W15 gear priority

[forest mesa]

[shut spruce]

it was mandatory for me

[forest mesa]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4RgBgJggOBOANPCYBsFEBYCs7NRpGZgDsGiUWWm88YAzGDYgESkAmAhhxwMZcurbAF1E4VISTwc8CrmYE0OFlRZgc0WCVSTM7bj0FDR4mhpiIwkFgtXKWCUtsrUdkKJYOljg4VhExEFIIEMgrUixLMHpVWBoSN0pFK1DoL05fP1NgBgg8CEwGLDyiz3sMIpwXStSMMAyOACNBQ38gmAwGJDIGCnoqJVq0FxL1NM99TKz2sTAgkCg6CDzsPPUcUsoHEnICJMhNBqnuXmN28W0YSwZPChxB7dq1EmKdGGO2TLPsgPEYlCrEpwTCbFgyfCITS7Cg2PRfbg%2BNqiBbdFCaCJRIrwN7IBrqA4HCaNIznHIwPCrZjQxC3R6EYaFKyEHT1EkzHJ5UgaXZY2k4uIJKyE8Zhdm%2BWZWBbACBBWXiWULGghdSRJm9VRQFJagksKawQRQMl-CSkTw9Uh9AiwFLoJI6xKWE6CHDGjqhT5kPlYM1MqA21S2vnOrhYLg%2BSXzcQgGjaFDYFS2RMkfFKSyESx0RiPVhoACmvjQJhNsegmFwuNwfKYEHs6ceWaguNzfBaRF%2BQVj1nLKksVeiqe26dqkG0n1zBo5ATEUECAEIIAA6UJzqhcBiwUg4IA

not sure if there is a way to shorten this link

[worldly ingot]

honestly I feel like this clears

with proper picking nodes and good submarine usage

[forest mesa]

My subs levels are high enough?

W

[worldly ingot]

what is their level

mine was 120

[forest mesa]

DOES THAT link

show my stuff

Its all there

[worldly ingot]

oh it does my bad

hmmm subs not ideal tbh

but I feel like your mob is strong enough to carry

worth a try

sth like 500 oil

up to you

[forest mesa]

i got like 80K in mail

I booked Zuihou to 70

Incase you wanted her

[worldly ingot]

could u make this gun for z52?

[forest mesa]

Let me check

[worldly ingot]

and give the steam cata on fritz to volga

main fleet gear has prio over supp fleet

[worldly ingot]

also open all your T4 boxes

maybe u get more catapults

[forest mesa]

they are opened

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then godspeed sailor

[forest mesa]

wait Enterprise has some

on her they are +8 Gold i think

[worldly ingot]

make it +10 and give it to volga

[forest mesa]

no its +10 we good

i also made that Fleet thing Refelct the Enchance levels of evrything accuratly as well

[worldly ingot]

yeah good job

i gtg sleep
so cant help if u struggle sry until tomorrow

[forest mesa]

okay thank you so much

[worldly ingot]

and tomorrow is actually maintenance
so see you after maintenance
I hope you manage

[forest mesa]

[forest mesa]

So it begins.

2 super carrier nodes do a number

Mob fleet falls apart for last figt

[forest mesa]

Ahhh im need to level something new i think

Second attempe Unicorn died at first boss

[worldly ingot]

Hey

I will check later when I get on pc

And u can tell me what the issue was?
Was it planes leaking to backline? Or submarines?
What is causing a lot of dmg

[shut spruce]

yeah rushing this without taking the proper measurements will most likely not end well

for auto u want to have good enough everything

[forest mesa]

I was mixing manual and auto

Might of been plane dmg

My backline usually falls apart first

[worldly ingot]

I see
Well we can have a look when maint is over

Or maybe u should farm event seeing as your oil is a bit low

Then we can come back to 15 after event

[forest mesa]

Yee biggest thing that Hurst is double super carrier

[worldly ingot]

Did u use the airstrike and subs on them?

