W15 gear priority

[forest mesa]

Current gear i have

Any advice on what to craft more of would be nice im at 14 4 will probably finish that tonight to start w15

[compact wind]

get 1-2 wyvern, get more 57mm, get 1-2 100kai

[forest mesa]

[forest mesa]

What is the 57mm?

I'm not familiar

With that gear

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uraa

[forest mesa]

Ohh

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Ins't a new UR aa coming on the 20th though?

[compact wind]

yes, should wait and see if it's better before crafting

[forest mesa]

Im not sure i have ur aa prints anyway

So I'm missing mainly UR gear the

Then*

[compact wind]

more than that

[forest mesa]

What non ur gear am. I missing

[compact wind]

flapjacks

ok nvm you got 3

should be enough ish

more would be good tho

[forest mesa]

And I have tiger cats

2 tiger 3 flapjacks

[compact wind]

severely lacking quad mags

i gtg back later LOL

[forest mesa]

Okay

@pine bay does he mean magnetic quads ?

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I believe so yeah

[forest mesa]

I can craft like 5 of them

Should I craft that many

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who the f is doggo dog

[forest mesa]

Oh

I tired pinging u

Lmao

[forest mesa]

Doggo do u run triple cv mob in w 15

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I didn't try it, but it sounds good when played manually

[compact wind]

open your ironblood t4 techbox

cheaper than using gear lab mats

[forest mesa]

Alright ill do that

~~ got none from opening them all ~~

[compact wind]

farm more and open more

[forest mesa]

Will do

[forest mesa]

One more question based on my current depot what carft besides my second wyvern once I get electronic is gonna help me the most

That uses gold matts

[compact wind]

idk probably UR AA or 100kai

[forest mesa]

How about another sextuple

Is budget aa alright

[compact wind]

at this point idk, go ask suchi or renhex

[forest mesa]

Thank you for the help so far

I just lack Ur matts

@hidden coyote can I borrow you will sextuples be fine instead of ur aa

Thank you.

[hidden coyote]

also dont craft any rainbows from gear lab until we see whats cooking in 2 days

[forest mesa]

Not even my second wyvern ?

[hidden coyote]

thats fine

[forest mesa]

[forest mesa]

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Gear

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oh u had 2

[forest mesa]

I have 2 wyvern but second one is +8

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why is it +8 ?

[forest mesa]

Plates

Shortage

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use a breguet instead

[forest mesa]

Yee

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did u open all the gold boxes for catapults ?

[forest mesa]

Yes

Uni has beacon on her

So all boss ships are full gold

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although if u are struggling with purple plane plates i think u are trying to prematurely do w15 but we will see

[forest mesa]

Mob gets cleared fine it's boss fleet that bites atm

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haku mamagi vanguard anchorage sandy cheshire ?

[forest mesa]

I can try that I'm using agir sand Cheshire atm

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agir in w15
who recommended u that ?

[forest mesa]

Uhhh

Cantcrember

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the tanks u can use in w15 are brest guam napoli anchorage
then for the DDs z52 and maybe eld laffey not sure on this

[forest mesa]

I can swap agir out for Anchorage

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so i think u are using z52 in the mob fleet so do anchorage in the boss yes

is haku fs5 ?

[forest mesa]

Yea

Haku is maxed in everything but levels she is 122 or 123

I can exp books her to 125

I have 1.2 k books

This is mob and support fleet atm

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take ur time if u want to use books u can but i don't think it is necessarily for w15 unless personal challenge

[forest mesa]

I get like 40 books a day

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are u setting the subs in hunt mode ?

[forest mesa]

Attack mode ye

Subs are low level

6% they take off is better then the support in fight

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in general u use them submerged so they keep their ammo

[forest mesa]

Subs are sub 100

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i m not sure if the hunt mode is better in ur situation but u know better

yeah subs are more prioritized to use books on

not haku

[forest mesa]

Wolf pack subs

Boss attempt 1 with haku

I did it

We won

[forest mesa]

Did u want the gear on my current ships and subs ?

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how far are u from shimanto

i think u are missing 1 aa carry

[forest mesa]

Uhhh

I'm on brest atm she needs last exp filled out

After brest I'm going to her

I can swap now if u think I should

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in ur current situation i think shimanto is more needed just for w15

[forest mesa]

I boosted them to 100

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where is u37 ?

