w13-w15 fleets and gear

[pale jolt]

e

so sould i post my docks? @golden scaffold

[fast falcon]

yes

[pale jolt]

vanguard

main

[golden scaffold]

hey sry was in main chat

gimme a sec

[pale jolt]

All good dw xD

[golden scaffold]

FdG, uni, volga, guam, z52, shimanto
Soyuz, amagi fritz agir helena unzen
This breezes through ch13

For 14 u need to level a few ships
can u filter rainbow and show all rainbow ships
and tell me how much spec core and UR bulin u have

u know how to gear stuff?

[pale jolt]

Nope xD

[golden scaffold]

if u dont know show depot and turn on equppied filter
and take a few screenshots
up to purple gear

but lets do UR ships first

[pale jolt]

One sec

[golden scaffold]

how many UR bulins

[pale jolt]

1

[golden scaffold]

if u want to tackle ch15 first MLB laffey is high prio

[pale jolt]

i can almost buy 2

[golden scaffold]

it means skipping implacable MLB for later

do u have eldridge retro item?

and do u have sandy retro done?
i didnt see her in your first screenshots

[pale jolt]

this right?

[golden scaffold]

yes

[pale jolt]

i distain her so i wont use her lol

[golden scaffold]

she is one of the best ships for ch15

i guess we can do it without her but still

[pale jolt]

ik

i just dont like her at all-

[golden scaffold]

show depot let me gear your stuff for u

are u doing opsi btw

[pale jolt]

yes i just need to re gear them as well-

as i updated my fleet recently-

[golden scaffold]

ok that is decent gear

[pale jolt]

still working towards more and more from gear lab xD

[golden scaffold]

can u get this gun in protoshop?

[pale jolt]

nope xD

if only i had enough for atleast 49 then yeh xD

[golden scaffold]

can u analyze anything like this?

or excess blueprints

[pale jolt]

id rather keep those for PR ships since i still have many to do

thats all i could do

[golden scaffold]

well do this at least if they are excess

try and get that gun when u can

[pale jolt]

i could say f it and use some UR from hindy since she dosent have a dev 30 tho

[golden scaffold]

it will help

[golden scaffold]

that is not a good idea tbh

better use it for gear

xp grind is extremely easy

[pale jolt]

ig

thats all i have

[golden scaffold]

analyze it now

[pale jolt]

alr

[golden scaffold]

dont be lazy about xp grind
u can do it with 0 oil if u wanted to

[pale jolt]

wuh?

so ig i now own this

[golden scaffold]

yes get it

[pale jolt]

already did xD

also why did i have this plaens BP beffor even buying any, i only needed to buy 4 to get it

see same thing with this gun lol

[golden scaffold]

ok this is for chapter 13

[golden scaffold]

u can ignore this for now

get it later

u are on series 5 focus in academy right?

[pale jolt]

yes

[golden scaffold]

that amagi tenrai is another helldiver

my bad]

so this is fine right?
tell me when u did this
then we can talk about how u can prepare for chapter 14 and 15

[pale jolt]

aight aight

i have more then enough oil to wipe the world xD

witch fleet is boss one and mob one? (nvm realised since one has healer)

and also is uni nesecary when i have a 125 healer? xD

her specificly

[elder rune]

perseus is only good if u are doing 15-4 mob boss mob

[pale jolt]

guh

[elder rune]

listen to faer's advice he is the pro

[pale jolt]

ik

[golden scaffold]

unicorn better
percy is very niche
and overall worse than uni

did u do the 2 fleets?

[pale jolt]

getting em redy

also for vanguard dose it go in the order as the screen shot has from top to bottom as in 1st to 3rd?

@golden scaffold i dont have this

nor the 2nd one for shimanto

[golden scaffold]

my bad

upgrade 2 of these in gear lab

and use the upgraded versions instead of the rainbow gun

[golden scaffold]

if u mean the torpedo it is easy to get

[pale jolt]

that one?

[golden scaffold]

make the blue torp then upgrade in gear lab

[golden scaffold]

yes

u should have BP for the blue torp already

[pale jolt]

i mean i could get the UR gun

if its a worthy investment i dont mind getting it

[golden scaffold]

well u are on series 5 focus right?

when u are done with plymouth and brest dev30

buy the amount u need

so u dont buy more

[pale jolt]

i could trade 30 of hindys rn for enough to buy the UR gun

since who knows when she will get her dev 30

[golden scaffold]

u mean fs5?

yeah u could but no need imo

and dont rush that gun

the gold 155kai works fine

only plymouth really needs it

so like I said when u are done with plymouth and brest

buy the blueprints that u need for 50 for the gun

[pale jolt]

cant craft this one

i dried out of these after crafting 2 of the guns

[fast falcon]

hellcats will make do

[pale jolt]

Alr got em geared

[golden scaffold]

yeah hellcats are fine for now

sry had to go

ok so this should clear ch13 easily

for ch14 and ch15 we want to prepare the following (get them to level 120 as well)
1- MLB laffey II
2- retro eldridge (I dont want to hear I dont like her )
3- volga, shimanto, guam, fritz, amagi, z52, FdG, New jersey level 120-125
4- 3 of the following carriers, get them to MLB and level 120

5- anchorage or brest level 125 (brest wants dev30 as well)
6- keep farming opsi for gear
7- finish series 5 and move on to series 7
8- use selector PR prints to get shimanto to fs5 (also use catchup on her if u have)
9- level a submarine fleet
show me your submarines

ping me when u are back with the sub picture

[pale jolt]

aight aight

@golden scaffold

[golden scaffold]

ideally we want flasher albacore and archerfish

albacore u can get in merit shop

but archerfish is gacha only

so can do flasher LdV/barraca and albacore instead I think

gimme a sec not sure about LdV vs barraca

I think LdV has been tested before and she is fine

but if u like barraca u can use her as well
iirc she was close to LdV level

so flasher albacore and barraca

homura good for bosses btw u can level her as well later
but not for ch15

subs are a pain to raise

use xp books and put them in dorm btw

and put them as secretary for affinity 50 > 90

when all 3 are 90 affinity use them in battles (prefereably in event stages) and get them to 100 affinity

[pale jolt]

i can have random secretaryss on whiel said ship is in secretary slot?

