Gear help and fleet somehow :yay:

[ancient wolf]

[solemn condor]

Here is dock

Here their gear

[turbid pier]

not as bad as I was expecting but still pretty bad

[ancient wolf]

yeah it is very bad

2/10

[solemn condor]

What you mean 😭😭😭

[turbid pier]

first off, do you have 2 SR Bullins

[solemn condor]

I am stuck on just fricking 10-3 and i barely move to some point i just only can grind iron blood xp on 3-4 really

[solemn condor]

No i used those for heinrich

[turbid pier]

a waste to be honest

[solemn condor]

She was 0 lmb

[ancient wolf]

this calls for show ur depot too

[solemn condor]

Not my gear oh god 😭

[turbid pier]

you should have waited until you could MLB her

because right now

you just wasted 2 bullins into a useless ship

[solemn condor]

Thats gonna be again so bad as i got suggested to use some rare gun on scylla and she turned out to be bad asf

[turbid pier]

when you could have used them for scylla and gotten quite a good unit ready for your fleets

[turbid pier]

that's not scylla's fault

[ancient wolf]

show ur depot

[turbid pier]

Scylla is good

and one of her best guns is a blue

but you didn't max limit break her

[solemn condor]

IABUBSUBEUBUWBUBDU J

[turbid pier]

so you knee capped her performance and judged her in an incomplete state

[solemn condor]

Gimmie a fricking second for depot

Ah gonna crash out on this so much

[ancient wolf]

it is easily fixable with what u have

[turbid pier]

anyway
Mob: Doria META, Unicorn, Kaga, Chien Wu, Javelin, Spee
Boss: NJ, Enterprise, Bismarck, Eugen, Saint Portland, Louis

your next 2 SR Bullins go into Scylla and she replaces Spee

[astral swan]

saint portland...

[turbid pier]

they have nothing else leveled up

[solemn condor]

I am not using spee

[astral swan]

no bc i thogut it was saint Louis

[solemn condor]

Depot

[turbid pier]

it is

[ancient wolf]

lets see if we can gear these 2 fleets after this late depot showing

[solemn condor]

Lowkey i am not using portland

[turbid pier]

you don't really have that many options

[turbid pier]

any why not?

[solemn condor]

I can use her also but just i dont use her rn

[solemn condor]

Bad.

[turbid pier]

she's not

[solemn condor]

Her retrofit isnt full

Only good retrofit and retrofit also i completed is unicorn

[turbid pier]

that's no ideal but as I said, you don't really have that many options

nor do you have the luxury of time

she's good enough and will have to do

[solemn condor]

She dies so much fast

Shes not a tank or smt

[turbid pier]

and believe when I say I do have an idea of what I'm talking about

[solemn condor]

Really not

[turbid pier]

do you want my credentials or?

[ancient wolf]

what about the blue gear ?

[solemn condor]

What

[solemn condor]

Why blue gear

[astral swan]

reload im guessing

[turbid pier]

believe me when I say, I know more about the game than you do

[solemn condor]

And i am not going back to start it for 3rd time 😭

[turbid pier]

some blue gear is good

[solemn condor]

I started in lny.

2025 lny

[turbid pier]

ok and?

[solemn condor]

When chien wu was

Back or smt

Rerun idrk

I am still new

[ancient wolf]

lets focus on the main point show the blue gear

[solemn condor]

Ofc you would know more 😭😭😭

I am still new

[solemn condor]

JUST TELL ME WHAT TO USE I HAVE LIKE EVERY BLUE GEAR ID SAY

I DONT WANT TO TURN IT ON FOR 3RD TIME 😭

[turbid pier]

ok then, so just listen to what we have to say and follow our advice

give me a minute to put everything together

and please keep calm

[fallen holly]

Quick question, is this a “I am not currently using Spee” or “ I really don’t want to use Spee even temporarily.”

[solemn condor]

What the fu-

[turbid pier]

no need to turn on all caps

[solemn condor]

I am not Currently

And i can use her anytime

Shes lvl 109 and my oath ofc

Shes cutie rlly

[fallen holly]

Cheeky was referring to his suggested fleets when he talked about the replacements, which you can see here.

Portland’s also in the safest spot, so you won’t have to worry about her dying.

[ancient wolf]

don't go past 10 if u don't know what u are doing

[fallen holly]

Well, unless Cheeky meant to put St Louis in the middle instead of St Portland.

[solemn condor]

Its a good weapon.

[fallen holly]

It is, but not worth gold plates.

