HVAR nolifer megathread

[hollow sable]

reasonably likely

[timid slate]

Oh that's kinda tight yeah

you just need to be a talented gambler and it's ez

[pastel badger]

108/125
10k oil left in storage

spending my last 10k

hopefully ill get something

[flat shoal]

Just like the 2nd day, I peeked a lot today, I didn't get any hvars yet...

[shrewd rune]

whats the drop rate on HVARs....

[pastel badger]

like 0.1 is the average ish

[valid oriole]

0.14 is the avg although most of us are hitting 0.12

[timid slate]

I got a whole 4 prints today

[pastel badger]

i got 8

[timid slate]

No wait, 6
Still

[pastel badger]

and im down to 7k oil

[timid slate]

We got the weekly refresher tomorrow, I believe you can do it

[valid oriole]

i stopped farming

~~gotta take care of the other 8 games ~~

[modern monolith]

i'm at 0.11

[spark sun]

From 128k sotrage oil to 89k, almost 40k oil for 1 full HVAR, this is depressing

[grave canopy]

[spark sun]

I don't think it's worth farming for a 3rd one, 2 should be enough and I feel like I'm just wasting so much EXP with the amount of oil it costs

[grave canopy]

2 is good to have for kearsarge yorkii

so u can stop if u want

[flat shoal]

well what else are you gonna use the mail oil for

also I'm suffering a loss on hvars

[grave canopy]

join us plebs at 0.12 rates

[spark sun]

How do you figure out 'rates'?

[grave canopy]

i do it from the tokens

[pastel badger]

or join me

[grave canopy]

I made this tracker for it
if u remember what u farmed so far and what missions u did https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11SUm3qE_QweBC6G5yXb1mCRyA4wuyhaPOxAHUS6inQk/edit?gid=0#gid=0
copy it and use it for yourself if u want

[flat shoal]

[spark sun]

This is mine right now

[grave canopy]

8%

[spark sun]

What is the average %?

[grave canopy]

13-14% I believe

[spark sun]

So I've been scammed?

[grave canopy]

some ppl have 17% here

[spark sun]

Rip

[grave canopy]

well luck can turn around

u could have a dry spell then 20 in 1 day

I expect u need ~25-30k oil for the next 25 prints with 150 oil fleet

but ofc it is just probability

[spark sun]

Ill give a few runs tomorrow after work, and if no luck then Ill just give it up. And yeah the 3 fleets I've been running is just 1 DDG with Aquila, Uni or Persues

[grave canopy]

[red sparrow]

4k oil, 18/25 for third HVAR, 80k points. Do i keep pushing?

[grave canopy]

HVAR will be added to some shop in the future
dont need to feel too bad about it

[grave canopy]

push but stop at 25 that is it

[rugged heart]

[grave canopy]

[sour shard]

[grave canopy]

I rly expected the rates to settle closer to 14% with so many runs

[sour shard]

i probably could get better oil rates with ranger/ddg but it dies like one in every ten runs for me so i cba

[grave canopy]

yeah i stopped ranger too

cant be arsed to babysit it

[sour shard]

ranger/z52 would've worked to be more effecient but my z52 is still only level 110

[grave canopy]

I didnt try laffey2 ranger
Does it survive?

[sour shard]

🤔

ill test that rn

i dont have the seaplane girl from pr7 to get 2 BB crossfleets though

[rugged heart]

its all rng depending on the planes spawning in vanguard aa

bogue and double ur aa helps but still not 100%

[sour shard]

i had to use a hedgehog with ranger/ddg

i might be able to forgo that with ranger laffii

[grave canopy]

is bogue aa better?

[rugged heart]

she has a fighter + aa gun slot

[upper ibex]

i didnt have a fail in the 60ish runs today with bayard bogue, i didnt even put ur aa on bogue, just toolbox+manjuu

[rugged heart]

compared to torp/db/db on ranger

[sour shard]

wouldnt be suprised if roomba on bogue was better

[upper ibex]

range increase might be better

but still cant shoot down all planes consistently im affraid

[rugged heart]

bayard probably clears fast enough that the cross barrage can kill the bb/cv

ddg kinda weak

[upper ibex]

sometimes i see her getting detected and shot at by the bb but she can tank just enough to live

[sour shard]

laffii bogue looking promising for me

damn shouldve started this earlier

wasted so much oil with aquilla + ddg

[vale flume]

Can u get S tho?

[sour shard]

yes but not sure about my consistency

[vale flume]

got shouhou? she's great

[sour shard]

l70 shouhou?

[vale flume]

:/

[sour shard]

no i mean im oil brainrotting

bogue dying to boss but im not paying close enough attention to see if its to planes or subs

[upper ibex]

on boss idt there are planes so it must be subs

[sour shard]

slapped a hedgehog on and am watching again

[flat shoal]

anything below uni starter that can work 100%

[sour shard]

like oil-wise?

plenty depending on crossfleets

easiest lowest oil cost for most people probably ranger or bogue + z52

[flat shoal]

17 oil? oh wow only 15 oil

[sour shard]

cheap gearwise too

76mm basically as good as 113 in campaign stages

[flat shoal]

yeah, the only problem for me tbh is the fact that z52 is still 110

[sour shard]

yeah same thats why im not doing that

bogue + laffii w/ hedgehog is working for me

i think if you have halford to open up 2 BB crossfleets you can do even cheaper cost stuff like ranger + ddg

[flat shoal]

ah yea the AVI req ugh

my books dipped below 1k though because I retro and lb some stuffs

[rugged heart]

you guys think 0lb 125 z52 would be better than ddg?

[sour shard]

probably not

no all out assault on her probably cuts her dps too much

[flat shoal]

the oil cost is literally the same as mlb right?

or am I tripping

[rugged heart]

shes 7 base not sure if it goes up without lbing

ah nvm it goes up even without lbs

[flat shoal]

yeah the level same

[sour shard]

"
Max Cost is constant for PR/DR/UR/META Ships regardless of their development level/limit break/activation."

[upper ibex]

z52 sometimes gets A rank on boss but otherwise shes most stable (in making lb0 backline survive)

her aa is just insane lol

[flat shoal]

z52 level 16 is 7 oil only

[upper ibex]

lol

[flat shoal]

lol

[pastel badger]

lol

[vale flume]

lol

[sour shard]

whats the crossfleet meta?

musashi alsace fritz kron halford unzen?