[forest mesa]

We have subs at home

U37?

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she is the core

[forest mesa]

Oh don't have her

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k keep it like this for now

[forest mesa]

Put them to 105 that should do better then 90

[forest mesa]

Is harbin goodish at aa?

I'm leveling harbin

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no the budget aa carries are juneau and isuzu

k if the mob fleet succeeds in 15-2 then there might be hope

[forest mesa]

I'm swapping agir out for Anchorage correct?

Anro loadout

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how far are u from the beaver tag ?

[forest mesa]

I'm missing a ship i don't get

1 star

Lmao

Foote anulick

I have it now

~~ but it stops at + 6~~

Should I swap guns out on momo

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missing 1 ship in the vanguard line
that is the biggest issue right now

[forest mesa]

I didn't check her gear when putting her in

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oh i thought that was nana

k then this might work

[forest mesa]

Momo has decent aa stat but bad eff

Here

Vanguard ships

Help with confusion

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this is just for 15-2 if u see the weird loadout on vanguard

[forest mesa]

Ply gun on momo instead mushai ?

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imo 155mm should work fine it is the standard

also i don't see any good cl gun in ur depot

if u can make another pancake put it on mamagi

[forest mesa]

I ant out of electronics

Used them on second wyvern

I have 2 tiger cats

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if u want to use it then on mamagi but i think hellcat should be better overall

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remove the rpg from eld and replace with hedge

i forgot about it

[forest mesa]

Its removed

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yuni needs pancake and asw plane in the aux

put the +10 tenrai on mamagi

u can use the purple asw

[forest mesa]

Are there subs in 15 1 or starting after 15 1

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15-1 is a joke compared to the rest

as suchi said
it is the tutorial

[forest mesa]

Is the sap gun on eldrich fine to use

I don't have that gun yet

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make sure to put the staag on uni too

[forest mesa]

Oo is stagg actually good aa i thought it was used for the acc buff

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15-2 is the most cancerous boss in the game

that is why i put 2 evasion aux on vanguard

but probably overkill

u can replace the washing machine with the white shell if u want

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yeah it is an accelerator as u can see in the vanguard there are 3 roombas

[forest mesa]

Support fleets

Not the best but it's been working g

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why are u using reppuu on fritz

that is a garbo plane

[forest mesa]

Does it not have passive intercept ?

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it is garbage use messerchmitt at least if u are in a dire situation

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use tiger cat then

[forest mesa]

Tiger cats it is

[forest mesa]

Could the hvar hellcat work

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show me uni loadout again

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remove the cata for the asw plane

[forest mesa]

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also the staag plz

[forest mesa]

Its on

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what about the augment ?

[forest mesa]

Its maxed out now

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good

[forest mesa]

Are there subs in 15-1 i haven't noticed it so far

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put the cata from uni into volga

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even if there is u have good vanguard to kill them all

eld has a built in hedge

with another hedge she won't let any sub go through

and i think it is better to watch the screen to learn what is going on
so u can adapt and change stuff accordingly

[forest mesa]

Is the airstrip ability useful

Air strike

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carrier airstrikes clear the screen that is it

[forest mesa]

No i ment on map

Next to move ships

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useful mostly in opsi and meta showdown bossing since there are so many projectiles in there

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oh that is used mainly on the super CV node that u have to do at the start

if u are confident about ur mobbing fleet u can store it for the boss fight

or for the ooa node

that is why u need to watch and learn what is going on

[forest mesa]

I watch most mob fights to see what nodes are best

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when u have time screenshot the talents on the 4 cats that u are using

[forest mesa]

I'll do it now

I'm leveling bettee cats

Atm

Hold on im swaping bunny out for eagle

Unless main fleet aa + 10 is useful

I also have a cats thread will all my cats

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i saw the thread but if u don't show the talents no one will understand them since many have the same icons

for example this one

[forest mesa]

Ohh

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although it is minor the right talent can be 2 things

either pure rld or a mixture between rld and avi

the same goes for the rainbow talents

there are like 7 of them

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i don't know the exact number but u get the idea

yeah use that eagle in the mob fleet

what about these 2 ?

no need to screenshot one by one

just press on it and the talents will show up on the right

where u can enhance them

or reset

[forest mesa]

