Xeno (Da Newbie)

[reef saddle]

can you show me the requirements of 3-4 hm?

while you're at it

[dark hill]

it needs cv

[reef saddle]

I see. Do you have exp packs?

[warm loom]

Sadly no

[reef saddle]

well

joffree is definitely stronger than graf zep, but grafzep provide better faction tech

[warm loom]

Do I need faction tech early on?

If not then I can just use Joffre

[reef saddle]

it's not like joffree is much stronger than grafzep early on

exp is very scarce too, u don't want to level a ship that doesn't contribute to your progress

I suggest rn. just leave grafzep as it is

[warm loom]

Should I show my equipment?

[reef saddle]

in the meantime, grind event with veneto nelson unicorn portland helena laffey

those are the 6 ships that gonna be your main fleet, those are gonna carry you all the way to chapter 11

[warm loom]

Owh

[reef saddle]

just level grafzep passively in dorm

you don't really need another CV until you make 2 fleets

[dark hill]

they might run into acv/reconissue

[reef saddle]

acv is fine tbh, recon issue

those BB will be a powerhouse with +10 mk6 to the point acv on't even matter

the recon value though, idk what I should do about it, not too familiar

what event chapter are you on right now?

@warm loom

[dark hill]

avi and eva

and ambushes suck so you want recon

its why typical campaign advice is 1 bb 2 cv

[warm loom]

Sorry-

I'm in school so I can't use my phone alot

[warm loom]

I'm trying to beat b-3 rn (cuz I can't do hard mode because of level cap)

[reef saddle]

good, b3 good

you will be spending your time there

[viscid nexus]

no worries with 44 pulls from event i assume u can at least get something

probably

[dark hill]

not 44 for newbie

[reef saddle]

you got the ykII already, it doesn't matter much

[viscid nexus]

mb

i forgot

[dark hill]

cos a couple from sp

[reef saddle]

oh yea newb not 44

[viscid nexus]

probs arnd 30?

4K OIL INCOMING

2 MIN

[reef saddle]

your next task gonna be grinding b3 until you got at least skyraider and 25 hvar prints

[dark hill]

30-40 depending on their shop capability and also if they began before event start

but also skyraider > ticket imo

[reef saddle]

and maybe hornet and the ticket

[warm loom]

Should I use Nelson Or Zeppelin in the event?

[reef saddle]

good question

[viscid nexus]

ngl

maybe u can do random bs go

[warm loom]

Also Should I LB VV or Zeppelin?

[dark hill]

vv

[reef saddle]

definitely VV first since she is a BB

[warm loom]

Aight

[viscid nexus]

focus on unicorn

makes ur life easier

i did not have uni retro only after few years of playing

[reef saddle]

idk what to do tbh, nelson or grafzep hhh

[viscid nexus]

(played 1 year, quit few years)

[reef saddle]

you should ask for help in the main chat

[warm loom]

I'm trying

[reef saddle]

I am about to log off, but I recommend doing nelson over graf zepelin as much as you can since she is your stronger ship and will make your B3 a lot easier

[dark hill]

but do they have two mk6

[reef saddle]

iirc they should be

or maybe I'm seeing things

[dark hill]

id take nelson anyway tho

cos cheaper and tankier

them subs hurt

[reef saddle]

haha I still remember

[warm loom]

I 5 stared VV

[dark hill]

oh

then definitely nelson nice

[reef saddle]

yeah you know what, just keep using nelson until you can't because of recon value or requirement or some other thing

[warm loom]

My nelson

[reef saddle]

wait also

nvm

[warm loom]

Not plane?

[dark hill]

might be too late in the event to

[reef saddle]

no no nvm me, you have 2 BBs with good guns, they're gonna carry

and then vanguard level looks high enough that they'll survive B3 just fine

[warm loom]

Nelson in the middle right?