[flat shoal]

seems like so if you wanna use bogue/ranger

[upper ibex]

idk i barely hit avi req with halford fubuki LOL

[flat shoal]

I'm not even gonna be able to do bogue then no fubuki

[upper ibex]

if u use double cata on bogue its doable but then she risks dying

[flat shoal]

wait... can't you just replace fritz with amagi and discard the fubuki?

[rugged heart]

ting an with seaplane is the same avi

[upper ibex]

maybe icould but i only have shima or z52 anyway

no unzen

[flat shoal]

did you take a break?

[upper ibex]

yeah for about 3 years

[valid oriole]

are u using albion aux ?

[upper ibex]

ye

no cata on bogue tho

[gritty heart]

Print/runs ratio has increased to 27/121

[flat shoal]

sus

my ratio decreased to like around 13%

[pastel badger]

i have grinded 46.5 hours since event start

[red sparrow]

Full time job getting these prints

[flat shoal]

TRUE, full time job for a week with an overtime on weekends

[shrewd rune]

My dr is 8.43% 😔

Can we use bearn meta instead of bouge

[grave canopy]

She costs too much oil

Just use sth with 10-11 oil cost

[hollow sable]

somewhere between 0.14-0.15 but expect high variance due to low drop rate and low sample size (bc who can really do more than 1k runs max?)

[eager igloo]

Aside from the free hvar I only managed 12 dupes so far, I’m so cooked

Shit is insanely rare to drop

[hollow sable]

it is indeed

even law of large numbers has trouble...tho mostly because it's hard to get many hundreds of runs, both time/oil/morale

[eager igloo]

There are like less than 4 days rite

[hollow sable]

i count myself lucky to have had a fairly consistent dripfeed

[eager igloo]

Seems like an unbelievable task

[flat shoal]

tomorrow we're gonna have oil spurt

[hollow sable]

it's been consistently between 0.14 and 0.16 for me for most of the event

[eager igloo]

I’m not confident about it

[hollow sable]

i also pulled 2 yk2 so clearly my luck is high this event

[eager igloo]

Also should I just buy the season pass for oil then

[flat shoal]

up to you, but I would not

[hollow sable]

we get 6900 oil tomorrow

[flat shoal]

the season pass not even worth for oil I don't think

[hollow sable]

and dont underestimate ur daily oils

3 dailies is still like 1000 oil after hm cost

canteen will give u 7k

comms can be 6k+

its just harder to see the daily income cos its gradual and not big burst

[red sparrow]

Out of oil today and only 5 short an HVAR, we get how much oil tomorrow?

[hollow sable]

6900

[sour shard]

anyone know if sp is worth

[hollow sable]

this was my panic oil calc last night

[hollow sable]

no idea

[flat shoal]

congrats for completing the pressure test @pastel badger

[pastel badger]

thanks

[flat shoal]

I'm at 112/125

[sour shard]

i've gotten 1 hornet in about 110k points

lol

[hollow sable]

77/100 here

[sour shard]

ive gotten as close to 1:01 on the timer for laffii bogue but never A-ranked

🤔

[eager igloo]

173 with this, how do I decrease the cost

[pastel badger]

ddg

52 is 12 oil

[flat shoal]

idk if ddg gonna survive with indep, but unicorn + ddg is 150 oil

[covert jolt]

so...
how's the grind for everyone going

[flat shoal]

alpha finished

[pastel badger]

im never getting my sanity back

[hollow sable]

78/100 print for me

at 16% which is pogu

[flat shoal]

could've saved 5k mail oil had you did the grind tomorrow instead

[pastel badger]

a hvar a day keeps the harby(?) away

[flat shoal]

you're going for the next 22?

[hollow sable]

of course

[flat shoal]

yeah I haven't been doing opsi for the past 4 days

[hollow sable]

i have a lot of oil still left in me and it's guaranteed as long as i dont go below like 0.145

i did the math last night to check

[flat shoal]

I wonder how many gold plates I am missing

[hollow sable]

really the only downside is i will have no helps after this event

i could probably go without by now but i dont wanna risk missing the last bp

we'll see

[flat shoal]

you're doing 3+1 right?

[hollow sable]

4+1

[flat shoal]

[hollow sable]

what

[gritty heart]

Going 2 +1 this event (I already had 2 from the previous one)

[flat shoal]

I am a little bit pessimistic, but it should be fine

Good luck for the 4+1

[covert jolt]

Still got 3 days to go and the weekly top up

And an event right after....

[flat shoal]

we have a dead week right?

[covert jolt]

Nope

[flat shoal]

[covert jolt]

LnY event right after this rerun ends

Though I suppose the good news for you guys is it'll probably be a raid event

[flat shoal]

it's 2 weeks to lny

[covert jolt]

And I should last 3 weeks

[pastel badger]

It’s bad news, need to grind affinity

[covert jolt]

on subs?

[pastel badger]

Main fleet

Hopefully, I can survive

No oil

[covert jolt]

well raid events aren't that special for that

[pastel badger]

Tho we have 400 oil runs

[covert jolt]

it's only really for subs where they stand out

yeah, it's because you're guranteed to call them in for every fight

that's it really

[hollow sable]

good news cos i can recharge my oil from 0 in like 3 days

no biggie

[covert jolt]

yeah

[hollow sable]

anyway im down to 5k mail

[covert jolt]

you'll probably end up low cost farming it as well TBH

[uncut bison]

Gettign a dry spell

[covert jolt]

15-20 runs a day will on normal low costing will get you enough for all the important stuff

[uncut bison]

Over 20 3x runs with no drops

[flat shoal]

why, what are you planning

[pastel badger]

Wait so don’t grind main fleet affinity there

[covert jolt]

well you can but there's not gonna be any major benefit to grinding surface ship affinity there

I guess it is a bit better for vanguards because it's easier to control MvP but

[hollow sable]

oil math proving i am safe

current: 8000
mail: 5000
canteen: 7296
weeklys: 6900
dailys: 957

total = 28153

at 0.14 (below my current rate) = 21 print. im at 79 print. doesnt count comms

[sour shard]

do I finally grind out homura plus fish pack or just save oil for fleet tch grinding

[grave canopy]

12.9%
almost done just need 22 more

[sour shard]

[covert jolt]

up to you really

[pastel badger]

Soyuz, Fritz, Alsace,bz, Nakh, sashi all need 200 , they’re othed 100

[grave canopy]

the main thing is less oil per sortie
D3 oil cap is 35
I think raid is less
that is why raid affinity farming is slightly better

[flat shoal]

why is sub affinity important again for next event? I am missing something

[covert jolt]

is it?

