

[ancient wolf]

toolbox and an eva gear

[solemn condor]

wait what eva gear

at this like moment

oh

from eugen

[ancient wolf]

the blue ones

[solemn condor]

gud

or not

[solemn condor]

wait the steering gear or

what

or i can just do this

she would be replacement for eugen anyway so

[ancient wolf]

the washing machine is on the main tank

[solemn condor]

boiler?

[ancient wolf]

usually the boss fleet

[solemn condor]

this?

or gyroscope

[ancient wolf]

washing machine is the rudder

[solemn condor]

i dont have that maybe?

[ancient wolf]

doesn't it look like one

[solemn condor]

OH

it doesnt look like washing machine to me sowyyy

😭

well?

yes already made augment

my money gone

[ancient wolf]

the washing machine is on the main tank

leave ibuki for a while until she is dev 30

[solemn condor]

well shes normal level 56

but i will replace her for eugen

could work for boss fleet

[ancient wolf]

if u want to push campaign with her she will sink in 5 seconds

[solemn condor]

well

for now shes lvl 10

[ancient wolf]

still very far

[solemn condor]

*12 now after more enchant

[ancient wolf]

keep coining her for 2 more weeks

[solemn condor]

i found i have still blueprints

m wait

is she getting the dev level by playing with her?

[ancient wolf]

no only regular levels

dev levels from this menu only

[solemn condor]

oh

[ancient wolf]

originally it was by only blueprints that u get from the research then they made it easier by the catchup and coining

note that it is highly not recommended to use any of the catchups before pr4

[solemn condor]

ah

what is catchup

huh

[ancient wolf]

go back 1 menu from the shipyard on it left

there is the research

[solemn condor]

ohhh

yea

well

[ancient wolf]

on the bottom right

[solemn condor]

i used it

[ancient wolf]

there are 2 mechanics

[solemn condor]

for saint louis

because i didnt knew i would get someone else

[ancient wolf]

rip 1500 protocores

i used also for louis

not a big deal

but u have to save the rest

[solemn condor]

wait uh what 1500 protocores

wait what

i used the blueprints in research

i had focus on her

[ancient wolf]

when a ship reaches dev 30 u can analyze the remaining prints

[solemn condor]

ah yes

[ancient wolf]

to get protocores from them
SR prints give 5x each

[solemn condor]

faint stimulation

[ancient wolf]

UR give 20x

[solemn condor]

oh so i can just

[ancient wolf]

fate simulation is another thing

[solemn condor]

use normal not used for anyone prints also?

[ancient wolf]

u need to understand how the system works

[solemn condor]

because how i am able to use ur

yes shes on max

but nothing like that shows

[ancient wolf]

between coining and having ready blueprints in ur stash the system will prioritize ur blueprints over ur coins

u can't choose with which method u want to increase the dev level if u have them both

it is always bp > coins

[solemn condor]

yea but

u said

[solemn condor]

.

you mean that for dr ships

or

[ancient wolf]

if u use the catchup to get 300 bp for a non dev 30 ship u have no other choice but to use them to make the ship dev 30

thus losing the opportunity to analyze them for protocores later

[ancient wolf]

dr is ur

pr is sr

[solemn condor]

yea

[ancient wolf]

but also pr means the whole series

[solemn condor]

yes

[ancient wolf]

so in general if u want to start a catchup start doing it from pr4

anchorage agir hakuryuu

[solemn condor]

aha

well

[ancient wolf]

u can also use fdg but it will stall a little bit getting the ur gear from the ship

[solemn condor]

for pr4 i want avp

and i am not changing that

then i will make agir

[ancient wolf]

don't u have implacable ?

[solemn condor]

i do

not on mlb

[ancient wolf]

why the role redundancy then

get something that will cover an important role in the fleet

[solemn condor]

avp could do

[ancient wolf]

anchorage is something that will stick with u everytime u want a solid tank

do u know what avp does ?

[solemn condor]

i dont have tech points

[solemn condor]

slowing enemies

[ancient wolf]

where is this debuff useful ?

