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#HVAR nolifer megathread
hollow sable
timid slate
1 BP drop in 7k oil very pog
rugged heart
youre already over oil cap
timid slate
I mean you're losing xp so yeah
hollow sable
you might as well do full fleet if not 1:1
also im wondering if i have my teams wrong
tough meteor
Yeahhhhh okay. It was 1:1 but I switched it up just now loll
hollow sable
maybe aquila nana and indep momo make more sense
tough meteor
I was using a Phoenix and bulin combo
rugged heart
ranger/cassins working for me but boss takes almost 2 mins
timid slate
how does phoenix and burin live
hollow sable
they just were in uhhh all earlier maps ????? wtf XD
like legit in d1 indep was at 40%
wild game balancing
timid slate
Here's what I'm using
Expensive but fast
hollow sable
oh once at safe i should try 1:1 boss ig
rugged heart
cheap but slow
rugged heart
probably faster once ranger 120
timid slate
RNGer gaming 
unkempt sand
20 runs no bp 
hollow sable
3 runs 0 bp
stray lance
2 bp just from the 3 runs to clear
hollow sable
unrelated but 
hamm2 12th pull thank manjuu
brittle locust
cheap but slow
is that cassin?
rugged heart
yea
runic wigeon
Hmm Shimakaze or Ply to pair with uni for 1:1?
shima most likely with preloads
timid slate
I'm gonna try it now
Man Z52 would be great here but mine is still lv110
hollow sable
z52 expensive doe
runic wigeon
less than ply
timid slate
she'd be slower for now, but might be worth
timid slate
I have 180k oil saved just for this event
runic wigeon
💀
hollow sable
oh if i pair nana with aquila i gotta give nana a real gun apparently
aquila leaves 1 side mob alive on elites which takes like 15s to die
fuckin weird
valid oriole
these are my stats 
D1 D3 19 > 0
D1 SP 0
D2 D3 24 > 4
D2 SP 0
runic wigeon
you guys using their own gear or swapping gear
hollow sable
ill probably just constantly swap all 6 ships around in random pairs based on morale tbh
they all seem to work
own gear atm
valid oriole
i m swapping since i only have 4 +13 cata
upper ibex
i swap hedgehog
hollow sable
subs turned out to actually only exist in c1-d1
so
in terms of actually hurting my backline i mean
valid oriole
subs didn't kill zui for me on almost lethal and the fight took around 1:40
she was lvl 117
runic wigeon
might not matter too much since just few clicks, but i save the loadout on bottom, then unequip entirely, load on next ship
hollow sable
keep in mind i am not 1:1ing boss tho cos im weak
will try on safe but i still doubt
since basically no xfleet
timid slate
Boss is pushover, you'll be fine on safe imo
runic wigeon
ye i think the crossfleet, if you have it, takes away a huge chunk from boss
upper ibex
cheeky said depth charge is enough but i dont have 6 
hollow sable
idm using full fleet boss tho honestly cos all but 1 ship im using in it atm need exp so its nbd
valid oriole
u can face tank all the subs imo if u have lvl 115 at least
oak hull
Btw i have backread some, and will prolly check again after some times. Use the channel specific for minmax hvar shit not some off topic stuff, if i see some chunk is just used as offtopic i will close the thread
hollow sable
for xlfeet i only have amagi rumey z52 and z52 is 1lb
runic wigeon
better than none
hollow sable
is it enough for boss tho 
valid oriole
musasi ?
runic wigeon
and i think it's also more time efficient to boss fleet if you have a lot of oil to burn
timid slate
Amagi crosfleet is kinda good
Not BB good but better than a Nano
runic wigeon
at least it's capped
hollow sable
i need affection on rumey also, so i'll just use bossfleet then 
worn turret
intentionally taking 3* node and meet these two punks, yes you need enough aa if you want a stable full 1:1 run. still clears, 94 per run
rugged heart
whats the crossfleets?