[hollow sable]

cheap oil cost or something and fast

[covert jolt]

I don't think it was that much better than something like SP5 on the SP events

[covert jolt]

it's not really cheap, just fast and consistent

[flat shoal]

SP4 is oilcap right?

[pastel badger]

Where’s the current best place as of now to farm aff

[hollow sable]

ahh

[sour shard]

isn't it 2+1 brain rot

[covert jolt]

no

[hollow sable]

just get all subs to 90 before it

then you grind only a bit

[flat shoal]

I see, so it's the cheap and fast oilcap on the raid events

[covert jolt]

best would be whatever the lowest oil cap map is

[hollow sable]

160 battles

[covert jolt]

which is like 22 oil or something

[hollow sable]

27

well

for campaign its 27

in war archives 22 i think yeah

[pastel badger]

Where is that

[covert jolt]

yeah that's what I was thinking of

[pastel badger]

Which wa stage
Any sp?

[hollow sable]

i love small events because their oilcap is very low

great for plate farming and whatnot

[hollow sable]

sp5 polaris

idk others, there might be another or two?

[covert jolt]

yeah oil cap for hard mode on a raid stage is 25

[hollow sable]

tempesta and collab best, they have 20

wonder if tempesta gets warchive eventually

[grave canopy]

farming affinity in polaris is bad tho
U dont want to pick a cheap map u wouldnt farm otherwise
pick a cheap map you would farm anyway like d3

[hollow sable]

[covert jolt]

they should

[pastel badger]

I js need affinity

[hollow sable]

if the only concern is affinity/oil it's worth it, if they have nothing important to farm

[flat shoal]

celestial body SP looks good with some gear skins and ryuusei, though the celes body is kinda useless

[hollow sable]

it's pretty good exp/oil also

[covert jolt]

problem with the WAs is you're limited to 4 runs a day

[hollow sable]

yeah

[pastel badger]

Ima just run d3 rn

[covert jolt]

so I guess Raid event wouldn't be a bad place to farm then

[hollow sable]

just do your 4/day and then grind elsewhere normally

[grave canopy]

well u are losing gold that way
since u could just farm ch12+

[hollow sable]

[flat shoal]

u mean d1?

[hollow sable]

if coin is needed then sure

[covert jolt]

I doubt gold is an issue right now.....

[hollow sable]

but they said they just need affinity

so probably d3 atm yes

[pastel badger]

D1 is better?

[hollow sable]

i got my rumey and avp from 90 to 100 using d3 boss only

[grave canopy]

I am on month 18 and still have gold issues
I dont even do cats

[flat shoal]

d1 is better oilcost right?

[hollow sable]

oh yeah d1 better if you're done with hvar

29 oils

[pastel badger]

D1 it is

[hollow sable]

but raid even better so maybe go casual

[hollow sable]

well the funny thing ive seen is

[covert jolt]

the issue with raid events really is that they're not that interesting to farm

[hollow sable]

i have a lot of coins when i dont need them

and i have no coins when i need a lot of them

[covert jolt]

no ship drops, usually no interesting gear print drops, and rewards become piss poor after the first 15 runs a day

[grave canopy]

I guess NEED is also subjective
cuz my next goal is doing retrofits and u need a lot of gold for that
after that I should join the 200k+ gold boomers unless I start cats

[flat shoal]

I did all the retrofits until I can't because of levels and lbs

[grave canopy]

pls let us rest a bit
no more good map drops

[covert jolt]

well Breguette was one but that was the only notable one

[flat shoal]

apparently I need a TON of destroyer retrofit thanks to me keep doing 12-2 and 12-4

[covert jolt]

yeah that does happen

I actually ran out of T1 DD retrofit BPs for a time when I was wrapping up retrofits

[hollow sable]

just go slow on retrofits easy

rn i just focus cruiser and dd moreso for research and retro them maybe on the side too

[covert jolt]

well to put it into perspective I actually had more T3 DD BPs at that time than T1s and T2s combined

[hollow sable]

in exchange i always grab bb/cv from the guild shop, mostly cv

[fossil maple]

Damn im only 68 prints

[flat shoal]

how many runs?

[fossil maple]

Prolly settle on 4 hvars then

Idk

[hollow sable]

this event has been nice tho i used a lot of excess coins to speedrun my avp a bit more, and also upgrade a whole bunch of extra gears to lessen gearswapping

[fossil maple]

Busy babysitting

[hollow sable]

im doing between 30 and 40 bp per day for avp if im over or near coin softcap

[flat shoal]

nahhh why

[hollow sable]

shes dev25 or something and i began her this month

[covert jolt]

save some for Fu Shun's retro

[hollow sable]

because i have little atm to spend coins on

[flat shoal]

it's better tbh

[hollow sable]

it was gonna go to the banner but i got hamm2 and yk2 really easily so uhhhh

[flat shoal]

I have made like a very poor financial decision by spending like $12 just to buy pure oil back then

[hollow sable]

and atm it feels really bad to overcap coins because i just know ill need them later

[fossil maple]

140 pulls to get ykii for me

Fml

[hollow sable]

so im spending coins on stuff that still helps me a lot but isnt strictly necessary, to stay below cap

[flat shoal]

guess how much oil I have at the mail now, still 80k

[hollow sable]

atm i only really wanna go over cap for a UR pulling

otherwise i would feel bad about merchant fundings

im also buying gearskin every reset and i still got too much coin XD

[fossil maple]

I dipped to 400 cubes now

[covert jolt]

honestley after a while you just sort of accept the loss to be honest

[fossil maple]

So no excessive pull

[hollow sable]

im too new to accept it, i will need tons of coins, just not immediately, so i put them into stuff i think i will want later, like excess gear

[grave canopy]

I still stay on top of merchant ngl
but like I said I have stuff to spend it on
Also had like 50k cogs worth of awakening to do last month
but feel like with cog becoming an issue coin income might improve

[covert jolt]

oh yeah, I mean after you get out of that initial phase

[hollow sable]

its better than letting it go to waste imo when i dont have a need to stockpile a lot of coin just yet

[flat shoal]

yeah can confirm, coin issue almost gone

[hollow sable]

merchant is like 50k extra coin a week, thats a lot of oil technically

i am very miserly

[flat shoal]

it's very recommended to not softcap coins tbh, you can always reroll on cats/limit breaking/retrofitting