[viscid nexus]

gl on ur al journey

[reef saddle]

your priority should be skyraider > build ticket > hvar prints > tech box = hornet II

[viscid nexus]

you can take it slow or just tryhard everyday

[reef saddle]

and then after that just follow the pins' priority

[dark hill]

they have yk2 tho

would do hvar over build tickets.. can they get the milestone ones tho

[reef saddle]

but u said build ticket before you little

[viscid nexus]

milestones have prints?

[reef saddle]

skyraider > build ticket = hvar prints > tech box = hornet II

[reef saddle]

yes but not enough

[viscid nexus]

mb

i never claim my milestones until last day

[warm loom]

Guh.. My Portland Is Almost on Life Support and it's only been 3 fights-

[reef saddle]

try swapping around the stuffs

[warm loom]

...

SHE WAS 2 HP BARS AWAY FROM DYING-

Smh

[viscid nexus]

if u rly want

[warm loom]

My vanguard got cooked

[viscid nexus]

theres a free repair everyday

but once only

take ur time

[warm loom]

I used it already

[viscid nexus]

some stuff is not rushable

[warm loom]

On the boss battle

[viscid nexus]

oof

[warm loom]

I was so close

[viscid nexus]

unless u know what ur doing

[warm loom]

Maybe I shouldn't had putted Laffey on the left

[viscid nexus]

maybe sometimes not to focus on clearing everything

my first goal in this game

is to oath laffey 🙂

thats what i did and only what i did

[warm loom]

Should I oath her?

[viscid nexus]

yeah maybe u can tweak around

[viscid nexus]

some ppl oath for stats

but i oath cuz i like her

thats the only reason

waifu game

[viscid nexus]

middle is normally for glassies no?

[dark hill]

laffey is prolly tankier atm

level advantage and pre retro portland really isnt all that

smh

mebot added portland with evatech, alltech, hptech

but no pre-retro portland

[viscid nexus]

im trying to find the laffey plushie

[warm loom]

Is this good? (This is the best I have on them-}

[worthy pivot]

Do you have a parallel TB for unicorn, like a barracuda?

[warm loom]

I'll check rq

Nope

[worthy pivot]

Laffey's aux are pretty bad, she wants survivability. Dual toolbox if you can. No need for the ASW on Helena, give her a toolbox too. Nelson should have a CL gun for her secondary, not a DD if you have one. No need for survivability aux on main fleet, so give them white shells and fire control radar if you can.

[warm loom]

And that's my only purple TB

[warm loom]

I see, I'll try and do that

[warm loom]

Besides my Purple toolbox on Portland, I only have greys left

[worthy pivot]

Purple version of this stuff is what you want to go for on Nelson, moving to white and black shells when you can

Same for VV

[warm loom]

This is mostly all my Gears

I just don't have enough yet

[worthy pivot]

Give Laffey that twin 120, it should be better than what she has now.

[warm loom]

Aight

[worthy pivot]

Make sure you're turning all your white and blue boxes into purples and opening those as well

[warm loom]

I am

[warm loom]

Xeno (Da Newbie)

[warm loom]

This is Both All My Ships And Gear

[warm loom]

Should I change my gear?

[untold pawn]

It's pretty obvious to use the purple aa for example...

why is there a depth charge on laffey when you have a hedgehog...

portland secondary is very sus

[warm loom]

This is my anti-airs

[untold pawn]

vv aux is very sus. nelson is the bad sucky ship not vv

[untold pawn]

the first two are literrally your best aa guns. use them

3rd one blows and 4th is cope

[warm loom]

On who?

Uni and Laffey?

[untold pawn]

portland and helena

but doesn't matter too much. all your ships are kind of lousy at aa

[warm loom]

Quad to Helena and Twin 40 for Portland (that's what I'll give em)

[untold pawn]

wait why is there a depth charge on helena also. 🚮 don't really trash it but don't ever use it unless you know what you are doing

[warm loom]

I changed sum stuff

[untold pawn]

why do you have 0 +7 gear?

you must have some purple parts by now?