[golden scaffold]

yes

that should work afaik

[pale jolt]

also is this the order the ships sould be?

[golden scaffold]

guam and shimanto swap positions

leftmost is tank always

[pale jolt]

aight aight

[golden scaffold]

well good luck
when u are done with ch13 and have eldridge or laffey 2 prepared we can tackle 14 as well

altho for 15 I will try to do almost everything on that checklist

before u attempt it

[pale jolt]

aight aight

do i need subs for w13?

[golden scaffold]

no

should be easy

use circle formation if u see plane leak to backline

altho with this much AA it should not leak

[pale jolt]

never in my life iv used formations-

[golden scaffold]

at least make sure it is double line then

[pale jolt]

i keep forgetting they exist xD

[golden scaffold]

single line is a death sentence in harder maps

[pale jolt]

gotcha

well then ill post a screen shot of w13 wiped after i clear it

[golden scaffold]

good luck

[pale jolt]

well 13-1 is getting oblitarated so far xD

[elder rune]

w13 is new player territory don't be intimidated by it

the real game starts from 14-3

although we have someone who beat w15 in 4 months but that is an exception i guess

[pale jolt]

Well tbf i cant be called new when i joined since jan 2019-

[elder rune]

i personally postponed doing w13

until i wanted to challenge w15 that is when i had to do it

[pale jolt]

I postponed evrything for 3 years as i stopped playing then returned :,)

[elder rune]

are u rich on core data ?

[pale jolt]

only got this much

since i buy gear and ships

[elder rune]

u can buy a breguet and put it on mamagi

faster stronger in all aspects

[pale jolt]

instead of the helldiver?

[elder rune]

breguet is a tb so instead of the barracuda

helldiver is a db

[pale jolt]

hm okay okay

[elder rune]

the usual campaign loadout is
fighter then db then tb

for bossing it is
db tb tb

i m the n1 fan of this plane

[pale jolt]

dam xD

oo wait japanese version player?

[elder rune]

yeah i play on jp

nntktt does too

usually people who don't want to swap gear that much make a lot of wyverns but i opted for buy more breguet strat

3 wyverns are more than enough for this game

[pale jolt]

not me totaly planing on many wyverns xD

[elder rune]

while it is the most cracked plane in the game i can't see how much difference it would make for leveling in 12-4 against a breguet
maybe because i m still leveling strong ships

people who have 7+ wyverns are very old players

imo using the selectors for it after 3 is a backward progression since the new AA gun will have the priority after 3 wyverns

[pale jolt]

personaly i got 2 wyverns so far

[elder rune]

i made the 3rd when i wanted to do w15

basically overkill for anything else imo

[pale jolt]

who dosent love overkill for 12-4 farming xD

one of my exp faring for mob was low lvls and then boss fleet consisted of 4 125s

[elder rune]

can i ask since u have the yamato gun
where is musasi ?

[pale jolt]

no luck

litearly all my cubes

and poof no musashi :(

now im forced to wait for her perma add

its so painful not to have her

hopefully i will get implacable and bismark zwei on theyr rerun

[fast falcon]

implac rerun in a week or two

[pale jolt]

yup ik iv already checked on theyr chances of rerun cuz of the 2 year gap

[fast falcon]

[pale jolt]

welp finished it

@golden scaffold so now i gotta start setting stuff up for w14?

[golden scaffold]

subs, laffey2/eldridge retro is the most crucial
U could attempt it now tbh but it might be a bit painful

get your FdG fritz volga to 120 at least

[golden scaffold]

3 star also

[pale jolt]

ofc

i dislike leaving behind unfinished stages xD

[pale jolt]

sould i use books for that?

FdG is already 122, volga is now 116, and fritz is 107 :,)

[golden scaffold]

nah

farm

what is the rush

use books to level up new ships up to level 90 or so

so u can start farming with them in ch12

[pale jolt]

i got like 1337

but makes sense

[golden scaffold]

those 1337 will be spent real fast if u use them on level 100+ ships
and then what will u use to farm?

if a ship can farm a map no reason to book them for xp unless u are speedrunning

[pale jolt]

well im not in a hurry since either way im trying to colect all ships

got 72.1% so far

sould i just run 12-4 swap out fdg with fritz and let the mob fleet just kill mob ships?

[golden scaffold]

sure
but get FdG to 125

why take her out at 122

or do u mean put her in boss to get last levels there

u can do that as well

just swap ships and level them all

shouldnt be too hard

[pale jolt]

yeh thats what i meant xD

[golden scaffold]

[pale jolt]

(would be more benificial if i used royal nayv for my pr ship xD)

comperably the mob fleet would gain more from the exp then any of the boss fleet ones rn xD

[golden scaffold]

oh your unicorn was also not 125
definitely get her to 125 as well

she is crucial

[golden scaffold]

looks fine

[pale jolt]

im gone kms after clearing w15

[golden scaffold]

u can replace the level 125 ships in boss fleet

with other stuff that needs xp

[pale jolt]

gear-

[golden scaffold]

actually mob can also fight boss

for more xp

this mob is cracked

will walk over ch12

[pale jolt]

dont wanna yk make mood drop fast

[golden scaffold]

it shouldnt affect it much
if boss is figthing boss then replace the level 125 ships

[pale jolt]

also is one of the two ships said only required?