[solemn condor]

Well

[ancient wolf]

these are ur best torpedoes currently
the second best one are these

[solemn condor]

Sorry just already crashing out

[ancient wolf]

scrap this garbage

[solemn condor]

What i would just have today in few hours waking up already just really

My mood being down

[ancient wolf]

use this instead

[solemn condor]

I dont even use it rn and no i am not scraping any elite+ gear

[ancient wolf]

scrap the btd because it will give u some plates

[solemn condor]

Nah i am not

[ancient wolf]

some wasted plates

[solemn condor]

I am keeping all elite+ things

[astral swan]

i have a some of those, do i scrap too

[ancient wolf]

yeah scrap all they are the most useless db

[astral swan]

k

[solemn condor]

Same goes for ships

[ancient wolf]

ships and gear are different

[solemn condor]

I dont even have anyone to use it on.

Enty is already in a good gear

[turbid pier]

empty slots mean use whatever there for now

you need to open some tech boxes for the helldiver and 3rd Mk6

[ancient wolf]

look at what cheeky gave u

[turbid pier]

oh wait sorry

there

[solemn condor]

Why portland.

[ancient wolf]

he can use the pr5 db as a placeholder if he can't get another helldiver ?

[turbid pier]

you have no one else leveled

[solemn condor]

Javellin

Idk

Spee

[turbid pier]

and you need ideally want to start pushing like now

[astral swan]

what site is that

[turbid pier]

Javelin and Spee are being used in the mob fleet

[solemn condor]

And not even using the good white aircraft?

That enty has already?

[turbid pier]

and they're even less tanky than portland

[turbid pier]

that aircraft is shit

[turbid pier]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[solemn condor]

And i got told its good

And it is really

[turbid pier]

the purple Helldiver is better

[solemn condor]

So i wasted some blueprints from Saint Louis

Why shit is so hard

I dont want to use some shitty portland i want to use smt good.

[turbid pier]

you have no one else leveled

and I'm telling you portland is good

if you gear her and the rest of your fleet correctly

[solemn condor]

I dont even have her retrofit

Not even the material

[turbid pier]

you don't need to retrofit her for her to survive in the middle

[ancient wolf]

yeah use these 2 comps to push to 12 then level whatever u like
if u want to waste more time on suboptimal stages u can level in w10 whatever u like

[turbid pier]

I reiterate, i know more than you do

[solemn condor]

What

Okay now uh

Why 2 bbs

I need unicorn for health

[turbid pier]

you don't have another good ship leveled

[solemn condor]

The fleet is dying anyway

[turbid pier]

and Unicorn is being used in the mob fleet

[solemn condor]

I need health support

[turbid pier]

uhh no

that's not how you beat a boss

[solemn condor]

I use 1 fleet only not 2

[turbid pier]

you do it by killing them quickly

[turbid pier]

you do know what the penalty for fighting without ammo is right?

[ancient wolf]

do u know what ammo does ?

[solemn condor]

No

[turbid pier]

your ships deal 50% less damage and take more damage without ammo

[solemn condor]

And when i get to know, i forget

❤️

So thats why i should use fleet with kaga for mob

The 1st in the pic

[ancient wolf]

and max ammo is like some % of damage bonus

[solemn condor]

And the 2nd one for boss

Or

[turbid pier]

yes

[solemn condor]

Okay

I am so fricking glad you didnt say any helena

[turbid pier]

4+ ammo is 20% more damag dealt yeah

[solemn condor]

So happy

[turbid pier]

I would have if you had the resources to level her up

[solemn condor]

I dont even want to use her

[turbid pier]

or were so lacking in options that that was the only viable option

[turbid pier]

why?

[solemn condor]

Just really no.

And what i got also

That helena is better than Heinrich

What just

[turbid pier]

what

they do different roles so they're not comparable really

but raising Helena for your fleets would have been prefferable to Henrich yeah

where are you even getting your info from

[solemn condor]

This server

This channel

[turbid pier]

you're either listening to the wrong people or grossly misinterpreting what they're saying

[solemn condor]

Ima just friend you

Cuz having even 100 collection

Is trusten help fr

Also wouldnt it be good idea to use if i level her up a akagi

With kaga

[turbid pier]

sorry, I don't do advice through DMs anymore

[turbid pier]

no

Kaga is mediocre

and so is Akagi

she's just being used because there's no other options

and you can't limit break anything else

[solemn condor]

So i need then to always ping you or what

[turbid pier]

this is why

[turbid pier]

you can ask here or in the main channel and if I have time I will respond or someone else will help you

[ancient wolf]

just a reminder for the comp since chat is going up kinda quickly #1361820282414829812 message
use this aa gun on nj then the rest fill it with whatever u have golden then purples

[solemn condor]

Well, i used not lmb 0 tier nj and she was still dominating

[ancient wolf]

do u have an idea about how the level difference mechanic work ?

[solemn condor]

Which she even did at 2nd lmb

But now

I just want kron

Then start to save up for Bismarck zwei

[turbid pier]

that says more about how easy the content you were doing was

rather than the strength of a 0 limit break NJ

like, the bar for early campaign is really low to the point where even a 0 limit break UR wouldn't have issues

[ancient wolf]

yeah i remember up to w7 i had tashkent finishing the fight by herself low level content can't be a reference to benchmark anything

[solemn condor]

The someone else will help hah, thats where i get those bad infos..