worn turret
it is. i plan to run it more for proofing
modern monolith
running musa + alsace + yk2 + unzen + shima + halford crossfleet
10 oil mob with 0lb ranger + lv120 mahan can easily do 6 mobs and crossfleet needs to kill the boss, en should be able to do this too, 117 oil per run
hollow sable
how's the speed though?
rugged heart
shouldnt be bad with ddg
worn turret
hollow sable
i havent maxed chang chun
runic wigeon
bruh TIL halford has cross
hollow sable
been too busy with shells
timid slate
Uni Shima died at the boss
I had some horrible plane luck but still
valid oriole
avi req 
made me +13 cata
rugged heart
this too
valid oriole
avi basically made me 120 rumey with books
hollow sable
upper ibex
pastel badger
Sup
runic wigeon
dont think a lot can replicate those crossfleet
valid oriole
what is that ?
rugged heart
random aux from event that ran with guam/laffey ii
timid slate
Yep
hollow sable
1 in 6 now
timid slate
1 in 6?????????? Bro I got 3. total 
upper ibex
the 7 in 31 i said earlier was smoke because i forgot 2 of those prints were from point reward
currently its 7 in 61 
runic wigeon
💀
runic wigeon
probably shouldnt
valid oriole
this is ryuu with sandy
safe threat
timid slate
I wouldn't just for this
valid oriole
lvl 113
hollow sable
yeah nvm shes doing fine at least with uni
not sure if i can do with indep tho something to try. id like any combo of my 6 to work so i dont have to think and just change based on morale XD
valid oriole
if u are using the bossing fleet it should be a walk in the park and just focus on low costing + speed
this farming session will be a shitshow
hollow sable
rugged heart
lb0 ranger/bogue + ddg
hollow sable
i do need to spend about 20k per day
timid slate
this farming session will be a shitshow
No, we'll all get 5 HVARs trust
hollow sable
least by my napkin math earlier
valid oriole
wait u have 140k oil ?
hollow sable
estimated 125-130k but i wouldnt wanna leave a lot of farming on the last day tbh
my plan for the event opener went off mostly without a hitch, i logged in today to 20k oil stocked with nothing wasted, sadly only 1700 canteen instead of 2500 i miscalced
and i have 2 weekly packs, 2 sets of weeklys, the event oil, and 60k in oil storages
timid slate
Uni Shima died at the boss <:MutsukiHyperStare:588629678017871872>
I had some h...
Uni Z52 died at boss too
This is without hedgehog mind, time to put it to work
hollow sable
is this on safe 
timid slate
Yep
valid oriole
u just need a cracked vanguard with mogador gun
timid slate
z52 was also slower at mobs than I thought she would be
hollow sable
yeah thats
rugged heart
the 94 oil ranger/ddg fleet is working well for me
valid oriole
yeah and no musasi will be suffering
timid slate
No sushi barrage would be pain
hollow sable
yeah i just wont 
modern monolith
don't forget cats, sl3 bisha and sl2 bunny, talents are less important
hollow sable
amagi is ok, rumey is weak, and z52 basically nonexistent due to low level + not mlb
upper ibex
z52 clears with full hp lb0 backline lol
hollow sable
i dont have those either im using drake+every
valid oriole
don't forget cats, sl3 bisha and sl2 bunny, talents are less important
i m using justice am i inting here
hollow sable
oh yeah for flap vs bfg, bfg works great on uni but less so on aquila
might be due to their pairings tho
upper ibex
i just level the tempesta cats 
hollow sable
i think bfg + nana is the problem more than anything
"problem" only in that elites take like 10s longer cos a single mook lives
2 in 9
im lucky
valid oriole
did u try 1 bf 1 flap on aquila
tough meteor
with that 1:1 fleet, how much is it per run for you?
hollow sable
did u try 1 bf 1 flap on aquila <:NagaThonk:721896665174376539>
im using preload aquila
valid oriole
yeah preload is 2 fighters right ?
hollow sable
with that 1:1 fleet, how much is it per run for you?