[forest mesa]

I then have to pray on lower difficulty nodes

[worldly ingot]

Also hopefully u didnt fight any triple threat bb nodes

[forest mesa]

To heal I use air strike on one

I stuck to carrier and dd nodes

[worldly ingot]

I see

[forest mesa]

I did a bb once and mushai got nukrs

[worldly ingot]

Yeah that can happen

Well imo lets use event to get stronger gear

Then we can tackle it better

[forest mesa]

Sounds good to me

Gives me to to grind for shinamoto in pr6

[shut spruce]

i did 15-4 while face tanking all the planes

i mean in the double giga cv nodes

[forest mesa]

I'm still time gated by 2 days

[shut spruce]

shinamoto a new ship

[forest mesa]

Yes

Exp will take longer then that I think

[shut spruce]

dropping this here for some reason

[forest mesa]

Also I have bird mlb i can level her

During event

[worldly ingot]

Yeah very good

[shut spruce]

modes are napping

u need to level lusty that is the key of change

[worldly ingot]

Implacable also good to level

She is very good for 15
And good regardless for arbiter and bosses

[shut spruce]

he has better choices for 15

[worldly ingot]

I would prio her and zuihou
And yeah lusty would be good as well

[shut spruce]

but for bossing she is SSS+ tier

[worldly ingot]

Also the submarines

Actually can u post the submarines again

What options u have

[shut spruce]

i remember he was still using an elite

[worldly ingot]

Yeah

[shut spruce]

#1341239748999512187 message

[worldly ingot]

Get 37 from merit shop and raise her

[forest mesa]

I'm leveling lusty in 12 1

[shut spruce]

already hinted towards its importance a month ago

[forest mesa]

I'll post subs one sec ond

[worldly ingot]

If no change abdou already linked to it

But ok np post again for update

[shut spruce]

he leveled them

[forest mesa]

Sub levels changed a bit but subs i have didn't

One second on ss

[shut spruce]

and gear

[forest mesa]

Uhh sub gear is poverty at best no snorkels

I have new Italian sub

Thats not listed in here but that it

[shut spruce]

u are underprepared to auto 15-4

who knows u might sac aquila in this banner

and suddenly u have the cheat code

[forest mesa]

No gold bullins left used on bird

[shut spruce]

raise with dupes

[forest mesa]

[worldly ingot]

Raise 96 47 and archerfish then

[forest mesa]

96 and 47 are 110 atm

Arch fisher without fish pack

[worldly ingot]

Better than wasting cog chips on an elite u wont use again

U can prep her for when u get flasher

[forest mesa]

[worldly ingot]

She is also probably better than u101 even in wolfpack but not sure about that

LdV would have been best but u dont have bulins

So go for archer

[forest mesa]

I'm using 410

As the third

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Yeah I see that

Well up to you really
I guess it is fine but I feel like it is a waste personally

Level the 2 golds to 120 if u can

Use dorm and xp books

Better than sortie

[forest mesa]

I'll level fish instead if 410 is bad

[worldly ingot]

Sortie means more oil wasted

Fish is good if u ever want to switch to the fishpack in the future

But even if u dont switch u would ideally want to raise u37 or u81 at some point

That is why I feel like 410 is a waste

[forest mesa]

AgirComfy:

Pulled her

[shut spruce]

come back with aquila

[forest mesa]

~~ aqulia does want to be pulled ~~

Time to power level her and lusty

[forest mesa]

I'm post my arbiter fleets to see if anything ca. Be improved here in a sscond

[worldly ingot]

implacable replace hakuryuu

if she is MLB and level 120+

[forest mesa]

shE IS not level 120 yet

[forest mesa]

I got lusty 120 and replaced independence

Still leveling bird i don't notice a big difference with lusty over indpebdace

[worldly ingot]

Was this for 15?
Need to remind me what your fleets looked like

[forest mesa]

Gitcha

[worldly ingot]

hmmm tbh your fleets are fine

so yeah wouldnt think indep > lusty would change much

are there too many planes leaking?

possibly it is AA issue

what was mob gear like?

[forest mesa]

Sorry i fell back asleep

I can try making ply gun +12

[worldly ingot]

I think your main issue

is AA guns

2 roomba + 1 sextuple might be too slow

[forest mesa]

Oh

[worldly ingot]

put twin 90 on eldridge

or the UR AA gun

[forest mesa]

I was told roomba best

[worldly ingot]

if u have it

roomba is very good

but chapter 15 AA requirement is very strict

I feel like it might be too slow

try twin90

can u make UR AA?

the new one?