And bad help

[ancient wolf]

if u show a proof then i can be convinced that u got fed misinfo

[solemn condor]

It was in dms but sure

[ancient wolf]

here if someone gives a misinfo someone else will almost instantly interrupt and correct it

[turbid pier]

I dunno who in here still does DMs

[ancient wolf]

nntkt but only for japanese people i think

[solemn condor]

And that was for enty

[solemn condor]

Thats where i want the help mostly, not other people hating me for what i use

[ancient wolf]

oh faer
and technically he gave u the right order of recommendation helldiver was stated first

[turbid pier]

faer.....

[solemn condor]

What with him

[turbid pier]

sigh

we're acquaintances and I do trust him

I don't know what the entire convo was and I don't really care to know truth be told

[ancient wolf]

yeah faer almost contributed by 70% to help me to clear 15-4

[solemn condor]

What is accuaintences?

[turbid pier]

but suffice to say he either didn't know how bad things were and/or you didn't read the stuff he sent or what he said correctly

[solemn condor]

So like same personality or smt

Idrk

Eng is not my first language

[turbid pier]

no

it just means I know who he is

[solemn condor]

Oh

[turbid pier]

and he knows who I am

[solemn condor]

Well

In few hours i could build the fleet

And hopefuly win...

If not

I will just go to your dms cheeky

Because then idrk

If it wont work

[ancient wolf]

as i checked now the damage table it looks like the pr5 db has only an advantage against light armor then loses a little bit against med and by a large bit against heavy in comparison to the helldiver

[turbid pier]

if you really want to contact me just ping me in this channel

I'm sorry but DMs I will ignore

[turbid pier]

yeah

[solemn condor]

Also random question uh

Would then a fleet with Avp, nj, implacable

Would it be good

[ancient wolf]

[turbid pier]

assuming everyone was leveled and MLB relatively yes

but AvP is redundant with Implacable in the fleet

you'd use someone like Enterprise instead

[solemn condor]

Well i am making avp because she could be good at some point hopefuly

[turbid pier]

not really

[solemn condor]

And i am not making Agir as everyone else

[turbid pier]

Implacable is just straight up better

[solemn condor]

If so i will get 4 more tech points for iris libre to make brest

[solemn condor]

Instead of some agir at this point

[turbid pier]

I mean, suite yourself but she's one of the best tanks in the game and coinable

unlike Brest

[ancient wolf]

before diving into pr u want to understand what u are doing first

[turbid pier]

and yeah, you're really not in a position to be focusing on PR at all

[solemn condor]

Yea ik that but brest is still good thing...and maybe harder but...worth it

[ancient wolf]

agir will serve u better

[turbid pier]

I'm not saying not to do Brest

I'm saying wait until you're at a point where you can actually make her good

because right now you can't

[solemn condor]

I am dumb after all, even irl

[ancient wolf]

the shipyard and research mechanic with the protocore shop is kinda overwhelming so try to understand it bit by bit

[solemn condor]

But well, when i would have avp, i would be already saving cubes for Bismarck zwei

Thats my goal

For next year my goals are alsace

[turbid pier]

you have maybe 2 months before Zwei reruns at the current rate

and in between then almost certainly the CN Anni will drop

[solemn condor]

It should in July

[turbid pier]

bringing 2 more URs

[solemn condor]

Thats alr

Bismarck zwei for win

When i have implacable already ik i have decent fleet with it

[turbid pier]

famous last words if I've heard them

[ancient wolf]

yeah the cn anni bz was also a cn anni ship

[solemn condor]

Now just kron and done

[ancient wolf]

do u know why implacable is good ?

[solemn condor]

It should be in july by faer

[solemn condor]

Slowing enemies

[ancient wolf]

u need to understand how synergies work

[solemn condor]

High dps

[solemn condor]

What is synergies again

[ancient wolf]

she stops enemies on airstrikes yes

do u know what bz does ?

[solemn condor]

I forgot

But uh

Iron blood boost

High dps maybe

[ancient wolf]

she has a black hole skill basically something to fixate the enemy in a spot

[solemn condor]

Ah yes

That

I forgot abt that

But well

Then having

Alsace and zwei

Hihi

Good fleet

Mmm

Would then be Zwei, implacable, Alsace a good back?