[hollow sable]

yeah

like i get it to save for ur pulling

but outside that it feels like a waste for a long time

at least i finally maxed my lecture hall

[flat shoal]

that's only when you don't have time tbh, I don't see why I couldn't get 300k in 2 weeks

[hollow sable]

well

its also reassuring

[flat shoal]

like final week

[hollow sable]

to be guaranteed it

[covert jolt]

it is

[hollow sable]

i wouldve stocked before this event if i hadnt already mathed that hvar farm would get me like 600k coins

[covert jolt]

and I will say to all of your efforts I doubt the HVAR will be returning for at least a year, that it'll be farmable again from another event anytime soon, or that something will be added to the gear lab will displace it

[grave canopy]

[hollow sable]

[flat shoal]

time to take cheeky's words

[covert jolt]

I mean if well look at the historical trends there isn't much reason to suspect otherwise

[hollow sable]

better safe than sorry anyway

[gritty heart]

Still no Yk2 at 140 pulls, going to head into pity

I got 4 Northamptons at 4 other SR ships instead

[hollow sable]

[grave canopy]

i think sidegrades are possible but yeah nothing to suggest they would powercreep it any time soon

[hybrid plume]

what is this cult here

[gritty heart]

HVAR Prints/run (only from farming)

[crude iris]

I have gotten 2 from farming and Im at 81k event points

[hollow sable]

HVAR nolifer megathread

begun by yours truly

[hybrid plume]

i guiess i have 1 from farming and im at 25k pts

[hybrid plume]

sup my love

[gritty heart]

So 50ish prints?

[flat shoal]

ruppy > saratoga

[crude iris]

yea and this aswell

[hybrid plume]

wait no

i only have 1

fk

33 prints

[hollow sable]

find me a ruppywink

[hybrid plume]

wiat

fk

wrong plane

im dying

[hollow sable]

?

[flat shoal]

bro thought it's the hellcat

[fossil nacelle]

Lol

[gritty heart]

Ok your Print/runs is about average. ~0.145

[hollow sable]

uh oh spaghettios

[crude iris]

loll

[hybrid plume]

im getting laughed at now sadge

big blunder

[crude iris]

it's okay you can probs get 1 or 2 if you farm hard enough :3

[hybrid plume]

i go check later

need to -15 from storebought

[fossil maple]

Got 2 at 70k points

[flat shoal]

that's good rate nvm it's about avg

[hollow sable]

im currently on run 505-510

[gritty heart]

Should be -25 total assume you claimed event rewards

[hollow sable]

idk how many pts i have

[hybrid plume]

i respect ur grinding skills

[crude iris]

wait I got 57 prints from 81k is my luck being a bad atm? I went like 20+ runs without one print

[fossil maple]

I run help exclusively

[worn turret]

anyone ping me your low cost fleet with renhex fleetbuilder with the oilcost, no pressure just for collection

[hollow sable]

with luck i can finish by tomorrow and chill, rebuild my oil a bit, and go do opsi

[gritty heart]

Normal

[chrome summit]

Normal luck.

[hybrid plume]

how many ur at now

[hollow sable]

81/100

[gritty heart]

Very low luck is like <0.1 print/run

[hybrid plume]

the hell

[crude iris]

seems like it, I started off strong so I figured it would slow eventually

[hollow sable]

low luck is 0.12 or less

high luck 0.16 or more

[fossil maple]

Whats 2nd best after hvars, bfg or la9

[hollow sable]

im on high luck, averaging just below 0.16

[flat shoal]

do you have the link of renhex? I forgot where to find it

[hollow sable]

bfg iirc

for light

[worn turret]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[hollow sable]

nvm its la9

[pastel badger]

theyre the same
except la9 has +20 avi and is slower

[hollow sable]

but idk how +13 bfg to +10 la9 compare so cost matter

probably just use whichever sync better

[fossil nacelle]

In the time it takes to even get 1 LA-9

You'd probably get enough plates to +13 one

[hybrid plume]

what is la9

[hollow sable]

a pr7 UR fighter

lachokin thing

[fossil nacelle]

The UR fighter in PR7 that's the best rocket basically

And in the first place aurora

[hybrid plume]

ah ok,

[fossil nacelle]

Are you even doing 7?

Weren't you doing 5?

[fossil maple]

Im doing 6 for 2nd ca gun 1st

[hybrid plume]

i have 16 of the pr5 ur gun, havent exchanged any

[fossil maple]

[hybrid plume]

im dying

[crude iris]

I want 6 but I saw my rates and decided its not likely

[fossil nacelle]

5 is the most you would ever need to begin with

[hybrid plume]

isnt the ur gun like plymouth main weapon

[fossil nacelle]

Kears + 2x 2 fighter slot CV is 5

[hollow sable]

what

im not the one asking

[fossil maple]

I prolly settle with 4

[crude iris]

yeah but in my mind 6 would be nice just incase another CV with double fighter wants to be ran with the others

[fossil maple]

5 is too much

[fossil nacelle]

By the time such a CV releases

You'll probably have perma HVAR

[hollow sable]

and anyway yes im on 5

nearly done tho i guess

but im thinking ill swoop to 4 for some more gear before going to 7

[flat shoal]

@worn turret I only have around this power tbh. this is for Musashi Alsace Amagi Shimakaze Guam Unzen crossfleet, it's a no-Bayard comp, perfect AVI reqs assuming 3 UR CV and 3 +13 catas on amagi

[fossil maple]

Do i have enough time to farm for 2 more

[crude iris]

you're right we just got a double fighter UR

[pastel badger]

if you have like 60k oil and a few hundred helps yes

[worn turret]

thanks

[fossil maple]

I have like 500 helps

[fossil nacelle]

You have, it just may not be worth

[hollow sable]

you should only need like 160-170 helps

[pastel badger]

yea youll be fine

[hollow sable]

if that

[pastel badger]

for refernece, im at 5, i farmed one hvar a day

[crude iris]

helps??