between any combo of my 6 it ranges from 183-201
modern monolith
i m using justice am i inting here <:MutsukiHyperStare:588629678017871872>
well she's fine i guess, the map strike is good tho inconsistent, but better than nothing
hollow sable
preload is fighter+db
timid slate
I should put cats on
hollow sable
and ye im not the most efficient on oil but its what i have that works with midend gear and small xfleet
also what i have levelled
tough meteor
oh mmm maybe i wont 1:1 this event then, definitely going to do my leveling fleet. It cost 267 oil capped
hollow sable
u can go to like 110-150 oil range if better account
i bet that having a lot of fleet tech also helps for any mlb ship you end up using
as well as event rainbow gear or shit like tenrais
valid oriole
for me volga eld uni ty does it in 15 min
they are kinda zooming a lot and having moral issues
tough meteor
I'll go with this for leveling lately I've been at oil cap for so long so I guess this is a perfect event to blow some oil
timid slate
I barely have any tech and I'm using 0 +13 gear, I think the biggest thing you're missing is the crossfleet aurora
hollow sable
should i put skyraider on aquila 
valid oriole
this is my current moral i m doomed
sour shard
im using preload aquila
why preload when healing aquilla is so strong in 1:1
flat shoal
hollow sable
because i dont need the healing
timid slate
Preload fast
hollow sable
i did heal first then realized i didnt need it
anyway do i put skyraider on aquila or is helldiver better
flat shoal
how many hours do you need to do this, I can only play like 8 hours a day, though I can play full on weekends
valid oriole
should i put skyraider on aquila <:EntyLUL:522425982758682637>
aurora the #1 fan of rocket planes in campaign 
rugged heart
24/7
hollow sable
this is my current moral i m doomed
are u 1:1ing or full fleet
valid oriole
time to make a spearfish
valid oriole
<:MutsukiHyperStare:588629678017871872> are u 1:1ing or full fleet
that is 4 fleets right there
sour shard
spearfish is better than wyvern anyways but alo isnt ready for that
hollow sable
how many hours do you need to do this, I can only play like 8 hours a day, thoug...
no idea
damn you ran out of morales fast
im cooked
i havent begun helping yet
only after safe
rugged heart
pretty consistent 94 oil
tai yuan ends at 30-40% ranger 100%
if it was an shan probably 100 100
sour shard
why not another xfleet vanguard in fleet 2 🤔
valid oriole
which cats are these ?
rugged heart
i dont have unzen
hollow sable
drake and every
timid slate
Uni Shima didn't die at all with hedgehog equipped, not even close
Faster than Z52 too
Also you don't need AA at all, I had been using staag whoops
flat shoal
upper ibex
how many hours do you need to do this, I can only play like 8 hours a day, thoug...
i did ~70 runs in about 4-5 hours on off, got 7 prints, if i burn my oil (around 1200ish runs) and have same rate luck thats about 64 more prints
rugged heart
4 in 22 since ive started actually keeping track
upper ibex
thats lucky
sour shard
0 in 27
sour shard
honestly the 1:1 fleet spam is kinda brainrot
sour shard
just have 1 leveling fleet and 1 1:1 fleet to recover the leveling fleet's morale
and you'll be fine
rugged heart
xfleet dpends on if you can get enough avi from gear
musashi + 2 cv or musashi + alsace + amagi
upper ibex
i have to run 2 carriers and also no unzen
grave canopy
yeah I have most stuff I am fine
currently using sashi, alsus amagi
rugged heart
ranger + ddg w/ hedge looks 100% fine
valid oriole
what x-fleet
timid slate
I wish we had more hedgehogs, I hate swapping but 2/3 of my rotating fleets need it
Somehow, mog doesn't need it
grave canopy
does the purple asw not work?
timid slate
Hm probably! I forgot it existed!
valid oriole
just unequip all and use the preset 
upper ibex
still annoying
rugged heart
just 0 affinity
upper ibex
i dont have 6 depth charges so im stuck with swapping hedgehog, otherwise i could tell you if it works for sure, but cheeky said it does
stray lance
Sara works pretty well too for 1:1 backline
upper ibex
yuudachi just let through like 5 planes that revealed my bogue and then enemy bb onetapped her
stray lance
4 prints down, 121 to go...
uncut bison
3 prints in 7k oil nice
hollow sable
4 prints down, 121 to go...
you're cooked
timid slate
4 prints down, 121 to go...