[untold pawn]

vv looks nice

[warm loom]

?

What should I +7?

[untold pawn]

vv's gun, uni's plane, laffey's torp is considered underwhelming. go back to quint mag

[warm loom]

What can I change here?

[warm loom]

It's for helena

[untold pawn]

hydraulic steering+ toolbox

[warm loom]

Are you talking about the fighter or the torp Bomber?

[untold pawn]

fighter? ideally helldiver but you have no carriers...

[warm loom]

First one is for the fighter, and 2nd pic is the torp bombers

This is the guns I can use for VV

And the torps I can use for Laffey

[untold pawn]

just leave torps alone. nothing you can do

[warm loom]

Aight

[untold pawn]

same with aa. nothing good so nothing +7

[warm loom]

I'll probably only invest in +7 if their good, I'll probably only stop at +6 if their not that good but it's the best I have

[untold pawn]

or even +4 or +0

[warm loom]

How about for VV and Uni?

Should I use the quadruple for VV?

[untold pawn]

the purple? no

i can tell you that octo pompoms are one of the worst aa in the game and should only be wished on your enemies

[warm loom]

I really need to get Gold Gears..

[untold pawn]

it's day 6 or whatever. just keep opening boxes

[warm loom]

I'll switch Helena's AA Then

[warm loom]

Well day 9 today, so..

[warm loom]

Wait I already did

Lmao

[untold pawn]

farm event more and buy more gold boxes heh

[warm loom]

Portland should have A lot of HP right?

[untold pawn]

portland needs eva. she already has a lot of hp

[warm loom]

Aight

[warm loom]

Also for Helena, she needs toolboxes right? Should I use a grey one (cuz I have spare) or take the one Portland is using?

[untold pawn]

take portland. give porland snowglobe

[warm loom]

The New Stuff

[untold pawn]

toolbox laffey...

[warm loom]

I don't have anymore purple toolboxes..

Nelson and Helena are using it

[untold pawn]

nelson doesn't need one

[warm loom]

I only have greys

Alright then

Replace the auto loader or hedgehog?

[untold pawn]

autoloader

you can give it to nelson or something

[warm loom]

Alright

[untold pawn]

need to fix portland's secondary

it's terrible

purple twin 120 is okay

[warm loom]

Anything here?

[warm loom]

Also my retrofits on Uni

[untold pawn]

keep checking guild shop also

you can 3* 3-4H and 4-4H for a few

[warm loom]

Should I retro Portland too?

My retros on Portland

[untold pawn]

do more commissions?

[warm loom]

New things

[warm loom]

Waiting for another day

[untold pawn]

so uhh start enhancing the good stuff

[warm loom]

Ah i was thinking about Hardmode and other stuff

I'll probably just chill and farm

Anyways I'll just continue to farm b-3 auto to get 8k for Horny 2

[woven ice]

max upgrade the naval camouflage and the hyraulic steer

[warm loom]

Aight

[warm loom]

But they're only blues

Will +6 be fine? I don't have enough purples to make it higher

[dark hill]

imo yes. i never +7 those and i did fine

[woven ice]

yes

[warm loom]

I +6 both of em

[woven ice]

how far can u push this plane upgrade ?

[warm loom]

I need the mats for the retro upgrades on uni.. But should I focus on gear?

But I can only get it to +8

[woven ice]

most of the time gear has a linear curve

[warm loom]

If I bought it

[woven ice]

or almost linear

one more issue is that yk2 is very underleveled

[warm loom]

Meh I don't even have enough gold retro blueprints yet, and I can farm some more to get the purple aircraft pieces so ima +8 the helldiver

[woven ice]

do u know how levels impact damage and survivability ?

[warm loom]

Mhm

[woven ice]

tell me

[warm loom]

But she doesn't die during the boss fight, and she deals okay-ish Dmg

And I'm trying to level her up anyways for MLB and for use

And for Aquila, I'll probably just use her in fleet 2 (when I have enough gear to do so)

[woven ice]

[warm loom]

Uh, Higher levels mean Higher Hp and stats

[woven ice]

that is true but that is not all of it

u are missing a critical information here

[warm loom]

Dmg reduction?