[ancient wolf]

yeah bz alsace musasi soyuz are the top bbs followed by vanguard now

[ancient wolf]

it depends on where u want to use them but it sounds a little bit weird

[solemn condor]

And not by nj

[ancient wolf]

i think the rest of the BBs share the same spot more or less in terms of damage but raff beats them because of the utility

[solemn condor]

I could't get raff

Because? I am not p2w ❤️

[ancient wolf]

generally bz is used with 2 more BBs and implacable with 2 more CVs

in campaign stages u can use bz implacable and someone else because the 1 bb 2cv ratio is pretty much the standard in w14 and w15

[solemn condor]

M

Well anyway

[ancient wolf]

#1361820282414829812 message a smol reminder

[solemn condor]

Its soon already 1am and i have alarm on 5am

[ancient wolf]

[solemn condor]

Yea

And also some school out day idk

With my legs being broken asf

So happy yay

...sigh well

Good night thanks for help

[ancient wolf]

[solemn condor]

maybe only thing i could do is that i would dm you if it was success or not

if it wasnt success, could you ping me back in the gp help to maybe edit it

if it will not be success

[solemn condor]

okay now

lets test it

10-3

moment of truth

LETS GO

@turbid pier TYSM I LOVE YOU ❤️

@ancient wolf AND YOU ALSO

FINALLY

[ancient wolf]

as long as u don't get stuck in 11-3 it is fine

[solemn condor]

why 11-3? whats there

[ancient wolf]

keep enhancing both ship and gear levels and u will be surprised how u finished 12-4 like a breeze

[ancient wolf]

a meme

[solemn condor]

oh

well uh

12-4 is for coins right

farming

also i made a decision, i am gonna retrofit javellin and portland!

but i am low on coins

[ancient wolf]

if u want a summary u can read from here #1347588938176663664 message

[solemn condor]

what is so bad on 11-3

2 bosses?

[ancient wolf]

u only see 2 bosses in w15-3

it is a normal campaign stage where u want some kind of a healer in the mob fleet and a boss fleet

there are smurfing players who can 1 fleet until beating w12

[solemn condor]

so my fleet would be bad for it?

[ancient wolf]

just need some more levels that is it

usually 11-1 is a good place to farm for levels

[solemn condor]

so my fleet is already good enough, fire

[ancient wolf]

yeah early game stages can be brute forced by enough levels

it is a joke

[solemn condor]

well when i get implacable which i need 2x more ur bullins...i wonder in what fleet and what replacement i should use it on

and then later kron

[ancient wolf]

in campaign it works as any other cv

[solemn condor]

yea but

if i should then have it in the mob fleet or boss fleet

[ancient wolf]

doesn't matter much until w14

[solemn condor]

xd

so then mob fleet instead of kaga i guess so then

[ancient wolf]

in w14 u want to have at least 1BB and unicorn in the mob fleet

a pseudo healer can take a spot too

[solemn condor]

akashi can be good also?

because i am few days away from making her

[ancient wolf]

i don't know much about akashi TBH she is still lvl 1 here

cheeky was using her in 12-4 to carry grey ships

that is all i know about

[solemn condor]

wdym carry?

[ancient wolf]

this is her loadout

w12 is the start of seeing many planes in the screen

to counter the enemy planes u need to shoot them either from ur planes or the aa guns

[solemn condor]

oh

also rn i am using the su-2 on kaga because i dont have the 2nd helldiver? idk rn

[ancient wolf]

99% of the ships have only 1 aa gun
akashi has 4

[solemn condor]

fire

[ancient wolf]

better to use leveled up gear for now

min maxing leave it for later

[solemn condor]

i can also show uh

after i finish 2nd 10-3

my aa guns

what i puted on ships

[ancient wolf]

not important

as i said yesterday

the hazen on nj then the rest use gold then purples

here #1361820282414829812 message

[solemn condor]

i use that on nj

[ancient wolf]

also one thing to note is when u want to level 2 of the same plane for example f4u corsair it is better to level them equally rather than focus on 1 and leave the other

and make +8 as a baseline

so level them to +8 then +9 then +10 and not +8 to +10 for one and leaving the other at +8

this is the general idea

[solemn condor]

ah

[ancient wolf]

early game for coin and purple plates is about this smol resource management

it can make a difference

also leaving the gold catapults at +6 while enhancing the evasion gear for example

is another key

[solemn condor]

oh

if my andrea wouldnt been so low i could do all

[ancient wolf]

these eva gear are a focal point of survival

[solemn condor]

ammo supplies +1...

yk what

ima risk it

to even have the 3rd star

[ancient wolf]

do u know how to raise a meta ship ?

[solemn condor]

yea

[ancient wolf]

its mechanic is a lot different

can u show later her fortification ?

and skill levels

[solemn condor]

ye

sure

aha her skills

only 1 skill is lvl 9

[ancient wolf]

usually the skills are the same as gear

u don't focus on 1 and leave the others at lvl1

since the first 6 levels are easy to get

it is better to +6 all the skills first then focus on the red ones then yellow then blue

[solemn condor]

she was my best until i could mlb nj

then i left her

anyway i did it now only the boss

[ancient wolf]

one thing to note too
if u are struggling on the vanguard survivability u can change the line to the double line for more eva

i m a single line enjoyer myself and i don't care about people calling it trash

[solemn condor]

oh well

uh i use some circle or smt?

