W14 help from you living legends

[sage sable]

Main Fleet

Vanguard

DD

CL

[winter rampart]

which w14 map are you on at the moment?

how many speciazlied points do you have in monthly proto? do you have 15k event points?

[winter rampart]

how many gold bulin you have?

ships first we'll deal with gear later.

[gilded plaza]

damn these images won't load for me,have to take a while

[sage sable]

Aye, Am currently at W14-1. Proto is 68/2220. Event points at 4725 but I've already exchanged the planes.

[winter rampart]

no we are targeting the 15k rainbow bulin milestone

shinano can't help if she isn't mlb

[gilded plaza]

you should be unironically farming d3 now

lots of goodies come from farming good event and event reruns

[sage sable]

I've 1 rainbow bulin on hand. Event milestone is at 24k.

[winter rampart]

the hvars planes in d3 is going to be very useful in w14 especially -3 and -4

yeah farm event first to get that bulin and mlb shinano

[sage sable]

So I should farm D3 and worry about W14 after the event?

[winter rampart]

musashi unicorn shinano will be a solid mob backline, jersey amagi and rumey will work for boss

that is correct

rumey will want the hvars to punch the destroyers in 14-3 and the cruiser boss in 14-4

[sage sable]

Yeah about this, my Rumey is

[sage sable]

Ok nevermind

[winter rampart]

yeah double fighters works for her in w14

[sage sable]

LMAO just wanted to say Rumey is kinda underperforming for me in W14

[winter rampart]

14-1 and 14-2 is battleship bosses

14-3 is a pair of destroyers

14-4 is a heavy cruiser

[sand bobcat]

I do 14-1 and even cleared with out of ammo for the first run

For mob fleet i go with Uni, Musa, Aquilla, Shima, Laffey and Anchorage

Boss fleet i would go with NJ, Shina, UR Amagi, Z52, Watarase and Allen maybe

[gilded plaza]

what cope are you speaking? concealment mechanic in w14 sucks for aimed dmg in general, with rocket planes among the worst gears

[winter rampart]

i cleared 14 with enterprise nj and essex with 109g and barracudas thank you

and vanilla helldivers

[sand bobcat]

Wyvern is better than those planes tbh

HVAR seems too light armored oriented

[winter rampart]

14-3 is light boss

14-4 is med boss

14-2 and 14-1 are the ones that want anti heavy

[sand bobcat]

Aren't there battleships you have to worry about

[winter rampart]

azuma sumner and sandy will do fine for mobbing, anchorage chang chun san fran will do for boss you want levels on the ddg

[sage sable]

Is Musashi better in a mob fleet and NJ boss fleet? I've always use them the other way round.

[winter rampart]

you can pick your mobs to be dd and cv nodes bb nodes are last resort and will be carried by submarines

[winter rampart]

the mob fleet takes a beating, boss only needs to survive the boss fight

musashi's abilities preserves unicorn in particular sans a second damage/healer

i.e. volga or aquila

[sage sable]

This I know.

[winter rampart]

perseus and ryuuhou are more dangerous option

[sage sable]

This I don't.

[sand bobcat]

I'm talking about boss node

14-3 is light armor but there are alot of battleships to deal first before it

[winter rampart]

there's also zuihou but i didn't get the chance to send her to 14/15

[winter rampart]

you save the sub call for that first triple bb wave

then their duration they should have enough clear the others till boss shows

[jolly pier]

these aren't the important ones can u show all of ur depot plz

[winter rampart]

faraday how are you submarines btw

[sand bobcat]

Iirc i do it the hard way

NJ Enty Uni Shima and whatever the rest i forgot without sub

But yeah ig your suggestion will be better than mine

[sage sable]

They suck 6 ways to Sunday

[winter rampart]

show.

[sand bobcat]

That's alot of sub level missing out tbh

[winter rampart]

archerfish nautilus and 47 will do.

[sage sable]

I'm not proud of it

[winter rampart]

only difference i had was i had albarcore instead of 47

what you need is good sub gear

[jolly pier]

isn't 37 81 better ?

[sand bobcat]

Well Royal Fortune can do, just not so much

I cleared chapter 14 with only R.Y as sub slot

[gilded plaza]

amity for your sub weekly shenanigans (sub torp farming for your subs)
archerfish - nautilus - u 47 for now by virtue of being the highest lvl'd subs, MLB those and get a workable mob fleet

[sage sable]

Fighters

[sand bobcat]

Those won't do for ASW

[gilded plaza]

later you can raise up u37 and u81 as well, try to fish for u96 in the shops

[sage sable]

Dive bombers

Torp bombers

[winter rampart]

37 81 96 is better yeah but needs more gold bulins and fishing for 96 in monthly

i try to work with what he has

barracudas helldivers are fine

[jolly pier]

he looks like he is missing stuff so maybe he will have time to gather all the pieces by then

[winter rampart]

and levels .