[forest mesa]

No

[worldly ingot]

try the twin 90 then

[worldly ingot]

also for z52 can u make the single 113?

the gold gun?

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Single_113mm_(QF_Mk_IV)
this one

[forest mesa]

I could it would use all my electronics

[worldly ingot]

it is worth crafting tbh

u will get electronics back with more opsi

this gun is BiS for z52

and she is almost BiS everywhere

so highly worth imo

[forest mesa]

If only ur aa guns didn't cost so much

[worldly ingot]

if musashi still takes too much plane dmg u can remove a shell from her and give her this https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/High_Performance_Anti-Air_Radar

also where is your hedgehog

it should be on eldridge I think

[forest mesa]

Its sitting in depot

[worldly ingot]

give it to eldridge

[forest mesa]

The thing is double super carrier is rough on mushai

Who wants twin 90 aa i have 3

[worldly ingot]

eldridge

[forest mesa]

Okay z52 want one as well ?

[worldly ingot]

no

roomba for her is ok

if u notice planes still leaking then we might have to reconsider

but for now I think it is good

this is also worth crafting if u can

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fairey_Gannet

instead of the purple asw plane on unicorn

it needs more electronics tho

[forest mesa]

So uhhh it did worse

I didn't have the full video on first super. Carrier

[worldly ingot]

are u calling submarines for the super carrier nodes?

[forest mesa]

They are out of rang

I am not

I use air strike on first one

[worldly ingot]

use submarines
I dont think we can improve the AA much more than this tbh

u can go b to roomba if u feel it was better

give musashi the AA radar if u havent yet

move subs to range

then fight it

[forest mesa]

She has an aa radar

[worldly ingot]

u can move them

I see

[forest mesa]

I guess UR aa guns are required for 15 4

[worldly ingot]

well not necessarily but if u dont have the best planes, and the best cats and not using subs etc
it can pile up to cause it to be difficult

the chapter is definitely difficult

dont get me wrong

but I wouldnt say UR aa matters that much

what is your support CV fleet carrying?

and use cats with mountain or flame if u have em

[forest mesa]

Oh shit

I forgot to use moutian cat

[worldly ingot]

also definitely use the subs
dont call them early
call them just as the super carrier spawns

u want to end the fight ASAP

one other thing
musashi hp might go down for the hard fights

that is fine

she will gain it back on the weaker nodes

so just because her hp is bad after 1 fight doesnt mean the run is dead

[forest mesa]

Not the best but had mountain

[forest mesa]

Do you think making ply gun +12 on mushai make any difference

[worldly ingot]

not really

the issue is mainly AA
I dont think she lacks dmg

[forest mesa]

Hmm I can try using an accelerater

[worldly ingot]

level drake
she is a good cat

[forest mesa]

Drake is getting leveled

On comfort she was level 1 3 weeks ago

[worldly ingot]

I think AA is as best as it can get tbh
use subs on super carrier
see if AA issue persists for normal nodes

[forest mesa]

It shoots fast

Byt dmg and rng are

[worldly ingot]

also what was support CV fleet planes?

[forest mesa]

Oh yea one sec

[worldly ingot]

nah not worth it leave it

[forest mesa]

I'll give u lusty as well only difference is the +9 hellcat goes to a tiger cats

Plate shortage but I have a second one that will eventually be +10

[worldly ingot]

it is not bad

i think with subs u will be fine

let me know how it goes

[forest mesa]

Okay

We are good

The only issue now is mob survives 2 boss fights

[worldly ingot]

I believe the boss fights are easier than the super carriers
Remember to use subs for bosses as well

[forest mesa]

ok

subs did not survivie after first boss rip

Got to the final boss

I just need bettee gear at thus point I think

[worldly ingot]

Did u fail?