Are you really gunning for 5HVARs from drops
timid slate
Max I've ever seen used in a fleet is 5 but we get one from shop+milestone
So really 4 drops should be like, 100 perfect achievement
stray lance
Are you really gunning for 5HVARs from drops
I missed this event the first time around. Aiming for 5, will be happy with 3
Have 213k oil saved for this
hollow sable
oh goddawmn
timid slate
The thing it's that you're racing the clock
stray lance
do you have the time?
I work from home and have this on my 2nd monitor. I can play maybe 16-18 hours a day
uncut bison
do you have the time?
The only limitation is the goddamn morale
hollow sable
that's also time-based
uncut bison
Even with dorm
timid slate
5 HVARs were already nolifers back then and that was with 2 weeks
upper ibex
and higher droprate apparently
hollow sable
with triple the rates 5 hvar would be fucking EASY
stray lance
If I get 5, I should get some kind od Dicord role, like "The man with no life"
uncut bison
Pray they add it to gear lab soon
timid slate
Yep the one bug they bother to fix 
hollow sable
hmm im thinking momo indep still safer for indep then will trade after this
timid slate
Pray they add it to gear lab soon
I'm omegacoping with the fact that UR reruns seem to get archived faster
grave canopy
triple rates only needed 3-4h grind per day
hollow sable
funny delay after battle when enemy sub spawns after victory (nana did victory dance already)
took about 5s to reach S screen
hollow sable
triple rates only needed 3-4h grind per day <:JavSigh:666111453786275849>
manjuu hate newbies
upper ibex
grave canopy
honestly it will soon be added to gear lab/core shop
u guys dont need to go hard
I wouldnt use all oil on it
what if february event has a good gear to farm
upper ibex
yeah
grave canopy
farm 2 and get third
uncut bison
I'm omegacoping with the fact that UR reruns seem to get archived faster
Judging from when NJ was added to perma pool, and her gun releasing. It's still a 6 month gap
stray lance
honestly it will soon be added to gear lab/core shop
u guys dont need to go hard...
I will be supplementing my oil with gems 5x a day during this event, so I should have some oil left still
uncut bison
You're looking at October/November this year for yk2 to be added to perma pool + 6 months
timid slate
honestly it will soon be added to gear lab/core shop
u guys dont need to go hard...
I hear you, but on the other hand:
Have they ever done an event with gear that's desirable to farm other than this one
uncut bison
Basically next year
upper ibex
some very old events had good gear (at that time)
stray lance
I hear you, but on the other hand:
Have they ever done an event with gear that's...
Back in the day Iris of Light and Dark was good to farm for Baguette gun (was best DD gun at the time)
grave canopy
I hear you, but on the other hand:
Have they ever done an event with gear that's...
that is fair I guess 
rugged heart
maybe tempesta bb gun?
hollow sable
i got 65 bps of that, its easy
and you only need 2 max
anyway the other i can think of is rudder event
timid slate
I'll cope with 3 but to get 3 I need a full 25bps to drop still
stray lance
Thankfully, at 15 rudders, I can probably chill on those in the future
timid slate
anyway the other i can think of is rudder event
I actually remember getting a full rudder on that event's rerun, but I was big lucky, not so much here it seems 
hollow sable
we're all cooked
timid slate
How's safe indep momo doing?
rugged heart
i mean im at 17 prints and i havent even gotten to my academy oil yet
stray lance
momo at 125?
timid slate
Do report back bc i'm actually curious
upper ibex
i mean im at 17 prints and i havent even gotten to my academy oil yet
with or without point rewards?
rugged heart
without
hollow sable
havent seen aquila nana have random half hp aquila so im comfier with this, hopefully indep momo is good
uncut bison
What the heck just happened, Inde got nuked
timid slate
havent seen aquila nana have random half hp aquila so im comfier with this, hope...