[woven ice]

yes

and amplification

[warm loom]

I'll try the boss fight with my Nelson rq Brb

[woven ice]

wait a second

let me explain this to u then we need to enhance some stuff

[warm loom]

Aight

[woven ice]

for each level difference in the positive domain u gain +2% damage reduction and damage amplification up to 50%

and in the negative domain i m not sure about it

but i think it goes backward until -50% damage dealt

[warm loom]

It's probably the opposite of the positive domain

[woven ice]

most likely

that is why yk2 there is doing -46%

if u add the lb2 then it is doing -70%

mlb gives all slots +1 plane that is why

this is yk2 at mlb

at lb2 u remove 1 from each slot

so 1 3 2

[warm loom]

Why the hell did this not beat Auto.. But my Uni VV and Yk2 did.. Smh

My Nelson is even built

[woven ice]

u didn't show the damage result

[warm loom]

Let me do it with Yk2 rq and ima see

[woven ice]

nelson isn't retrofit right ?

[warm loom]

I don't have any retros rn

[woven ice]

then yeah leave her in a corner for now

let's focus on unicorn and yk2

how far can u push the tenzan on unicorn ?

[warm loom]

probably+6 for now or +7

[woven ice]

that should be a lot better

then how far can u push the steam catapults ?

u are missing 1 for yk2

[warm loom]

Wtf, HOW-

HOW DID THIS WIN?!

Smh

[warm loom]

I don't have anymore sadly, Uni is using it and it's a blue

[woven ice]

yeah looks at the poor damage of yk2

u win because of helena's chances TBH

[warm loom]

I'm surprised that Portland even survived cuz she was literally one hit

[woven ice]

which aux are u using on port ?

aside from the naval

[warm loom]

The snow globe

But this is the stuff she can equip

[woven ice]

give her the repair tool kit of yk

[warm loom]

Oh wait yk2 already has a steam cata

[woven ice]

remove yk2 for nelson

that damage was very bad

upgrade the steam cata on unicorn

remove the hedge from laffey and give her another toolkit

which aux do u have on nelson ?

[warm loom]

This

But she can equip this

[woven ice]

fire control instead of the fire suppressor

[warm loom]

Also I +6 the tenzan on Uni

[woven ice]

yeah that should be enough
does the boss move a lot ?

or stationary ?

[warm loom]

Kinda, and my Torps on Uni keep missing sometimes

[warm loom]

Also I upgraded the Fire control to +4, cuz I ran out of blue mats

[woven ice]

u don't have that much of a choice u just

what about the main gun on nelson ?

[warm loom]

Lemme try

[warm loom]

The purple uh.. It's the best purple gun on her

[woven ice]

yeah i meant upgrading wise

can u +7

[warm loom]

+6

Lemme try

[woven ice]

[warm loom]

I can auto the Hardmode boss.. Not that easily but easier than before

[woven ice]

u should know that
levels gear and skill levels are very important

so there is always room of improvement

until u hit +10 on gears and skills and 125 levels

that is when some risky manoevers comes in handy

[woven ice]

where are u now in the campaign ?

[warm loom]

Completed world 6,im just getting more levels to hit 50 and do world 7

[woven ice]

k

one of the most important tasks to do is to try and complete chapter 4 in opsi story

before the monthly reset

this will allow u to use the new opsi compact shop

[warm loom]

I'm 11 levels away from that-

[woven ice]

possible i think

just keep getting S

getting A gives u less commander exp

[warm loom]

All my ships

[untold pawn]

hey

[warm loom]

This is what I'm using rn

[untold pawn]

and you're using vv uni yorkii portland helena laffii and portland dies on auto?

[warm loom]

Mhm

[warm loom]

Should I send her build?

