Help with fleets for 13-3 and 13-4

[stiff timber]

Hi, can i have help building mobs and boss fleet for 13-3 and 13-4? Like who to slot on each or who should I lvl up and gear for it, thx in adv

Vanguards

Main Fleets

[zenith grove]

wow im impressed that you beat 13-1 and 2 with that

you only have 5 120s

[stiff timber]

Yeah managed to auto

1sec gonna show the fleets i used

[zenith grove]

i would advise you to just level your fleet in 12-4 for now...

[stiff timber]

yeah but i wanna know what are the 2 fleets i have to lvl for it

[zenith grove]

you dont have sandy eh... you can start by doing anchorage, coin dev level, no need fs5

[stiff timber]

Mob fleet i used

Boss fleet

[zenith grove]

if you have eld retrofit item, i would recommend that too

[stiff timber]

Sadly I don't have the item

thats why i didnt even mlb her yet

Mainz will be mlb tmr, was gonna focus anchorage after that

[old stratus]

doing w13 is all about gear

gear them correctly and they should do fine
if u lack aa in the mob u can replace fdg for another cv

[stiff timber]

i craft what i can based on slaimuda tierlist

[old stratus]

u don't craft anything beside maybe a champy gun from the proto shop

[fringe nest]

can try

aquila unicorn independence
roon yuudachi montpelier

nj yk2 enterprise
lala helena stlouis

should be good enough to clear w13

[stiff timber]

Some of my best geared

[old stratus]

u didn't follow the +13 priorities

can u show ur depot with equipped on ?

[stiff timber]

i didnt see any +13 priorities tbh

[fringe nest]

your gear choice is interesting

especially on unicorn

[zenith grove]

yeah unicorn can use the flapjack XD

[stiff timber]

i just grab what i can get my hands on based on this page

oh, i prioritized flapjacks on my boss fleet

[old stratus]

do u see where is the champy gun
6th in the list and it is the best against 13-4

how much core data do u have ?

[stiff timber]

i honestly hve no clue, been playing since TLR collab so thats why im asking how to fix my stuck situation

[old stratus]

also doing flap before wyverns u should ask more in #gameplay-help

[stiff timber]

i just saw flap as first option on most of the CVs i have

[old stratus]

how much core data do u have

[stiff timber]

only 1k right now

Im also up to date with OS, can kill arbiter on normal so wanted to use my mats

Also have some gold books and mats selectors

[stiff timber]

gonna auto 12-4 with this then to lvl everyone to 120 for now

thx

[fringe nest]

here you go, ideally you want an AP gun on NJ

and better CL DD guns but they can be mitigated since your backlines are pretty strong

[stiff timber]

thats based on my owned gears? or gears i should try to craft?

[old stratus]

i thought that he could buy a breguet from the shop

[fringe nest]

based on your depot. but i think you're still lacking some

just... do your best

LOL

[stiff timber]

what would you advice me to craft to improve that?

[fringe nest]

uh... wyvern, 457/champy

[old stratus]

go to craft and see if u have enough to get one of these

[fringe nest]

go double fighter on aquila if you're facing mob issue

but with circular formation and that backline it should be enough

[stiff timber]

oh i dont have enought UR plane prints

[fringe nest]

oh you can also wait for event lol

might be AP gun

[orchid panther]

Sandy is the best thing since sliced bread. Mainz is worthless.

[stiff timber]

can craft 2

[old stratus]

do it

[stiff timber]

who do i slot them as prio? ill only have those 2 as gold ones

[orchid panther]

One of the devilukes is probably better than what you are using

[orchid panther]

Use a real gear guide

[stiff timber]

Aquila flagship?

[stiff timber]

because as a fairly new player i know one by default right?

[orchid panther]

#bot-spam /equip sam

#bot-spam /plus13

[fringe nest]

yes

[old stratus]

can u make this ?

[stiff timber]

where is that?

i mean faction

[old stratus]

it is a DD gun should be somewhere between royal and uss

[fringe nest]

royal navy

[stiff timber]

Considering prerequisite can make 2

[severe hinge]

whats special about the twin 114 dd gun

[stiff timber]

want me to make 1 or 2 and for who?