Last boss isnt that hard as far as I remember

[forest mesa]

im leaving

and re trying

But its not looking good

[worldly ingot]

One thing u can do is use circle formation for carrier fights
And switch to double line

For boss I mean

[forest mesa]

swap to double for boss

[worldly ingot]

Since vanguard looks like the one dying

[forest mesa]

ill try that

[worldly ingot]

Yes

And call subs for boss if u still have ammo on them

[forest mesa]

only 1 sub is left alive

:-;

[worldly ingot]

Their HP is really good when the fight starts

How is your boss fleet looking?
Maybe next attempt u can try boss fleet fighting 1 and 3

[forest mesa]

Uhhhh

Cooked

[worldly ingot]

Oof

Yeah that wont do

Musashi needs to carry

What is killing you on last boss?

Vanguard eating torps?

[forest mesa]

i Tried on douvle line and got to 20 bars im restart it one more time

Double lines helped Vanguard

[worldly ingot]

No shame manualling it tbh

[forest mesa]

but now backline

I been mixing Maunal and Auto

[worldly ingot]

Imo just manual clear this run

[forest mesa]

already

[worldly ingot]

Hmmmmm
Damn

Well one other thing we can try is put indep on boss
Her x fleet will help mob fleet
For future runs I mean

Replace haku

Gimme 10 mins I will look at gear again
See what we can improve in a hurry

[forest mesa]

Current high levels

Ans I have 1k books

[worldly ingot]

honestly use the books on the subs

that is the most important thing rn

both fleets are very good

[forest mesa]

i use yo use nano in boss but haku did more DMG

so i reaplced nano

[worldly ingot]

that is fine both are similar

but i think indep is better

your mob CV will be slightly faster and stronger

because of her x fleet

[forest mesa]

HOLY

After retiring and maunal bettee

Sandy's dmg is crazy

I'll put independence in

And bench Haku then

Use lusty in support

[forest mesa]

Should I use tiger cats and barracuda on independence still?

[worldly ingot]

no give her haku's gear

rememebr use circle for carriers and double line otherwise

[worldly ingot]

well done

level your subs

I think u need subs

[forest mesa]

I'm out of gold

I cant limit break then

Level break

I mean

[worldly ingot]

honestly imo keep eldridge off tank
it will help her proc her skill more

but not sure about this

could be dangerous tech

[worldly ingot]

do it whenu can

if u mean awakening

[forest mesa]

Eldrixh started off tank

[worldly ingot]

get subs to 120 at least

[forest mesa]

And almsot died

[worldly ingot]

oh I see

it is because of the hedghehog i guess

makes sense

[forest mesa]

I swapped her middle to heal

[worldly ingot]

keep her middle then

[forest mesa]

Im 90% sure sandsy dmg is all plane dmg

[worldly ingot]

make sure you give lusty good AA planes

[worldly ingot]

probably yeah

[forest mesa]

so uhh

For Lusty

I got Tiger cat and Shitty Gold AA plane smile

Wait

indpedance is only 120

Is that going to matter

[worldly ingot]

check this here

https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

use what u can

so no tigercat

[forest mesa]

why is Tigercat bad

but Flapjack good

[worldly ingot]

their interception reload and dmg I presume

yeah tigercat interception is like 2 seconds slower

[forest mesa]

Hmm

okay

[forest mesa]

i can use the +7 FW190

[worldly ingot]

just make it +10 and it will work

[forest mesa]

@median sundial

[median sundial]

that's everything yes?

[forest mesa]

Yes all my ships

Thats are leveld / dev 30

Brest and ply are dev 25 and lower

[median sundial]

show all the golds and URs please

just in case

[median sundial]

you're in the process of getting Shimanto?

[forest mesa]

Yes

90% on the exp part 2

516 bp

[median sundial]

how many BPs?

[forest mesa]

527

[median sundial]

something like that

[forest mesa]

Are twin 90 aa craft able?

[median sundial]

yeah but don't spend resources crafting them if you don't have them already

[forest mesa]

I only have 4

Hmmm

[median sundial]

give them to the vanguards

main fleets get Staggs as usual

[forest mesa]

Who replaces fritz in support fleet

[median sundial]

Implacable

[forest mesa]

Bet

Thank you cheeky

[median sundial]

no problem

[shut spruce]

can i get an update to ur situation @forest mesa ? since i was away for some time now

and lazy to back read

[worldly ingot]

he was able to clear but it was close
cheeky updated the fleet now so hopefully further clears are easier

[shut spruce]

he reached the last boss in 15-4 ?