[hollow sable]

2x plan things

[flat shoal]

(just trying to be different since obviouslt uni ddg works)

[crude iris]

ahhh I only have 60 :p

[hollow sable]

javelin wins the cute 1:1 award

[crude iris]

I am at 3 already tho so I should be fine

[hollow sable]

purple fleet

[worn turret]

ofc. dont worry about it
https://renhex.github.io/alft/242 if anyone's interested (eagle/jiromaru)

[gritty heart]

28/136 prints/run now

[hybrid plume]

wtf???? 3 ur weapons unreal

[crude iris]

there are substitutes if you need em

[hybrid plume]

for the low oil fleet yes pls so i can start farming pts whenever i run out of ships to farm xp

[flat shoal]

oh you can make additional fleets

[hollow sable]

the gear req is much lower if you use a boss fleet, if youre not big enough

[flat shoal]

does z52 has crossfleet?

how's this passing avi req

[hybrid plume]

i wish one day ill have enuf resource to get big

[fossil nacelle]

She does

[flat shoal]

in 1 year trust

[worn turret]

with enough plane and cata

[hybrid plume]

ok gime 1 year but not as extreme as @hollow sable

[flat shoal]

so laffii just odd

[fossil nacelle]

🟨 Soaring Heart
Increases this ship's FP and TRP by 15.0%. Every time the Thunderheart gains 3 counters: increases this ship's AA by 10.0% (can be stacked up to 5 times; upon reaching the stack limit, this ship gains a special Anti-Air Gun). While this ship is afloat, for the first 5 battles of each sortie fought by a fleet this ship is NOT in: 25s after the battle starts, launches a supporting barrage (DMG is based on the skill's level).

[hybrid plume]

bad news, i only have 27 prints

[pastel badger]

[hybrid plume]

means i only got 12 prints from farming

26k pts

[flat shoal]

you have 120 z52

[pastel badger]

Who doesn’t

[hybrid plume]

i guess my friend is missing out, he says he dont want to spend his oil

[hybrid plume]

me

[flat shoal]

I thought you submitted just for the contest

[hybrid plume]

will this plane get added to gearlab

[pastel badger]

Maybe
Not in a while

[hybrid plume]

so this plane is like a jack of all trades or some sort

[pastel badger]

Cheeky no +13

[pastel badger]

The hvar?

[hybrid plume]

yeah

[pastel badger]

No

[covert jolt]

you wish

[hybrid plume]

damn i do not know gears

[pastel badger]

The hvar is good for single target anti light
And that specifically

[hybrid plume]

boss fleet or smt?

[pastel badger]

There are just some tryhards who will grind a lot for it to do good damage

[pastel badger]

Fuck that’s a second one

[hybrid plume]

can i see ur submarines

[hollow sable]

[pastel badger]

Submarine fleets should be pretty standard

[covert jolt]

I mean sure but why?

[hybrid plume]

im using u47 81 96

is it good enuf

farming them up

[covert jolt]

stil one fo the best sub fleets

a few better but not by a huge margin

[hybrid plume]

so these are good enuf?

[covert jolt]

yes

[hybrid plume]

ok

will cont to farm

[pastel badger]

do you specifically farm c5 for plates
or just do ops normally

[covert jolt]

I just farm C3 to dump my AP

[pastel badger]

why c3?

[hybrid plume]

ok ill brb lunch time

[covert jolt]

think some recent CN data said it was better than C5

[flat shoal]

I think c1 > c3 > c5 in rewards with an exponential downward curve in terms of effort

[gritty heart]

No +13 Mogador gun?

[pastel badger]

my plates went into a plygun
and now a mk4

[covert jolt]

uhh, I saw that...

[gritty heart]

Sorry ping by accident

[hollow sable]

c3 good

[hollow sable]

well c1 only because it turns into marginally more c3s

and you get different result asking different groups if c1 even produces ap

at this point i do it for gem and cube and oil, followed by exp

[true owl]

Ranger/Z52 costs 157 oil, rest consumes 150

Musashi/Alsace/Amagi + Guam/Halford/Unzen for boss crossfleet

[flat shoal]

aquila cassin, intresting

I used to think that aquila leander is the lowest

[pastel badger]

laine

[flat shoal]

who's laine

[gritty heart]

Btw Chang Chun is probably better than Tai Yuan, Tai Yuan needs full fleet for her buff to activate

[acoustic bay]

Lain in amagi, should be around t5 in amagi currently

[hollow sable]

tai yuan 15s barrage has reaim

[flat shoal]

yeah a part of it

[gritty heart]

25% FP and RLD is a big buff to skip out on though...

[covert jolt]

I used Tai Yuan throughout and honestly never noticed the difference between her and the other 2

That aimed barrage does a lot of work

[hybrid plume]

sup im back

back to farming 💀

[true owl]

Aside from her barrage that works well on auto where your vanguard tends to move far/out of range, I just have the better stuff on her and don't want to do more gear swapping

[worn turret]

thx

[hybrid plume]

hope i can get yt 2

[hybrid plume]

FK NO MORALE NOOOO

[hollow sable]

more teams

[flat shoal]

for starters, I run 6 teams

the others here might run more

[hollow sable]

i run 3

i do this thing called taking break or play opsi when all are low XD

[pastel badger]

i dont

i fill in

more shitters

[hybrid plume]

who to build/use next tho no plans yet to build any else

[sly light]

Morning fellow miners. I do see the light at the end. 110/125

Been slacking lately to be honest.

[hybrid plume]

5??????????????

[sly light]

4+1

[hybrid plume]

i got none

from like 10 runs

is it normal

[sly light]

Normal.

Cause drop rate is abysmal

[hybrid plume]

my words saying i want 4 is too much probs

im not even close to 2

[sly light]

If you wanted 4 you need around 100k oil just to be safe

[hollow sable]

84/546

[flat shoal]

Ending my Day 4 guys

[hollow sable]

im out of mail

[flat shoal]

oh no

[shrewd rune]

bc day 5 just started hell yeah

[shrewd rune]

Bristol, SF, Perseus

[hybrid plume]

bristol and sf is who, im alr leveling perseus in event

[shrewd rune]

Actually you have Cheshire and Anchorage. Don't need SF

Bristol is a DD with a good debuff

[flat shoal]

why are you asking it here

this is a thread for HVARs

[hybrid plume]

oh wait wrong channel

[hybrid plume]

your 4k oil has just arrived

[flat shoal]

you should've made your own personal thread so others can help u better

[shrewd rune]

I'm at 18/25 HVAR, there is no hope for me

Gear lab in a year ig 😔😔

[flat shoal]

at least in terms of fleetbuilding like "who to level etc."