[ancient wolf]

here u can change it

[solemn condor]

so funny

uhh

i could probably make it auto now right?

or rather not still

like auto battle

so i dont need to press buttons for torpedo and etc

[ancient wolf]

if u are facing so many random enounters in the map u can equip 1 of the sg radar to reduce the chances

[ancient wolf]

u were playing manual all this time ?

[solemn condor]

yes

when i know i wont clear it

i do manual

but now since its 50% only

it could be easier

[ancient wolf]

well ur backline is running low level comp so i don't know how it will go

[solemn condor]

welp lets see

[ancient wolf]

what is ur current commander level ?

[solemn condor]

72

and really really soon 73

[turbid pier]

It won't be any easier

[ancient wolf]

w11 won't be unlocked until 75 so u have more time to prepare

[turbid pier]

The difficulty doesn't start decreasing until you 100% the map and get the threat level down to safe

[ancient wolf]

87 ?

[solemn condor]

yea but like the damage from enemies or smt

[turbid pier]

Your damage dealt and damage taken doesn't change until you 100% clear

[solemn condor]

also from this, what i should use

[turbid pier]

Ans anyway those fleets were built with auto in mind

And did you enhance the gear

[solemn condor]

yes

some i didnt because i dont have material ofc

and i am already making javellin / portland retrofit

i just need coins

[solemn condor]

ooooh

[ancient wolf]

do jav when u want to increase the collection

an shan is a lot better to retro as a dd

[solemn condor]

who is shan

[ancient wolf]

from ur dock

[solemn condor]

oh

well javellin is already high level

because i needed her for the newcomer thing

xd

[ancient wolf]

yeah u can leave her non retro and save the dd retro prints for an shan

she is like 5x better

or more

[solemn condor]

or even better idea, get shimikaze instead of kron

[ancient wolf]

oh wait anshan needs the retro item

retro items cost specialized cores that are shared with the ur bulins

and also sandy retro item

do u have fu shun ?

[solemn condor]

i should

[solemn condor]

i have that

[ancient wolf]

#1361820282414829812 message
saving this here for back tracking

yeah then save the retro bp for fu shun

a lot better option

[solemn condor]

wouldnt just shimikaze be better atp

[ancient wolf]

no because she costs a spark and ur bulins

[solemn condor]

first auto defeat

[ancient wolf]

usually want u want to save for is shinano and the other events

if the next event doesn't have a BB then vanguard will have a high standing too

[solemn condor]

i have shinano

xd

1 more lmb from full

[solemn condor]

i dont want vanguard

😭

i want bismarck zwei

thats why i want to save cubes after i get kron

and i need 200 cubes

+then coins

which by coins...it should be 400k coins

[ancient wolf]

u want to have 600 cubes by 20th of may just in case u get unlucky with the cn anni and if they decide to make bz rerun in june

[solemn condor]

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GET 600 CUBES AS A F2P???

IF I WAS P2W I HAVE ALL THE BEST FR

[ancient wolf]

i m a f2p who deliberately pities ur banners

i go to 200 rolls for ur events i mean

dupes to mlb the ships

[solemn condor]

yea but

600 cubes

by 1 month...

its not possible

when u say you get like 3 cubes only per day

[ancient wolf]

basically this is impossible without the pity tech

[solemn condor]

from missions

[solemn condor]

alsace ❤️

amagi ❤️

i want both of them

[ancient wolf]

that is an extreme case scenario where u can get insanely unlucky

[solemn condor]

no it should be 3 cubes per day

[ancient wolf]

if u get 300 cubes by 20th of may it should be a safe spot

[solemn condor]

3 battles = 2 cubes

1 hard mode battle = 1 cube

and thats all by whole day

and if really lucky then commissions

[ancient wolf]

cubes income varies widely but u can assume with a consistent play u get 230 per month

at least

[solemn condor]

well

30 cubes by 10 days

[solemn condor]

but bismarck zwei should be in june / july no?

why earlier

[ancient wolf]

there is still 5 more weeks until the cn anni which is 260 more cubes from what u have now so very close to 300

[solemn condor]

well, i am in en server

not cn

[ancient wolf]

and i m in jp as u can see from the pic i sent just earlier

[solemn condor]

yes

so well

in cn it would be earlier right

but in en

it should be by july prob.

and by july, i could save 200 cubes for zwei

[ancient wolf]

no we all get the events at the same time

all servers will get the cn anni at around 22th of the may

then bz rerun in late june or late july

most likely late july

[solemn condor]

yk its not possible for me to get 200 cubes by 1 month

[solemn condor]

yes

thats what i want

i only want bz

not something else

alsace wont be in it

so why would i spend cubes

alsace + mogador rerun next year

[ancient wolf]

depends on what in the event

it might be something better who knows

[solemn condor]

and also you wanted to see this yea

[ancient wolf]

or something that doesn't share the same role as alsace and bz

[solemn condor]

and if so i can buy some

[ancient wolf]

not worth

just use the ship as this for now

u can get these mats from the current showdown

dossier might be a hassle to tackle now

[solemn condor]

well i already have hornet meta

and i dont play it anymore somehow

cuz ik shes bad

anyway last 10-3!!!