[solemn condor]

and for avp

i have like almost all finished, i just need like 1.8M more xp for iron blood and i have her

[solemn condor]

boss fleets

[ancient wolf]

yeah always do whatever u can do
and try to not sleep on the other factions
mlb can lead to a nice boost just need coins and bulins

[solemn condor]

yes

well

or hah other way

i can have avp

then agir

but also

having shinano mlb and implacable also

so kind of 3 good aircrafts

[ancient wolf]

yeah cv bossing is something that won't be achievable easily
that is why early on it is better to ignore them or make them a secondary bossing fleet and use the BBs instead

[solemn condor]

well she could maybe replace enty at some point prob. so she can slow them down and bbs are more accurate

[ancient wolf]

it will take a lot of time because raising these ships is a time consuming process

[solemn condor]

yes

[ancient wolf]

usually u want to finish all the pr4 ships - marco but for someone who has implacable it is better to skip avp for someone else in the next pr series

and before all these fdg

fdg then agir anchorage

then see what u can unlock after gathering more techpoints here and there

[solemn condor]

fdg would be my pr2 ship yea

[ancient wolf]

[solemn condor]

but um

i cant make marco also

and well idk the avp could be like maybe also good for 2nd fleet somehow

i dont know

[ancient wolf]

that is why i said -marco

[solemn condor]

like then maybe

boss fleet implacable

[ancient wolf]

-\ is minus

[solemn condor]

mob fleet maybe shinano and avp

or unicorn and avp

[ancient wolf]

when u reach w12 u can level whatever u like

usually by that time unicorn will be maxed so u want to run 3 leveling backliners

and usually they have to match the cdc of the ship that u are researching

[solemn condor]

well then...

should i run on the back implacable and shinano

[ancient wolf]

so if u are doing avp u have to use 3 iron blood backliners

[solemn condor]

or one of them

[solemn condor]

well rn i went to research roon to give her few points to have her also unlocked

shes also close

[ancient wolf]

u need to focus in 1 goal then do whatever it takes to make it

the most obvious goal is to go to w12

that is where u can get enough exp and coins to progress everything

if u will spend on side stuff before w12 it is just going to slow down the process

[solemn condor]

well yea but

if i should level

some ships

to match the level

implacable or shinano

but maybe shinano

at this point

[ancient wolf]

ignore them all

[solemn condor]

why i cant

[ancient wolf]

did u finish 11-4 ?

[solemn condor]

cant even get there

i dont have 75 lvl yet

74

[ancient wolf]

start doing opsi

finish at least chapter 4

[solemn condor]

i finished opsi

kinda

[ancient wolf]

shop me the information tab

[solemn condor]

sure

[ancient wolf]

go to the port

and screenshot the information tab

[solemn condor]

what

[ancient wolf]

press the back arrow

[solemn condor]

ohh

[ancient wolf]

there is the information button on the bottom

[solemn condor]

well

uh

[ancient wolf]

so u are almost done from ch4

good progress but don't forget about it

[solemn condor]

yea

[ancient wolf]

do whatever they tell u in the mission tab

[solemn condor]

um sure

[ancient wolf]

the top one

u can ignore the side ones

[solemn condor]

but why i cant level up the shinano or something so she can then be same level or so

[ancient wolf]

better to level up the current fleet so when u are able to go to the next world u can beat immediately

generally w11 is a lot better

shinano's main power comes form her planes

all her skills are useless in ur case

without mlb she does 40% less damage

basically unicorn level of damage

[solemn condor]

so shes like same level as unicorn now

by damage

[ancient wolf]

if they have the same level

[solemn condor]

aha

m well

cant she prob. replace kaga then?

[ancient wolf]

kaga does less damage than unicorn ?

i honestly never used her

[solemn condor]

so

can kaga

be replaced by shinano?

like i would replace shinano for her

so then unicorn and shinano

in mob fleet

@ancient wolf

pls

[ancient wolf]

answer this first

don't repeat the same question

[solemn condor]

ah

by me

i think yes

by the tab also

she does lower damage than even the bb

and unicorn just being mvp still

and sorry

[ancient wolf]

can u show her gear ?

[solemn condor]

kagas gear?

and unicorns?

