ahahaha baguette gun farm
#HVAR nolifer megathread
hollow sable
i dont have the source for the data tho, but i remember seeing it posted some time back
well a link to an older post, by dfg(?)
upper ibex
i think we had to manually select nodes on baguette gun farm still, right
timid slate
S-ranking has no effect on this 9% yes?
gritty heart
Are you losing ships in fights 
upper ibex
some ships sometimes cant clear in 2 minutes
gritty heart
Wait how is it still alive then
timid slate
I mean I'm just curious
I gave up on full 1:1 and now my xfleet does boss because it's faster
hollow sable
im currently backhunting for it, but here's another from a rudder event
this one says about 0.15
timid slate
Wait how is it still alive then
You don't kill in 2 minutes but boss also doesn't kill you in 2 mins
hollow sable
#gameplay-help message for baguette but imcertain there was a link/data dump also, cant find it atm
flat shoal
an average 1.5 year tryhard account should have enough resource to consistently uni ddg and equiv lowcost
hollow sable
why do cn have so much data collection, where is ours
flat shoal
cause they're cn?
hollow sable
gigachad nerds
apparently campaign gold ship besides akaga is approx 1.5% and event is 1%
flat shoal
or, "data from cn" more like "data from 3-4 people"
hollow sable
im learning so much by backreading dfg's posts involving some combination of "cn data collection"
upper ibex
every gacha i played cn was always tryhard
flat shoal
real
gritty heart
You don't kill in 2 minutes but boss also doesn't kill you in 2 mins
Don't see how that ever occurs tbh, even Laffey II/Independence is almost dead fighting SP boss
hollow sable
oh
i found it
so actually the average drop/run might be closer to 0.15
elite 1.45-1.87%
boss 5.81-6.93%, 1.502-1.598 average per drop
timid slate
apparently campaign gold ship besides akaga is approx 1.5% and event is 1%
That's super interesting because I always felt like event drop ship was way easier to drop 
maybe I'm just lucky
gritty heart
It's easier to drop than through gacha yes
flat shoal
why is he making sea hornet
hollow sable
elite 1.45-1.87%
boss 5.81-6.93%, 1.502-1.598 average per drop
this is like confidence interval range shit, idk statistics
but like
hm
vale flume
Numbers 
hollow sable
0.1308-0.1668 would be the most common range for your result to fall into, i guess
flat shoal
shrimple
hollow sable
with an average of 0.1488
wait did i take the +- too literally
are u supposed to do multiple deviations
frail latch
assuming p=0.05 it means 95% of the data should align with that range
flat shoal
yeah kinda, that is 95% interval so pretty wide
flat shoal
but honestly a good estimate is just the mean
gritty heart
why is he making sea hornet
Hornet II
hollow sable
both sound about right, anyway
flat shoal
ci just means that the actual drop rate according to the data is between those interval
hollow sable
the mean appears like it would be just under 0.15
frail latch
i'd like to report that i've gone from 20k points + 3 prints to 28k points + 10 prints 
gritty heart
Which should mean it is just 0.15
gritty heart
i'd like to report that i've gone from 20k points + 3 prints to 28k points + 10 ...
How many prints/run total?
frail latch
i did not keep track of # of runs
hollow sable
0.1144-0.1846
0.1495 according to this
well, we can add our own results into the betting pool
also, i have 4 hornets in just over 300 runs so i guess i am slightly above average luck atm
flat shoal
i did not keep track of # of runs
welp should've done it lol, try to subtract points maybe, assuming you did all hardmode, sp, and stuffs
hollow sable
this also vibes with my 0.16 hvar
flat shoal
i did not keep track of # of runs
what are your exact points?
hollow sable
doggo the private investigator
gritty heart
I'm still at 0.2 average
flat shoal
I can do calc assuming you did all the daily points task
frail latch
well in my last 40~ runs of points i acquired 7 prints
flat shoal
which is build 3 and hardmode
hollow sable
I'm still at 0.2 average<:AmagiHeh:666111440582606868>
think u mean 0.2 or 20%...
upper ibex
I'm still at 0.2 average<:AmagiHeh:666111440582606868>
u mean 20%
which is incredibly lucky
gritty heart
think u mean 0.2 or 20%...
Yes 0.2 average
frail latch
what are your exact points?
27880
flat shoal
I'm still at 0.2 average<:AmagiHeh:666111440582606868>
sounds like not enough sample size
hollow sable
it is lucky but not supremely so, isnt their sample size somewhat low
likex<100 runs
hollow sable
gritty heart
likex<100 runs
Yes <100 runs
frail latch
thats just what my face looks like farming hvars
frail latch
how many hvars?
10 prints
flat shoal
seems like there's something wrong
well there's some event points that you didnt collect
you haven't build 3
hollow sable
smh
timid slate
I can do calc assuming you did all the daily points task
could I get a calc too? 