then i did 10-3 and

i even have the rewards for 10-3 on 3 stars

because on how much i was struggling i defeated so much enemies already for 2nd star

[ancient wolf]

looks like the one that can enhance doria meta is at 60k points too so not worth the time too

[solemn condor]

ah

better is to buy it atp

its anyway 5 only

[ancient wolf]

not worth

[solemn condor]

well i dont need the crystals

[ancient wolf]

u buy them from the opsi shop when u need

[ancient wolf]

did u buy the ships ?

[solemn condor]

nope

they are bad

so why

[ancient wolf]

they have the most impactful tech in the game

u don't need to mlb them too

[solemn condor]

noone told me anything

level 73!

[ancient wolf]

basically i just used books

[solemn condor]

the 1st one i have

i think shes bad

the 2nd one i dont have

lemme ask better

[ancient wolf]

this is what i left in the shop

all the other ones u get for their tech

[solemn condor]

@turbid pier question, would some ship from the meta shop be better than what i have now?

[solemn condor]

tech points youve meant?

[ancient wolf]

no, stats

meta don't have tech points and if they do it is the same as the minor faction
it doesn't do anything gameplay wise

for example yamashiro meta increases the BB rld stat

[solemn condor]

i have yamashiro

[ancient wolf]

rld stat can make u faster leading to more damage in boss fights

[ancient wolf]

both yamashiro and the meta have rld stat at lvl 120

[solemn condor]

well

i reached saint louis lvl 120 after having her for like 2/3 months

[solemn condor]

and always using her

[ancient wolf]

that is why it is better to get the rld ships first before spending on the opsi mats

[solemn condor]

last 10-3

bossfight...

finally its over

10-3 finished

[ancient wolf]

[solemn condor]

❤️

JUST XDDD

eagle tech pack

well lets see

again!

2 more

where i get those

mmm

maybe clearing stages in hard mode right

yea

problem, i am doing akashi quest so i cant lowkey hihi

[ancient wolf]

i just told u to do fu shun instead

jav is for collection

[solemn condor]

shes not even mlb

[ancient wolf]

doesn't matter saving the retro bp for her is the optimal way

[solemn condor]

i am closer to javellin

instead of fu shun

[ancient wolf]

[solemn condor]

yes i am dumb

ik

[ancient wolf]

no ur not

u just didn't follow the advice

which tbh doesn't matter

it is a game after all

[solemn condor]

fu shun would take a time

+lmb

+levels farming

+coins again

while javellin just needs 2 more retrofit parts and 3k coins and 1x javellin itself

and i kinda have it done

[ancient wolf]

the investment that u do for an elite ship to make lvl 85 isn't that big

[turbid pier]

Replace the fire control radar with a fire extinguisher on doria

[solemn condor]

alr

fire suppressor right

[turbid pier]

That also means you're not active enough

[solemn condor]

i am

but how am i able to get so much cubes in 1 day

[turbid pier]

Just cycling through commissions should on average almost double your daily cube income

[turbid pier]

Yes

[solemn condor]

i do that

but i have bad luck xd

[turbid pier]

Evidently not enough

About how many commissions do you get through in a day

[solemn condor]

uh

i do the shortest ones

with cubes only

and idk

when we say 4 of them are 1 hour then

[turbid pier]

You should be doing all of them

[solemn condor]

prob. 15?

idrk

[turbid pier]

Even if they don't give cubes doing them frees up that slot to roll a commission that can give cubes

Doing more sorties also gives you chances at proccing urgent commissions

[solemn condor]

i do urgent ones

[turbid pier]

You're guaranteed 168 cubes a month so income per month should be closer to 200-250

[solemn condor]

well

i am only saving cubes

for bz

after getting kron

which progress now for pity 364/400

[turbid pier]

Are you pulling on the special/hevay banner

[solemn condor]

heavy one

[turbid pier]

Why

[solemn condor]

it counts +2

+ur drops

[turbid pier]

You do know the light pool also contributes to pity right

[solemn condor]

yea but i have chance also to get it from special/heavy

thats why

[turbid pier]

But you basically get a free pull on the light pool per day

[solemn condor]

thats where i got from this month shinano and uvh

[turbid pier]

Not to mention the perma pool is well perma

[solemn condor]

yes

[turbid pier]

It's ot going away

Whereas Zwei's rerun will be limited

[solemn condor]

yea but, kron is a good ship that when it would somehow get to mlb it will be good

[turbid pier]

And any other UR event for that matter

[solemn condor]

if the specific ur is bad then no need

[turbid pier]

Which at your current rate will take you a month or 2

[solemn condor]

i get like

[turbid pier]