[ancient wolf]

only kaga

[solemn condor]

oki

suggested by cheeky

[ancient wolf]

very good setup

very low gear level

[solemn condor]

unicorn has same levels gear

[ancient wolf]

keep farming an enhancing

[solemn condor]

and shes better

kind of

[ancient wolf]

unicorn tends to get mvp because of her skill

[solemn condor]

still

isnt just shinano better

than kaga

[ancient wolf]

without mlb shinano does 40% less damage

[solemn condor]

i mean

should i try her

like 1 time on some stage

in the world 10-4 as example

and which one deals more dmg?

[ancient wolf]

if u want to test u can

[solemn condor]

with both same gear

shinano would have this

here is shinano

[ancient wolf]

yeah forget about it leave shinano for now until she can be mlbed

[solemn condor]

kaga only has good thing because of the skill reload i have on her

thats on max

[ancient wolf]

no it is about mlb

the last star for shinano is what makes her do no damage

[solemn condor]

yea kaga does more

even somehow...

[ancient wolf]

the only backliners who can be run at 5☆ are nothing but hakuryuu and nakhimov at dev 25

[solemn condor]

so not using shinano

i wanted to use her fr

[ancient wolf]

that is why using the pity for shima was kinda of an oupsie move

[ancient wolf]

u should have listened to the helpers then

[solemn condor]

i know i am dummyyyy

i just want to use shinano

or implacable

queen elizabeth meta / normal also fr

because i have the meta

[ancient wolf]

qem is very early to do now

[solemn condor]

and shes bad right...

[ancient wolf]

it is one of the hardest meta fights to prepare for

[solemn condor]

well

[ancient wolf]

u first start with something like souryuu meta

[solemn condor]

i have her already

i wanted queen elizabeth itself for so long

next meta i want is nagato

or normal one at least

[solemn condor]

yea shes cool

ig

but also

i think maybe the andrea doria is a bit weak so

should i just try to mlb one of these

[ancient wolf]

ideally this is how u want to fight the meta showdowns https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1321982185548546048/1352652932394254396/image.png?ex=68070176&is=6805aff6&hm=8d5d6690e5f190c3830faae46e9617b782e1455603b078c0d2ed63b0cf5e19e4&

[solemn condor]

wow

[ancient wolf]

next one is u want to do at least 50% of the boss hp reliably so u can 2 shot

oh strimm has started

[solemn condor]

oh yea

xd

[solemn condor]

but before

which one if so

[ancient wolf]

ur ships have been slacking on levels

as i said earlier just mlb when u need tech points

prioritize the elite ones then blue

leave the SR ones the last

[solemn condor]

y-yea but

what bb i should use

of them

because i think andrea is a bit weak

[ancient wolf]

nelson

[solemn condor]

shes on the lowest

no lmbs

massachusetts is closests to mlb

1 star away

[ancient wolf]

easy to mlb because elite but also needs retro

[solemn condor]

queen elizabeth also

[solemn condor]

i used them on deutschland

or well

[ancient wolf]

u have the weekly missions

[solemn condor]

i have warspite

[solemn condor]

yes these

[solemn condor]

i could maybe do her...

royal oak i heard is good

[ancient wolf]

i m not sure about how the SR BBs function

i was born in a spoiled era but still i used nelson

[solemn condor]

when you retrofit warspite she becomes ur

[ancient wolf]

basically i used uvh as my first bb after starting with penny

then nelson fdg

i didn't get a BB medal shop for a very long time that is why i didn't get hood until 6 months into the game

[solemn condor]

well

[ancient wolf]

do it after 4 years for collection

[solemn condor]

4 YEARS?

[ancient wolf]

yeah she isn't worth the 2k specialized core

sandy is more worth

worthier

[solemn condor]

well sandy

[ancient wolf]

half a bulin for someone who is starving for them is a bad idea

better to put it into something that has a good return

sandy is a good return

i did it after 8 months of gameplay to do w15

[solemn condor]

idk i just think i should use better bb

like the mass...

[ancient wolf]

u have 3 choices nelson retro hood or royal oak

[solemn condor]

cuz shes close to mlb

[solemn condor]

why not her

if shes even close to mlb

1 star

only

but i mean uh...

i could mlb royal oak

shes cool anyway

just if mass before or not

since soon i can mlb her with weekly quests

or use it instead on the royal oak

[ancient wolf]

did u read her skills ?

[solemn condor]

well

so no right

so royal oak is it then?