[golden scaffold]

kind of
they make it super easy
ch14 has submarines in mob fights
and u want a ship with good ASW
laffey and eldridge are the best for this
u could do a random good DD or DDG but since u want to do ch15 later anyway why not level them for this

[pale jolt]

Ig ill lmb laffey2

Since i dont have pvp points to buy eldrich

[golden scaffold]

just do pvp

it is not that hard to get some merits

[pale jolt]

lazy xD

sould i lvl more UR ships?

like hindy and brest

[golden scaffold]

brest would be good for 15
hinden not very much

but brest also wants dev30 kind of

if she is close to dev30 level her

[pale jolt]

well then no brest either xD

[golden scaffold]

anchorage should work well instead

tbh we could do guam tank boss
and laffey tank mob

but anchorage good to have at level 120 (or 125) anyway

[pale jolt]

i mean i can use her after this xD

NJ worth lvling rn?

[golden scaffold]

u want 2 UR BB for ch15

u have FdG for ch14 but she is not great in ch15
so I would prefer NJ in 15 tbh

soyuz is the other one

but she is 125 already

[pale jolt]

now i gotta gear laffey anco and nj

[pale jolt]

@golden scaffold so any of the ships from the current rerun good for w14 or w15?

[golden scaffold]

implacable good for ch15 main fleet and support fleet
scylla good for ch14 iirc

[pale jolt]

okay atleast 1 of the ships i got xD

i doubt im gone get the UR since the reruns too soon i have no cubes bascialy

[golden scaffold]

tbh your current fleet that I recommended is best

I wouldnt change it

[pale jolt]

okay okay

[pale jolt]

lets gooo :D

[pale jolt]

got brest dev30 now so i can use her for w15?

[fast falcon]

Sure, can go ahead

[pale jolt]

almost completed my 1st fleets lvling then gotta swap to the 2nd one to lvl that to 120 minimum

[pale jolt]

been busy and slowly been grinding the game so i havent finished leveling yet :,)

[fast falcon]

Take your time

[pale jolt]

alr im done finaly xD

@golden scaffold ya got time?

[golden scaffold]

in 30 mins

[pale jolt]

aight aight

[golden scaffold]

u can ask in #gameplay-help channel for someone to look at your thread if u want

just link the thread

[pale jolt]

i can wait xD

[elder rune]

u can also start preparing what u want help with
30 min have passed

[pale jolt]

more less what i need is the gear for w14

since idk if i have to change stuff or keep the same gear for it like w13

[golden scaffold]

oh damn i forgot sry

should have pinged me

can u show your 2 fleets?

@pale jolt

ping me when u are ready
and show your current fleets and gear

[pale jolt]

Doing smth inportant rn so give me 20ish mins

[golden scaffold]

any other UR BB?

[pale jolt]

i mean lion, Ulrich, raffaello, alsace, vanguard but all except lion arent max lb

and lions lvl 100

[golden scaffold]

soyuz is good

we will use her and FdG
NJ aux weak for this chapter iirc

[pale jolt]

explanation for missing gear rn is i borrowed it for opsi 😭

also heres the thing ya gave me for chap 13

[golden scaffold]

make these changes to mob

ignore the +13 enhance btw

i just messed up the levels
All +10 is fine

[elder rune]

what u have shouldn't have any issue to do w14
what about the subs ?

[golden scaffold]

oh yeah better use subs as well
thanks abdou i forgot about em

[pale jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-gif-3425669563334334864

me forgeting em as well-

[golden scaffold]

show what u have

[pale jolt]

yk ill just wing it xD

[golden scaffold]

subs I mean

[pale jolt]

bleh

[elder rune]

looks like

[golden scaffold]

Gib update

Or are they the same level

[elder rune]

most likely no update

use shimanto instead of helena in the boss fleet imo and try without subs

[pale jolt]

pretty sure same lvl xD

[pale jolt]

uh what is that last thing for unicorn-

[elder rune]

guam event asw plane

[golden scaffold]

if u dont have let me know

we can craft sth better

[pale jolt]

im trying to check but rn my emulator had a network issue xD

[golden scaffold]

no rush

u can craft this if u dont have the guam plane
RIP electronics

it is in royal navy section in gear lab

[pale jolt]

i dont have it fk

howd i miss the plane

[elder rune]

how did u get laff and not the plane

[pale jolt]

i usualy buy the gear and ships and thats it

[golden scaffold]

it is an aux gear

not a plane

[elder rune]

i missed flasher

[golden scaffold]

so check if u can equip it on uni aux slot not her planes

maybe u have it and u missed it cuz u were looking at planes

[pale jolt]

yeah no i dont have it-

i checked multiple times now-

[golden scaffold]

no worries

u checked AUX gear right?

[pale jolt]

well ig i have alot of eletronics

[pale jolt]

yeh

[golden scaffold]

sure that is a lot

[pale jolt]

yeh "alot" for now lol

[golden scaffold]

well craft it unless u want to go with poverty option for now

if u need the electronics for sth else

[pale jolt]

uh slight issue tho i need 9 of that but i have 7-

[golden scaffold]

no it needs the plane ones

not ordnance

if u cant craft it it is okay we will use poverty option

let me know

[pale jolt]

nvm im acustic

[golden scaffold]

u have this right?

this is more important

[pale jolt]

yuh

[golden scaffold]

ok when mob is done let me know

[pale jolt]

lucky me

[golden scaffold]

make them both +10

the gears

[pale jolt]

will do

gone have to start diggin in my gold reservs for it tho xD

[golden scaffold]

when mob is done we can work on boss and subs

i mean u can just wait and farm some gold

[pale jolt]

nah its fine xD

[golden scaffold]

u dont have to do ch14 today

[elder rune]

don't use the reserve to do a permanent content

[pale jolt]

i mean i have the oil to farm as much of events i want

plus most of the time coins dont really have other use besides perma stuff

and event building

but i can farm the coins easily

[golden scaffold]

some reserve coin is nice to have for when u need some urgent gold and cant farm
dont use all reserve