There really isn't such thing as a bad UR

[solemn condor]

+4 points to pity per day which is lets see

[ancient wolf]

kron is the only ship that i have skipped

[solemn condor]

well

[turbid pier]

In fact Kronshtadt, Shima etc could be argued to be the least useful of the gclacha URs period

[solemn condor]

oh frick

nvm its good

9 days

probably

to get kron

36 points missing

and by +4 every day

[turbid pier]

Sigh

[solemn condor]

so kron is really bad

or what

[turbid pier]

This is not gonna end well

[turbid pier]

She's redundant

There are plenty of other ships that do her job and more/better

[ancient wolf]

if he is willing to skip top tier meta ships i guess he can do this strat

[turbid pier]

Combined with the fact she cost UR bullins

[solemn condor]

i am not 😭

idk just what to get

[turbid pier]

She's at the bottom more or less of the priority list

[solemn condor]

so its not worth it

[turbid pier]

Well I'm telling you

Ignore Kronshtadt

[solemn condor]

alr then

then i can start saving already again

[turbid pier]

Get Vanguard or get a dupe of Shinano next time you hit pity

That's what you should do

[solemn condor]

well i dont want vanguard

[turbid pier]

She's good

Better than NJ and UvH

[solemn condor]

but well the point

then after few moths, bz

that should be better

[ancient wolf]

i already explained the BB situation

[solemn condor]

so i dont want to spend it on vanguard

[turbid pier]

Vanguard complements Zwei quite nicely

Like

[turbid pier]

Her, Zwei, Soyuz was the BB meta for a time

Not to mention you have 2 fleets

[solemn condor]

but yk, i would likely want to mlb zwei instead of vanguard

[turbid pier]

Yeah

[solemn condor]

when then later

i can mlb zwei in "1 go"

[turbid pier]

Doesn't mean you'll work on Vanguard

[solemn condor]

just levels then would be the case

[solemn condor]

i would get her ofc

[turbid pier]

Just means you have her around in stand by

[solemn condor]

but first i want zwei

and if i get vanguard anyway

i am not lmb her

[turbid pier]

Yeah

I'm saying MLB her now or next

You already have plenty of others to work on

[solemn condor]

true

while implacable + shinano waiting

for 1 more lmb

[turbid pier]

I'm saying for your next pity option

Get Vanguard or a dupe of Shinano for limit breaking

And save up for the CN Anni like I said

AL has an interesting habit of trying to one up the old URs with each new one they release

[solemn condor]

well uh

case is

i have then next 2 months for zwei farming

+the coins

and idk how often the cn anni ships are

when i just started few months ago

[turbid pier]

Cn Anni is once a year at the end of May early June

Almost certainly gonna be a new UR event

Maybe 2

[solemn condor]

well

how often they are good

and they could be better than what i have now

[turbid pier]

Every single gacha CN Anni UR has been meta defining

2021: NJ
2022: Vanguard
2023: Bismarck Zwei
2024: Alsace

[solemn condor]

ooooooooooooooooh

i want bz and alsace

so yea

but well

seems like they are all bbs

hmmm

[turbid pier]

We know nothing about the CN Anni ships

But general trend of new URs as a whole says they'll be better than the older URs

[solemn condor]

ah

but maybe still

seems like it would be another bb

if still it is like this

[solemn condor]

i got a next question kind of

would friedrich der groBe be better than nj?

[turbid pier]

in certain contexts yes

mainly W14

[solemn condor]

so when i would start series 2 in this, i should make fdg?

and even so, i cant make anything else in it anyway rn

[turbid pier]

sure

[solemn condor]

well uh

today i can clear at least 10-4

and seems like its easy also

really happy

you are best helpers

❤️

[ancient wolf]

[solemn condor]

10-4 boss is so free

fr

[solemn condor]

chapter 10 done

i love you guys ❤️

oh i didnt knew when i complete the pr1 missions i can do it again then well

@turbid pier should i get roon or who?

from pr1

[turbid pier]

you don't need to get anyone

the last mission is retroactive

[solemn condor]

oh wait

i cant even get to the series 2 missions...

nvm

i am dumb

i did that rn fr

does it mean on 3 stars?

also uh if anyway

roon then?

from pr1

or anyone else

[turbid pier]

no

try logging out and back in again

those missions can be a bit buggy in updating

[solemn condor]

oh

but really um

roon or

[turbid pier]

doesn't really matter tbh

like I said if you want a Shima replacement

get Ibuki

[solemn condor]

shima is uhhh

who

[solemn condor]

shima is shimikaze or

[turbid pier]

Shima is Shimakaze

[solemn condor]

so ibuki and she could be replacement for javellin right?

[turbid pier]

sure

[solemn condor]

okay tysm now uh

its fully gone!

and still...

[turbid pier]

yeah

gotta repeat the series one missions

[solemn condor]

again?

all again?