[hybrid plume]

theres still few days

[hybrid plume]

ok thx for le idea mb lol

[shrewd rune]

My goal was 4 HVARs 😭

[flat shoal]

7 HVAR prints is just like 9k oil, just do it

[shrewd rune]

Tomorrow 🙏🏻

[flat shoal]

[shrewd rune]

But I'm definitely not getting another 25 in 2 days

[flat shoal]

yeah it gonna need 12 hours of non-help runs and around 27k oil

[runic wigeon]

2 prints from single D3 today wtf

[hybrid plume]

wtf

goat

[vale flume]

Indep + ddg works but you can also use Indep + Yuudachi/ Eldridge for a bit more, also where are your subs

[timid slate]

Goodmorning grinders, weekly oil today

[vale flume]

gmgm, let's go get those evil planes

[hollow sable]

85/559

the last few are gonna be a bitch i can already tell

[timid slate]

You were going for 100, right?

[hollow sable]

yeah

[timid slate]

Good luck, I believe

[hybrid plume]

gl u can do it my fellow grinder

[eager igloo]

Wait sub don’t affect oil?

[timid slate]

Only if you call them into battle, if they do the map attack they don't

[hollow sable]

map attack can help a bit,but also eats up irl time, so up to you

[flat shoal]

finally done

rates tomorrow

[hollow sable]

give me some

gz tho

im almost out of oil and then will have to just wait and cope on last day of event LOL

[hybrid plume]

WTF 2

[flat shoal]

hopefully you'll gonna be able to make it

[hollow sable]

86

about 7.5k oil left then it's just having to rebuild oils for the final day

[flat shoal]

[timid slate]

You're free, congrats

[flat shoal]

nah it's regular one, these two are the real menace

[hybrid plume]

3????????????????

and double 2???

[red sparrow]

[hybrid plume]

WTF

[hollow sable]

protect your bps

i am coming for them

[flat shoal]

ganbatte, faito

[flat shoal]

I need 10 more bp for second hvar in alt account

[flat shoal]

nvm these are different accs

right one is alt

[hollow sable]

well chat

im convinced now i wont get 4+1

just got my 6th (wtf) steam cata from d3 boxes

!!

[timid slate]

Your bp luck all going into catas

[timid slate]

My weekly oil pack has gone poof already

[hollow sable]

im about to hit rock bottom pretty soon

idk if im even allowed to be mad considering i doubled my catapults this event

like tf

[timid slate]

Don't give up hope

[gritty heart]

Wait how do you have so few catapults? I've got like 20

Btw you got both of the Angel of Iris right?

[frail latch]

i just used up 3k oil from weekly reset with 0 prints to show for it

so ~10 runs (9+1st of the day)

[hollow sable]

whats angel of iris

[upper ibex]

thats rng for u

[hollow sable]

i feel like 12 catas is pretty decent for 4 months anyway

[hybrid plume]

what is catapults

[frail latch]

wait i cant math thats 19 runs (18+1)

[hollow sable]

i went into this event with 6

[upper ibex]

once i get 4 prints in 35, then get nothing for the next 45 runs

[timid slate]

bis CV aux, gold steam catapults

[gritty heart]

Actually it's 30 lol

[frail latch]

please tell me you made this bc thats amazing

[hybrid plume]

how tf u double catapults

i didnt even get 1

[timid slate]

i actually did edit it after my weekly pack net me only 1 print

[oak hull]

[gritty heart]

Get lucky on gold boxes

[frail latch]

tbf they can drop from any faction's gold tech box (although all i get are cranes)

[frail latch]

i have 11 and i think i started around the same time as you (a bit later)

(and 6 cranes)

[oak hull]

#gameplay-help

this thread is specific only for hvar minmax discussion

not for casual talk purposes

i already said it before, if it's used as a casual talk place i will close it down

[frail latch]

oh you meant to al-general understood

[past edge]

my hvar print gain v0.12
339 runs ??? oil 41 hvar
5x SP 223 oil per, 1 hvar
rate: 0.1209

[hollow sable]

my condolences

[flat shoal]

the variance is insane

no1 is alpha btw

[frail latch]

3x HELP'd runs consumes 7x2x2x3=84 morale?

[flat shoal]

normally you do 6x helped run for dormed ships before it is gone

[frail latch]

and they only start to lose affinity if they go below 0? or is there another breakpoint

[flat shoal]

below 0 yeah, you lose 0.5 affinity per battle I think

[timid slate]

Finally

My final count was 77 BPs/260-70(ish) helps
I'm freeeeeeee

[upper ibex]

now you have to farm another 23 or the 2 prints will forever haunt you

[hollow sable]

nah not forever

[frail latch]

so is it still worth it to do sp? or is the oil better spent on d3

[hollow sable]

just until it's archived

[upper ibex]

sp has such low sample size its hard to say droprate

[timid slate]

Actually true
What if a new meta comes out that needs 6 HVARs

it wouldn't happen, r-right?

[upper ibex]

who knows

[hollow sable]

[past edge]

my hvar print gain v0.13 final
363 runs ??? oil 50 hvar
5x SP 223 oil per, 1 hvar
rate: 0.1377

im free after 83k pts goodbye hvar farmers and good luck

[hollow sable]

[timid slate]

83k?? I ended at 115k
Not knowing my actual rate may be a blessing because of how shit it must've been

[upper ibex]

thats probably 76 including the milestone+shop

[timid slate]

Oh

[hollow sable]

actually yeah with 0.1377 it's 51

[frail latch]

hm well i ran sp and my 1:1 fleet wasnt able to do the 7th mob fight so had to use my boss fleet for it, so total oil spent was 214. assuming droprates are similar to d3 nodes, the extra siren node in sp should make up for the oil spent if your 1:1 is strong enough for the 2 3* out of ammo nodes it is definitely worth it

[gritty heart]

Who do you have?

[hollow sable]

92/100

im now reliant solely on daily regen and comms to get me the last 8, it aint looking good my luck vanished

[frail latch]

i used uni/cooper + indep/fritz/sandy/kagerou

cooper obviously not ideal but works fine in d3 and 9oil

kagerou is 8 but has worse aa/asw

[upper ibex]

all backline needs to do is survive, it doesnt matter

my bogue doesnt even get to airstrike until im out of ammo

[frail latch]

well in sp on the first out of ammo fight i barely scraped by with both uni and cooper at 10% hp

[upper ibex]

oh you were talking about sp? my b

[frail latch]

yeah was lowcosting sp to see if it's worth running just for hvars since it has 3 siren nodes instead of 2

[hollow sable]

4 instead of 3 u mean

[frail latch]

oh is that how many there are, but yeah

i probably shouldve just put sandy in mob

wait i actually didnt notice there was a 3rd siren node in d3, but sp also just has 3 so theres no extra

[hollow sable]

then sp is straight upworse o.o

[frail latch]

so only worth if you cope that the higher level nodes of sp have better drop rates

[hollow sable]

[vale flume]

93/100, something is very wrong with my drop rate today

all my luck went to Build, which I don't need at all

I just want to finish this maaan

[oak hull]

@vale flume that go to #trophy-room

[vale flume]

I could have deleted it myself, it was not a trophy, not something I like, I'm here for hvars and they are not dropping

[eager igloo]

4k oil, nothing dropped

…..