[ancient wolf]

answer my questions

it was a yes no question

the easiest type

[solemn condor]

oh

yes

[ancient wolf]

now read royal oak first skill and spot the difference

something major between them

[solemn condor]

yea i see

[ancient wolf]

and this also why BBs can be used at lb2 and cv can't

so what did u see ?

[solemn condor]

royal oak would be better

after mlb

to use

instead of mlb massa

?

[ancient wolf]

what did u spot as difference between the skills

[solemn condor]

massa is eagle union ca/bb

which could only work for nj but that is in boss fleet

[ancient wolf]

faction buffs are memes most of the time

[solemn condor]

royal oak the dd

[ancient wolf]

the only relevant ones are of shinano and yk2

[solemn condor]

which could work for javellin

oh wait

even for shimikaze

gud

well then

royal oak right

[ancient wolf]

u elegantly missed the major part

[solemn condor]

yes this also

[ancient wolf]

not this also

this only

[solemn condor]

but thats a good thing right

[ancient wolf]

this is the only reason why any BB that doesn't fire a barrage is 🚮

[solemn condor]

ahaa

[ancient wolf]

the other day i recommended someone to use raff at 3☆ and level her red skill

[solemn condor]

i wanted raff

so badly

but no luck

:c

well royal oak then yay

now i need another bullin

and coins

wel

[ancient wolf]

u want to learn how to compare between the ships

[solemn condor]

could she be used even at 5star? for replace for andrea

[ancient wolf]

why did i put royal oak the last one

[solemn condor]

thats why i get rather help

since i am dumb

[ancient wolf]

if u read what the description says it will be easy to tell

[solemn condor]

she has barrage?

[ancient wolf]

a conditional one

it says there when she gets hit

[solemn condor]

yes this

barrrage

[ancient wolf]

this is hood

with the augment

[solemn condor]

ah

[ancient wolf]

the condition of firing the main gun is way easier to fulfill than being hit

especially if u mount fast reload guns

[solemn condor]

so hood is better

then

[ancient wolf]

mainly this one

this is called the barrage gun

because most ships fire barrages when they fire the gun

it is between hood and nelson

nelson doesn't have a 100% barrage i think

[solemn condor]

well

did i choosed royal oak and lmb her to know hood is better anyway

or what

i am just lost

[ancient wolf]

it is better to save the gold bulins and invest into nelson

and she is a lot cheaper to raise to 120

[solemn condor]

so i choosed bad right...

[ancient wolf]

it doesn't matter much

all of them are good

[solemn condor]

thanks

and at mlb i should start using her instead of andrea right

[ancient wolf]

but leveling them up from the ground with ur speed of farming might be not a good idea

ur are kinda slow

slow players should stick with what they have

[solemn condor]

um

[solemn condor]

i knowww

b-but i am trying!

[ancient wolf]

i m in #jp-spring-2025-livestream-discussion now

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alr

have fun

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hopefuly yea

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um question

is volga gud

(shes hot but i dont have her yet)

[ancient wolf]

side healer and can be used to low cost

using a side healer can be mandatory or a luxury depending on the team comp and content

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aha

well

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what about amagi but not the cv

if i should buy her if she gets reroll?on may

for the 80 medals

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Yes or no?

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Well i can have akashi rn xd

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i have akashi

and south dakota

so what now?

is even south dakota somehow good

by her skill of double damage

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No

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You can but she won't be anything other than tech

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:c

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thats not fair fr

why amagi isnt good

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she's old and been powercrept

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same with kaga and akagi

wouldnt it be

better idea

to run franklin

instead of kaga

xd

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if you could MLB her yeah

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or well one of those

elbe maybe idk

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also

enhance her and you'll be fine

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shes on max level

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she's not the best but certainly not bad enough to warrant replacing

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*mlb

so with here help i instead want to go with royal oak but 1 more lmb away

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I mean actually enhance her, and getting her skills leveled

Royal Oak is probably a worse choice tbh

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so i fucking spended 2 sr bullins

because @ancient wolf said its a good idea

i-i...

if 1 more fricking mistake

i am using queen and thats it

no more

maybe the meta one cuz better

yea should i get to mlb queen meta instead

xd

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just stick with Doria META until W12

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sjfhjdfjuja

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you don't have the time/resources nor the need frankly to switch out ships at this stage

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but why i cant replace doria for some other bb

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The fleets I originally reccomended are sufficient for the task

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dont i have good thing that is better

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just get more levels on them, enhance their gear, etc and they'll be fine

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because W12 is the best spot to farm in the game pretty much

so the sooner you get there the better

once you do, then you can start looking into some more long term replacements

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really nothing better?...