I do have a low level cat might be okay

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yeah they are unusable

[forest mesa]

They are only level 8

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well i advise to feed the bad bisha to a good bisha as a priority because feeding the same cat will not waste much experience

this oscar is 2000% better than that antenna

but low level is kinda bad too

[forest mesa]

The moutians tenacity is a baseline perk

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yeah i m a ⛰️ enjoyer so i will approve any mountain cat

[forest mesa]

I just got Oscar 3 days ago ish

So mabey in a week

He is level 15

Or so

[forest mesa]

Anchorage is dying fast

Re tried with better rng only sandy lived

But we won

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yeah i think u aren't using what i give u

but a won is a won iguess

[forest mesa]

OHH LMAO

I applied wrong gear

I applied my opsi loadout on mistake

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15-3 isn't as hard but u just use the standard loadout

[forest mesa]

I'm 15-1 still

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no the main difference was cheshire and jda

[forest mesa]

Ohh

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didn't u clear it earlier ?

[forest mesa]

Gotta win 2 more times

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oh

i forgor

[forest mesa]

That will take me like 10 mins

Now that i can constantly win it seems

Boss fleet is very much rng

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i hope that u have read this earlier

[forest mesa]

I did

That's why I didn't apply the asw

15 1 has no subs

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which fighter are u using on independence ?

[forest mesa]

Uhhh

Sea fang

🙂

Unless +10 purple corsair is better

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sea fang yeah it is better but still

put the mitter from indomi into her for now

[forest mesa]

Mitter?

Or a +6 hellcat or +6 merretch

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oh i meant messerchmitt i m bad with names

[forest mesa]

I only have 1 +10

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yeah use it on indep and the sea fang on indomi

[forest mesa]

What about skyrocket since it's eagle

I forgot about independence eff buff

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she is in the support fleet
only the fighter slots work

skyrocket is very fast

[forest mesa]

Its 160%

Now

Or does it not matter since support fleet

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that i don't know
the usual one u want to put on her is either hellcat or pancake since they are slow

[forest mesa]

Could put tiger

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i feel like the skyrocket speed is wasted on her but most likely it works so keep it like that

[forest mesa]

And put sky on fritz

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yeah use the tiger on her

[forest mesa]

Bet

1 more time I'm on 15 2

Pn 15 2 now

I'm swapping all my gear out then correct

[forest mesa]

Isn't eldrich better off tanking then z52 ?

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i don't know exactly their tanking capabilities TBH but u can test it
also the left slot is the main tank and not off tank i put nana as offtank there but u can put her in the middle

also 30 min left until maint

[forest mesa]

I ment main tanking

I'm sorry

[forest mesa]

Well I got 3 mob fights before amtince

So far 15 2 is looking good

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15 2 is looking good
shows 0%

lmaao

[forest mesa]

Sevee went down

I was in the middle.of a run

[forest mesa]

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did u put the gear i suggested for u above ?

the most important one is vanguard's

[forest mesa]

Yes

I did its going well

Server matinee cut me off

Mob is going well

No sub battles yet

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i meant this one specifically

[forest mesa]

Yes

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vanguard can wipe instantly
like from the time that u close ur eyes full hp the time u open ur eyes will be at 10%

[forest mesa]

The classic where did all my hp go

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15-2 is really on the extra level of this

[forest mesa]

Should I give vanguard the +12 washing machine and take that one off sandy

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no because u are praying for the passive skill to proc

[forest mesa]

Mob works in 15c2

[forest mesa]

Barely but it works !

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wait that was 15-2

but yeah the issue is always the boss

look very closely to the flagship hp

also u can spend oil to move the subs

if u want them to hunt

move them then keep moving until they reach their target

[forest mesa]

Yea that was 15-2

I'm about to do boss

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move the subs and don't forget the airstrike if u didn't use it

next run can u try to use eld in the tanking position ?

[forest mesa]

Eld was in main tank

You right i looked down at some paper work really quick and vanguard lost 70% hp to a barrage

Eld actually died i use machine free repair

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z52 is insanely strong as it seems

[forest mesa]

Idk z52 has less eva the eldrich

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she can heal herself

[forest mesa]

True ill try z52 nain tabk

Main tank

[forest mesa]

This is for 15 -3 when subs appear ?

