#brawler help :murmlove:
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oh ok
if possible +10 your corsair fighters too
no plates?
was laffey level higher than portland when he told you that
that's the only situation where that is the correct placement
ill go have a talk with faer 
if equal lvl, portland tank
if you got coin left, awaken your ships lol
level play a huge advantage
awaken everyone?
backline firrst
also that starter fleet is like, infinitely better than what i rolled with as a newb
ye having good BB is already way better than what we had lol
yeah ppl in this thread helped me
become the ultimate starter dream or something like that
besides the part i dont have independence
which is my only mistake
im a new player ๐ค
wait fr?
im newer
im newer than most gph helpers*
what level are you guys
mori is like 147 bruh

if they aren't dying, leave them be
ended up like this
good enough, can go try it
awakening can drain your coin very fast
so be aware lol
especially on gold or ur ships
yeah i at 2k rn
atleast i got oil
also am i doing something stupid
theres no oil cpa
its costing 70 oil to sortie on 10 - 1
:sob
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needs to clear before oil cap kicks in
oh its after i clear it
fuck oil mail
just use them, but keep them above a certain amount
i thought you dont whale
i dont lol
cap
im f2p
lvl 150 moment
also mori was one of those people
who grinded hvar hellcats during original run
dont you get like 400 cubes per month
or something like that
which is enough to get event ur
nah ~200 average
like just actively playing
like doing every dailies everyday
grinding the game, cuz u spawn cube commissions
yea that's normal
same
but average players don't do that
oh
im not addicted
theres no point in playin a gacha if ur not playing it daily tbh
but yeah if you do dailies everyday, 168 cubes are guaranteed a month
the extras come from commissions
#trophy-room message
mori is not those who know
oooh comissions
wtf is that
how do you get 500k coins
thought merchant couldnt go over the cap
it's the hvar
the hornets are the byproduct of grinding
the real fruit was the hvar hellcats
anyway gotta sleep, bye. gl with 10-1

imo it is better to do 4 4 9
yooo abdou
gph pin
bulliin skin ๐ฅ
uuh
hardstuck 11 - 3
11 - 3 boss is weird, it just kills everyone
alright
sure if you got the resources to
this is the 2nd team faerlin built
over a month ago
hood implacable peter strasser cleveland, z23, z1
i got beetter stuff now
wait
replace peter for sratoga retrofit right?
yes saratoga would be stronger
actually i think san diego might be better
is saint louis a frontline?
you got a lot of gold bulin too
i can get her rn
also i built that team so that u can farm agir with it kinda
probably
did u start agir?
dont farm d4 lol
can u start agir soon?
Ideally we dont want to max the z ships before u finish her
unless you're still getting ships
yeah i still dont have them ships
ok continue d4 then lolol
wait i dont get it
i dont wanna max the z ships before starting agir
by starting you mean getting the 700 points
you dont wanna level the Z ships to 120 before your Agir EXP grind
better efficiency
two birds one stone kinda thing
can you even unlock fdg
fdg?
PR2 UR
you probably need to unlock more IB ships like Roon FDG AVP before you get enough for Agir
maybe even mainz ~_~
honestly he has a few KMS ships like strasser
shouldnt be hard to get to 630 or 700
but yeah FdG also good to work on
i got deutchland also
ideally u do agir > FdG or FdG > agir
FdG should finish faster cuz main xp grind is easy
how many IB tech you got currently
136
yes
that is not bad
it has oil cap
did u manage to get the ships that drop there?
time to use books on them and MLB them
for points
hold on hold on
i dont see gnei or scharn lol

and forget about fleet 2?
bulins go into strasser and maybe san diego
ignore eugen for now
so what my fleet 2 will be
what is current fleet 1 and fleet2?