[stray lance]

eating good this morning

[chrome summit]

I'm having pretty good luck too. Have they upped the rates with the last update?

[red sparrow]

94k points and 2 HVARS from prints

Im done

[pastel badger]

Rookie numbers

[sly light]

My luck disappeared at 110.

An entire day of farming without prints.

[upper ibex]

gl with the rest guys

[uncut bison]

Wth is this dry spell

Full day of farming for 5 prints

https://tenor.com/view/kim-possible-ron-stoppable-have-i-been-put-on-this-earth-to-suffer-pain-suffering-gif-20443399

110/125 come on last 15 prints

[opaque nest]

event continues through end of the day on wednesday right

[uncut bison]

Until whatever time the maintenance starts for those who don't use fahrenheit

[tight shale]

are we sure luck stat is only related to gameplay and not drops btw?

[vocal glen]

Joke is on you, cause it took me 2 days to get 6 prints

[vale flume]

it's quitting monday

and I'm off this rollercoaster

see you on the other side, space cowboys

[pastel badger]

🎊

[opaque nest]

if i can squeeze out a hvar from tuesday + wed i can get 5

[upper ingot]

I’m done too with 4 HVAR and -50koil storage

I don’t want to know my rate lol

[vale flume]

nice, let me stay at 2nd place xd

[spark sun]

I got so lucky today wtf, I was at 73k tokens yesterday to get my first 25 prints, I then only got to 82k and got 25 prints in that increasing my drop rate by 5%

[grave canopy]

Good job

[gritty heart]

You were at 8% drop rate?

[spark sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326966318184005684/1328123139686797422/image.png?ex=6786e00f&is=67858e8f&hm=6835dd57c932d0bc7680165e946ec291e3e8b10a8abebb6af168a2f58a1bc1d5&
Yeah this was last night

[hollow sable]

hornet and 4 bp in 3 non-help run thank fuck uwu

[chrome summit]

Stop. Just stop. Think of our poor unlucky souls.

[hollow sable]

this is after many with none tho

[karmic quiver]

67/100 prints (milestone and shop unclaimed), 0 helps used

[grave canopy]

Damn u have been grinding sir

No HELP

[hybrid plume]

my luck is so down

0 prints in 7k pts of runs

[sour shard]

just got to 96 prints; deciding whether to go for 100 or 125

[hollow sable]

100 safer

[eager igloo]

Spent the entire weekly oil, nothing dropped wtf

[flat shoal]

should I spend an additional 8-10k mail oil just to grind 6th HVAR

[covert jolt]

well can you do it in the 2 days and change we have left for one

[hollow sable]

sounds like cope

i think better to save

[sour shard]

are you going to +13 6 hvars before they supposedly get added to gear lab

[gritty heart]

5 hvars is enough...

[acoustic bay]

what if theoretical UR CV with 3 fighter slots???

Adjust

:serenity:

[covert jolt]

I mean I thought 4 would be enough when I farmed them back in 2022

did not quite work out

[grave canopy]

going for 6 is fine but better keep some oil in mail imo
dont waste your last 10k for it

[flat shoal]

I still have 76k mail oil

I didn't even spend half of it

true tbh, 27k oil for a single plane is just pure Apple

iHVAR moment, too expensive

[hollow sable]

[flat shoal]

I wonder what I should do now ngl

people who finish farm hvar and still have oil, do you just farm 12-4?

[tight shale]

no, i would keep it in my storage for future use

[flat shoal]

faer is this real?

[grave canopy]

wdym real

[flat shoal]

isn't it 150, 200, 250, 300, 350 according to this

[grave canopy]

that is for the first time clear
I have the daily x5 in the recurring section

[flat shoal]

oh nvm I miscalc I think lol

you're right right

(is there an option to ignore b3)

[grave canopy]

hmmm
I didnt put that no
why would u ignore b3

[flat shoal]

gold cruiser print

I can just put 0 I guess, thanks for the sheet

[hollow sable]

gold cruiser print bad?

[flat shoal]

bad if you farm 12-2 your entire life

[hollow sable]

[flat shoal]

also it seems like dd retro bp is the most needed

[grave canopy]

this is before PR7 release and quite old
we probably had a few more retrofits after I mathed it
but just for a reference

so cruiser is actually more needed unless I did some wrong calculations

[flat shoal]

welp I did a big oof

[pastel badger]

Why?

[flat shoal]

I was wrong, it's an aircraft carrier smh

Data from FybreDoggo

[pastel badger]

Bruh 17%

[grave canopy]

18%

[hollow sable]

afaik

the 3* retro bp rewards

is always based on the 'lead ship' of the event hull type

dont quote me tho

but im pretty sure all events ive been in followed that

[flat shoal]

So I paid about 21k for the 4 hvars

[grave canopy]

very good ratio ngl

I think I am coming up on 100k used

[flat shoal]

I only have half the hornet II alpha have though

[pastel badger]

The grind was depressing

I have enough dupes to mlb 3

[hollow sable]

about 120k oil for me

[grave canopy]

ngl that is impressive for 4 months only

[hollow sable]

also lined up perfectly with my preemptive calculations

[flat shoal]

trade license moment?

[hollow sable]

3 more print to go and about 6-7k oil from regen/comm left, it should be cinched without abysmal luck

[hollow sable]

nah i have the event

i saved every drop of mail oil, was 52200 total, i also had 6k unclaimed from newbie missions (since i havent decided who or when to oath, it remains incomplete)

[flat shoal]

aurora to musashi: I'm sorry little one, small price for salvation

[pastel badger]

Musashi bad anyways

[hybrid plume]

i only have 1...

0 prints dropped since ytd

[flat shoal]

keep farming on d3

if you have oil ofc

[unkempt sand]

So what's the consesus 4 or 5?

[past edge]

3 and sleep

[shrewd rune]

5 prints away from my 2nd hvar

...