[sage sable]

Oh my pruple fighters are a bunch of F4Us

[winter rampart]

you want everyone 120 if possible, the mobs and bosses are around that level and having level gap vs them has penalty against you

[jolly pier]

how many protocores do u have ?

[winter rampart]

he has like 3k

1k short of 1 more urin

[jolly pier]

no i mean proto not specialized ones

the ones u get ur gear with

[winter rampart]

oops he has 68 lol

mistook him for someone else

[sand bobcat]

I would go for 125, although 120 is possible

Threat level jams the mobs and bosses up to lvl138

[jolly pier]

@sage sable can u check ur inventory if u have combat data exp to analyze ?

[winter rampart]

you gonna make him buy tenrai?

[sage sable]

This?

[winter rampart]

actually that is a good point

[jolly pier]

imo there might be other priorities but a tenrai is good overall especially on boss

[sage sable]

Eh wrong reply

[jolly pier]

analyze them all

[winter rampart]

you gonna want high avi planes and maxed gold catapults on the carriers

and maxed augments

you want to have supremacy over superiority in w14 too so pumping avi stat is good call

[sand bobcat]

Or 1 ASW plane for catapult replacement

ACV aren't a problem in W14

[winter rampart]

on unicorn yes, sumner and sandy is strong asw and wakatsuki is a good sumner replacement if preferred

[sage sable]

Shouldn't I be saving them for PR5?

[winter rampart]

asw is more relevant in -3 and -4

[jolly pier]

afair the issue i had with w14 is in 14-3 and 14-4 i think the boss was killing the flagship
i changed the BB to enty and it stopped from happening but i heard it might be just luck

[winter rampart]

no certain older gear are still important like tenrai

[sage sable]

I mean, I don't mind, I don't really like PR5 waifus.

[winter rampart]

never had issues with 109gs in -3 and -4 even if essex was struggling to push damage

i had to call in subs at specific moments though

they were the bb wall breakers

[jolly pier]

yeah subs and avoiding BB nodes definitely help with a massive margin

[winter rampart]

i.e. subs were on manual call

[sand bobcat]

If your ship is dying from the shelling

What i do is wait for BBs to fire their second shells and use airstrike to sweep them off

Does not help much but it reduced risk of being burned. You canceled the battleships from buring your backline

Enty is good enough as long as her luck procs

[winter rampart]

yes, i specifially worked on getting bidders for w14

[sage sable]

I analysed them all

[winter rampart]

yeah manualing is an option but musashi uni can let you avoid that

as long as someone can specifically target heal sushi because she taunts everyone attacking the backline

this is why musashi aquila unicorn is so broken

a high damage tank with 2 healers that have aggro pulled from them

[sage sable]

By logic Ranger is god tier as long as her skill procs, got trolled by Ranger so many times in exercise

[winter rampart]

that musashi combo 3 stars lethal w15

[gilded plaza]

did somebody say lethal w15

[winter rampart]

yeah musashi was a mustpull when that rerun came for newbies

[sage sable]

So I need to get this, right?

[jolly pier]

how many combat data do u have in the inventory ?

[sand bobcat]

Idk how you would do it but i generally reset if there are too many main fleet node

Go for sub fleet instead and only go for 1* main fleet if it appears

[sage sable]

Only the 400 previously shared

Currently 0

[winter rampart]

how many protocores you have now?

the yellow and blue ones

[jolly pier]

oh he bought a georgia gun

[sage sable]

868

[winter rampart]

you want 1140 to buy that tenrai

so pay attention to your blueprint income

with ones you can analyze

i did w14 with just gold guns

[sage sable]

I need 19 more

[winter rampart]

sushi wants 410 gold triple or 410 purple twin

purple twin will be fine for mobbing her barrage will do the work

nj is fine with the champagne gun

or the flander gun the french 406

for 1 and 2

[jolly pier]

or daisen gun

[winter rampart]

even keep it for -3 and -4 to help purge bb wall but if you invest in subs mk6 purple is good for faster boss kill

[sage sable]

Using purple rn

[winter rampart]

i kept the champagne gun on nj for 14-4 but my clears on lethal until 100% were B ranks because essex suck at doing damage

past the time objective but ships were healthy

[jolly pier]

can u show ur aux in depot ?

