14-3

[plucky sand]

Fleets mainly.boss barely lived on 14 2

[hardy crow]

send fleet

[hardy crow]

you say boss doesnt live?

[plucky sand]

It's a gamble

[hardy crow]

what gear are they running

it should be able to live

[plucky sand]

I was told 14 -3 is harder and 14-2 was not that great

[hardy crow]

first off, use a fcr for sashi

[hardy crow]

14-3 is infact much harder

also whos dying

the vangaurd gear looks ok
other than eld, whos entire setup looks questionable

[plucky sand]

Flagship

Mushai

[hardy crow]

amagi cvs setup also sus

maybe run another helldiver

you want the aoe dmg

[plucky sand]

Is there heavy armor

In14 3

[hardy crow]

boss no

[plucky sand]

~~ sky raider mabey ~~

[hardy crow]

too slow

no aoe

at least use this for eld

[plucky sand]

I can do that

For mob. I tried doing a mob fight

Nana got nuked in first battle

Do I need hedgehog on her

Or swapcto z23

Instead

[hardy crow]

z23 is much worse

[plucky sand]

~~ ignore volga aux~~ plate shortage

[hardy crow]

@hardy cradle
pls help

[plucky sand]

Oh man

[hardy crow]

lets eee

yes you absolutely need asw in mob

infact id say put eld in mob

[plucky sand]

Swap eld and Nana?

[hardy cradle]

hi

[hardy crow]

yes, and eld off tank

[hardy cradle]

ender desu

whats gg on

[plucky sand]

Uhh 14 3 shenigans

[hardy cradle]

oh what the hell is that agir gear

[hardy crow]

figuring out how to do 1403

[hardy cradle]

what toolbox + bulge

[hardy crow]

wheres your beaver

tag

for boss

[hardy cradle]

ok wait so whats dying here

[plucky sand]

Beaver uhh do have it ?

[hardy cradle]

mob with fdg?

or boss

[plucky sand]

Mob

And boss was sketchy from 14 2

[hardy crow]

i thought you said boss

[plucky sand]

Both

I attempted to do mob fights but Nana got nuked

I'm doing something very wrong

[hardy cradle]

these right

[plucky sand]

Yes.

Currently what is on the formation

[hardy cradle]

asw is one major issue

i think that was brought up

so uni will want an asw plane

[hardy cradle]

nana or someone would want a hedgehog

[plucky sand]

I have some spare ship if we need to swap around

[hardy cradle]

what is nana dying to exactly

[plucky sand]

I think subs

First fight killed her

[hardy cradle]

oh

ok so for w14

there are 2-3 major threats

1 is subs on -3/4

another is suicide boats

and the last

[plucky sand]

Let me check something

[hardy cradle]

is enemy BBs

your current comp currently is weakest against BB nodes

that entire frontline shreds light armour

but only has the CVs to deal with heavy

so my guess

would be that due to this

[hardy cradle]

battle drags too long

[plucky sand]

From one fight after headghog

Yea they are going on to long

[hardy cradle]

so swap time

i would prolly drop nana

since sandy can asw carry

[plucky sand]

Okay jda instead ?

[hardy cradle]

eld to mob

jda to boss

ig

but like

you have no other DDs?

[plucky sand]

Z52 is sti

[hardy cradle]

do you have any torp oriented DDs or CLs or CAs raised?

[plucky sand]

Dd and cl ca

[hardy cradle]

hmm

[plucky sand]

Momo might work

Mabey

[hardy cradle]

wait

agir on mob?
then she shd be carrying box rudder

ignore the bulge imo

use nana and eld

[plucky sand]

I'll swap to washing

[hardy cradle]

fdg's barrage shd deal with light armour well

nana is somehow your best torper outside z52

and even z52 relies on her aoa for her torps

the alternative

is you make no change to your comps and instead change which enemies you target

namely focusing on carrier and recon nodes

which means you need to pile the ASW

also

please use DB for amagi on slot 2

[plucky sand]

I shaped that

Swaped

[hardy cradle]

and

please use +10 gear......

you shd not be povertying with purple catapults at this point

bruh

[plucky sand]

I'll just give her a maxed beacon

For now

[hardy cradle]

beacon to uni

the 2 gold cata to volga

you want to desync them as much as possible

[plucky sand]

Got it

Done

[hardy cradle]

sorry edited

so uni shd be beacon + asw

volga 2 gold cata

[plucky sand]

For eldrich

[hardy cradle]

doesnt really matter since eld's torps are ass

changing these wont solve the issue

[plucky sand]

Got it

[hardy cradle]

i mean what you choose to do depends on you

if you rather stick with the current comps

change the enemies you target

i think you shd try that first instead of editing the team comps substantially

i personally used 2 CL 1 DD for 14-3 and 14-4

[plucky sand]

Asw plane goes to uni or volga

Would giving one of thr BB plygun help or hurt against boats

I have one Plymouth gun

To my understanding 155 kai is bis for w14

[hardy cradle]

volga is a CV not CVL

she cant use ASW planes nor has an ASW stat

[plucky sand]

To uni

Then

[plucky sand]

Are subs also in boss fight ?

[hardy cradle]

no

that's why i personally used eld in mob

[plucky sand]

So sandy kron ancroage work for vanguard in boss

[hardy cradle]

frankly

why are you using agir in mob and not kron anyways

[plucky sand]

Agir is higher level

That's only

Reason

Is it better of i swapped them ?

[hardy cradle]

guam and brest are usually the best CB tanks for w14

for 2 reasons

1 is med armour, so they take less from torps ignoring the need for a bulge

2 is they actually have strong secondaries

agir doesnt have secondaries

also

if agir is higher level

all the more you shd use her on boss

because boss needs more tanking

kron has strong secondaries like guam and brest

i would recommend swapping agir and kron

[plucky sand]

Done

[hardy cradle]

and pretty sure that only 14-2 had a torp spammy boss in w14 anyways

[plucky sand]

Also should mushshi or fdg have Plymouth gun

[hardy cradle]

all the other bosses are med or heavy iirc

sushi

since bosser

[plucky sand]

After tweaking this is what it is atm

[hardy cradle]

swap hedgehog to eld

eld is tanky enough as is

[plucky sand]

Oo will do if this fails

3 mob fights in its going okayxso far

[hardy cradle]

your fleet shd prolly avoid BB nodes

if you need to handle them, pls do them with ammo

[plucky sand]

They are the big ones correct ?

[hardy cradle]

aye

the dark coloured ones

[plucky sand]

On to boss fight

Thank you although I'm not sure if damage taken is normal

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