I kinda regret not keeping track of my runs
upper ibex
i was about to ask as well 
frail latch
definitely did not miss a build 3
hollow sable
gritty heart
definitely did not miss a build 3
Did you do A1/miss C1 or something?
upper ibex
although idk how accurate it will be as this was the first time i cleared the event and different nodes required different amount of clears for 100%, it was kinda random
frail latch
hollow sable
maybe some a1-b3 daily?
frail latch
frail latch
fr
hollow sable
butyeah that'd mess with results
upper ibex
the more you farm the less that matters
hollow sable
also remember it cant be HELPed so if ur tracking ur own runs be careful with that
hollow sable
upper ibex
idek if my 3x on 2nd day got lost or what happened
hollow sable
oh yeah lol
funny
it probably runs into some kind of error if you're doing HELPed runs multiple sortie and the day changes halfway through it
upper ibex
yeah
timid slate
I had this happen today
frail latch
thats how you end up with negative morale
flat shoal
gimme like 5 minutes I'm figuring out the math
past edge
hvar channel?
frail latch
my uni sandy 1:1 died to boss 
so ive just been using my cross for it
past edge
is 138 runs and 16 prints average gain
frail latch
i wasnt paying attention but it was uni that died
upper ibex
no 
hollow sable
is 138 runs and 16 prints average gain
quite unlucky
timid slate
Did sandy have asw?
frail latch
is a +6 hedgehog not enough
timid slate
It should be
hollow sable
+10 it why not
timid slate
But if Uni is dying on boss it's because of subs
upper ibex
sandy asw is good
hollow sable
cls have lower base detection range than dds
i wouldnt skimp on asw
if sandy doesnt kill a sub in one go her chance of autoing to hit it again is lower than a dd's
frail latch
oh i have the plates for it now i guess i will
past edge
quite unlucky
hollow sable
this is why momo carries my hedgehog and my dds use asw plane uni and depth charge
but also i dont do boss so idk
timid slate
Just a +10 purple depth was enough on my CLs when 1:1ing
frail latch
i've been cycling uni/indep + sandy and random dds
upper ibex
sheesh
upper ibex
stupid out of ammo node 
vale flume
blud is using normal ships
upper ibex
for 1:1?
frail latch
upper ibex
i doubt lol
upper ibex
i tried her but shes like ultra slow on boss on 125, tho i only have +13 baguette gun
the gold one
vale flume
<a:CooperDance:693749346516205629>
no subs? no guam?
frail latch
subs use so much oil and i dont have guam
timid slate
but would lvl100 be enough <:Ehhssex:611004140046254080>
For just mobbing on safe probably
hollow sable
frail latch
my only vg cross is my 1LB z52 
timid slate
Do you have her aug yet?
vale flume
you don't let them fight but they still hit some nodes and reduce their hp
hollow sable
she's retrofitted but missing her skill because bulin
frail latch
that still costs oil
frail latch
what
timid slate
Skill wouldn't do anything before leveling anyways
hollow sable
only calling them support mode into actual battles cost oils
vale flume
yeah
frail latch
i say that bc i swear i've watched my oil go down from a sub strike before
hollow sable
would be nice to not have to speedrun her to 125 post event
frail latch
but good to know i guess
upper ibex
their passive attack shouldnt cost oil from subs
hollow sable
what could possibly go wrong, aquila carries anyway tbh
flat shoal
pardon my excel skills, here's the point to runs converter
timid slate
Aqui Sandy pog 
hollow sable
whats a good bootleg gun for sandy, harbin gun or twin128 better?
flat shoal
pardon my excel skills, here's the point to runs converter
just fill in the boxed blanks
frail latch
i use twin128 
hollow sable
or twin100 gold
timid slate
I'd go harb gun
frail latch
which gun is that
hollow sable
i need to check how close i am to 100kai actually but its not a high prio, since harbin is more consistent for katsu 
pr5 dd gun
timid slate
My go to when my better DD guns are being hogged
frail latch
twin130?
vale flume
Aquila is fat, don't you guys have Ryuuhou or Zuihou?
hollow sable
Aquila is fat, don't you guys have Ryuuhou or Zuihou?
i dont
frail latch
my only non uni healer is shouhou
flat shoal
hehe close to 16% too aurora
hollow sable
itll be cool to try sandy also since i havent seen her fight since i retroed her
frail latch
hollow sable
49/309 hvar, also got a 5th hornet
hollow sable
10/25 4th harbin, 40/50 plygun yeah im leaving pr5 with 4 harbins
flat shoal
what's aurora's points
frail latch
hollow sable
65970
flat shoal
did I calculate stuff wrong or smth lol
hollow sable
ngl but this looks a bit sus
frail latch
did you include the 1k points from the 3day login rewards
frail latch
it looked fine to me until i saw this 
hollow sable
i told u
hollow sable
she's retrofitted but missing her skill because bulin
i can just 3* event later if its needed but otherwise im lazy and will do it later
frail latch
dont forget to use this on her for optimal dmg
hollow sable
#trophy-room message since here i stop 3/day
idk if that's 1 or 2
is sandy dying
a little bit
does she need hedgehog tbh
flat shoal
time to debug
frail latch
does she need hedgehog tbh
if shes not doing boss then no
hollow sable
mmmm
with 3* on 0 ammo, is it too risky to keep doing?
ig the risk lessens the more i do it...