[pale jolt]

got 100k i was gone use like 10-12k

[golden scaffold]

u can equip them for now and just upgrade them later

[golden scaffold]

up to you

[pale jolt]

this would be a dumb choice lol

[golden scaffold]

u will need it in ch15 too

[pale jolt]

lucky i have this

[golden scaffold]

oh

i see what u mean

[pale jolt]

price diffrance xD

[golden scaffold]

yeah

[elder rune]

if he is going to do it before guam's rerun

[pale jolt]

alr got mob set up

also faerlein note that this is all the UR gear i have

[golden scaffold]

do sth like this for boss

again DONT ENHANCE STUFF TO +13

I need to fix my fleet builder

[pale jolt]

ik xD

after 10 its only opsi buffs

and right away i can say unzens UR gun is not smth i have lol

[golden scaffold]

no there is a huge 18% damage bonus to planes and guns as well
but gold plates are super rare

so use them carefully

and usually no need for +13 gear for campaign

[golden scaffold]

use her own gun it is fine

[elder rune]

except when something is called georgia gun

not sure about this lion era though

[golden scaffold]

both my georgia guns are still +10

@pale jolt let me know when boss is ready
we will do subs next

[pale jolt]

didnt realise i had some of that bp's

[golden scaffold]

good thing u checked

this is better for unzen

[pale jolt]

i bought all 50 lol

[golden scaffold]

but it is expensive

craft it later

[pale jolt]

i already crafted it lol

[golden scaffold]

+10 still expensive

but no worries

so boss done?

make sure u put the amagi and fritz planes like I did

we want them to "stagger"

[pale jolt]

also gone have to get another tenryu

or whats it called

[golden scaffold]

which means not fire together

give volga tenrai to fritz it is okay

and give volga a helldiver

[pale jolt]

i mean id be fine to get my hands on another

[golden scaffold]

imo not worth

[pale jolt]

alr

[golden scaffold]

save that UR ordnance

[pale jolt]

i mean idk what els to do with the UR ordanance

[golden scaffold]

future updates

who knows what they will cook

but if u want u can craft a tenrai it is fine
usually u want to have 2

but personally I wouldnt

[pale jolt]

i mean i want minimum 2 of each ur gear xD

so if i need to use 2 of em i have 2 xD

[pale jolt]

this right?

gearing is done just gotta get em to lvl 10 and is augment important?

[golden scaffold]

vanguard augment is good

they can do slash attack which protects them from dmg sometimes

altho u probably dont need it

can u check your depot for this?
can u craft any?

for sub gear I mean

or do u have any sub gear at all?

what do they have rn?

[pale jolt]

uh idk genualy xD

[golden scaffold]

u almost have as many as me

[pale jolt]

i forgor about em alot

[pale jolt]

yup xD

[golden scaffold]

show your subs best gear

do they have any gold torps?

[pale jolt]

are u sure u wanna see my subs-

[golden scaffold]

u will see how useful subs are in ch14

[pale jolt]

uhm anyway-

(i dont have said 3rd sub)

[golden scaffold]

we want this

u craft the red torpedo in gear lab
Royal navy
called "bidder"

the 2 aux gear u can get in core shop

[pale jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-anime-face-surprised-anime-expression-huh-what-nani-gif-17913871

i can only do 4 no more no less

[golden scaffold]

better than nothing

[pale jolt]

thats a lie i forgor about the amount of thingys i have to get more

[golden scaffold]

just try and get this in 2-3 days from now

[pale jolt]

cuz i was looking at this only

[golden scaffold]

if coin is the issue

idk about the core data stuff tho

[pale jolt]

yeh i probs gotta set up a fleet for PR farming

[golden scaffold]

u can only buy 1 per month

[pale jolt]

might have usm

sum*

[golden scaffold]

put the subs in dorm at least

and uncap them

sub raising is annoying
put them in dorm then we will finish their level to 120 with xp books

[pale jolt]

oh cool

homura said im ready

lol

i forgor she had gear lol

any alters cuz i could only 2 subs with the gear needed

[golden scaffold]

check everyone

dont craft more stuff than u need

u can go to depot
turn on equiped
and filter for sub torps

[pale jolt]

Im pretty sure i dont have more

Yeh no reds

So i can craft the 4 missing

But the monthlys need an alter

@golden scaffold

i only need 2 alters for it

as i have enough of them to give 2 ships

[golden scaffold]

sth like this

higher better

[pale jolt]

i can give leonardo of flasher a set of the molhtly stuff too

can i use homuras own augment instead of dagger?

[golden scaffold]

in campaign u want generic augment

[elder rune]

u don't need more than 1 drake gun so it is a waste to craft another one

[golden scaffold]

her unique augment makes her surface faster which we dont want in campaign

[golden scaffold]

give flasher your best gear
u can give homura the worst gear

[pale jolt]

so swap flasher and homrua?

[elder rune]

do u have sub aux ?

[golden scaffold]

and when u do the map btw for ch14 just general advice:

1- go to lighthouse immediately
2- DONT pick up flares
3- use submarines on out of ammo nodes and boss (and strong mobs like 3 triangle mobs)

[golden scaffold]

yes

[golden scaffold]

he has enough for 2 I think

so final one needs to wait for 1 more month

[pale jolt]

yup :,)

[golden scaffold]

well this is it for ch14

should be enough

[elder rune]

enough to level the ships i guess

[golden scaffold]

good luck

[pale jolt]

nah id adapt like this xd

[golden scaffold]

u can use books on your submarines btw
if u have spare xp books
get them to ~120

no need for 125

[elder rune]

waste of books imo

[pale jolt]

books be booking

[elder rune]

i did it from 115 to 120 for 101 and 96 then 37 was from 120 to 125 with books

because she kept getting mvp

[pale jolt]

my lowest lvl of ships are 50 not including lil prinz eugen as she was only recently gotten and i forgor to give her 1 book to get her to be abel to enter coms

and most of my ships are slowly getting sent to lvl 100 with dorm

[golden scaffold]

very nice

ch15 soon

[pale jolt]

58 of my ships are lvl 100

[elder rune]

soon tm

[pale jolt]

not including anyone higher

and also subs are like hell to lvl so i kinda dont give a f when it comes to booking the subs

also the top subs also work for opsi?