[forest mesa]

I beat it

Well

[shut spruce]

we beat it at almost exactly the same time

i had around 50 sec left too

but surprizingly enough ur backline got deleted while ur vanguards are healthy must be z52 diff

[forest mesa]

Yea z52 is a great tank and sandy aa with a +13 sextuple is cracked

[shut spruce]

eld also is something that u can't ignore

[worldly ingot]

I think he had AA issue that is why
If AA issue backline struggles

[shut spruce]

i used her couple times in ex stages

[forest mesa]

I have fs5 Shima now so ss should be lots better

Aa*

[forest mesa]

I pulled her will this chnage anything ?

[median sundial]

uhhh

she could replace JDA

whether that would be better I'm not 100% sure TBH

[forest mesa]

Gotcha depends on AA performance vs dmg reduction i guess

[median sundial]

if you need more AA then she's not a bad choice

and you've got Volga so it could work out

[forest mesa]

Sandy is only aa vanguard in boss fleet but idk how much aa you need compared to mob

[median sundial]

well it depends a bit on what strat you use

mob-boss-mob

or the other way around

[forest mesa]

Porably mob boss mob

[median sundial]

then changing JDA won't be doing much

so not attempted W15 with the new fleet recc yet or?

[forest mesa]

Leveling then to 125

Still

[forest mesa]

My back line is getting beat up my mob fleet what should I fix

[median sundial]

Using a another CV instead of FDG for one

[forest mesa]

Bearn meta fine she is 125

[median sundial]

nah just use Independence

or Volga

your boss fleet also may or may not live

[forest mesa]

Understood this is 13 2 hard

Not sure how much easier boss is

Compare to 4

Volga worked

[forest mesa]

You were right boss was close to dead but didn't work

[forest mesa]

What would you use cheeky for boss here

Or alpha

@worldly ingot

[worldly ingot]

mhmmm
was this ch13 hard?

[forest mesa]

Yes 13 4

Mob fleet is great

Boss is uhhhh

[worldly ingot]

why is it not triple CV tho?

[forest mesa]

Cooked at 40 bars left

You want 6 cv ?

Oo I'll try that

[worldly ingot]

no for mob at least I prefer 3 CV for more ACV value

i think boss backline is good

[forest mesa]

My mob is uni bird and independence

[worldly ingot]

not sure about the frontline tho tbh

oh wait I saw FdG for some reason

[forest mesa]

That was old one

[worldly ingot]

mob is fine then

have you tried maybe z52 in boss? and sth else for mob?

[forest mesa]

I have not i could try who has z52 tankiness that I can replace her with

Hmmm

[forest mesa]

Could try this

[worldly ingot]

u said van dies in boss?

[forest mesa]

Well backline dies first

Usally

[worldly ingot]

then keep shinano
U want to kill taihou ASAP

volga wont help

[forest mesa]

Oh

It's a dps check

[worldly ingot]

pretty much
if fight ends faster u dont need tankier stuff

actually maybe put sandy in boss

and z52 in mob

like how we do ch15

[forest mesa]

Oo

[worldly ingot]

I think sandy AA might keep backline alive more

[worldly ingot]

what is the boss backline gear like?
and the vanguard AA?

z52 can tank and eldridge off tank better I think
I dont have a lot of experience with the collab ships tho so idk

[forest mesa]

Roombas or twin 90 on vanguards with sandy having a +13 sextuple

[worldly ingot]

should be good enough I guess

what about the backline

[forest mesa]

Uhh let me see

[worldly ingot]

all the gear not just aa

for backline i mean

[worldly ingot]

put back shinano dont forget

show her gear

not volga

[snow forge]

The shitty auxes don’t help

[worldly ingot]

also that zuihou gear is

[forest mesa]

Ngl I forgot about zuiohs leveling gear

Lmao

I'll fix that really quick

[worldly ingot]

gear looks fine otherwise
maybe sandy can carry boss fleet aa
put it on circle formation and give it a try

[forest mesa]

Independence already tops dmg in mob fights

[worldly ingot]

indep is best campaign CV

I joke but she is rly good

give zuihou a staag as well

[forest mesa]

Does bird want toolbox for skill healing or double cata

I don't trust English tier list no more

[snow forge]

Well for one

Ectl and 13h aren’t a good match

[snow forge]

Double cata of course

[forest mesa]

[snow forge]

Even if not
Then double hpaar is better than toolboxes

[forest mesa]

Whats the hpaar?