also show dock sorted by level
whats cooking
sandy with aug is still good even w/o retro
contine D4 in divergent chessboard till u get the ships mori mentioned
fleet 2 will be hood saratoga strasser sandy z23 z1
sandy wants augment when u have enough gold
dont retro z23 no need
or z1 tbh
u should keep portland tank and put z1 and z23 in fleet 1 so they get levels
stop farming with fleet 1
so like this
strasser replaces implacable
use xp books to boost everyone to level 30 then 70
read this
maybe it is time to do some spreadsheet gaming to see how much KMS tech u can get
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology
but I think with strasser it is not too hard
get u96 from medal shop as well btw she is also some tech points and a good end game sub for later
save the prints
so who do i prefarm those materials
when u are not sure always get cruiser and destroyer so x-2 or x-1
but early on try to keep a balanced amount of all when u are not actively retroing anything
for those mats
get cruiser prints because agir will need them so farm x-2
and get BB prints so x-3 for FdG
finish her if u can
u want 1 ship from pr1 at least
and she is decent
and start coining her to dev30 if u can
10/day
3000 gold
will she join fleet 2
friedrich in pr2
she wont be ready to join anything until a few weeks (maybe a month)
wtf
u want her dev30 (full star) and that takes time
it is the system to enhance shipyard ships
u cant use bulins and enhance fodder on them
its not bullins then?
no
it is these blueprints
and u can get that from research
that is why I said focus pr5 or pr7 to "prepare" those ships
for older seasons u can use gold which is faster and better than focusing an older season
this
513 ๐
bro what
but agir can be used before full star
how do i get more
agir can be coined
that is why the sooner u get her the better
10/day is recommended
there is also 150 free from catchup
where u select her face in the academy focus menu
that is why I said stop retro now 
get them and finish saint louis
then start saving for agir
and FdG
agir first right
up to you
both is fine
FdG farm is done faster
becaus she needs main ship xp and those are farmed faster
who is better than who?
fdg better then agir
FdG is one of the best BB until u get all the UR ones
and agir is still one of the best tanks
probably agir because u have decent backline options
and agir comes online faster like I said
u dont need to max her to use her
she is probably the strongest all around CV we have
but are u getting 513 prints for her soon?
i doubt it
can i get her after agir and fdg
sure u can get her but she will be pretty useless until u get 513 blueprints for her
but she can stay in dock and chill 
how lond does it take to get 513 bps
she needs soviet tech tho
with proper focus probably 2 months
keep argus, the armpit girl, lil illust if you want, hero
retire the rest
those are easily refarmable
if you havent retro nelson then keep 1 extra nelson
ok hold on i need to
list everything that i will do in the next months
1 - Build 2nd team and use z1 and z23 on main fleet
2 - Finish saint louis and coin her daily ig?
3 - Farm d4 and other stages to unlock agir
4 - Build agir
5 - farm for fdg
is this it
mr. azur lane
i hope i dont need to level up z1 or z23 skills
cuz i aint finished with fleet 1 yet
how are you not finished with fleet 1 skill
it takes ages to level raffaello skills to 10
also
do i need to level up everyone to 10?
unicorn is all 10
and enterprise
i dndt touch portland
or helena
or laffey
yet
you can skip portland
but level the rest you're using
to 10?
best if to 10
thats more then a month 100% ๐ญ
it's really not...
it's less than a week for 1 skill
unless you don't have time to play the game lol
i play daily
wait
i dont get the coining thing
does that mean i dont need to get the 513 bps
if i spend gold daily?
for the older seasons yes
the golds up to season 5
and the rainbows up to season 4
that is why i said focus should be on season 5 or season 7
thats sad
russian girl is like season 7
OH I GET IT
THE
DAILY RESEARCH THING
now it all makes sense
im starting to understand azur lane a bit more
each day

sam's guide has details about research and shipyard
u should read it when u have the chance
and ask what u dont understand
just know research and shipyard is a slow thing to progress in
U wont see results after a week or two
u need to keep at it
that is sad
takes too long
pretty sure its easier pulling for urs and getting their bullins
also you said i needed a pr1 ship
fro what
for
there is rookie missions that need u to finish a ship from that season
which gives cdc packs that u should convert to protocore to get good gear
also when a ship from season 1 is maxed u can then use season 1 catchup to get blueprints (the 300 free blueprints in research academy)
those blueprints can be converted to more protocore when the ship is dev30 which means more good weapons
using the catchup before maxing the ship with gold means u cant convert it to protocore
for season 1-3 u want to use catchup for protocore not on the ships
that is why I told u put anchorage on catchup not saint louis
everything but being stuck in 11-3 
this is basically the 11-3 incident

11 - 3 is too hard
theres a stupid 2nd boss that shows up late
i go from 100% health to 0
i think it started from here #1254145175132045373 message
lol you cant be real. agir fdg uni... all stacked up with good gear
how did it fail ๐ญ
basically everyone in that thread is already having 11-3 trauma 
surely we aren't running in a similar situation or else

i hope not
wait
how does that guy have 2 mlb ur ships and agir and hes on 11 - 3
am i rushing campaign too fast
or am i too slow on leveling characters
that person is banned from gph now 
LOL
aahahaha, too much trolling i guess
lmao
looks like he did beat it in november 
so that the short story for the 11-3 meme in gph 
don't worry the stage is very easy
i think i did it with poverty everything
u only need uni retro
still prob gon take over a month
i leave the second boss with
109x stocks
or whatever its called
then die
did u show the updated dock and depot
?