[unkempt sand]

Ok I think I'll stop at 4

[grave canopy]

in the past there have been 5 HVAR fleets
Kear YKII and implacable
I think current best light according to CN is Soyuz Nakhimov and fritz and I believe that fleet uses 4 HVARs

but probably that fleet needs oaths and/or tech

[hybrid plume]

ive put in like 8k oil no prints

since ytd

[grave canopy]

are u using full fleets?

the expected oil needed for full fleets is 40k per HVAR

[hybrid plume]

yes full

i have 35k k pts rn i think

but the rate is still not good

8k oil in an not a single print

8k is since ytd

previously i did not count

[grave canopy]

yeah it is rng so u might go 10k with 0 prints then one run gives u 4 prints

basically if u are going for it u should commit

[hybrid plume]

i am trying to get 2

[grave canopy]

well there is 2 days left
u need to do ~80 runs every day

[hybrid plume]

i have 1 already

[grave canopy]

i mean for the second one

[hybrid plume]

2/25 rn

[unkempt sand]

Ok I farmed 4 so far, there are a few days left? Go for the 5th? Is there any other events worth farming like this?

[pastel badger]

you could
and not atm

[atomic bramble]

So they fixed the bug on hvar rate?

[unkempt sand]

Any events coming up that is farmable like this one?

[pastel badger]

idk

nobody knows

[unkempt sand]

Reruns I meant

[pastel badger]

no

not that i know of

[atomic bramble]

So anyone feel the drop rate is good after the bug fix?

[pastel badger]

no

[shrewd rune]

62100 points, 2 hvar total. im done

[grave canopy]

I am officially done
it was a pleasure farming with you fellow SKK

[pastel badger]

[unkempt sand]

Damn you farmed 6!

[grave canopy]

well farmed 5 and 1 from the milestones and shop

[unkempt sand]

I am at 4, but I'll probably go for 5 since there are multiple days left

[atomic bramble]

I think 4 is minimal, maybe in the future can build hvar in gear lab

[uncut bison]

Gonna be quite a while away

Expecting March/April 2026 if my calculations are correct

[sour shard]

prob Jan/Feb 2026 if kron gun gets added in the upcoming gear lab update

[true owl]

[atomic bramble]

Yeah for now, the hard content is barely there, so manage the oil for upcoming event

[uncut bison]

I reckon core data shop

Unless they add in a new section for NP gear

[sly light]

Adios, fellow no lifers. Done with this at last.

[hollow sable]

IM DOOOOONE BAYBEEE

final

runs: 634
print: 100
print/run: 0.1577
hornets: 9

[flat shoal]

not bad

[hollow sable]

estimated oil: 120500

[hybrid plume]

dafaq

[hollow sable]

now what do i do with them?

[sly light]

The face when you realize the +13 BF has equal performance as +10 HVAR and you're busy getting the 3rd La9 to +13.

[flat shoal]

the face when you don't have +13 BF

[upper ibex]

[gritty heart]

33/157 print/runs, just need 17 more

[uncut bison]

I'm done good bye nolifers

[flat shoal]

lmao this channel is ded

time to get nuked

[grave canopy]

It served its purpose

[upper ibex]

[fossil maple]

1 day left, 108/125 prints

Wish me luck chat

[acoustic bay]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-stonk-hold-wallace-hold-braveheart-stonks-gif-20142609

not done until it is done

[hybrid plume]

im 5 away from second plane i think

[hollow sable]

gl

[flat shoal]

I'm still on 16/25

41/50*

[hybrid plume]

plsssss 5more.....

[unkempt sand]

I am finally done, 5 is good right?

[grave canopy]

yeah 5 is more than u need so far

There is no competitive 6 hvar comps yet afaik

[unkempt sand]

Wasn't too bad with the high efficiency tickets

Went though my entire stock though

[languid umbra]

I farmed 70k points in the event and only got 2 Grumman F6F Hellcat (HVAR-Mounted) is that good ?

[modern monolith]

did you do dailies and full map 3x/5x clears?

also that 2 hvar includes the shop/milestone rewards?

[languid umbra]

yea ?

I didn't full clear I don't know what I'm doing I just started the gear grind

[modern monolith]

estimate is 0.13, slightly below average

[languid umbra]

Is this the only way to get this plane

[modern monolith]

for now, yes
but it will be added into the game later, most likely gear lab

we just don't know when

[languid umbra]

I've been really sick but I still played a lot I thought I would have done pretty good

[modern monolith]

it's rng
how hard you grind is not the only factor to decide how many you get
but 2 is enough for most cases

[languid umbra]

okay nice

[hybrid plume]

1LEFT

I NEED 1 PRINT

[opaque nest]

[lament juniper]

Man I sure hope I can get at least three

I thought these things costed 15 prints

mis calculated :(

[hybrid plume]

same

[pastel badger]

#trophy-room message

w/ bug rate

[hollow sable]

im so fuckin jealous

with bug rate i'd be 300

[pastel badger]

life of a new gen

[modern monolith]

you don't need that many at all

[pastel badger]

anyways i still get nightmares of not having enough bps

ive truly lost my sanity

[modern monolith]

i mean, best vs light is still 3 bbs, technically hvars you need is 0...

[pastel badger]

is that assuming boss has no mechanics

and 100% hit rate

[red sparrow]

Whos best against light? Asking for a friend

[pastel badger]

i mean cvs
its kear,yk2,enty

assuming you dont need a stop/slow

[red sparrow]

Can always put Eldridge for slow

[flat shoal]

light cvs are overrated

[modern monolith]

3 bbs has zwei so target will always be not moving, or at least very close to that...
even for future contents, i just don't see why anyone would need more than 5... and more like 4 is the max possible

says a man who farmed 10

[acoustic bay]

according to who

[modern monolith]

CN calculation
bb fleet damage potential is 2.09m and mixed is 2.01m for light armor meta

[acoustic bay]

hmm

got links or smth? do ping in gph since that ain't purpose of thread

[sly light]

I find myself subconsciously clicking the event map whenever I want to either farm campaign or go OpSi.

This event ruined me.

[fossil maple]

125/125 prints

[hollow sable]

well tbf if it was bugged rate i'd have simply gotten 4+1 without using any mail oil lol

but i meant if i did as much as i did

[acoustic bay]

I just want to farm opsi and campaign now

Soon™️

[grave canopy]

From the one and only pilica

[tame ingot]

Done with 4