[fringe nest]

this one might be better

[orchid panther]

I think they're all garbage in the face of Harbin and 128

[severe hinge]

its not better than the twin 130s or twin 128

[orchid panther]

Maybe if you had a barrage dd but you dont

[fringe nest]

what is 130

[severe hinge]

for barrage dd just single 76 or 113

[orchid panther]

No more like nimi who does have a gun proc while still doing gun damage

[fringe nest]

oh the tashkent

yeah that one is pretty much one of the best gold

[severe hinge]

it is the best gold dd gun

[orchid panther]

Actually make a sap

[old stratus]

he has 1k core data and i think he should get a breguet

he doesn't have any tb

1 barracuda

[severe hinge]

just dont use it against heavy it sucks

[fringe nest]

1 +6 barracuda

[orchid panther]

So do the other 2 so...

[severe hinge]

twin 128 does things reasonably well and is also cheap to craft so just use that one

[stiff timber]

can craft another barracuda instead of 1 of the 2 AA guns

[fringe nest]

craft from where

[stiff timber]

gear lab

[fringe nest]

no dont

for barracuda, either craft from depot blueprints or get from techbox

don't waste gearlab materials for that

[stiff timber]

also for this i have 2 hellcats and 1 mounted

[orchid panther]

You should immediately stop crafting anything

You are either misreading or being led astray. Barracuda was a waste of electronics. Very bad.

[fringe nest]

1 mounted??

you have 3 hellcat

[stiff timber]

oh yeah im dumb sorry

Since i only have 1 golden barracuda what should i give aquila and enterprise?

[fringe nest]

do you have more techbox unopened

royal navy ones

gold ones

[stiff timber]

opened all gold ones i had

didnt get any plane

[fringe nest]

💀

im not sure if purple cuda or tenzan gonna cut it

never tested them w13

you have to ask the more experienced people

[stiff timber]

who you want me to slot this?

[old stratus]

@fringe nest my best

[fringe nest]

💀

[old stratus]

lala should be fine

[fringe nest]

i think we all can agree that you're lacking gear, maybe come back for w13 later when you're more geared

plus UR event soon, maybe don't waste the oil

[fringe nest]

seeing the PR1 AA gun is just so funny lol

[old stratus]

pushing campaign is also mostly for gems to expand the dock

[stiff timber]

is not like i need to clear it asap, i was more hopping to be pointed on what i should work preparing for that, this gives me the idea of now get that fleet to 120

[stiff timber]

the one on Uni? i didnt get it from gear lab, was able to craft it from research academy random prints

[fringe nest]

this one

[old stratus]

k i think i found with what to fill with some changes

[fringe nest]

this only meant that you did the wrong research academy focus back then

[stiff timber]

that one also from research prints

i was focusing on pr1 for st and roon prints

[fringe nest]

ye that's the wrong part

unless your account is like... giga old

[stiff timber]

what should i keep as focus then?

right now i put it on 4

[old stratus]

i think we should guide him to what to get from proto and gear lab

[fringe nest]

4 is fine-ish

tho idk if people go for 4 or 5 or 7 now

[old stratus]

4 and 7 TBH 5 can rot until coining and gear lab

[fringe nest]

all have their pro and con

ye im a 4 stan myself

[stiff timber]

do i craft Kearsarge? i think i read she pairs well with yk2?

i was going to start plymouth tmr for the newcomer missions

for 6th tab i have to craft a serie 5

[fringe nest]

ply good

but can forget about kearsarge

she's good but she needs dev30, which you won't get anytime soon

[old stratus]

do u know on what to spend the protocores ?
that if u are analyzing the data packs u are getting

[stiff timber]

im not analyzing them, tbh, only got a few saint louis ones

that i converted

right now im doing daily 10 with coins on anchorage and agir

10.2k gold daily

[old stratus]

go to the depot and locate the combat data packs

[stiff timber]

oh i know what you mean, i was using them on my units tbh

[old stratus]

analyze them all

[stiff timber]

my serie 5 is going to be plymouth

even the 5 ones?

[old stratus]

they are the only way to get protocores early on

[fringe nest]

yes analyze them all

no exception

[stiff timber]

oh, so ill have to grind royal navy exp for plymouth?