I'll use this for 15 2 but replace asw with hp gesr

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if u are confident u can remove the asw from the vanguard but keep at least for example the aux in uni

15-3 is when the real chapter begins

and 15-4 is the ultimate test

[forest mesa]

When do subs appear in 15 2 the guid doesn't mention them till 15 3

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i forgot where they appear TBH

[forest mesa]

Guide says. 15 3

Unless sushi scamming

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usually u want to avoid the BB nodes as much as u can and leave a 2▲ when u are ooa

[forest mesa]

Yee I left 3 last time

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the key for success is nothing but
watch and adapt

[forest mesa]

I think with double ho aux on eldrich she shouldn't die this time

Hp*

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if u manage to do 15-3 i think it is a good spot to stop
i don't think the fleet u have can do 15-4 on auto but if u want to do it no matter what
then u can manual it but it requires a different skill

[forest mesa]

Z52 is main tank this time

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i did w15 without eld and z52 so i had to use hedge

i didn't try them out yet but as i said watch and adapt

if u think she is enough and uni for asw then u can put more hp on her

[forest mesa]

🫡

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if there are some subs not dying then u have to put a hedge somewhere

[forest mesa]

Well eld can have it if z52 tanks

[forest mesa]

With z52 tank

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no no no, eld should be offtank

eld is like more tanky than momo

[forest mesa]

Okay ill try that

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try it when u can get AS+

with AS without + u won't do it

[forest mesa]

Still worked

Haven't beat boss yet

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the boss should be doable but as i said earlier later do it when u get as+ for more ease

ur backline hp is at <5% as u can see

[forest mesa]

Vanguard lives easily

Haku and amagi are a different story

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still using cheshire and sandy ?

[forest mesa]

Jda

Sandy

The thingy u sent had jda sandy should I swap back

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if u can't beat it reset a few times

jda is better so the vanguards don't melt quickly but she has non existant aa

basically a trade of

the bigger issue is not having AS+

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see how momo is dying but eld is very healthy?

wait a minute

[forest mesa]

Idk

Eld has almost 300 evasion

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also did you have no other things other than momo

[forest mesa]

Here let me ss

@hushed inlet got kron that's it

And lala

But lala is

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wait where is your fleet again

[forest mesa]

Here

Left mob right boss

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is cheshire or kron not just better than momo?

[forest mesa]

Momo heals

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how much tho, you have volga uni already, + eldridge to buff the surv even more

[forest mesa]

Eva and heal buff

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nahh

I think you should try kron sandwiched between z52 and eld

[forest mesa]

And a 10% dr

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her ehp even with that is like 100% portland

[forest mesa]

So put momo in boss fleet then ?

Boss fleet need all the help atm

Mob fleet does all thr fights

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what problem do your boss fleet have again?

[forest mesa]

Back line nuked

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it's only fighting 1 battle right

[forest mesa]

Yes

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15-2?

[forest mesa]

BBV boss

Yes

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ofc la

[forest mesa]

Vanguard is only one that loves

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just quickly reset if got nuked

[forest mesa]

But vanguard has high ehp

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15-2 is notorious for nuking

[forest mesa]

I reset 5 times no luck

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try changing jda to something else

let's see

[forest mesa]

Jda to more aa ?

[hushed inlet]

you have aa problems too? not just BBV shelling?

[forest mesa]

I don't think I'm having aa issues

Mainly shelling

[hushed inlet]

try doing ancho sandy kron instead then, put momo back

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iirc jda buffs surv by like 40%ish, but you probably need more damage

also do you manual? you can delete the shellings quite easily

[forest mesa]

I can try maunal

[forest mesa]

Here is gear

For boss

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ur issue is not having AS+
i think i repeated this like 4 times now

[forest mesa]

i dont know what AS + is

sorry

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also took kit on anchorage is 🚮

it is either beaver tag or the torp buldge

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air supremacy
basically before u enter the map u check them on top
there are 2 bars u want to have them as close as the number they suggest

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ayo abdou

[forest mesa]

I have that

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yea use double eva on ancho

[forest mesa]

I swapped that on Anchorage

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i saw this pic and it had AS

[forest mesa]