[elder rune]

i'd rather book the meta ships from 1 to 120
why is it hell to level the subs while they just need to be in the map

[pale jolt]

more or less cuz max is 3 per run xD

compared to when u have 6 ships being lvled xD

[elder rune]

3 subs 3 main 3 vanguards

[golden scaffold]

because u basically lose oil for nothing

u dont get more gold

6 ships gives u max oil cap gold already
add 3 more per sortie
oil cost goes up
gold reward doesnt go up

[elder rune]

yeah but practically it isn't hard to level them compared to the meta ones

[pale jolt]

[golden scaffold]

it is not hard
just inefficient
also u would need 3 extra dorm slots for morale

[golden scaffold]

yeah those 3 will be fine for u

if u want sth like 10% better replace LDV with albacore

but u rly shouldnt

it is not needed

they should work even in opsi

for opsi homura wants her own augment

[pale jolt]

also since it seems like i need even more money then i tought i kinda have to set up a temp fleet :`)

for money and pr grind

[golden scaffold]

yeah just save these as reference for later

u shouldnt farm with maxed fleets anyway

[pale jolt]

sould these work since i need royal navy vanguard exp

idk what els to put as the back line xD

[golden scaffold]

yes
make plymouth tank

dont use level 125 ships to farm

use ships that are <level 120

[pale jolt]

Ig lion gets exp too then

[golden scaffold]

if u dont know who to raise u can check this website https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker?type=7&stats=rld

set CV and BB
and tick RLD + ACC
then after that FP and AVI

raise those ships

[pale jolt]

I more or less raise ships who can be used in anything i need

[golden scaffold]

that is fine

but if u dont know who to raise

raise these "tech" ships

[pale jolt]

Probs sould except that lion gets brough cuz its lion

And she needs to hit 125 too

[golden scaffold]

sure yeah lion is good to raise

[pale jolt]

Also quick question whats the highest hard mode rn?

[golden scaffold]

13-4

[pale jolt]

hm alr then ill start actualy clearing all hard modes to 3 stars slowly and surely till i reach w13 hard mode

[elder rune]

if u can do w13 do it 3☆ is only for new players

[pale jolt]

wdym

[elder rune]

if u can do w13 there is no need to go back and 3☆ the old stages

[pale jolt]

i mean i wanna make it all 3 stared cuz i like knowing i cleared all of em 3 started xD

[golden scaffold]

some also give cogs

[pale jolt]

gone suffer trying to insert all the data :,)

[golden scaffold]

it is just once

and if u are working on CV no need to worry about other hulls yet

[pale jolt]

kinda helps me find the ships i had but deleted tho xD

[golden scaffold]

do it slowly over time

[pale jolt]

nah ima do this rn and then head to bed probs

[pale jolt]

doing this makes me wanna go slam against a wall

[golden scaffold]

Honestly dont enter the data for all of them

Just CV and BB
And focus on rld for now

Just tick rld

[pale jolt]

a bit too late im litearly done with all other factions besides royal navy, eagel union and sakura empire lol

[golden scaffold]

Then u can work on acc later

Damn respect the effort

Make sure you back up the data

[pale jolt]

i mean it gives me access to the info of ships im missing xD

will do

[golden scaffold]

There is an export option

[pale jolt]

either way rn im only just pressing the buttons not putting the full lvls

[golden scaffold]

Dont touch the levels no need

Just when u finish a ship to level 120 tick the 120 option so u know

U can skip the mlb part as well

[pale jolt]

yuh thats what i do

i like this website more then the other one

[golden scaffold]

Well done

Remember to sleep

[pale jolt]

will do if i decided to sleep lol

[golden scaffold]

Yes it is made by our very own lars

[pale jolt]

as its already 00:21

probs gone run a full 24hr'er to fix it :p

[golden scaffold]

[pale jolt]

btw @golden scaffold what formation do i use in w14-3?

[golden scaffold]

uh... double line

if that is what u are asking

@pale jolt

[pale jolt]

Alr alr thank you

[pale jolt]

@golden scaffold

got her from the exact last run to finish it

[golden scaffold]

that is so lucky wow
it took me 100+ runs

[pale jolt]

daum rip xD

well now what is left is w15...

[golden scaffold]

i forgot what your fleets are

but tell me if u want to tackle 15

[pale jolt]

idk if im using the same ships or other ships for it

yoinked ur screen shots xD

[golden scaffold]

how many UR BB u had?

we need to replace FdG
She lacks focused dmg for ch15 elites

[pale jolt]

i have evryone except musashi and zwei

(no screen shot rn im in a meta fight xD)

great bugged out again :,)

[golden scaffold]

i see

are they all MLB as well?

and 125?

[pale jolt]

nuh uh xD

most arent even MLB due to bulin shortages

let me load back into the game rq

since it bugged out and it takes a little bit to open so i can send u a screen shot

[golden scaffold]

show a screenshot then pls
all the UR BBs

no problem take your time

[golden scaffold]

ok and i need to see your carriers
do you have illustrious? indomitable? nakhimov dev30? independence? and chen hai or hwah jah retrofit?

they also want level 120

we need 3 of those

[pale jolt]

nakhimov no where near dev 30

litearly the only one i have

theyr the only ones im missing from that faction as well lol

[golden scaffold]

tell me who u have on this list

[pale jolt]

cant even buy independence no core data-

[golden scaffold]

langley? albion? centaur?

[pale jolt]

nuh uh

[golden scaffold]

lusty muse? lil lusty?

[pale jolt]

fritz

[golden scaffold]

i think we need fritz for the main fleet

well langley is easy to get and raise

[pale jolt]

impl

[golden scaffold]

is she mlb?