[snow forge]

Triple cv for 13-4h boss?

[snow forge]

Gold aa radar

[worldly ingot]

no that was me seeing FdG in mob

it would help if u record boss fight and share if u fail
or just pay attention and see what is happening
It is probably major plane leak but still more info is best

[forest mesa]

I'll record

[forest mesa]

Because i recorded i won i guess.

[worldly ingot]

sandy the goat

[forest mesa]

Sandy is the goat

[worldly ingot]

was this circle formation?

[forest mesa]

No

Eva

[worldly ingot]

make it circle I think it will be better
cheshire died anyway
also give musashi double AA radar
the gold AA radar

[snow forge]

You are literally on 4/6 ships
You won’t get good drops

[worldly ingot]

actually who was middle?

cheshire or sandy?

[forest mesa]

I only have +10 radar

[forest mesa]

Sandy

[worldly ingot]

that is fine keep it +10

put cheshire middle might be better

[forest mesa]

What should I do differently

[snow forge]

Run sash in the middle

[worldly ingot]

the things I am telling you

[snow forge]

Give sash a ap gun

[forest mesa]

Ooo ap

[worldly ingot]

that will be risky
she might die and the run is kaput

[forest mesa]

Okay

[snow forge]

Don’t die

[forest mesa]

I moved her from flag cause she died~~

I'll try it

[snow forge]

You wanna do big damage to taihou and her repair botes

[worldly ingot]

run her off flag with circle formation and double AA radar

if she survives she can go in middle

like this

[forest mesa]

Uhh I don't have that guy

Gun*

I got the triple

Ijn gun

[snow forge]

Use a ijn ap gun that’s NOT the ur

[forest mesa]

It's the gear lab one

[snow forge]

Izumo gun is good

[worldly ingot]

if u have izumo u can use that
altho tbh the HE gun might be fine

if she fires an extra salvo cuz it has low rld I would prefer the HE gun

[worldly ingot]

i dont think the issue is backline dmg

honestly try 1 run with AA radars and circle formation

put cheshire middle

lets see how it goes first

then we can craft gear

i feel like your dmg was decent

[snow forge]

It’s not
It’s a lot of factors combined
And damage is one of them

[forest mesa]

Is it fine if one aa radar is +6 I'm out of aux plates

[worldly ingot]

backline dmg at least

[worldly ingot]

just give her normal radar then

for faster salvo

+6 is not the best

if cheshire dies again we are replacing her
she is not doing anything dead anyway

[forest mesa]

Who would replace her

She honestly feels like a burden

[snow forge]

Jeanne

[worldly ingot]

more dps
jeanne also good yeah

[forest mesa]

Who?

[worldly ingot]

jeanne d'arc

[forest mesa]

Ohh

Jda

[worldly ingot]

mr fancy pants here using acronyms

[worldly ingot]

keep cheshire for now

[forest mesa]

Jda loaudout I promotes not cursed

[worldly ingot]

well the torp bulge is not rly needed here I think

[snow forge]

Rudder and quad mag

Give her a 90mm AA

[worldly ingot]

but keep cheshire for now
her AA is rly good

[snow forge]

Are you staggering correctly

[forest mesa]

I think so

Bb fire before cv

Cv go off with in 2 3 seconds of each other

Not sure if that too short

I am not staggering

Cv for boss

Oops

22.6 and 22.7

[snow forge]

Yea

[worldly ingot]

I dont think much stagger is needed since the boss arrives pretty fast

[snow forge]

Better than no stagger

[snow forge]

Sextuple

Ancho runs 90mm

Sandy runs sextuple

[worldly ingot]

well actually it wouldnt hurt to stagger a bit

your first CV airstrike overkilled the mob I think

[forest mesa]

Isn't double sextuple in dsme fleet bad?