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I mean Nelson retro yeah

but like I said

Doria is fine for the job of getting to W12

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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frankly, you'd lose more trying to replace her than just sticking with her until you get to W12

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well i got lvl 75 finally

but since well royal oak is 1 more away from mlb

then i dont know

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Enhance her, level up her skills, level her up, etc

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well she's still gonna be inferior in levels

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like

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so don't bother with putting more into her

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what

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get her red skill up more

that's her barrage

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yea i am trying

and is queen meta better

at some point?

and also got this from event if its any good

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I mean yeah

but thats a long ways off still

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yipe shes better

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yeah it's a good CA gun

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and what about nagato if not amagi

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the only good BB from the medal shop is Hood

the rest are just tech

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would she be better

or useful

somehow

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no

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oh cmon

:c

i want themm

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well on who to put it then

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one of your CAs that's not Saint Louis, doesn't really matter which

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mm

portland?

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sure

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for the 203mm

alr sure

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also why not

like nothing replaces that doria?

only the hood?

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nothing that would be worth leveling and replacing Doria until after you get to W12

and even then Nelson retro would be better

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i dont want nelson

too much job

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not like the others are gonna be much easier

you're severely lacking in gold bullins

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because its a retrofit

i just finished portland retro

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and i doubt you have much in the way of XP packs either

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100 of them now

for level up

like

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so as I said, leveling up another BB to replace doria right now is not practical and doesn't make sense

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so at world 12

when i would finish it

i must still use to also next worlds doria or not

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depends on how much you play really

if you're active shouldn't take more than a week or 2

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no, at W12 you can start looking at a more comprehensive reworking of your fleets

because you have a good place to level them up and farm coins

I still farm W12

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well

um yes also

mind if you show the quests for shipyard 2

i dont understand from the wiki

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what part don't you understand

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what quests would be there

and

how the speed up would work

i dont understand this

and still how it works

when i get to shipyard to

if i have again all the pads again or

more stages in world i need

i am lost

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(the parantheses) indicate the reward for that seaosn

so for the PR4 mission

you need to build a PR4 ship

and you'll get 30 DR4 prints for completeing them

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well

since like i would have shipyard 2 as next

which is well

fdg then

how that would work with quests

that i can collet some already

or

the quests are different

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the missions are the same for each season with some minor variation

the variations are noted in the parantheses

it also tells you which ones are retroactive

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well

um

i-i should already get some at season 2 right?...

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once you start them yes

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and if i have already promised ship, do i need to again or i would get it anyway

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do you know what retro-active means?

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no

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ahaa

so that means

i would only need

to do 30 daily challenges

30 hard modes

100 commissions

30 researchs

20 ships

gud

maybe not that bad

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yes

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well i am still few away

and these last i would use on roon

and i would have roon then

like soon she is anwyay ready

but for now i can switch probably to develop fdg more

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did you use combat datapacks for that?

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UHHH

M-MAYBE

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sigh

always convert those to prototype cores

grinding XP is the easy bit

espeically once you get to W12

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for me not that much

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that's why you want to get to W12

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and i will not also convert those for research 4

since avp

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becomes a much simpler and quicker task

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shes already just

when next pass season again i can make her

if i wont get her sooner xd

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my dude

just trust me, get to W12 and then see how fast teh XP grind is

you can use just about anything in W12 with ease

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the ships are high level arent they

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like that's my farming fleet for W12 right now

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well

my iron blood fleet

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worst case scenario, you use Unicorn

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this wont

make w12

this really wont

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well of course not

but once you get to W12

you'll start to be able to generate XP packs better

you'll also have more slots in the dorm

you also do know you only ever need main fleet or vanguard XP right

for the combat data collection missions

so running a full faction fleet is utterly pointless

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what

?

wdym

like i can have it as a 3rd fleet

not running it

and it would anyway work or what

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I mean when it actually comes time to grind