[untold pawn]

portland? sure

if that's not what you are using then what is? Nelson is your only other choice

[warm loom]

Here

[warm loom]

I'll test using Nelson again later

[untold pawn]

nelson sucks...

[warm loom]

MLB yk2 better?

Even though Nelson is 13 levels higher?

[untold pawn]

the only thing that might be in nelson's favor is she is easier to gear. only needs one main gun to do damage but your yorkii is usable gear wise

[untold pawn]

maybe a random blue aug lying around but not much you can do here

so how long does the raid fight last?

[warm loom]

Wait

I tested with Nelson and it gets to 1 minute and 40 seconds left, ima try with Yk2 (Also Portland sometimes survives but with bearly enough hp)

[untold pawn]

depends did you get lucky and big7 triggered 3 times? but it's pretty clear from that that uni does no damage

enhance portland's main gun

you can try nelson vv yorkii. again you can quit before boss dies if you don't like the result

[warm loom]

I Beated it with 1 minute and 50 seconds left, also There's a level difference right? The lower the lvl of the ship against enemies the lower Dmg they'll deal, and if they're higher level than the enemy the higher Dmg they'll deal

[untold pawn]

yes

2% per level

[warm loom]

Even with the level difference my Yk2 dealt more Dmg even if it's only a 1k difference

[untold pawn]

ur good, uni bad...

[warm loom]

And that's her at lvl 74, if she's the same lvl as Nelson then she would be doing a lot more Dmg-

[untold pawn]

you know before retro no one used uni because she's the worst healer...

[warm loom]

Oof

Well I'm close to retro anyways

Like 4 more BP's and I can get her

But I'll use Vv Nelson and Yk2 rq

It did worse-

Uni heal was needed

[untold pawn]

nelson is in the wrong spot but yeah uni is doing something

how long was that btw?

[warm loom]

1:20 left-

[untold pawn]

yikes yeah that's the worst comp

what is VV's gun?

[warm loom]

Best purp

[untold pawn]

+10?

[warm loom]

Only +8 cuz low on mats and money

I can enhance it but I'll be broke in cash (Getting Yk2 MLB made me broke-)

[untold pawn]

+10 vv main gun, +6 portland's main gun, +10 yorkii's helldiver. that's where you're going to find damage to get consistent s-rank. if you can shorten the fight by a cycle or 20 seconds that should be all the time portland needs

[warm loom]

Also should i switch the AA Gun?

[untold pawn]

of the purple guns you have laffey's is actively hurting you

the rest of the purple are usable

[warm loom]

I have 84 gold

I also upgraded the purple Aviation tank

Only once tho

[warm loom]

I see

[warm loom]

Should I use the twin 40mn then?

Can't upgrade it so it's somewhat worse

[untold pawn]

range matters

twin 20 is actively hurting you

it makes your aa circle so small you can't hit any planes

[warm loom]

So that's better?

[untold pawn]

If you open gear properties you can see the range

[warm loom]

Where?

[untold pawn]

In that picture tap gear properties

You need to skill vv...

[warm loom]

What skill?

[untold pawn]

Whichever one her barrage is on

[warm loom]

Aight

Her first red skill then

[untold pawn]

Yes 1

[warm loom]

These two are in there tho

[untold pawn]

Imo you should shelve uni and laffey skills. It's opportunity cost. You could spend a week on uni for 1%! more healing or have vv and yorkii do 25% more damage.

[warm loom]

Should I craft this?

[untold pawn]

It's nice but are you under aa pressure? If not just chill on aa. Aa isn't going to kill enemies faster

[warm loom]

After they're done I'll do VV and Yk2 (Cuz I do need skill Xp for the Exam Quests so I can get Enty [Waifu] or unless I get her from medal)

[warm loom]

Alright then

Should I craft stuff or nah?