upper ibex
she will die
frail latch
you have your daily free repair so you can exit and use it if you need to
flat shoal
aurora sus
hollow sable
that's after all mobs
idk if i wanna get her to a safer hpwith toolkit but risk aquila not having safe hp
i just get very paranoid below 50%
frail latch
actually without her skills and underleveled im not sure you clear the out of ammo node fast enough to not need asw
hollow sable
she's using hedge
and did fine considering 3* node
that technically should be on the worse end of rng
i'll book her to 105 and call it a day
hollow sable
oh yeah i ll do that
frail latch
it's actually so funny once you unlock her barrage
hollow sable
ngl i wish i got more tlr skins
frail latch
screen full of stars
frail latch
the main thing that bothers me about skins is how impossible it is to have a full set of matching planes
hollow sable
screen full of stars
you're brilliant and sandy is brilliant
frail latch
flat shoal
you're brilliant and sandy is brilliant
have you ever forgot to do hard mode, or do a run for x3 or 3 starring?
hollow sable
have you ever forgot to do hard mode, or do a run for x3 or 3 starring?
i havent done hard mode today yet i think?
i also havent done any x3 runs
yet (inevitably there will be one for 3*)
single minded hvar focus yada yada
i have no idea
hollow sable
~~gold star shell diff~~
how
but this is legit
sandy has like 30% more hp on battle 5 than before LOL
frail latch
hollow sable
probably just rng but it's really funny it happens after giving her a skin
flat shoal
I think it's just rng yea
hollow sable
2* on 0 ammo but 
you cant make this up tho
the timing
🌟
guess momo is out and i can get some exp while grinding, poggers
or i'll kick nana out since indep momo was more safe than indep nana
actually, uni sandy, indep momo, aquila nana makes the most sense
flat shoal
I still don't understand how my thing doesn't work 
upper ibex
I still don't understand how my thing doesn't work <:sadcat:592137883318747146>
it kinda does for me wdym
its possible i just messed up counting 1-1 runs when i was running without help and also daily first run bug
flat shoal
no I mean like the number of runs are not whole numbers for some reason
vale flume
its possible i just messed up counting 1-1 runs when i was running without help ...
what is the daily first run bug?
frail latch
for me it's maybe from the runs 3starring c1-d2
flat shoal
itsuha what's ur total point
vale flume
can't c
flat shoal
for me it's maybe from the runs 3starring c1-d2
no wonder lol
vale flume
over 50k
upper ibex
what is the daily first run bug?
when you are doing more than one run sweep with help and day changes then idk what happens
if my 3x run just gets lost or counted or idk
but after finishing the 3x help sweep i didnt have 3x bonus
vale flume
strange, but yeah I'd avoid doing anything when the daily reset hits just in case
frail latch
no wonder lol
is that not normal i wanted the oil and bulins
flat shoal
no, totally normal, it's just that's why the sheet doesn't work cause it doesn't account for a1 to b3 runs
frail latch
eh i'd rather just ignore a and b maps
flat shoal
aurora's even weirder, I spent like 15 minutes trying some combinations of quest she missed and couldn't find one easily
maybe lied 
hollow sable
or i just dont remember
but the point i told u at the time is accurate
but i have no idea which missions i did or not
flat shoal
yeah I guess true
frail latch
i suppose thats reasonable when you dont need the points
hollow sable
didnt want to get it mixed with d3 data, dont need the points, and it lacks clearing rewards
wait maybe that's why i had 1 extra hvar bp earlier i missed
flat shoal
got it lmao
hollow sable
flat shoal
309 indeed
frail latch
didnt want to get it mixed with d3 data, dont need the points, and it lacks clea...
you forgot "wanted to fuck with doggo" 
flat shoal
hollow sable
good to know my run count is correct even after so long
flat shoal
ngl I'm kinda irritated trying to find one working combination for 15 minutes, but mb though my faith on my math skills was too small
hollow sable
my bad for forgetting about sp
valid oriole
i m deserting the battlefield soldiers
today's rate was kinda lame 
timid slate
Don't fall here there's always tomorrow 
valid oriole
i made my mind to do 3+1 
not enough plates
also yeah doing quadrillion runs without seeing a drop is a detrimental blow
vale flume
oh wait no, I have 65k pts
I'm top4 in glex
I was zombie playing until 4am, I forgot
flat shoal
3+1 what?
flat shoal
tbh yeah with how the rate/oil is like 24k for one
tomorrow I'll try low fleet myself and see if 16k achievable
vale flume
I can't go lower than 19 or 20 oil
flat shoal
why though? you can manipulate avi req by using halford or shirakami fubuki or just rumey
or at least with a 125 ranger
this is so dilemma, at the end we always ask the big question, "was it worth"
vale flume
I have avi req, I don't see your point
flat shoal
oh you can't do with ranger ddg?