I got the impression that's what you were going to use

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and no it wouldn't work as is

even a 1 LB UvH and Elbe at level 90 would have no issues farming in W12 on safe

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elbe?*

maybe

idk

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only these 2 or wha

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my dude

I've leveled hundreds of shitty ships in W12

they'll be fine

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the idk was for idk if elve is a ship

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and its really safe to use only these 2

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that's the worst case scenario in case you need to run Unicorn as a carry

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what about

akashi and unicorn

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what no

utterly pointless

Unicorn is the most you'll ever need for W12 on safe

and once your gear situation starts to get a bit better you won't even need her

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well

my goal is to then prob

get to w12 as you say

get 4 tech points somehow for iris libre

farm brest

and i have a good ship

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not really

as I said you'll want her at Dev 30 for that

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okay only

to hopefuly clear something

if i was correct

in my mind

is nakhimov the strongest aircraft carrier in the game?

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there is no universaly strongest ship in the game

it's always situationally dependent

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by power idk

just by me nakhimov should be the strongest

strongest bb Zwei / Alsace maybe

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she isn't and they aren't

as I said

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WHAT THE FRICK

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strongest is always gonna depend on what you're fighting

they might be the strongest for an fight but far from all of them

and besides, you would never use any of them solo anyway

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i-i want nakhimov

same with zwei / alsace

i want to use them in future if i obtain them

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I'm not saying they're bad

I'm just saying they're not the best for everything

if you want a short list of what the best fleets are usually composed from

BB: Musashi, Alsace, Soyuz, Kearsarge, Bismarck Zwei, Raffaello*
CV: Amagi CV, Shinano, Hakuryu, Nahkimov, Implacable, Yorktown 2, Fritz Rumey, Unicorn, Aquila, Volga, Zuiho, Independence
CL: Plymouth, San Diego, Shimanto, Jintsuu META, Helena, Auroa
DD: Z52, Mogador, Laffey 2, Eldridge retro, Kazagumo
CA/CB: Hindenburg, Unzen, Agir, Brest, Napoli

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wowie

hidenburg is also my goal

mogador and alsace ofc

when rerun next year

volga is also yay

i want to get volga somehow so yea

amagi is also on my list

and zwei for sure

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yayyy

xd

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early r100> doesnt matter

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Ik but i am happy xd

I got on lb

!!!

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javellin retro done soon

+i can also but with the prototype core data the crown

of her

DONE

FIRE

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@turbid pier MAYBE BAD QUESTION BUT, when i get little anchorage, should i use her

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How should we know how good or bad she is

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um okay but like

when we can say

little fdg compared to fdg

it can still be good right?...

so this could work probably also right?

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but maybe by the little circle i dont know

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That doesn't tell us anything about the skills or equipment slots for one

Two, those aren't even accurate

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but well like
little fdg and normal fdg. When i would had little fdg i could use her because she could be good right?

so maybe same could go for this?

or is little fdg just trash

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Little FDG is not good

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really not?

so this could also not be good?

i wanted to have at least little one so it could work...

BUT MAYBE IT COULD BE REPLACE FOR SPEE!!

if i dont get new stuff even before

i want all of the new girls

so ye

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also next little question
what is the difference bewteem spee and deutschland

they are 1:1 same or

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also uh

world 11 done

now i need 5 more levels for world 12

and i can farm

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maybe bad question but, if i would have get the new cv sr on mlb i can replace her for kaga right? even if we dont know her powers but like from the graph idk... @turbid pier

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what SR CV

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the uh

her

from the graph

if she could be good

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she's a light cruiser

says it right there

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i thought cv is a aircraft

again i am dummy

fr

well but

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CV means character voice

or voice actor

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oh

OH I DIDNT READED LIGHT CRUISER

SO SORRY

well um

she could maybe replace portland if so right

portland retro

from graph

and somehow only their name on wiki xd

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we have no idea about her stats or skills

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and by the graph maybe?

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and we won't untuil we get the datamine in about 8 hours or so

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that tells us nothing

they're not consistent at all

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idrk

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like I've seen ships labeled with A and C FP in the same hull type

but the ship with C in FP will have higher FP stat than the ship with A in FP

and that doesn't eevn account for skills which play quite a significant role