Oh uni died on that run

Hmm so I need both volga and uni to live

This might get a lot harder

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looks like we need cheshire action in the mob fleet

also before doing it again
make ALL of the ships 125

exclude the subs

every 1 level counts very heavily

[forest mesa]

~~ subs on last fight do about 40K dmg total

They are good enough

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yeah subs are a cheese mechanic but if u did it right from the start we could have salvaged it

that and the cats

[forest mesa]

i was told to ignore subs

when i started

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if u want to delay the progress and work on the subs and cats the clear will be 2x much easier at least

ignoring subs reason is mostly because when we start we don't have good ones usually

personally i didn't have subs until 5 months into the game

and i started leveling them when i decided to do the speedrun challenge

took about 1 month

leveling the subs i mean

u can even do u37 in the war archive i think

[forest mesa]

hmm

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if the 20k merit seems heavy

[forest mesa]

20K merit would take me months to grind im at 900

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so for now u can do this small preparation
make all the ships 125
replace nana with cheshire

or jda
whichever u find needing more AA

the issue is that having 2 sexy will reduce the range massively

the bis for sandy and cheshire is sexy

[forest mesa]

i have only 1 Sexy

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then for now just 125
u are at ur maximum investment imo

u can't do anymore

[forest mesa]

sounds good ill do that

I might have a good RNG run atm I have a 1 Triangle node

for last fight

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it won't take much time only jda is 120
put her with cheshire and z23 in a farming team
if cheshire and z23 hit 125 u can reattempt it even if jda doesn't hit 125

her contribution is mostly for her skills

damage 0 is all aspects

[forest mesa]

JDA HAS a bit of Stored EXP

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yeah put them in the same fleet and farm with them for now

[forest mesa]

its only 837040

thats not even 2 levels

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even if they will do 15-2 they won't be able to do the rest of the chapter

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that should be more than 2 levels

[forest mesa]

Oh yea not UR

Im dumb

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even for an ur that is more than 2 levels

[forest mesa]

time to check

JDa is now 123

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also don't forget to put the good cats in the leveling fleets

a good justice can make a big difference than that trash antenna

[forest mesa]

OKAY

i got to boss fight with AS +

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doing is with underleveled ships no cats no subs
this is what i call a true challenge

[forest mesa]

There is cats!!

xD

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[forest mesa]

Oh i forogr to swap cats now boss fleet has Flams

[forest mesa]

Im the challenge champion

the cat is only level 20 compare to 29

but has flame

This one

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yeah u should have leveled the tempesta cats asap

[forest mesa]

its in cattery

with 2 others

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they have all the good talents

flame and mountain specifically

[forest mesa]

I have 3 moutian cats

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i only know the lvl 8 oscar

[forest mesa]

They are locked

Tempeta cats are the other 2

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yeah use them they are very good

[forest mesa]

Hey is that aa gun I have momo okay.

[forest mesa]

Nvm I awnsrrd it momo had a bad aa gun on and uni should live more now

Mom had this on and forgot to swap to roomba

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I legit did not notice that

[forest mesa]

No one did lmao

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Or did I, I could've sworn I told people to use roomba on eld +1

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i gave u the loadout then i scrolled down
i didn't see any momo gear

[forest mesa]

You gave me the list

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if u didn't copy it then it is ur own problem

[forest mesa]

It is

Me issue

This should help aa a lot now

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did u finish this month's opsi ?

[forest mesa]

Yes minus 2 strongholds

Out of ap

I hit auto search and fell asleep

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how can someone be in ap shortage in this game
even though i didn't do any funny stuff just doing the daily missions
i got 1.9k leftover ap

[forest mesa]

I did up to 50% of hard arbiter

I couldn't do more then that

Its okay though I have never been able to clear harbiter

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u have amagi and hakuryuu

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bro speedran w15

[forest mesa]

Yes i beat my goal of 15-1 before my one year of playing this game

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nice personal objective but beating the harbiter should have been way easier

[forest mesa]

Idk why I can't.

I'm also a little special so that could explain it all

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if u have time screenshot ur opsi fleets

[forest mesa]

Sure they might be cursed

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if they are cursed then u got ur answer to why i can't

do u have daisen gun from pr7 ?

[forest mesa]

No

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[forest mesa]

These are a month old

I didn't have z52 or fritz

I'm on pr5

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ur vanguards are scuffed that is it

do u have kazagumo ?