I guess yeah, it depends on how good your crossfleets are too
vale flume
I can do Shouhou + ddg, I don't have a lvl125 ranger lol
timid slate
this is so dilemma, at the end we always ask the big question, "was it worth"
Just imagine that you stop grinding and then they add the hvars to limited core shop to fuck with us
flat shoal
hollow sable
im gonna do 4+1 just you watch
vale flume
can you even get S every time with Ranger ddg?
timid slate
i have 37k mail still
I believe 
hollow sable
plus next week's oil yada yada
upper ibex
can you even get S every time with Ranger ddg?
no
hollow sable
about 60k for my first 2, at same rate it's guaranteed, but i can miss if bad luck strikes too hard i think
vale flume
I have the feeling that hvar will be part of Research 8
hollow sable
but it's not a gear from wows is it
nor for a specific ship
research gear generally comes for a specific ship, like twin457 georgia gun, 406mle champy gun
vale flume
are washing machines from wows or whatever?
flat shoal
:aurorahope:
hollow sable
thats cos they were the actual wows guns and shit used on those ships in wows
not ALL
stuff that is in multiple seasons shouldnt be afaik
like staag isnt
but harbin gun is harbin gun, la-9 is nakh plane im pretty sure
hindy gun
gritty heart
are washing machines from wows or whatever?
They were added in because 
hollow sable
tenrai is hakuplane
timid slate
Yeah I don't think it's gonna be on research, best case scenario they add it on Gear Lab and it's cheap
flat shoal
if la-9 nakhplane what is the polikarpov
gritty heart
The non-auxilary equipment is wows derived
hollow sable
the what
flat shoal
the dark vit
gritty heart
The auxiliary equipment isn't part of wows
hollow sable
maybe also nakh plane
timid slate
Halford seaplane that I have a billion of
hollow sable
the white vit2 is probably chlakov's plane
vale flume
then what about the white diver?
gritty heart
the dark vit
Nakhimov's plane
flat shoal
su2 and vit
hollow sable
oh i see...ruppy doesnt get a unique gear
valid oriole
harbin and chkalov
hollow sable
WOW manjuu
timid slate
Chaklov is PR5
flat shoal
it's always the pink hair
valid oriole
what both ?
timid slate
oh i see...ruppy doesnt get a unique gear
Not all ships get matching gear
Bayard also got nothing in 7
gritty heart
Yes that happens
hollow sable
for pr7 we have bayardgun, daisengun, halfordplane, napoligun, and 2 nakhplanes
gritty heart
Btw STAAG should be from Cheshire
gritty heart
Napoli's secondary
flat shoal
that's sardegna loll
hollow sable
ok so yeah not all ships
timid slate
Nap has 2 guns
hollow sable
but all the guns and planes in research do belong to the ships
is what i meant lol
all gun/plane is the ships, not all ships have a designated gun/plane
there we go
aux is universal so doesnt belong to any, probably same for aa
gritty heart
No, AA has ships belonging to it
hollow sable
well there's a couple so maybe yea
gritty heart
90mm is Marco's gun
flat shoal
why is pr1 and pr2 so poor
timid slate
No, AA has ships belonging to it
AA from PR4 is Marco's isn't it?
hollow sable
they missed a comma
gritty heart
Yes what I was saying
timid slate
Yes what I was saying
Yup sorry, read it as I was just pressing send
hollow sable
so either get them now or risk limited coredata, regular coredata but still monthly timegated, or a bunch of electronics and ords 
tho also it should remain farmable in warchives
frail latch
but it's not a gear from wows is it
what are wows 
timid slate
tho also it should remain farmable in warchives
I forgor about that
frail latch
flat shoal
idk if 1 hvar is worth 27k oil and like 9 hours of helpful farming
hollow sable
it's a game AL has an ongoing collab with for years
it's where pr/dr and research originate
frail latch
huh neat
hollow sable
idk if 1 hvar is worth 27k oil and like 9 hours of helpful farming
what else you gonna farm
timid slate
idk if 1 hvar is worth 27k oil and like 9 hours of helpful farming
That's gonna depend on you tbh
For me it is but I've also saved almost 2 years of mail for it
frail latch
the new ur converging tbs in february
timid slate
I think the minimum everyone should get is 2 for yorkii kear after that it's your call
I know I want 5
flat shoal
time to suffer on cog chips, big L with 2480 cogs on 2 unicorns, and some more for not farming w12, omg 27k oil can give you like 2k cog chips
hollow sable
who told you to make multiple unicorns
flat shoal
me
hollow sable
time to suffer on cog chips, big L with 2480 cogs on 2 unicorns, and some more f...
what is this nutter nonsense
frail latch
Ok +10 hedgehog made the difference I guess
hollow sable
wait actually
flat shoal
myself and I also told the same thing
frail latch
4secs to spare
flat shoal
wtf
gritty heart
Ok +10 hedgehog made the difference I guess
Rip no retrofit sandy
hollow sable
cog chip farm has always been mega cope and only done bc it's not like you have anything better to do
this is for ch12 full fleet
ch13 1-1 is much higher cog/oil but still inarguably shit
frail latch
Rip no retrofit sandy
hollow sable
1:04 is still way too close to me
gritty heart
Oh wait I'm blind
frail latch
yeah same lmao
hollow sable
bad rng uni misses a couple bombs and torps and you lose S
gritty heart
Should use Endem if you have her
hollow sable
<:MutsukiCurse:585585240496537621>
yeah
frail latch
i do not
hollow sable
the real cog strategy is to prioritize any comm giving cogs over oil comms
because it's many times more efficient for cogs/oil
valid oriole
bad rng uni misses a couple bombs and torps and you lose S
isn't that called skill diff
frail latch
wait who is endem
gritty heart
the real cog strategy is to prioritize any comm giving cogs over oil comms
That's totally RNG though, you can get only so many at once
vale flume
I never understood the cog drama, I still have over 70k?
hollow sable
she ignores out of ammo
frail latch
ah
gritty heart
also pointless for me because I have 150k cogs still
hollow sable
That's totally RNG though, you can get only so many at once
right but the point is you make next to 0 cogs from ch12
timid slate
I think L'Audi should be good for 1:1 too
hollow sable
so ppl who might be going oil comms to farm ch12 for cogs would benefit from changing their comm priorities
gritty heart
Are you going to run Bearn? She needs a French ship
timid slate
I never understood the cog drama, I still have over 70k?