i di
here
u were one fleeting tho
doesnt look like fleet 2 was ready
which is epected
train fleet 2 in divergent chessboard
then in 11-1 when u are done with DC
then u can easily do 11-3
Well u want peter mlb for agir points
Then when u start agir u want to use her for the xp grind part
But eventually sure
also i am 95% on the p quest
on saint louis
guys how does fleetbuilding work, i was checking sam guide
theres bb cv support healer off-bb
how do i know what i need to build a good team
vanguards looks easier since its just main tank support and damage delaer right?
it depends on where u want to use the fleets
campaign and opsi fleets are 180 degree different
and meta showdown is the most bizarre one 
u kind of learn fleet building as the game goes on
sam's guide shows some good template compositions
and like abdou said it depends on context
for campaign fleet building u want 1 BB flag 2 CV on the sides in the backline
then tank + flex + flex
vanguard is usually dps/utility/support
depends what the map needs
Up to ch12 anything works
in ch13 u want some AA in vanguard but not much
ch14 and 15 is more specific (mainly u want AA + ASW on vanguard)
the 1 BB 2 CV is for a number of things
CV usually provide more AA and aoe dmg and utility
BB provide interception and focused dmg for elite mobs/bosses
maps have requirement for recon and air superiority
those are filled easier with CV as well
that is why 1 BB 2 CV works best in campaign usually
anyway I would say take it easy and u will learn with time
for opsi u want more specialzied boss fleets
we can get into it later when u start it
altho u should start opsi rn and use your main fleet
try and finish the opsi story at least
faer text wall
guyts
how do i do the coin stuff
nvm
yo theres some girls that im almost done with the tech points
i got the 2nd 200 techpoints from nakhimov
this bayard girl im almost done
brest
chkalov im like 70%
i can develop neptune monarch and roon
and anchorage you were talking about im 448/850
and by almost done i mean 50 points away from developing
i understand 0 of what you just said
work towards fdg, anchorage, agir
pick whichever that will contribute faction tech to these 3
cant i do 1 from each pr
wdym im not listening
read again
im asking if i can do 1 from each pr
at the same time
or can i do 3 from pr1
if the game allows me to do multiple girls at the same time
from the same pr
i dont think you understood my question, im asking about game limits, not specific tech goals
no you can't do more than 1 at the same time
i didnt understand at all
because honestly you speak gibberish
LOL
nah its understandable
sure
I dont think mori was trying to be mean
I think they were just confused by what u were asking 
but yeah u can develop whoever u want
if u cant work on anchorage/agir or FdG yet
and it is always max 1 active at any time
but u can pause and develop sth else if u dont want to finish a ship and it will save the progress
1 max per PR?