[snow forge]

You have sash and ancho speeding it up

[worldly ingot]

1 sexy sandy
roomba for chesh
and twin90 anchor

[forest mesa]

Yes

[worldly ingot]

i think that is best

well double sextuple idk

[worldly ingot]

if alpha has tried it it can work

[forest mesa]

Okay

[worldly ingot]

dont forget circle formation

i think vanguard will stay alive cuz of anchorage even on circle

[snow forge]

Do I tell him

[forest mesa]

[snow forge]

Just try double sex

[forest mesa]

Sounds good

Mabey maunal control of aa range wil be fine

[snow forge]

Do you have UR AAS

[forest mesa]

No i have no electronics

Or ur prints for aa

[snow forge]

Oh well

Double sex prob will work

[forest mesa]

Let's see

[snow forge]

Similar to the comps I used back in the dark ages

[forest mesa]

The dark ages

[forest mesa]

This is with triple 410 and aa radar on mushahi

I wonder if fritz implace would be better

Cheeky spotted

[snow forge]

Idt you sent anything

[forest mesa]

Its uploadong

Slow speed

[forest mesa]

There it is

[median sundial]

here's the issues here

1. you're not clearing the pre boss mobs fast enough and so Amagi and Shinano's first airsrtikes are being wasted partially against mobs
2. you're taking too long to kill
   ideally the fight should be over by the 1:40 mark
   also using converging TBs without a slow ain't gonna end well

[forest mesa]

Should I play maunal and hold them till boss spawns and swap to bregut ?

Or swap a vanguard to a dps

[median sundial]

gimme one sec

[forest mesa]

Sure thing

[worldly ingot]

yeah we made it worse

[snow forge]

I forgot to point out the time

[median sundial]

ideally

I'd want Alsace instead of Musashi

and Nahkmov instead of Shinano but

Musashi may or may not want to drop the black shell for an AA radar

[forest mesa]

If z52 is in boss who do I use in mob unless I should clear it a first and then worry about s rank in boss

[median sundial]

eldridge

[forest mesa]

I already use eldrich in mob

[median sundial]

Shimanto, De Zeven, and Eldridge

[forest mesa]

Gotcha got some farming to do the. Thanks cheeky!!

Anroage can have hiden gun

[forest mesa]

just curious why Alscse i thought Mushai is like #1 BB fro boss and mob?

[median sundial]

Alsace can get off 2 salvos in the time it takes Musashi to get off one, ergo she's much better at clearing the pre boss mobs

[forest mesa]

Im assuming FDG and Vanguard are just Worse the Musahi

[median sundial]

Yes

[forest mesa]

DO i have to have that gun for Musahi

casue i dont own it

Only the Triple 410 Yellow one

For AP

[forest mesa]

What evre that gun is

[median sundial]

Daisen gun

from PR7

if you don't have it triple 410mm works

[forest mesa]

Got it!

[forest mesa]

I pulled aqulia from ww should I level her for anything

[median sundial]

still one of the best Musashi pairs

[shut spruce]

still stuck in w15-4 ?

if not just ignore her and be happy with 1 rld

[median sundial]

I don't see the harm in raising her still lol

I'm expecting W16 in a few months after all

[forest mesa]

Im still raising 1 ship

They are level 122

[forest mesa]

Mabey hinden burg will be useful

[snow forge]

she has like minimal contribution other than gun damage

[forest mesa]

So taking sandy out of mob does not work

So many more planes get thru

[median sundial]

uhhh

swap Sandy and Shimanto around I suppose then

[forest mesa]

Sandy also does 100k more total dmg in end screen calculations compared to shiam after some testing

[forest mesa]

Roger

Also I just realized that setup doesn't have air supremacy

[shut spruce]

welcome to how i did 15-4

[forest mesa]

On super carrier nodes bird does not perform well

Oops wrong thjng

[shut spruce]

it doesn't matter
u want to try and end the fight asap then recover in the normal nodes

[forest mesa]

I lost eldrich

[shut spruce]

yeah u want a tanky vanguard not a gacha one

i mean a consistent one

or u can try and reset until she gets out healthy enough

[forest mesa]

True

I could try leveling brest

She is level 78 dev 25

[shut spruce]

which aux on eld ?