[fringe nest]

for every PR ship

that's how you should be doing it

[stiff timber]

how to analyze that exp?

i was using that exp to skip that

[fringe nest]

just click on them

using them for exp grind is a total waste

basically pushing back your gear progression by MONTHS

not even kidding

months

[stiff timber]

ok i analyzed all

i have 1218 prototype cores

[fringe nest]

good job, now go buy PR3 prints

i forgot how many they cost

50? 30?

[old stratus]

300 i think for all

[stiff timber]

which one?

[old stratus]

15

[fringe nest]

PR3 prototype prints or somethingsomething

in prototype shop

[old stratus]

something in the bottom of the list

[fringe nest]

you're looking for this blueprint https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)

[stiff timber]

This one?

[fringe nest]

yes

click info and you should see that gun above

need 25 for 1 gun

so... clear it and buy again next week

oh this Saturday*

[stiff timber]

thats my new NJ gun then?

[fringe nest]

for w13 yes

especially for 13-4

i think the mk7 can still work til 13-3, but you want AP against fatbitch taihou

[old stratus]

it is currently the best gun against heavy with timing considered

[stiff timber]

and this is what i gear now to farm exp and gold on 12-4 until i have them 120?

[fringe nest]

just use whatever you want to farm lol

[old stratus]

some pr3 is still meta until now
even if the new event gun happens to be ap u still need 2 more because of the limited factor

[fringe nest]

not as important, and these fleets will trash w12

[stiff timber]

i need to farm gold anyways also to pull on event

yeah, i just want to 120 then

[old stratus]

k lets go to the gear lab where u spent the selectors for the mk7

first u want 2 wyverns and 2 ju 87
come back again after getting them

[stiff timber]

wyverns will take a while, i dont have UR plane print

obviously i cant kill arbiter hard yet

[old stratus]

go to the voucher shop in opsi and see how many loggers are left
the special ones

harby is just vouchers

[stiff timber]

i only have 300 left

[old stratus]

are u done from the opsi of this month ?

[stiff timber]

cleared all up to arbi normal

[old stratus]

6 loggers not bad
u can go to items and see how many vouchers u can get next month

[stiff timber]

i still need to do today dailies

[old stratus]

press on the left one and look at the bottom

[stiff timber]

7854

[old stratus]

did u clear every symbol on the map ?

[stiff timber]

i also have arbiter parts

[old stratus]

arbiter and harbiter parts are vouchers

[old stratus]

i don't know about killing this month's harbiter with what u have we might need special forces for it

[stiff timber]

That occupied zone appeared today, gonna clear later

[old stratus]

yeah looks like u did everything that u could
u bought out the 3 shops except the meta one right >

[stiff timber]

everything except meta and repairs

coins also reset?

like i have 380k

[old stratus]

this was a huge waste

[stiff timber]

if they reset i might as well just buy stuff form meta shop befre end of month

or they also get converted to vouchers?

yeah, i thought i needed that, now i realize i dont

oh coins convert to voucher i see

100:1 ratio

[old stratus]

keep it like that for now
the only way to increase it is by defeating the harbiter

[old stratus]

also yes these fleets were meant for 13-3 and 13-4

[stiff timber]

yeah, gonna lvl them then and farm some gold to lvl up gears, be ready to pull later this week

thanks for the help, ill bother you guys again here later on if i need more advie after im done with this homework you gave me

[old stratus]

if u aren't in a dock space pinch or not doing a personal challenge i advise to skip pushing campaign in this period of time

[stiff timber]

mostly i wanted to be pointed at smth to do

and saw pushing more campaign as a goal, now i have stuff to do for the next days thanks to that

[old stratus]

making fleets to beat harbiter should be the best something to do

because u will just be leveling stuff in 12-4

while getting tech and waiting for better cats

for me i did harbiter while i was still in 13-2

[stiff timber]

yeah, now ill 120 everyone there, then switching units to keep getting 120s

[stiff timber]

who should i 120 beside those 12?

for harbi

also i dont have this for independence

[old stratus]

anchorage agair then lala
but since lala is almost there u can lvl 120 and use
then sirius