or overall
i get it but, didnt need to laugh at my face and leave the thread
because of language barriers
no u can develop them all eventually
1 max actively being developed at all times
regardless of season
fair enough 
i hope by the end of the year i can atleast get all pr1 - 4s
@thick jackal come back
idk about the coin stuff tho
it is doable
but better to develop the ones u need and will help your account first
swear enhancing all of em might take something like 5 years
just buy 10 points for gold ships and 10 for rainbow
right now u only have saint louis I think
so just buy 10 for her each day
should cost 3000 gold
how long will it take to get to dev30
I am almost done after ~1.5 years
like I said before it is a marathon not a race
at 10 per day around 1 month to max one gold ship and 50 days to max one rainbow
faster with catchup as well but u shouldnt use pr1-3 catchup yet
only FdG catchup is fine to use
but
i can do more right
per day
more then 10
u can but it is not very efficient
since the first 15 are discounted
but the first 10 discounts is best
oh okay
but i can coin
infinite ammounts of girls
per day
so thats not as bad as i expected
well not really
since the discount is shared between the gold ships
and the rainbow ships
so 10 per gold and 10 per rainbow is the ideal amount
u could do 15 for each if u are in a rush and dont care about gold that much
u dont have to go for all of them
but the 2 backliners are kinda needed
to make the xp farm part easier
oh by 1 girl i meann
1 of the abdou girls
he told me to get 2 of em
wait it was mori
not abdou
it was 3 actually
the grind thickens
yeah those 2 are kinda needed since strasser is your only other KMS backliner
u will drop the other soon hopefully 
if u are running low on archive keys u can use a HECLP ticket
the thing that doubles runs
it makes it so u do 2 runs in 1 key 
heclp ticket?
oooh okay
thats op
the only problem im facing rn is
z1 and z23 affinity
affinity
is so low
that i barely do a single run
yeah they are
nah that is cruel haha
also when they get to 0 morale they also get 50% less xp
so u should almost never do this with any ship
oh
damn
this is the gear im using on em
im tryna learn some gear stuff on guides and ...youtube
10/10 right?
the choice is fine but why using blue gear
u should have enough purples by now
just open all of your techboxes
u can check this for what is safe to scrap https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II
UPDATED 2024-10-22
This is a a list of safe to scrap equipment and niche equipment, for the EN region of Azur Lane. It's targeted toward midgame+ players. If you're new, this page is not for you! Based on The original Safe to Scrap by Itsfyh.
Find a problem? Bother me on discord: Traneptora
can i delete all blues besides extinguishers
most important is to not scrap hedgehog and unique event gear
be careful
put those on ships
u can use ships u are not using to "store" gear
if the space is not enough
oh right
bro thats hard
i can barely see the difference between aa guns and torpedos
take it slow
like everything else u will learn with time
only a few blue is worth keeping
also isnt this event gear?
yeah u can scarp this assuming u have the purple version
i dont
and u will if u open a few tech boxes
didnt get it after 100 tech boxes
u will it is not that hard to get
maybe u can even craft it in depot
YO
ok i had one twin 120mm
to craft
but thats it
ima do d4 for a bit, to hit level 80
will i be using z1 and z23
for a while
can i hard invest in them?
enhance, skills etc
enhance stuff always
makes farming easier
no skills for those 2 not needed
we are using them for agir
that is why the goal is MLB the ironblood ships u have right now
to start agir ASAP
when the z ships hit level 90-100 u can take them out and level other stuff
we dont want to max them before we start agir
hmmmm
okay
thanks mr faerlein
ur the best
also i hope im not being stupid by using bullins in comissions to save dock space
the low xp ones
this actually might be pretty stupid
eeeh
dont answer
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playing multiple gachas is rotting my brain
how does it save dock space?
just autosend for comissions
no need to worry about them
well early on when u dont have a lot of level 100 ships u might want to make sure u send 1 level 100 per commission
cuz i was using gray ships before
cuz since they arent in a fleet im able to use it
oh I see
just auto it when u can and dw that much tbh
keep bulins level 1
it is annoying when they get levels and xp
as a new player u can't develop whoever u want even if u have enough tech for
imo
i meant more so pick 1 so u dont idle it
not necessarily full dev them
or pick whoever u like
it is fine to not min/max all the time
if u have 1 rainbow and 1 gold to dev with gold it means u can chill for 3-4 weeks
hmm ima do
neptune then?
whos the better option
ibuki
pick someone and ignore them tbh until u have enough for agir
is your anchorage still far off?
right, she is the only one that i cant do
yes
what do i farm for eagle tech
there is a lot of map drops in campaign
gives like 150 tehc points
is frankling better the nhood?
im starting to regret not pulling for her
i saw the
i think it was kimocheese guy on youtube
i dont remember rn
saying that frankling was a better hood
franklin is a CV
comparing her to hood is pointless
she is a good SR carrier
but save cubes for may
if u have a lot of cubes u can do a few pulls
also dont trust youtubers for information
there is only a few good ones and most of the time their vids get outdated anyway
and from what I have heard kimocheese is not trustworthy
to put it mildly
damn
thats sad
well I remember I said save retro blueprints for saint louis or agir
do u have enough?