[forest mesa]

Toolkit and headehog

[shut spruce]

that is bad

[forest mesa]

Its what was recommended

[shut spruce]

imo since she has an already mounted hedge put it on sandy

[forest mesa]

Also using bird instead of volga nuked my acv value by 400

[shut spruce]

hedge is a pure asw gear that doesn't contribute to her ehp while on the off tank position
when her skill is on cd she will just melt if she doesn't gacha dodge

[forest mesa]

I had to go back to haku amagi for air supremacy

[shut spruce]

is it because of the plane slot ?

[forest mesa]

Proabaly

[median sundial]

did you call subs in on the super CV nodes?

that is at this point probably the most practical solution

[forest mesa]

I forgot you can move subs

Let me try that

That is a moment

[forest mesa]

115 lion does more dmg then 125 vanguard

I did this for boss fleet

Hmm I might be able to reliable do boss mob boss

[forest mesa]

I didn't get thr first encounter with volga but why is the survival so differently I thought burd was better

Or is this just a big skill issue on my end

[shut spruce]

are u trolling ?

what is that purple tank

[forest mesa]

I don't have enough gold cat to go around

I can steal from support fleet

Not sure what the befont of swapping them around would do

Does combat fleet get priority over support fleet @shut spruce

[shut spruce]

which cats are u using ?

[forest mesa]

I ment golden catpults for cv

Phone autocorrect

I have mountain and flame cat on mob fleet thags l good

I also tried swapping a bunch of other ships around like Shima in mob and eldrich in boss swaping sandy Shima using volga etc

Boss fleet doesn't struggle anymore due to lion now.

[median sundial]

well Shima wasn't reeally going to help matters

why aren't you using subs again?

for these super CV nodes

[forest mesa]

I use aistrike on it

Saving subs for boss helped more usally

I can try swapping it around

[median sundial]

you do realize actually calling the subs in helps infinitely more right

you have 6 ammo for your subs

you can use them on the super CV nodes and the bosses

[shut spruce]

i think cheeky's point is the one
the most damage u ate was at the end of the fight
so basically u want to finish it asap
having flame is big but that isn't enough

raise aquila and use instead

[forest mesa]

I only worried about subs dying

[shut spruce]

isn't it better than musasi dying ?

[forest mesa]

Last time I used them 2 died

[median sundial]

time it so that they don't surface before the battle ends

[shut spruce]

i think the duration of the fight is a little bit long

[forest mesa]

I got Dasien gun

Is thay bettee

Better*

[median sundial]

it's a bit long but a minute isn't entirely unusual for W15

[forest mesa]

I just got that gun today

[median sundial]

however given your AA gun options

[median sundial]

no

okay

so at this point

it's not even about gear or ships

it's about tactics

[forest mesa]

Ill try 30 second delay to call subs

See if that's better

I have ur prints for ur aa just short 60 electronics

[median sundial]

call them right as the 2nd to last wave of mobs shows up

[forest mesa]

Okay ill time it there oh and should main fleets or support fleets have priority for golden catapults

[median sundial]

no

always your main fleet

though you should have enough right now for everyone

[forest mesa]

Im 2 short

[median sundial]

if not just open some more T4 and T5 tech boxes

[forest mesa]

I got 12

[shut spruce]

is roomba on zuihou the go to in this case ? looks a little bit weird to me

[forest mesa]

Oh lamo I forgot to swap that

I used it to 125 her

[shut spruce]

are u in a dire poverty to afford a spare staag ?

[forest mesa]

They are on my opsi fleets when I was leveling her

I just take Fdg's

[shut spruce]

[forest mesa]

Im also gonna swap cats around

Mob fleet has double moutian

Now

[shut spruce]

in the zuihou fight if it ended at 2:06 instead of 2:03 u will be 30% healthier than that
that is why subs to quickly finish it is pretty much mandatory

[forest mesa]

[shut spruce]

if u are still struggling after all this then just use the cheat code and call it a day