[forest mesa]

Yes but she is level 80ish

I got her last week

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should have been from may

when did u stop playing

i see that u missed so many ships

mainly soyuz alsace

[forest mesa]

I haven't since I started playing

I started at soyuz

No pulls

I ran out of cubes

For both

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did u commit for kron ?

[forest mesa]

No I got lucky

I had like 30 pull for that

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how did u run out of cubes then

[forest mesa]

I didn't know about having cubes till asleep event

Alsce

I didnt join discord for a while

About may

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i see

so very scuffed start

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Yeaa

I wish I knew more when I started

Im still pulling for this events bb I'm just short on gold but people are saying she might be worse then vanguard

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put the tempesta cats

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Level to low for air raid ?

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#1341239748999512187 message
linking it here because it is very far now

nani air raid

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That purple ship is budget air raid buff

Aikre

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aireka

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Sorry on phone auto correct

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then i don't know how to do this
u might need to be lucky with eld suriving

eld tank ara sirius

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Unless you think i don't need air raid

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no no air raid is good

uhh do you not have avp?

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I do

Fs5

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but who is the 3rd ijn that is the issue

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Level 120

Akira is ijn if use her I think

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oh

then problem is solved

if the first radar of helena wiffs reset the fight

don't make any singular change

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umm abdou

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since u are in pr5 craft a harbin gun

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nvm

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manjuu on mamagi because she is so fast ?

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btw cheshire do you have the skyraider

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oh he has it

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maybe sky saiun saiun?

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the question which is stronger
bf or skyraider

what about this

looks perfect i think

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I do

Skyraider is + 10

What gun is harbin gun

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the one on helena

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22 out of 25

Alsmot

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k use this and tell me how it went
at least 1 scan

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Almost*

I only have one sexy

Nvm i swap gear

In-between fleets

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yeah we don't have 3 improved quad either

or that SR manjuu

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that looks better already yeah

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what do u mean by 22 out of 25 ?

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22 out of 25 prints for that dd gun on helna

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use anything else then it doesn't matter much she won't do any damage

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how many rld do you have cheshire

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Reload tech let me see

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i think he doesn't have much

my guess is 9

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since amagi second slot can equip tb why not skyraider tb tb

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I got 8

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i don't know which is stronger so i went with the standard loadout

k sec lemme see wiki

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ignore the elixir, cata is fine

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I don't have majuin

I can get one i think

But it will be +6

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it needs like 3 saiun tho

what planes do you have?

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I think i have 3 let me see

I got 4

Planes

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alright then this should be pretty hot already

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do u have enough to buy the manjuu ?

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@hushed inlet @shut spruce i would like to say thank you for taking so much time to help me i greatly appreciate it. I know I'm not the brightest star

Yes

I do

I have 200 core left now

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wait a minute

what kind of meowficcer do you use?

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Uhhh

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Good ones trust

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like some of them has rld

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One is all cv reload

Like +14 I think

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and that could make torp miss

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Ohh

Uhh let me get numbers

One aex

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1. How many rld do you have from cats?
2. What kind of cat is equipped to the staff? (some cat like bisha and eagle has +RLD skill)

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I do have eagle

If I use ark

I can get another 12 reload

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alright just use the same setup

literally the same

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Souinds good

farming 12-1 really quick for some gold to upgrad Majuin

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i follow this

for vanguard

and what Doggo posted for main

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make the BB fleet do at least 55 bars

the CV fleet might be able to finish it off

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not to mention we have the best SAP gun

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i dont have gun yet

attempting now

bb fleet did 25 before sheild blocked the last barrage

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how many scans ?

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"3"

2 that did dmg

3rd scan came on sheild

im on a second try with 68 bars left

into CV

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you might need a third or fourth fleet if that's the case

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35 bars left

after CV

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just in case #1343284247527690342 message

the shield is dealt by the subs in most cases

they launch so many torpedoes and i think it is counted by hit numbers and not damage

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oh

Hmm

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but still i don't think it will kill
i thought harbiter should be easy with what u have

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well all 4 fleets leave iot with 15 HP bars left

The sheild is the reason it doesnt die

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well that was unfortunate

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its all good this did way better

then mine

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it's alright, not the rewards like significant

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the reason for it not dying is that u have a garbo 4th fleet
if u put haku enty yk2 it might have killed

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is yourk town 2 good 0LB

Skils are maxed expt for the yellow one at level 8

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unfortunate

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fritz then

fritz haku enty eld should have killed

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eld is being used

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where ?