You're gonna need at least another mob fleet or you're gonna get gigablocked by morale so hope they do
hollow sable
it does look like the main issue is subs on 0 ammo but aquila clears node faster than indep
and momo should have better mobclear than nana but we'll see ig
i can only run 3 anyway due to dorm
it's fine i can do opsi when theyre rebuilding
anyway im cooked, 2 in 23
lol momo almost solos elite before indep gets to launch
indep is losing hp tho
valid oriole
zui got nuked right now for me i think i need to put asw after this run for her
hollow sable
i think this is still prolly safer tho
momo heals indep
indep is just kinda mid for this i might want sara instead she's much tankier
oil be damned just in caseLOL
we'll see ig
worn turret
you guys really hate moving gear huh 
valid oriole
i don't mind moving gear i have no idea what is the annoying thing in it
hollow sable
3* on 0 ammo <:NimiCursed:771507345469472811>
momo kills this in 28s and only 1 sub hits indep
i might just put sara bc indep being on 50-60% scares me
worn turret
what is morale have to do with asw?
hollow sable
i dont use any asw
actually
i could put hedge on momo, momo is invincible
good idea i forgot it exists
rugged heart
worn turret
nice
hollow sable
so yeah i think then indep momo is safe with hedgehog
my other two dont need any asw afaik
preload op
timid slate
you guys really hate moving gear huh <:ChampyXD:839635012601380895>
I hate it sm I'm actually testing shit just to do stuff that doesn't need it
valid oriole
I hate it sm I'm actually testing shit just to do stuff that doesn't need it
did u play epic 7 ?
timid slate
I can say with confidence that preload mode Impero + Harbin clears without asw
hollow sable
based
i have neither
but yeah my comps seem to work anyway
im just finetuning the details at this point
timid slate
did u play epic 7 ?
nope I was born this way (hating to swap gears)
hollow sable
also same i hate gearswapping
valid oriole
play epic 7 then it is a nice vaccine for it
hollow sable
but that's not an issue on this event anyway idk why it would be
indep doesnt have a wyvern sure but she clears fine regardless
worn turret
you will move that hog like me
timid slate
~~i have neither~~
If I had Aquila I would use her but
hollow sable
ye i only need it for indep on 0 ammo
and 'need' only bc im a scaredy cat
she doesnt even go below 50%
so ill just put it on momo and be done
ezpz
worn turret
i misinterpret this thread big time 
hollow sable
2 for 29
valid oriole
after 50 runs
timid slate
after 50 runs <:MutsukiHyperStare:588629678017871872>
With help?
valid oriole
things will even out
yeah u have to farm with helps
if not then why are u in this thread
timid slate
I am but I am getting 2 times 0
valid oriole
there is a 2 drop per stage wiithout help ?
timid slate
Hm actually no there isn't, I was just being dumb
1:1 brainrot already reaching the brain it's joever
valid oriole
🥹
grave canopy
I stopped counting 
I have 8 total so far since 2 pm
hollow sable
im accepting i am cooked
valid oriole
i m 10 in 65 runs
grave canopy
there is a 2 drop per stage wiithout help ?
i believe it can happen yeah
even without HELP
since there are elites in addition to boss that can give HVAR
timid slate
wait the elites can drop the gold bp? thought it was only purple
rugged heart
boss can drop 1-2 bp sirens only 1
hollow sable
0.015 elite 0.065 boss 50% for 2
timid slate
The accumulated rate is 50%
It either drops or it doesn't
stray lance
Thats not bad at all. 85k for 5 copies
hollow sable
ohshit
im saved
actually now idk if i did 29 or 35 runs
oops
should be 35 ig
so 5 in 35
valid oriole
check her pc now 
hollow sable
wdym
timid slate
I lost count I'll post my stats for tomorrow
rugged heart
yea with oil storage theres not really much problem getting 5
stray lance
yea with oil storage theres not really much problem getting 5
time is the problme for most
valid oriole
man does eld have a built in hedge or something ?