[pale jolt]

yuh made extra sure to make her mlb cuz i was told to xD

[golden scaffold]

ok then we will use illustrious implacable + 1

if u cant get anyone higher get langley and retrofit her

all these carriers need level 120

so start raising them
but lion has highest priority

lion and implacable

lets see vanguard
did u have laffey 2, z52, shimanto, guam san diego all at full power?

so level 125? MLB? and retrofit done? and fs5 for shimanto?

[pale jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-gif-18370552922777914358

whats fs5?

oh fate sim

yuhuh shes fs5

laffey is sitting still at lvl 120, z52 is at 122, guam 124, shimanto 122

[golden scaffold]

nice

get them all to 125 if u have spare cog arrays

for langley and illustrious u dont need to level their skills

[pale jolt]

this sould be fine either way right?

[golden scaffold]

if u dont want to raise langley get indep and raise her instead

[golden scaffold]

yeah that is more than enough

dont forget to save 225 for lion as well

so lion and laffey need it

that is only 450

[pale jolt]

nah lion only

[golden scaffold]

ideally subs also at 120

and 100 affinity if u can

[golden scaffold]

put them in secretary till 90 affinity

very nice

homura drops her augment for campaign

[pale jolt]

imposible cuz i dont want flasher apearing in the guild with my name above it

[golden scaffold]

anyway we can worry about details later
for now try and prepare them all

[pale jolt]

i mean by prepear hope u include zweis rerun :)

[golden scaffold]

well we dont need her

[pale jolt]

i will get her....

[golden scaffold]

but u can raise her on the side that is fine

when u get her

[pale jolt]

fuck 😭

hope i can use her instantly but nope

[golden scaffold]

dont forget ryze collab rerun

[pale jolt]

ryze?

[golden scaffold]

u can use her tbh

0h ryza sry

atelier series

[pale jolt]

still confused

i personaly dont really invest into collab events-

[golden scaffold]

this event https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/The_Alchemist_and_the_Archipelago_of_Secrets

[golden scaffold]

oh i see fair enough

anyway read back in the chat and raise the ships I mentioned u will need them for ch15

but u have more than enough cracked ships to make it easy

[pale jolt]

hope i can just not take sandy

[golden scaffold]

well......
she is like one of the best ships for ch15

no reason not to take her

[pale jolt]

guam

[golden scaffold]

trust me u will need both

ch15 plane spam is sth else

[pale jolt]

trust me god will bless me xD

[golden scaffold]

did u have D7P?

the dutch ship?

[pale jolt]

what le hell is d7p?

this?

yeh ships that actualy count towrads % so yuh

[golden scaffold]

what about eldridge?

[pale jolt]

nuh uh

[golden scaffold]

[pale jolt]

forgor to do pvp

[golden scaffold]

do u have her retrofit item?

[pale jolt]

probs

[golden scaffold]

i would raise her
she might also be needed for kawakaze META fight

[golden scaffold]

well
I recommend u work on her

[pale jolt]

ay hit me up if theres a one shot for the meta xD

[golden scaffold]

but i will leave it up to you

work on eldridge and finish your lion 125

[pale jolt]

do i really have to use sandy :,)

[golden scaffold]

we will see

[pale jolt]

also whats D7P for tho?

[golden scaffold]

she has amazing AA

and if u dont want to use sandy she might be the next best thing

[pale jolt]

Hm alr

[fast falcon]

lead secretary affinity gain stop at 90, so u need to do runs with flasher OR use the onsens on certain events like this event. That should be giving ur botes affinity gain past 90 pts

In fact thats how people get their lvl 1 botes to 100 affinity, enough for oathing

[pale jolt]

dam alr alr

[pale jolt]

dang been a few months since i did take a bit of an haiatus cuz burnt out but iv returned and back to work i get to getting closer to clearing w15

[fast falcon]

its okay

take your time

[pale jolt]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home
is that website good enough to just quick gear ships to farm 12-4?

its the azur lane's en community tier list

[fast falcon]

yea lol

you can pretty throw a mix of lvl 90+ botes there with appropriate gear and support (cus sometimes they are going to fumble on the last mob node)

[pale jolt]

alr alr

[pale jolt]

@golden scaffold so is the new UR sub gone be the better sub for w15?

[golden scaffold]

I recommend u watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MhvKc4iZsU&t=5s
TLDR she is best sub for every scenario

[pale jolt]

so who shall i replace in the sub team for I-404?

thats the current sub fleet

[golden scaffold]

for campaign replace homura
for bosses u can replace LdV

also the vid explains this
watch it
also make sure u dont put i-404 in top slot

put her in bottom and flasher flag

[pale jolt]

dam i somehow missed it in the vid lol

well i pulled archer fish on the event banner

(had to hit pitty for hakuhou )

[golden scaffold]

happens
archer is probably slightly better than LdV with flasher and i404

but raising subs is pain

u can stick with LdV

[pale jolt]

eh either way id have to lvl the subs eventualy since im trying to get evry ship 125 at one point

[pale jolt]

iv swaped gear so much and forgetting to save certin presets on ships

[pale jolt]

welp time to stop beating around the bush and getting to work on w15

[golden scaffold]

read this and tell me how much u can do
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

read it well

[pale jolt]

text to speech here i come to use it so i dont have to bother with reading or im gone get distracted xD

[golden scaffold]

i am going to sleep soon
so if u have questions ask in gph for them to check this thread
if u can wait I dont mind helping tomorrow

[pale jolt]

i can wait dw

[pale jolt]

tho i dont understand what u want me to tell after i finish "reading" this xD

[golden scaffold]

use this tool and build me the best fleets u have
following that guide https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

put your gear not the best gear

then we can improve from there

[pale jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/gon-hx-h-gon-thinking-gif-19587492

how come the link u give me works but when i tryed using the website it was missing a shit ton of ships 😭

[golden scaffold]

sometimes it updates and u need to use a new link or sth idk

[pale jolt]

also im so gone get judge cuz i cant build fleets for shi xD

[golden scaffold]

it is ok

it just helps us upgrade it easier

and show your dock after u make the fleets

i gtg now tty tomorrow

[pale jolt]

alr alr

enjoy ur rest

[pale jolt]