Once you start farming tech your cogs go down quickly
timid slate
Are you going to run Bearn? She needs a French ship
Oh true
hollow sable
it's at best a supplement and tiny bonus for grinding ch12+ in general
flat shoal
I am very mad that I didn't take cogs over cubes tbh
hollow sable
and not something you ever realistically rely on for income
frail latch
wasnt there a tempesta ship that gave +1 ammo
hollow sable
might get you 1-2 extra 120s per year, which isnt nothing but it's still just a bonus really
any that equips round shot aux
but they have no asw
frail latch
oh it's the aux
gritty heart
wasnt there a tempesta ship that gave +1 ammo
Technically all of them can
hollow sable
and also you would need 7 ammo
gritty heart
It's the aux yeah
frail latch
oh no asw might be a problem 
frail latch
right
hollow sable
gritty heart
I am very mad that I didn't take cogs over cubes tbh
I think you'd be running fairly short on cubes then
frail latch
hollow sable
ships that ignore ammo like emden would be much better if you want
timid slate
Also tempesta has no AA and CV nodes exist
frail latch
uni carries aa
hollow sable
gems > cubes > cogs > oil
imo
tbf tho ive been known to prioritize cogs+bigoil over cubes for nightcomm sometimes
frail latch
where do gold ship comms go in your prio list
hollow sable
cos it's guaranteed payout
gritty heart
uni carries aa <:UniFlox:721896663056384000>
+13 Wyvern and Flapjack 
hollow sable
cube is 33% chance
but also i farm urgents so i get cubes from much shorter comms, that plays a part in my decisions too
hollow sable
where do gold ship comms go in your prio list <:AkagiLUL:531988392699887616>
meme tier
ive done it a couple times just for fun
no ship yet...
gritty heart
Overnight commission only
hollow sable
also
frail latch
at least it still comes with oil
timid slate
I once got Belfast out of it so that's something I guess
hollow sable
its actually not a bad comm per se it has a very good coin:oil ratio LOL
gritty heart
I got a bunch of common ships from the various ship comms lol
vale flume
I'm not going to farm fleet tech, I'm chill
hollow sable
if you have it overnight it's not bad if your night comms were lacking
but it's a niche situation
timid slate
I don't think the pool has ever been updated from the 2019 ships
flat shoal
time to log off, gn HNM
vale flume
gn doggo
timid slate
Nightnight
frail latch
best i got from them was a lexington
hollow sable
medals are a nice reward tbh
timid slate
I love my medals from all the Hornii drops
gritty heart
I average about 500 a month which IIRC is pretty low
Probably going be higher for this event as I am finally going to use oil from mail
tame ingot
so the play here is to use 1:1 with crossflet to maximise run yeah ?
grave canopy
Yeah
Full fleet is also an option if u have good oil stockpile
But 1:1 is less headache
tame ingot
hmm a full would cost 257 oil per run. how many would i need assuming i might go with total 4 plane includinng shop
grave canopy
Full fleet needs 45k oil per hvar
150 oil fleet needs 26k oil per hvar
Cheapest fleet is 94 oil and needs 17k oil per hvar but 94 oil fleet will die to mobs sometimes so I stopped running it
tame ingot
45k
grave canopy
It takes sth like 170 runs per hvar 
If u use help tickets u need half the runs since it counts as double run
Be sure to use em if u have
tame ingot
my 150ish oil comp is uni - sd. dont know a better comp
grave canopy
Yeah that is a good comp
Just run 11 oil CVL with 9-10 oil vanguard
Ddg are good options
tame ingot
oh nah my team playing and actually got a A run . gonna redo their equipment
only chang chun as ddg. how well is she compared to sd ?
grave canopy
Probably similar level
With any proper cvl they will clear easily
Your D3 should be safe threat tho
If it isnt just run unicorn with her till the map is safe
gritty heart
45k <:MutsukiHyperStare:588629678017871872>
Unless you get lucky and get 25 HVAR prints with 0.2% drop rate like me
tame ingot
think ill try uni - ddg and see how it goes
acoustic bay
スイ一トパン leaderboard
grave canopy
Japan does not play around
true owl
Fellow HVAR grinder
timid slate
Fellow HVAR grinder <:Blessex:753375684126310451>
how many bps have you dropped?
||top tier shipfu taste btw||
true owl
51 so far, I'm running 150 oil fleets (mostly)
vocal glen
51 so far, I'm running 150 oil fleets (mostly)
How come
I’m 22 prints after 150 sorties
pastel badger
rng
grave canopy
He said 150 oil fleets not 150 sorties 
pastel badger
i en'd
upper ingot
I'm a robot: retire/enchant, swap gear and start run.