[old stratus]

i told u to buy it from the core data shop

[stiff timber]

oh i probably missed that sorry

[old stratus]

that plane is giga cracked

[stiff timber]

got it

[old stratus]

for just 800 core data

next month get another one and put it on enty

[stiff timber]

yeah got it now, 224 core left, still need today daily hard runs

[old stratus]

the other thing u want to get is just a 3rd white shell

[stiff timber]

i still need to do today dailies and weeklies

[old stratus]

ignore the black one it is extremely niche

the standard BB aux is 99% of the time white shell + radar

if u have 3 washing machines i think u should be able to craft the radars

[stiff timber]

i was lucky with the washing machines print on the cn event

[old stratus]

go to the crafting section of the depot and locate the radar prints

[stiff timber]

This ones?

[old stratus]

and btw this is why we retro helena

read its skill

[stiff timber]

so i replace black shell on NJ for it

the other gold things i can craft are useless right?

[old stratus]

u need to consider some factors when u do it
the reason why we didn't put the radar there because we didn't use an sg radar on helena to meet the conditions for the -4 seconds on her random skill

[stiff timber]

i have maxed helena skills

[old stratus]

also in order to fit the cv airstrikes in the window of the 10 seconds after the activation

[stiff timber]

so if i use this radar i want sg radar on helena?

[old stratus]

yes if u use 3 BBs
but if u have CVs in there it will become more complicated because in general CVs need more effort to be fast

mainly extra reload stats

as for the rest of the gear this is very niche
but TBH i use 2 of it in this current meta showdown and use 2 also in w13h

compensates the lack of AA stats that is it

[stiff timber]

so since im using yt2 and ent ill keep current loadout but craft the radar for when im using 3 BBs with helena

[old stratus]

the torpedo is a little bit weird but since u have enough from the improved and the homing ib quad u can ignore i think

the saiun kai is one of the best planes in the game for bossing

for example if u want to fight the current harbiter or meta showdown u would want to use it somewhere

the issue for using these type of planes which are converging torpedo bombers is that they need a stationary target or at worst a slowed one by 70%+ against heavy who are slow by default

the reason why someone like the budget avp against medium is very recommended when someone asks what to get after anchorage in the shipyard

but luckily we will get the best stopped in the game after this new event in march implacable

against heavy armor avp is actual garbage and u better use a slower at that point

the most obtainable one is ark royal

[stiff timber]

oh, for vanguards then ill lvl to 120 anchorage agir and sirius, for main fleet who should i lvl?

how many fleets on avg people use to beat harbi?

[old stratus]

aside from the ones u will be using to push campaign
fdg and avp

[old stratus]

i think my first harbiter which was the easiest one took me a massive BB fleet
a mediocre CV fleet and a meme mob fleet that did 4x bars

[stiff timber]

I can basically craft any eagle or iron unit

[old stratus]

i remember the BB fleet did the most of the HP around 55x or 60x bars

[stiff timber]

ill hit 900 on royal today or tmr to unlock plymouth

who should i chase after i get ply?

[old stratus]

i would work on hakuryuu personally

i did ply way later after beating w15

[stiff timber]

i wanna craft someone on series 5 so i can unlock next sheet of newcomer missions

Brest im at 234/250

[old stratus]

focus on 4 for now ignore the rest

[stiff timber]

i was gonna go back to 4 after crafting at least 1 5

since the missions on each sheet take days

[old stratus]

u have anchorage agir and hakuryuu
this will take u a lot of time
avp will be replaced in a month by implacable

[stiff timber]

i cant unlock hakuryuu now

she is at 535/950

not talking about full mlb

[old stratus]

i was in the pain for getting tech for haku before
i know the feeling

[stiff timber]

i just wanted to unlock 1 5 so i open last sheet of mission

no need to mlb it rn

[old stratus]

the missions are protocores at best that u can get from the shipyard

u want to have good fleets and look for the most impactful and easy to do ones

[stiff timber]

i just wanted that newcomer thing to dissapear from my lobby

[old stratus]

ply isn't impactful until she is dev25 at least which will make u actual focus pr5

[stiff timber]

yeah i didnt plan on mlb her, just move on missions

[old stratus]

there are people who want the newcomer thingy to remain to flex that they are still new