@golden scaffold atempted it :,)

used what i have mostly

had to replace aquila with volga cuz i dont aperantly have aquila

[golden scaffold]

Can u ask in gph chat for someone to have a look
I cant help atm

Good effort tho well done

[pale jolt]

i can wait dw xD

ima lvl zwei whiel i wait xD

since evryone except zwei is 120+

[golden scaffold]

Post your ships sort by level
And exclude elite and below

Just so when I am back it is ready

We need 3 CV for supp fleet and 3 subs ideally as well

[pale jolt]

subs

[golden scaffold]

@cobalt fox @fair raft
If u guys have some time
I can help later if not

I gtg now

[pale jolt]

aighty bye bye

[pale jolt]

also heres the cv supp as thats the best one i can make with the cvs i have

[fast falcon]

hmmm
personally i'd prefer a single TB slot on Fritz Rumey for the extra waveclear
and other than that, the clear improvements are on the AA guns for the frontliners.

[pale jolt]

What do u mean with the last part?

[fast falcon]

UR AA guns like the 76mm RF AA or the 57mm french UR AA

though for real i'd just rec the former because it is true BiS. Literally for everyone

even if it cost more gold electronics; worth the costs

[pale jolt]

Issue is i have no UR AAs

[fast falcon]

here was one screenshot i did a while back to help out someone else for support fleet CV gearing. All the options on the left fleet are pretty good; with the Flapjack & FW fighter being the best. For cheapskates you can craft the purple FW instead (2nd fighter slot on Nakhimov) and still do well

On the right is a sample support CV fleet. More AVI = better because it directly contributes to fighter AA performance. You can apply the same principles to your own support fleet.

[fast falcon]

well then it is still doable i think; just need to be mindful of the shit ton of planes. Choose your nodes carefully

[pale jolt]

my nakhimov is not dev 30 so cant use her

and i dont have hwah jah

[fast falcon]

it is a sample fleet

pick up the fighters featured and place it on your support fleet CVs

[pale jolt]

im just saying so it dosent get questioned why i dont use em xD

[fast falcon]

[pale jolt]

also quick question for what TB stands for?

[fast falcon]

torpedo bombers

[pale jolt]

would that work for fritz?

[pale jolt]

i can get 4 for of those planes on the right side

[cobalt fox]

i recommend lvling sandy or d7p ( if u dont wanna retro sandy )

[pale jolt]

is lion like one of the best for w15?

[cobalt fox]

musashi and raffaelo are the best but lion is great too

[pale jolt]

what about zwei?

[cobalt fox]

well ur zwei isnt even mlb but worse than lion unless ure aiming for 3* lethal clear in which case she brings certificate for ooa bonus then shes better

[pale jolt]

i mlbed her

just gotta lvl her now

[cobalt fox]

well the latter part of what i said still applies

[pale jolt]

yeh i plan to letahl 3*

[cobalt fox]

i mean thats rly hard but good luck

u can use bz then with certificate over lion

[pale jolt]

fina ball it xD

[cobalt fox]

ull rly want sandy then

so lvl her up

[pale jolt]

i dont wanna wait weeks just get her skills up lmao

[cobalt fox]

just use rainbow books 😭

[pale jolt]

i have none left lol

i used mostly evrything on other URs

[cobalt fox]

if u dont use sandy or d7p and u wanna lethal 3* then u have to shove shimanto to mob aswell

because mobbing fleet requirements in terms of strength skyrocket

and instead of shimanto on boss u can use ply or unzen

and pray

[pale jolt]

i mean shimanto is already on mob

and unzen is already on boss

lmao

[cobalt fox]

i mean in the fleets i gave u

[pale jolt]

alr welp leme see if my jeanne has max skills

welp seems like shes already max lol

[cobalt fox]

[pale jolt]

now time to gear the fleets in game

[fast falcon]

take ur time

you don't have to clear it now

consolidate what you can get

[golden scaffold]

hey hope neko and beth helped u get everything ready
sry was busy today

[pale jolt]

shi work got me busy

[pale jolt]

the more i think about this the more i realise that i need to use her to just gurantee 3* lethal

[cobalt fox]

the stronger options u use the easier it gets

[pale jolt]

sould i fully use this fleet? except lion swaped with zwei

well tbf my entire fleet already looks like that lmao

[cobalt fox]

i mean yea i still recommend it

[pale jolt]

can i sub out ilustrios with shinano?

[cobalt fox]

in the support fleet ? no shinano is terrible there

[pale jolt]

guh alr

is there another AA i can put on sand?

[pale jolt]

also i need to sub out these 2 planes since i dont have enough of em is there anything els that works

[cobalt fox]

by chapter 15 having 2 sextuple bofors in ur depot is not a tall order
you can put twin 113( roomba on her ) if u dont have any ig
do u also have 0 rainbow aas ?

[pale jolt]

yeah no rainbow aa's

its more like i havent farmed enough of opsi to have two of those

used most of my mats on other stuff

example 4/6 of those proto planes

[cobalt fox]

i mean those are dirt cheap to make but flap/hell cat or the purples like skyrocket and Fw 190 A-5

[pale jolt]

i just need to sub out 2 for retro essex since im so broke on opsi mats

[pale jolt]

do i use 2 flaps/hell cats?

[cobalt fox]

sure
but prioritize flaps for ur surface fleet

[pale jolt]

alr gotcha

[pale jolt]

well zam theres my way to get ships skills done for w15
with the skill insta completeing

[fast falcon]

me too, just finished kurumi blue skill the other day, just have to speedrun her levels

[pale jolt]

3 ships to get to lvl 120+ and i can finaly commit w15 oblitiration

[golden scaffold]

good luck

[pale jolt]

@cobalt fox hey question what formations do i use for w15?