Rince and repeat 10h later
I don't want to look at my drop
vale flume
we are all in the same boat
I took a "rest" to do hard, SP and the survey, but that's it
upper ibex
ok 70 print 520 run, im just gonna farm 10 daily and leave 1 extra day as flexibility
valid oriole
looks like sleepy didn't sleep 
upper ibex
i used about 210 helps
upper ibex
how much points are you? 
valid oriole
40 in 78k
upper ibex
im 108k
timid slate
Have I been getting exceptionally lucky without realizing? I'm 75k with 52 drops
valid oriole
i mean do the number of drops divided by the total number of runs and see whre are u from 14%
D1 D3 19 > 0
D1 SP 0
D2 D3 190 > 31
D2 SP 0
D3 D3 100 > 6
D3 SP 1
D4 D3 25 > 2
D4 SP ?
this is my chart
D3 was at 6% that is why i got cucked
timid slate
I don't actually know my exact number of runs, I can eyeball it by approximate number of helps used but that's it 
160-70ish helps
upper ibex
if u did every other point gain thing like me then thatd be 32k point gap which is like 180 runs, so 520-180, around 340
52/340 is pretty damn good
0.152
timid slate
I gamble good?! brb buying lottery rn
But thanks for running my numbers 
should be a bit lower because I forgot to do SP and hard yesterday but it's super good still
upper ibex
valid oriole
rabi 
tight shale
just be sure you out of oil the last day of the event
so there be no regrets
and then, event after this new meta equipement from d3 drops
upper ibex
tight shale
it's enough if i get 3 , i don't have that much oil
valid oriole
the hvar count imo is determined by how many +13 planes and plates that u have
grave canopy
No one can predict the future
U NEED 0 HVARs
We farm it cuz we want to
Ykii antilight fleet used 5 HVARs
Dont beat yourself over it
Farm as many as u can without burning out
No need to stress about it
It WILL he added to perma source
U havent had it so far and u are fine
upper ibex
100 prints in 40k oil? damn bro
grave canopy
that is super lucky
vale flume
I was thinking of stopping at 4 for the Rumey, Nya, Soyuz fleet (just because I like these ships and have them oathed), I'm glad that it's actually even better than Kearsage's
grave canopy
Was like 990 per 3x run with 2x coupons?
sounds about right yeah
vale flume
I'm close to 75 bps (including the free 25)
upper ibex
Was like 990 per 3x run with 2x coupons?
my avg cost is lower but it still cost me ~70k oil for 70 prints
valid oriole
why did u book a ship that u are using 
timid slate
pastel badger
so 5 is possible
upper ibex
timid slate
so 5 is possible
This was helped mind but apparently yes
tight shale
so 5 is possible
1 from each siren node and 2 from boss i think
acoustic bay
which is more efficient for hvar prints, the 3 elites at the start or doing the entire map?
vale flume
shrimple
apparently doing the boss is worth it because it has better rates
so it adds up in the end
grave canopy
It needs 3 extra mobs tho 
But yeah the logistics of doing elites only is 
U also dont get clearing rewards
acoustic bay
hollow sable
boss is equal to ~6 elites so it's always worth it
acoustic bay
:god:
hollow sable
today is not so good - 51/344
pastel badger
im at 64
flat shoal
i think you either update daily or update every run
acoustic bay
gambling
gritty heart
Over 110 k is like 500ish runs?
grave canopy
depends how many easy maps u have done
this is with only daily missions and 3x D3
pastel badger
this mf
im almost out of oil
like 30k left
the futures grim
i might need to settle for 4
grave canopy
stop with the next one
u need 26k with low oil
only have enough for 1 more
I wouldnt go for 2 more
acoustic bay
damn lil enty is full speed ahead
gritty heart
Assuming 530 runs, 64/530 ~ 0.12 print/run drop rate
grave canopy
no point in farming even 24 prints if u cant go for 25 full prints
gritty heart
Aka your are quite unlucky
grave canopy
damn lil enty is full speed ahead
only #2
pastel badger
you underestimate my ability faer
gritty heart
My drop rate finally dipped below 0.2 prints per run lol, at 20/103 right now
grave canopy
you underestimate my ability faer
I just mean less than 25 is useless
so be sure u have enough for the next one
acoustic bay
Is it possible to calc the points i get from d3? Only touched that stage and took the extra pts from missions
pastel badger
inb4 15 bps in one 3x
gritty heart
Is it possible to calc the points i get from d3? Only touched that stage and too...
It's just 180 points per run
So 1 C1 to D3 + 2 D3 + daily points
grave canopy
Is it possible to calc the points i get from d3? Only touched that stage and too...
sure
gimme your data I will input for u
did u do all SP and all missions everyday?
so far?
pastel badger
3 3x with help
not a single print
stray lance
I'm sitting on 75 prints in 120 helps
gritty heart
You might barely reach 3
gritty heart
I'm sitting on 75 prints in 120 helps
First time in this event?