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i need to wait on AP

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oh nvm

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z52 is tanking mob
agir is tanking bb

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eld is gone for sirius

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no need just skip

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95 AP

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there is like 8 hours left i think

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Would Raising Harbin to 125 help me at all she is at level 110

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Also Cheshire

I think you should start farming the event

and just ignore w15 for now

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i am

I have been farming event

doing like 10 D3 run + sp

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@hushed inlet should i trade AVI for EVA gear to help the CV's Live they are getting nuked at half hp

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nuked by what?

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15-2 Boss

My bad forgor to clarfiy

i also forgor dont have enough washing machines to go around

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that shouldn't be possible since usually ur BB get nuked first

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Vanguard is alive

last alive every time

ill clip it

Give me 5 mins

okay

I went to record and won

Usually vanguard has most hp left not sure why this run was different

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Shouuld i Put EVA aux on Haku since she gets nuked often>

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it seemed like your AA bad that you leaked some planes

prolly you have to manual this one out, you probably don't have what it takes to auto them without resetting a lot

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There is only 1 aa Acclerator in that fleet

not sure if that matters

Its on Vangaurd and mob fleet has 2

I also need Shima

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@hushed inlet should I try this to see if this lives better

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cheshire should be equipping a sectuple

that is a bad AA gun on her

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Out of electronics atm ill craft a second one Next monght

that or sandy gets a Roomba

CHeshire gets Sextuple

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oh damn then equip a roomba on ches

or like any AA gun with at least roomba level Alpha

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or i can do Borfors Budget gun

well

that loaduout worked

Ill swap the AA guns

I only used that shitty AA gun as an Acclerator

FDG is the only one in Boss fleet that is an Acclerator

Well i didnt Burn the Kitchen down

at least

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bad idea

u are accelerating nothing that is the issue

u only have cheshire there as an aa carry

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i know im Farming for SHinmotot now that Brest is done

im need Shima for 15-3 15 -4

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Hmm so just full roombas is better then, m

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most likely

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Could it has fater fire rate

Lower range trade off

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not sure about the quad bofor tech

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roomba better for ches

ches the highest damage dealer in the fleet, she should have the most alpha

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so acclerators go to lowest AA stat memebers then ?

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yes

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oo

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quad bofors can prolly go to ancho

or just no one

if you have enough roombas just use all roombas

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what bout the PR4 AA gun

thats on Anchroage

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that's better than quad bofors, comparable to roomba

expect the same results

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okay

My support fleet has some better planes in it

Not sure if I should swap planes around

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i have a STAGG on JDa i didnt event REalise this should i swap that

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nice

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Will i have to Change my Boss Fleet for 15-3

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We did it

i just need Headehog on Mob fleet and ASW plane on Uni and im good for ASW right?

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~~ what could possibly go wrong abdou ~~

so far mob handled first boss fine

That was easier than 15 2

Smh

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indeed 15-2 is aids we all know it

the true challenge is 15-4

and again i have no idea how far someone should get in gear and ships in order to do it TBH
i barely did it with cracked ships because of 1-2 fps performance but u seem like u are running consistently above 40 fps

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the game runs at like 40-60 fps just fine for me

I think im need better gear for mob fleet on 15-4

i plan on having mob fleeet double boss

my boss fleet is Terrible

i might do MBM or MMB

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I also don't know how i can beat most of w15 but lack the skill to beat harbiter

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w15 and harbiter use different ships

and gear

finish 15-3 first then we will see how to do 15-4

we might need the pros @worldly ingot help here too

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whats up

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Hello faerlin

What kind of gear does my mob fleet need to mmb

15 4

I cant do a good boss fleet

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oooh
I think that one is a bit hard
I personally did m b m

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we all did mbm

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I can try mbm

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the easiest one was mbb i think

or no

bmb

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u mean b m b

well let me know if u struggle

is there any big issue with current fleets?