[cobalt fox]

circle when fighting super cv nodes or double line otherwise
circle means better aa so less dmg for ur backline
double formation means vg is tankier
pick as needed

[pale jolt]

aight gotcha

[cobalt fox]

[pale jolt]

plane v plane aah fights rn

[pale jolt]

uh oh im 5 battles in and 2 ships are nearly dead

[golden scaffold]

Going low on hp is fine
Just as long as they dont die
Try and fight weaker enemies

Is there a reason u went zwei instead of raffa/musashi/lion?

[pale jolt]

cuz it zwei

[golden scaffold]

Also dont forget to summon subs to help with out of ammo fights and bosses and big carriers

[pale jolt]

anyway witch one falls under weaker then?

[golden scaffold]

Recon (small one)

BB fleets are suicide
Especially if 3 triangle

[pale jolt]

theres that

[golden scaffold]

I think even that might be better than the 2 triangle BB

As long as u are not leaking enemy submarines

And u shouldnt with that vanguard

[pale jolt]

well i need to wipe it to get the star for it

[golden scaffold]

Oh u are three starring

Then try and heal on the weaker fleet then fight the strong one

[pale jolt]

i three stared the previous 2 stages

[golden scaffold]

Just make sure u fight strong ones when u have ammo

[pale jolt]

15-1 and 15-2 just full wipes

started today on 15-3 cuz i was busy yesterday

gone try to do bolth 3 and 4 today

[golden scaffold]

U should he fine if the backline can heal a bit on the weak enemies

[pale jolt]

they died

[golden scaffold]

Can u post gear just so we make sure we dont have big red flags?

[pale jolt]

[golden scaffold]

Also do u know what the issue is?
Planes or submarines?
Or did BB shell rng kill your backline

If u are not sure record a run
Lets have a look

[pale jolt]

didnt notice it as i was typing here

[golden scaffold]

Smh

[golden scaffold]

If u can record it will help you review

Oh boy
Gear does not look promising

I am on phone
I shall ask the avengers for help

@cobalt fox
We need the cavalry neko

Post the rest

Def we can improve by a lot

[pale jolt]

i mean i had to take a little bit of swaping cuz i dont have exactly evrything the stuff yall posted

[golden scaffold]

Yeah but I am sure we can do better
Dw it is not your fault

Just post mob gear so we can see what we can improve

[cobalt fox]

i posted fleet and gear here

[golden scaffold]

Umi is here

[fair raft]

https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/

[golden scaffold]

Ok stuff that NEEDs to change is
Sandy AA
Zwei needs radar and change her gun

Laffey better AA if have

[fair raft]

ASW plane on Unicorn in place of a catapult

[golden scaffold]

Avengers assembled

[golden scaffold]

Smh lazy cat

[pale jolt]

[cobalt fox]

wdym lazy

[golden scaffold]

Dw u will have the resources for this

I am sure

[cobalt fox]

putting the gear in fleet tool is the opposite of lazy

[golden scaffold]

Nothing just teasing

[pale jolt]

if its smth gearlab releated then no....

[cobalt fox]

feel free to make better fleets

[golden scaffold]

I made neko angry

[pale jolt]

[golden scaffold]

Ok can u look at the neko link and tell me what u dont have or cant craft?

Ch15 is very delicate
Some gear is not negotiable
Especially if u want to 3 star lethal

[pale jolt]

basicaly evrything i havent touched opsi for months-

i cant play azur lane and other games at the same time so i kept forgetting :,)

and now mobile is out of the question as it dosent have enoguh storage

[golden scaffold]

Hmmmmmmmm I see no worries
Well if u can wait I can help when I get home

I just dont like screenshotting a lot on phone sry

[pale jolt]

all good

i have time

[golden scaffold]

But try and follow it as much as u can
Or just clear without 3 starring
Cause u have some major gear issues

Tty a bit later when am home

[pale jolt]

i mean i did follow as much as i can :,)

[golden scaffold]

I see I see

Then just wait all good

[pale jolt]

had to find substitudes cuz non of sum gears

[golden scaffold]

Yeah but we can have better substitutes I think
I will let u know dw
Farm some coins in the mean time if u have oil
Use your HELP tickets

[pale jolt]

help tickets?

i think im fine for now-

[fair raft]

I mean

I would hope you have fire control radars

[pale jolt]

i do have sum

[golden scaffold]

@pale jolt let me know if u are still here
sry was busy

[pale jolt]

all good

but yeh im still here

[golden scaffold]

can you make any of these for zwei? Lets fix her first

[pale jolt]

gimi a moment getting al open on my emulator it takes a little bit since not the best pc ✌️

is it bad that i use zwei for w15?

[golden scaffold]

not really
for 3 star lethal she is actually pretty good because of this item

try it and let me know how it works
u can get it in core shop I think

[fair raft]

Don't think they'll quite manage a lethal 3 star

Not that there's much point to it anyway

[pale jolt]

i can comit this

[golden scaffold]

i mean it is miles better than what u have so why not try it

[pale jolt]

with out changing other ships gear?

[fair raft]

Sigh

And as I said ASW plane in Unicorn

[golden scaffold]

it is ok cheeky I got this

can u make this plane in gear lab?

if not just use this plane
u should have it from guam event

put it on unicorn

[pale jolt]

already got that

[golden scaffold]

instead of 1 catapult
the rest of the gear is fine

ok use it on uni

[fair raft]

It is not

[pale jolt]

[fair raft]

Shimanto gun and Hazemayor on Sandy

Sandy also isn't 125

[pale jolt]

dose she have to be lvl 125?

[golden scaffold]

it is better that way

i think vanguard like this is better

can u make it like this

cheeky is sandy + laffey gun correct?
i always forget what sandy runs

ignore the +6 on the gear
they should all be +10 minimum

u dont have any UR aa correct?
and cant craft in gear lab?

[pale jolt]

yeah

[pale jolt]

alr got em geared with that

[golden scaffold]

are u sure?
the exact gear in the exact spot matters so double check pls