[turbid pier]

yep

except for the 6 that are retroctive and the last one

[solemn condor]

what ones i need to repeat

to unlock

[turbid pier]

all the ones that are not complete right now

[solemn condor]

30 daily challenges...

30 hard more...

100 commissions...

[turbid pier]

it's more free prototype cores

[solemn condor]

well

still

i cant unlock the 2nd one..

[turbid pier]

you'll unlock the 2nd series misisons after completeing this set one more time

all your combat data packs should be converted to prototype cores anyway

and the blueprints won't help that much

[solemn condor]

well

i would still need them for completing ibuki

xd

[turbid pier]

just grind out the XP normally

won't be that long in W12

also, you know you can coin her right?

[solemn condor]

wdym coin her

[turbid pier]

I mean you can ehnace her directly with coins after you unlock her

same goes for all the ships from PR1-4

and the Golds in PR5

[solemn condor]

oh

[solemn condor]

why i had a dream

before i woke up

scene where i unlocked vanguard

😭

[solemn condor]

is this good?

@turbid pier

[astral swan]

yes very good

[solemn condor]

I CAN

SO WHO

WHO IS IT

@turbid pier

i am still thinking shimikaze...

and then to have ibuki as a replacement for prinz eugen

i am sorry i am just dumb but i want shimikaze so badly :c

[solemn condor]

yk what...

i am taking shimikaze

i cant wait just

shes such so cute

and shes powerful at least

i am happy

ima spend

all mine 76 data packs

so she is lvl 59

k done

uh

now what on her

i puted on her gear from javellin

[turbid pier]

Ibuki is not a sub for Prinz Eugen

[solemn condor]

idk xd

well

[turbid pier]

And you a 0 limit break any ship is garbage

[solemn condor]

sorry :c

well

she did a good job in 10-1

xd

[turbid pier]

Like I would take a MLB unretrofitted starter over a 0 limit break Shimakaze

[solemn condor]

shimikaze

[turbid pier]

I mean considering this lot works for 12-1 on safe

That really doesn't say much

[solemn condor]

oh

well

but it may be a good sign that she did like no damage at 10-1?...

[turbid pier]

That's not a good thing

[solemn condor]

oh bad

sorry

[solemn condor]

my bad i meant like she didnt took any damage

that she did damage killed some enemies

and so

sorry my bad

[turbid pier]

Yeah as I said, not really saying much considering it 10-1

[solemn condor]

well

until i would get yk

higher

i could have her mkb

*mlb

or at least some lmb

[turbid pier]

yeah don't

this is why you shouldn't

[ancient wolf]

weren't u the one who was focusing on getting kron or am i mixing up things ?

[solemn condor]

i wanted kron

but um

shimikaze um...

[ancient wolf]

why ask about it then

just pick whatever u want

[solemn condor]

yea

shimikaze is cutie

and i want to use her also

[ancient wolf]

it doesn't matter

we are helping u to clear content

[solemn condor]

yes

it works

well now i just need 2 more levels

for 11 chapter

[ancient wolf]

keep using the fleets that cheeky suggested to u

level them in 10-1

to be ready for the next chapter

[solemn condor]

m

and should i grind the levels in event one?

since yk at least

i dont need to still do retire ships

and it gives some good xp also

[ancient wolf]

not sure about the event

[solemn condor]

i am doing the hard mode stage on repeats

kind of works

[ancient wolf]

at least go to 15k points imo the rest shouldn't matter much not sure

these event formats usually are very suboptimal on everything

and what makes this one even worse is that it doesn't have a shop i think

only some milestones

[solemn condor]

well

[ancient wolf]

so campaign stages after w9 are a lot better in everything

[solemn condor]

the like

hospital one

it was giving me alot of xp tbh

[ancient wolf]

i skipped the whole event and did some at the last day

these non shop events are garbage to me 🚮

spending time in the campaign is more fruitful

[solemn condor]

well i did it because if i am right

it had good reward?

idk now lemme see

oh right yea

700 core data

thats what i wanted the most

for roon muse

[ancient wolf]

nice waste of core data

[solemn condor]

i wanted her

shes a tank xd

[ancient wolf]

investing in smol ships is a waste of time and effort

and it is more impactful on early progression ofc

[solemn condor]

i didnt even had chapter 10 at that time

[ancient wolf]

maybe we can discuss little illustrious but that is only for w15

the rest of the smol ships are just memes to use around

when someone is done from the game

[solemn condor]

well now i want to get uhh

Émile Bertin

for 4 tech points

for iris libre

so then i can make brest

i am 4 tech points away from her

her unlock of emile gives 12 points but i need 4 anyway

[ancient wolf]

yeah tech points is one of the worst things that these little ships don't provide

if u want french tech look for something in the guild shop or merit

[solemn condor]

for 1200 core data

now i have like 650

*650

[ancient wolf]

i m sure u can do better with 6.5k than using it for tech

oh even worse