[stiff timber]

but then for hakuryu ill have to go back maybe and unlock ijn ships

they give good tech points

like i can work on ibuki then

[old stratus]

i had to do war archive for ijn tech and mlb questionable ships

try to work on something that intersects with what u are doing too

[stiff timber]

who would be that

anchorage, agir and avp are unlocked already

im doing coins on both anchore and agir daily, 3k and 7.2k

i wanna research someone in the meantime

why dockyard doesnt have a shipyard filter

[old stratus]

well it is kinda hard to pinpoint which one u should go for but imo since it seems like u were in pr4 focus for sometime and the usual transition should be towards pr7 i think should be the next target since u are leveling aquila and the soon to be released UR BB will both contribute to her CDC

but again if u don't want this much downtime u can do ply if u are in a massive tech struggle

gathering enough tech will need some time especially for lvl 120s

[stiff timber]

who is that one on the emoji, sorry

[old stratus]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Admiral_Nakhimov

although heads up
her best companion is soyuz that will rerun in a year at least

but as a standalone ship it is still very strong

in the shipyard there are only 2 ur cv haku and nyakhi and both are giga cracked

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1321982185548546048/1343564214522089554/image.png?ex=67bdbb2e&is=67bc69ae&hm=57189f099245b7e17fd52a1fda8ce19ceb28f82176f5dfecbd0558af42f0b789&
this is today

someone else was doing a meta dossier https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280616834902528010/1343455136210751579/CF365226-4E53-41EF-A7DD-57B788C64F16.png?ex=67bd5598&is=67bc0418&hm=e2189e79147cc1efdf25c4eebafb45c26447636c44f8ee7cb962dac9927203a8&

[stiff timber]

Oh, i need more tech points

from serie 7 i can only start developing first one and bayard

[orchid panther]

Sardines easy. Pull ur bb, done. Np a little harder. You can farm a few vanguards. But ideally you lucked into Volga or Belo. Chaklov might be an option.

[old stratus]

yeah the chkalov idea should be better than ply just for np tech

[stiff timber]

it seems i can farm NP and Sard

event will also help

[old stratus]

italiano doesn't matter because of the next event

save the golden bulins for ijn tech

always use the minimal amount of resources for each task especially bulins

the first thing u want to do is to try and mlb all of the elite ships

[stiff timber]

thats what i did for iron blood

i mostly mlb elites with dupes drop

and kepts the gold ones at base

if they are moroe than base is because i got more than 1 dupe

I honestly have to chill on archives, was farming king George for royal points and now in at 4/60 tickets

And she dropped the same run i was able to redeem her

[old stratus]

it was an expensive bulin

[stiff timber]

hi, do i buy only 5 to complete the 406mm? or i buy all 20 again? what do i do with the other 15?

[fringe nest]

buy all again

you will want to have 3 champy gun

need 75 total

4th month you just need to buy another 15

first 3 month is sweep all 20

[stiff timber]

i also read the new event gun is better?

[fringe nest]

only against medium

you will be using 2 champy and 1 raff gun for medium, but heavy you will still be using 3 champy

unless you have Soyuz gun

in which you can stop at 2 champy gun

[stiff timber]

Done thx, and have enough to buy it the next 2 months

[fringe nest]

ah if you're still using musashi

also stop at 2nd champy

no musashi=3

XD

[stiff timber]

That AA is worth to craft to replace 1 of my purples?

i managed to clear 13-3 full stars on auto with this before event starts

didnt try 13-4 coz im farming the event

[fringe nest]

no

it's a budget before STAAG

you already have staag so it's obsolete

this one is good for your CB though

can craft if you need CB gun

if you're using Guam/Kron gun then it's better

but if you don't have any, then this is the best AP CB gun

this is good too, for your BBs

[stiff timber]

this is my current setup with loadout

[fringe nest]

i know, we made it

[stiff timber]

i mean to ask if i need it for any of my CBs

[fringe nest]

well those 2 fleets don't have CB

[stiff timber]

oh my bad

i confused CA with CB

[fringe nest]

when you are using agir for example, you can give her that gun

[stiff timber]

should i craft it if i can use it to make another staag?

[fringe nest]

no, you just craft staag from your depot

gearlab isn't worth

[stiff timber]

using that as base i mean

ok

what can i try to beat event EX?