Anyway I think you got the 0.2 rate lol
pastel badger
You might barely reach 3
me?
grave canopy
75/240 prob means 50 farmed only
hollow sable
50/240 is still ridiculously good
gritty heart
Should still be 4 in total
hollow sable
almost 0.21
pastel badger
Reach 3 HVARs from drops yeah
i need 10 more bps
i dont think its that bad
stray lance
75/240 prob means 50 farmed only
10 are from progression. have not claimed shop yet. so 65/240
gritty heart
I'm sitting on 75 prints in 120 helps
What's your point total
stray lance
What's your point total
just over 50k, I believe
grave canopy
stray lance
I appreciate your financial support
pastel badger
im at a 0.10 i think
flat shoal
wow, my alt account is so unlucky today, not only it overcapped, it also not getting any prints after 20k points
vale flume
unlegit rank1
tight shale
which is more efficient for hvar prints, the 3 elites at the start or doing the ...
yep, also as a matter of fact i got 0 bp in 104 elites farm in sp stage so boss drops are definetly better than elites and doing the whole map is woth it
frail latch
i have officially run out of mail oil 
19 prints / 37960 points
vale flume
okay this one is officially good to go
acoustic bay
perfectgaming is not perfectgaming if they do not have at least 5 hvars on their account
because that is perfectgaming
vale flume
he can't farm anymore or his perfect score gets ruined
acoustic bay
he can't farm anymore or his perfect score gets ruined
anyways i should be reporting to faerlein
vocal glen
208 sorties. 24 prints
I got none in the last 44 sorties
hollow sable
today is a bad hvar day
flat shoal
cmon keep updating
acoustic bay
41 prints w/ 47220 points
on jpbro
hollow sable
56/383
flat shoal
alpha reached 75
gritty heart
<:Blessex:753375684126310451>
How much oil left?
grave canopy
cute number for you guys 
red sparrow
Top 15 on Avrora for only 36 prints
acoustic bay
i have a hunch that JP has better rates than EN at this rate
both my accounts have roughly 45k pts but one has more HVAR prints than the other
eager igloo
Any good indy build for low cost mobbing, those suicide boats kill her in the boss stage once in a blue moon
gritty heart
Laffey II
acoustic bay
does a DDG not work?
gritty heart
You can put hedgehog on her + the bunnies intercept by ramming
pastel badger
How much oil left?
20k
hollow sable
the 4 hvar dream is drifting away as my luck goes bad
gritty heart
How much oil left vs prints?
gritty heart
Nah your luck was just good, there someone here with a ~0.25 ratio
flat shoal
33k 0.22 is normal, i had 37k 0.24 last time
hollow sable
someone had 0.27
smh
anyway im low end 0.14 now
nvm up to mid end 0.15
4 drop nice
62/401
pastel badger
i mean why not
flat shoal
i mean why not
grave canopy
still good 17%
rugged heart
118k points
red sparrow
Ive gotten 14 eagle tech boxes out of my last 30 runs
Not a single print
Am i cooked?
gritty heart
118k points
~0.17 print per run
rugged heart
i was around .14 until the last 25
hollow sable
flat shoal
0.17 is 22% more drops than 0.14
hollow sable
i have only 17k mail left or so
gritty heart
i was around .14 until the last 25
The luck came back
hollow sable
plus next week oil things
im cooked
64/413 isnt even bad it's just average but i need a bit of luck to get to 100
at this rate ill need to be able to hit ~650 runs
hollow sable
about 40k oils
do i have 40k oils left
i might, actually, but idk
itll be down to the wire i expect 
pastel badger
i barely have enough for a 5th
pastel badger
the bigger problem is ill have 0 oil for the next event
i dont care about next event
i am
a casual player
flat shoal
a casual player
pastel badger
not wrong
hollow sable
gotta get rumey avp plymouth sandy to 125
i'll do oil maths after this run 
gotta have a good shot at 4 to be worth going past 3 cos otherwise it's wasted
flat shoal
gritty heart
gotta get rumey avp plymouth sandy to 125 <:EntyLUL:522425982758682637>
How many ships so far
hollow sable
oils
current: 6827
mail: 17200
canteen hours left: 9216
weekly pack: 4000
weekly task: 2900
daily tasks: 1276 (after HM cost)
total = 41419
prints = ~33 at 0.15
oh im very safe actually cos this is ignoring all comms
still close if i dip to 0.14 or especially 0.13 though
gritty heart
Btw did you buy event oil yet
hollow sable
yea
hollow sable
How many ships so far
idk but those i need for this months CM
flat shoal
this is so sad
eager igloo
You can put hedgehog on her + the bunnies intercept by ramming
Yeah nvm I forgot to equip hedgehog to her back lol, I switched it out to test 14-4 and just forgot to switch it back
upper ibex
118k points
did u craft the one from shop+milepoints?
rugged heart
didnt craft any yet 100 farmed + 25 shop
upper ibex
upper ibex
im prolly gonna end up at like 150k for 5 copies total
past edge
my hvar print gain v0.11
285 runs ??? oil 35 hvar
4x SP 213 oil per, 1 hvar
sadge
valid oriole
working overnight
timid slate
Officially less than 10 prints away from my target
I see light at the end of the tunnel
true owl
Got my 3rd copy 28.1k points later 
upper ibex
1 run no help 
fossil nacelle
so that's probably 1 from each elite and 1 from boss
or 2 from elites and 2 from boss
daaamn
gritty heart
Approximately 1 in 10000 chance
upper ibex
yea kinda insane, i only had enough morale for 1 run before swapping so i was watching as well
vale flume
gm saltmine
I'm starting now, 4th day, let's get the 4th hvar
I might stop after that, most likely, I only have 60k in reserve
upper ibex
good luck 🙏
acoustic bay
@pastel badger what's your status now, done with the hvar farming?
grave canopy
2 from SP 
vale flume
I want out of this drive mister manjuu
you either go 4 multis with helps and no drops or you get 4 prints in just 2 normal runs
pastel badger
<@793212439583129630> what's your status now, done with the hvar farming?