[winter rampart]

i think with rumey and amagi you will be able to do A if not S

[jolly pier]

missing a BB radar i think and 2 washing machines

[sage sable]

The rest are blue gears

[jolly pier]

imo if u are fine with the core data u can grab a breget from there

usually u want 3 of each shells for bossing

[winter rampart]

oh yes breguet are good

[jolly pier]

but if u want to focus on clearing this campaign u will have more use for breget

since u bought 37 georgia gun prints did u at least manage to craft it ?

[sage sable]

Yep NJ's using it rn

[sage sable]

Get this or save for Tenrai?

[jolly pier]

they don't share the same currency

[sage sable]

Oh 800 cores

[jolly pier]

yeah core data

[sage sable]

Really wished I asked this yesterday before I exchanged for a 93 Oxy

[jolly pier]

there are 3 cores in the game so it is kinda confusing

[winter rampart]

if you do hard mode diligently at least 12-4 you will be able to fit your campaign cvs all with breguet quickly

[winter rampart]

well the subs can stll use it

[jolly pier]

i guess we are going to wyvern route

[sage sable]

Yeah I'll be farming that next. Been farming X-2 for Agir's blueprint

[winter rampart]

wyvern route is great. i do not regret making 7 for w15.

[jolly pier]

i think 101 can use the oxy

oh yes u want also to get their aux from the core data

mainly the snorkel

[sage sable]

🥲

[jolly pier]

[winter rampart]

it means don't rush you just need time to get the tools. preparation > rng prayge

[sage sable]

I'll make a checklist of things I need farmed, and restart this thread in a few months

[jolly pier]

all i can say in the w14 that the difficulty scales exponentially

[sage sable]

I went from cruising in W13 to crying in W14

[jolly pier]

14-1 is a walk in a park u can do it with ur current state

14-2 isn't too bad too

starting from 14-3 it is a next level stuff

[winter rampart]

yes -3 and -4 catches unprepared commanders especially the bbs there and the asw needs

but ironically by having sumner wakatsuki and sandy ready you bypass that

[sage sable]

I asked on CN server and people there told me to retrofit Chang Chun

[winter rampart]

yes the ddg chang chun and an shan were great in w14

[jolly pier]

but he has sima

[winter rampart]

remember the bosses in -3 and -4 are light and med they will be shred

[sage sable]

And I ended up with this. With no missle.

[winter rampart]

shima would be good for -1 and -2 and maybe -4 but not o much for -3

oh missile is in core too

happy grinding

[sage sable]

So should she be a priority too?

[winter rampart]

she is good for -3 and -4

otherwise shima

i would bring shima with survival gear or the goldburn for a mix of hp/rld

[sage sable]

Ok. Imma go ahead and screen shot some important shit for my checklist if yáll don't mind, and close the thread in a bit.

Also, thanks all yáll!

[jolly pier]

so mob is uni musasi aquila azuma sima sandy ?

[winter rampart]

sushi uni haku/shinano mlb azuma sumner sandy

but musashi uni auila is ideal

if sima is involved she should be boss

[jolly pier]

boss is
mamagi rumei NJ anchorage with whom ?

i like the idea to raise jda

[winter rampart]

anchorage ddg/shima san francisco

[sage sable]

I take it I'll need to MLB Shinano next?

[winter rampart]

jda/eldridge for mob is great

yes mlb shinano is importat

[jolly pier]

looks like he missed the eld retro event

@sage sable do u have eld retro item ?

it was during the mamagi event

[sage sable]

I've been casually collecting waifus for a few years and only decided to make AL my main gacha last November

So yeah, I missed alot

[winter rampart]

well hope for jda to show up in the between events single light rolls

[sage sable]

Fuck NIKKE btw

[winter rampart]

she makes w14 mobbing a lot easier and is kind important for w15 if eldridge retro unavailable

yeah AL is a good reprieve from gacha salt. for me it's from FGO.

[jolly pier]

~~or u can spend some runs in the wa and hope for an early drop or if not just do 60 runs ~~

[sage sable]

wa?

[winter rampart]

doing war archives for the kicks and crystal dress gear is good too

[sage sable]

Ahhhh

[winter rampart]

war archives old campaigns

crystal dress is hp gear for shima kicks is extra evasion for someone like azuma if achorage is running beaver tag

[sage sable]

Unicorn - Musashi - Aquila
Azuma - Sumner - SD5

Amagi CV - NJ - Rumey
Anchorage - Shimakaze - SF

That sound right for now?

[winter rampart]

don't forget your sub team

[sage sable]

Yeah uhuh went up my checklist

Lemme do a last min check before I close the thread