[fringe nest]

basically UR spam

it's heavy so it's not looking too good for you ahaha

if you're still rocking that mk7 on NJ

[stiff timber]

yeah, only managed to chop it to like 50bars but vanguard dies

[fringe nest]

and yk2 not that great against heavy either

it's fine it's just 500 cogs

i was like this too when i started the game

you'll beat it with better ship and gear in the future

or manual hard enough

[stiff timber]

im doing catchup on anchorage at research lab, should i change to agir?

[fringe nest]

what devs are they

[stiff timber]

Both 19

[fringe nest]

just continue anchorage

she can max out faster

which means faster better tank for you at full potential

[stiff timber]

yeah she is at 211 prints left

agir 334

im still doing daily 10 from coins on both

[fringe nest]

ye carry on

that's good

[stiff timber]

ahright thanks, gonna keep spamming d3 hard for now

[stiff timber]

Hi, what should I get from shop? Is it worth getting the coins uf im stsrving of them to pull and awaken/limit break ships?

i still have like 110 cubes left but no coins to build

[old stratus]

coins are the least of the priorities

siren then hidden coord
if u don't have a wyvern start doing the classified logges

[orchid panther]

You can buy and not use or just wait until end of month. There is no rush

[stiff timber]

Now that event is over, went to try world 13 and this cleared ez on auto

Now need help for w14 fleets

Anchorage is also MLB now, do i level her up and replace Lala? Can i reuse lala gear on someone else?

[stiff timber]

just to double check, the ju-87c purple or the ju-87 d-4?

[fringe nest]

d4

[stiff timber]

yeah assumed the gold one, but i loose nothing double checking

[stiff timber]

This is how my fleet currently looks like after some minor gear changes like NJ main gun, enty breguet, full golden catapults etc

what can i modify for w14?

or lvlup and gear?

i can trade 2 more UR bullins if needed

i asume i can replace lala for anchorage?

[fringe nest]

you want another AP gun

and uh, raise agir anchorage to 125

fdg too

move lala to mob fleet

[stiff timber]

they all 3 on my dorm rn

i cant promise 125 asap, can they work closer to 120? how do i adjust my fleets for world 14 with them?

[fringe nest]

i actually am not confident on the vanguard, idk how Nana perform lul

but boss vanguard will consist of agir x anchorage

if you can raise sandiego that would be good

[stiff timber]

i dont have her item

[fringe nest]

buy it

[stiff timber]

oh wait, i dont have the ship

[fringe nest]

get her from CL medal shop if available

[stiff timber]

is elridge that i dont have the item

do i mlb AVP? or work on anchorage fate?

[fringe nest]

avp is becoming less of a priority since implacable is next week

unless for some reason you're skipping her

-# which i dont suggest at all

[stiff timber]

i dont think so

then ill keep using my 3k gold daily on anchorage

so then how should me fleets look like before tackling world 14?

[fringe nest]

@fervent sage thought on Lala Yuudachi Nana mob? idk who to put on boss with agir+anchorage

[fervent sage]

gimme one sec

[stiff timber]

so roon, helena, montpelier and saint louis become useless?

[fringe nest]

they arent great for w14

[fervent sage]

have you got San Diego?

[stiff timber]

whats the gimmick on w14? w13 was planes

[stiff timber]

not yet

[stiff timber]

this are my vanguards

[fervent sage]

do you have CLs in the medal shop

[stiff timber]

no

was CV and CA

im fishing her

[fervent sage]

have you got Juneau

[stiff timber]

i do daily ship build on light

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for w14 now btw

title is old, he finished w13

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i have her mlb but not retrofit

[fervent sage]

I see

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yeah, this is what i used to clear w13 on auto, after that i shared my current units

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Mob: FDG, Unicorn, Aquila, Lala, Nana, Momo
Boss: NJ, Yorktown 2, Enterprise, Agir, Yuudachi, Anchorage

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i didnt know collab trio was that good

guess ill have to invest on them

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it kinda just worked out that way

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a bit sad for benching roon but it is what it is

i just hope i dont mess with the equipments

thx for the homework, got smth to do until next week then

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gear should look something like that

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no beaver badge?

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Nah

Excess speed in the boss fleet would be a bad thing