Tomorrow I'll just grind PP For More Xp Cuz My Team Is Kinda Underleveled (for the event not the Campaign cuz my team are way too over leveled, Well not Yk2 But Meh)

[untold pawn]

BTW the other thing you can try to stabilize portland is to +7 the camo. But we're talking like a 1% increase in s-rank rate

[woven ice]

trying to speed run to her evasion node in the retro tree is a good idea too right ?

[untold pawn]

Sure basically more Eva to survive for 70s

[warm loom]

I probably just need more Dmg really, Cuz if I kill it faster then Portland won't die

[woven ice]

[warm loom]

Or just lvl Portland more

[untold pawn]

Both ways work and will help

[warm loom]

Cuz she's the lowest lvl vanguard I have

Also should I farm 5-4? (Hardmode)

Or 3* clear world 6 and 3* 6-4hm?

[woven ice]

3☆ and farm wa imo

don't 3☆ wa

[warm loom]

Wa?

[woven ice]

war archive

[warm loom]

I 3 starred PP sp5.. Is that a bad thing?

[woven ice]

u will need at some near point divergent chessboard to get enough tech points for fdg

[woven ice]

it is an unnecessary thing

[warm loom]

I don't have enough TP for D1 of Dc

[woven ice]

start thinking about it when u reach w9

[warm loom]

I'm still only lvl 50, even if I clear w7 rn I still need to wait some more

[woven ice]

do u know what helena does ?

[warm loom]

Makes the enemies take more Dmg?

[woven ice]

it is a chance to apply a debuff

[warm loom]

E

[woven ice]

this will raise inconsistencies

[warm loom]

So?

[untold pawn]

one minute

[warm loom]

Do I need to swap her out or increase her skill level?

[woven ice]

for more accuracy when u want to compare 2 comps
u need to count how many scan activations happened per fight

logically u can't say a 0 activation comp was worse than a 3 activations comp just by switching ships

[untold pawn]

so does this look doable?

[woven ice]

it is either u remove helena from the comp or u count the number of activations

can laffey reach 800 by herself

[warm loom]

If I use two fleets yeh, but if only 1? Nah

[woven ice]

i know ayanami can do it

[warm loom]

I don't think I have her, what's her rarity and class?

[warm loom]

Or I do idk

[woven ice]

the issue is that u are missing some gear

[warm loom]

What's her rarity and class?

[woven ice]

u don't access to her because u play the global version only jp can get her

[untold pawn]

will scrubs drag your level under 70?

[warm loom]

I think so? Unless I use high level scrubs

[untold pawn]

DC D1 isn't that different...

[warm loom]

Damn

Who should I use here?

-# Also if I don't respond that probably means I'm asleep already

[warm loom]

I'm lvling Aquila with the dorm but it takes too long, and I domt have enough aircrafts for her

[untold pawn]

weird some ships disappeared

what happened to the ams and lusty dupes?

[warm loom]

They were dupes.. And people said if I don't use them I should retire them..

[untold pawn]

they were wrong...

they're for limit breaking

[woven ice]

who said this to u
show them to me

[warm loom]

It's the taihou person

Lemme search

Joe Salvador guy

Or girl

Idk

[woven ice]

don't get the advice from anyone but the regulars

[warm loom]

[woven ice]

this is the comment right #gameplay-help message

[reef saddle]

so sad

this is why I proposed elitism where every member just got a role in a hierarchy

but Ender et al. just rejects it outright loll

[warm loom]

Trust system fr

[reef saddle]

honestly I would say Joe Salvador is safe to block

[warm loom]

Anyways, is SR Bullins Scarce early on?

[reef saddle]

but I would be mean for saying that

[woven ice]

to be fair he gave the correct advice at the start #gameplay-help message

[warm loom]

It's mostly on my part honestly

I chose to retire them

[reef saddle]

See I judged too early

my L

[warm loom]

Anyways, should I buy SR Bullin with merit? (The Pvp one)

[woven ice]

when u really need to do it yes

[warm loom]

-# I'll probably sleep soon anyways-

[untold pawn]

it's why you were dissuaded from using suzu early

otherwise suzu is really good