101 out of 125
18k oil left in storage
Ima just use passive oil + weekly supply pack and weekly missions
gritty heart
Did a few more runs, 23/112 prints/run
vale flume
pastel badger
Rookie numbers
sly light
Rookie numbers
I only saw my first Hornet around 70k lol
I am nearing 100k points and I still don't have enough to MLB her.
pastel badger
I have enough to mlb 2
uncut bison
I don't want more Hornet IIs, give me more HVARs
valid oriole
aurora is going for 5 ?
hollow sable
4 + 1 yes
valid oriole
yeah u shouldn't +13 any
hollow sable
i still disagree with it cos its not like youll get a million la9s super fast
i think +13ing a couple is fine if you're active in opsi
valid oriole
if u plan to +13 one then u might consider not farming 4 hvars
hollow sable
i already have 1 +13 and 3 total in general
me getting 5 hvar is more about being allergic to gearswapping than anything
tough meteor
hollow sable
wont need to swap bfgs from medium
idk honestly but to me moar gear is never bad, just means moar options
vale flume
u don't have any bf at +13 ?
what's a bf? pls give bf
hollow sable
more waifus geared up
upper ibex
me getting 5 hvar is more about being allergic to gearswapping than anything
🤝 i have ~4 rows of rudder and catapult for a reason
vale flume
no really, what is a bf
upper ibex
pr5 rocket fighter
upper ibex
oh its 4? sry 
hollow sable
🤝 i have ~4 rows of rudder and catapult for a reason
ive gotten a surprising number of catapults from d3 gold boxes at this point so this event is just in general
think 4 or 5 even
flat shoal
1 run no help <:Blessex:772705563137409084>
WORLD RECORD???
hollow sable
most likely is
timid slate
ive gotten a surprising number of catapults from d3 gold boxes at this point so ...
We've found the next stage of Stockholm Syndrome boys
or are you sweet talking the event so it drops more prints for you
hollow sable
it's either 1 in ~4.5 million or 1 in ~140k depending on where it all dropped from
something like that
so actually not world record no but still a very rare occurrence
flat shoal
everybody's getting lucky today huh
timid slate
I spent all my luck yesterday 
the last 5 prints I need are taking forever to drop
hollow sable
getting 5 in 1 run tho
should be around 1 in 9 million
if i do this right
just probability of elite 1 * p elite 2 * p elite 3 * p boss 2x?
right
and then 1 divided by that
timid slate
I got more prints in that run than in the last 20k oil
upper ibex
just do lottery at that point instead
hollow sable
it probably isnt exactly like that but idk how to do it
think it's just probability of getting 2 5-bp runs in a row right
so just all multiply idk
timid slate
You know the odds are totally in your favor when the probability has letters on it 
upper ibex
yes
hollow sable
tbh im sure someones gotten 5 in non-help before, 1 in 9 million isnt that big considering the playerbase and even a smaller fraction of it doing dozens or hundreds of runs
maybe it will be one of you 
upper ibex
if rates are 1.5% (elite), 6% (boss) 50% (double drop from boss) then it should be 0.015^6×0.06^2×0.5^2
for 10
vocal glen
211 sorties - 26 prints
I have the oil but I’m not sure enough days to get another 24. It took me 2 days and a morning to get 6 prints.
Shall I All-in? Or keep the oil in the mail just in case.
hollow sable
you have almost exactly half the eventtime left (+30 mins)
you most likely can if you have the spare time
pastel badger
is 8 bps possible for one run with help
not 3x
hollow sable
it shouldnt be
hollow sable
...i hate that you're right
vocal glen
you have almost exactly half the eventtime left (+30 mins)
But if the pace keeps on. I’m not gonna make it.
I have 1 skyraider and 3 hvars. Do I need another one?
hollow sable
not really
tho ill say 26/211 is quite below average result, your luck might turn around if willing to chance it
pastel badger
ive heard these words many times 🧓
hollow sable
i do believe that all luck eventually evens out
but it might not be where you expect/hope it to be
for example didnt you get a billion hornets that's where your hvar droprate went
pastel badger
just got a 14th
vocal glen
for example didnt you get a billion hornets <:EntyLUL:522425982758682637> that's...
I got zero Hornets from D3
hollow sable
just got a 14th <:MurmWat:839635014256951296>
she really REALLY likes you
i have 6 atm
pastel badger
can i get 21 bps with 67 helps
timid slate
can i get 21 bps with 67 helps <:NagaThonk:721896665174376539>
134 runs for 21 BPs is within expected outcome I think
Bad luck can fuck you over though
hollow sable
0.1567