indep needs her retro to be better than what u have already
i do have enough
for em
so with her retro
shes better then peter?
wait
is she replacing saratoga later on?
so indep hood implacable
alright
thats gon take a while since
i only get deutchland in d4
so im perma farming for a whiole
yeah that is fair enough
u can go to chapter 12 then worry about agir then tbh
finish saint louis and start coining her
finish roon also if u can
more KMS points 
start anchorage/agir/FdG asap when u get enough points for any of them
if u do some calcs u might have enough for agir tbh
but idk
u will need some books and bulins to mlb them all
u might want to do that later when u reach ch12
up to you
getting 2 proper teams is probably more urgent
cant reach ch12 yet prob
yeah could be a bit more
if u level your 2 fleets u can easily
but also commander level might prevent u from progressing further so u might have to stop anyway
not really
1-2 dead weeks I think
ouch
its actually funny
11 - 3 was so hard
it was something liek
30% chance of me defeating the boss
with the worst grade possible
but 11 - 4 i almost get an S sometimes
100% winrate
well as long as u cleared 
guys
is napoli good
im doing the research 7
pr 7
and when theres no nakhimov im picking napoli
yeah that is fine
yo permanent agir maid skin and i still dont have the character ๐ญ
im 546/700
ima mlb the sr iron blood tech ships
ideally u want to farm 12-1
or at least 10-1/11-1
does bringing more iron blood units = more xp
only vanguard for part 2
and main ships for part 1
so 3 is max
if this is agir
it should say in the xp mission which ships are needed
YO
since when this was a thing
can i use it?
no 
xp grind is easy
u want to analyze these for protocore
protocore = easy end game gear
yo i know i shouldt look at tier lists
but i got this yuudachi girl from hard stages
her retrofit is a tier 0 yk
is she reaally good?
Not worth the investment tbh
YO
Rip coins
something i never see nani
since sometimes i pick napoli maybe
ill use her on my second fleet
once i get her in
2 - 3 years
It is an ongoing event
It is free
U have 10 quick finish per day
Use the insta finish on the rainbow books if u have em
cool
if they are just used for farming agir then no need
so ig saint louis will replace one of them once she is ready
right?
she is dev 25 rn
Well later when u push sure
But when u are farming agir keep them for now
wsg guys
is lion worth getting
i barely am able to play the game on this update
it keeps freezing for some reason
Yes she is a great BB
Get her
Maybe check #tech-support
Idk but ik other ppl were struggling
alright
who am i getting here
Check the pin in #gameplay-help
U-81 is the meta pick if u lack her and u lack fishpack subs
yes u don't have fishpack
flasher will be here in about 7-8 months
alright
also
what should i get from the core monthly shop
i need to get somethibng to complete the handbook
chips
oki
do /coredata in #bot-spam
alright thanks
also which one was the
gear site
i formatted my pc and lost all stuff i had saved
i was looking in https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ca but i dont think it was updated
doesnt have raff
look in #gameplay-help
yo i hope this is the most meta ship ever created in azur lane history
she is top of the meta for sure 
alright
this doesnt mean MLB her with your UR bulins btw
better ask about that in the main channel
ima mlb lion first
when u have 4 bulins ready
the nun
that i got
yeah
but wdym i shouldnt mlb
game prob wont have any other ur for a while so
i have time
i think
and right
theres a copy in the shop so
1 less ur bullin
I just meant being good =/ MLB immediately
cuz MLB prio depends what else u have and what u want to do
it is just better to check before u commit 4 bulins
Like MLB her would not be a waste but idk your dock so I just play it safe
always best to ask who to MLB when u have 4 bulins ready 
nah its fine i dont have any mlb
actually
lion is bb too right
so it would be a waste since raff is also a bb
maybe i should full commit on trafalgar
u generally want 3 top of the line UR BB MLB before u commit to other UR
I would MLB lion 100%
should i be leveling everyone to 125?
the ships that u want to use in w14 onward
meta showdowns
opsi mob and bossing
hmmmmmmmmmm