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his mob fleet doesn't survive enough i think

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Okay this is my current setup

My mob lives fine in 15 3 so far

Pictures are loading

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i remember the mob fleet having survivability issues in the past

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Sometimes have to restart cause of muashi hp

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on the vanguard line too if i m not mistaken

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i remember suchi saying if u aren't using zui u shouldn't put z52 tanking but not sure about how u should do it in this fleet

do u have zui ?

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Who is zu

The bird?

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yes

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Yea level 1

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FdG is a bit oof but I guess if no better option

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use her imo

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Unless you want me to raise last event bb

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boss fleet should be whatever imo and using indep there should give better boost

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That means I don't get implace

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i think eldridge might be better main tank or off tank
so her skill works more often

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Z52 never dies in main tank atm

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maybe z52 tank eldridge offtank and sandy middle

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doing this with suboptimal all aspects is very hard

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abdou is a fan of indep

tbh she is very good yeah

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i wonder who made me that way

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I would also use her over haku
she also has x fleet for mob fleet

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he is clearing it without subs btw

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Level 110 subs

Bad gear subs

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was FdG the only other available UR BB?
or do u have NJ by any chance

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oh

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No nj

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vanguard

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Just vanguard

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hmmm honestly not sure she might be better

lets ask main gph

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u want as many xfleets

vanguard although her cross is garbo it is better than nothing

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neko recommends vanguard

and I kind agree

FdG single target dmg is not the best sadly

and the elites might be too much for her

vanguard AA also better than FdG iirc

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I used fdg to survive 15 2 boss

So we can swap

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also yeah raff is the superior choice here but yeah if u don't want to invest into her then u can do it like this

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if gear is fine this fleet can clear
just depends how well u pick targets and use submarines and reset fights

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imagine not going for dupes

this is what we came up with for w15-2

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why not make the asw plane in gear lab

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out of stuff

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looks solid
flapjack + breguest and tenrai is good dmg

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1 sexy too

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altho yeah mob AA might be too slow

I would mix a twin 90

or 2

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he changed nana for sandy

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but it is sushi anyway

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and sandy in boss for cheshire

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Might ve slow im at work atm

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np
try your best and come back if struggle

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the issue is if we are going to use indep in boss
which 3rd ship we should use in the support fleet ?

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what options are there

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this is his gear #1341239748999512187 message

his dock was in another thread

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well there are perma options
lusty class
hwah jah
chen hai

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k i found something a little bit outdated but should do #1335128224275103765 message

he is using indomi indep fritz

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hmmm why not fritz for the boss fleet

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another one #1343284247527690342 message

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honestly I dont see any other option

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i thought about fritz but again boss fleet should be the nerfed one if mbm

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if ykii is raised and mlb maybe

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so he can first try with volga then if it is near impossible it is better to use zui ?

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possible
I am not sure about the zui vs volga for z52
like zuihou should be better but I think she has less dmg than volga

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also he is using 2 DDs not only 1

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Yorktown is 120 0 lb

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why spank me now

he is literally in bulin poverty

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More up to date

Thing here in a swcond

I have enough bullins to mlb 1 ur ship

But implace reruns

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look at this

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There up to date levels and ships

I will re appear when work slows down

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well current fleets are fine

if boss struggles replace haku with indep/fritz

and replace them with lusty in support fleet

or if u can just level lusty to 120 then try with indep/fritz in boss
indep especially should help mob a lot with her x fleet

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and make indep lvl 125

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I'm leveling lusty as fast as I can im using efficiency books

Let me see if independence has the exp stored

Nope

She doesn't have the exp store would have to grind

Same with fritz

Fritz is at 0 stored exp i booked her

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use fritz indep and lusty in ur farming fleet in the next event

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I do have 900 books atm

I'll farm first the. Use the.

Them*

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books are used for other things

not lvl 125

i used 3k books to get 1 rld on BB and 1 rld on CV

i don't want to level elite meta ships

BB rld

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Has faerlin

Seen the gear i use on ships ?

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yeah I saw sth abdou posted

it was not all bad

could be improved but I think it will work

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Anything I should +13 posting gold plates

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no rush yet

finish ch15

then we can discuss arbiter and +13 gear

or if u want we can discuss arbiter now but pls post vanguard and backline again

and more ships not just first page

we need to find 4 fleets

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Ch 15 first

+13 not needed for 15?

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not really

it can help for certain things

but I wouldnt say it is necessary