grave canopy
this is for quick reference at 14% rate
if u guys want to check
ignore the 8 and 11 target 
that was in case we still had bug for 
timid slate
Saved so I can rage at my shit luck when I'm done
valid oriole
so we need 450 sorties with helps ?
upper ibex
my luck needs to step up
grave canopy
tbf this is to FARM 5
if u only want 5 u will farm 4
pastel badger
full 50 hours of farming
grave canopy
4 is ~310 HELP sorties
pastel badger
how many hours is that?
valid oriole
i see yeah then we have plenty time to sleep and play other games
timid slate
Your guyses math wizardy skills have given me hope for my future
valid oriole
i did the calculations and we need 112h for 5 drops which is 5 days at most full days
stray lance
i see yeah then we have plenty time to sleep and play other games <:Blessex:7533...
Just play other games while farming. I am farming for my HVARs while I farm for my Pokedex while I am allegedly "working"
timid slate
I "only" need to farm 3 planes
valid oriole
Just play other games while farming. I am farming for my HVARs while I farm for ...
i can't run more than 1 instance the best that i can do is open a browser tab for grindblue farmtasy
stray lance
i can't run more than 1 instance the best that i can do is open a browser tab fo...
Thats what phones or handheld games are for
upper ibex
farm on phone
valid oriole
u have no idea lets leave it at that
pastel badger
so like 4.4 hours of farming per day
grave canopy
if u are on 6 minute sorties u only need 5 hours for 4 HVAR
stray lance
so like 4.4 hours of farming per day
depends. Only 7 days, and you probably don't want to rush on the last day, so figure 6 days
pastel badger
if u are on 6 minute sorties u only need 5 hours for 4 HVAR
per day?
grave canopy
yes
pastel badger
not that bad actually
grave canopy
6 minute sortie is a bit fast tho
u could be anywhere between 6-8 realistically
- time to swap gear etc
valid oriole
yeah someone with enough free time can do more than 5h in some days
it should be doable overall
pastel badger
i have 16h a day for farming on the weekends
stray lance
I'm the opposite. weekends are busy, have to farm during work
timid slate
I'm... not gonna get any studying done this week
valid oriole
but u can study during farming since this is done 99% of the time automatically
there is no manual other than some menuing from time to time
timid slate
I mean yes (I'm actually studying rn) but less concentration
timid slate
Time for a break, your boats need rest (only because it breaks the auto 
)
valid oriole
3 is fine i think no need to sweat it so much if u have enough time per day
valid oriole
are u at 0 canteen 
hollow sable
no
tight shale
can this work if i use ranger chang chun
alsace musashi amagi random bs vanguard since no crossfleets or halford
?
grave canopy
can this work if i use ranger chang chun
alsace musashi amagi random bs vanguard...
should work I think
maybe ranger better than bogue
rugged heart
not enough avi without halford
hollow sable
halford
upper ingot
How many fleet in the rotation do we need to avoid moral lock?
grave canopy
ting an also an option
rugged heart
this is with 5/6 rainbow plane and +13 catas
timid slate
Would you guys believe me if I told you that I've gotten more Hornet II copies than HVAR drops?
4 hornii, 3 bps
Someone end my suffering
grave canopy
it evens out in the end
u will get a run of good luck trust 
timid slate
oh wait you can buy albion excercise reports in core shop
Can it be equipped by the vanguard?
rugged heart
yes
timid slate
Oh that's huge, I might be able to run 2BB xfleet
sour shard
4 hornii, 3 bps
Someone end my suffering
Horny.
upper ingot
Where is the auto retire function?...
upper ingot
I can survive the grind but retire/enchant every run is a pain...
sour shard
this is why dock space is no. 1 prio
timid slate
After some testing I've found that 1:1 Uni Ply is faster by a good amount than Uni Shima
Uni Shima does way better on mobs but is brought down by boss
Ply needs anti sub (purple depth is enough) but so does Shima to be consistent
tight shale
this is why dock space is no. 1 prio
me with 150 free dockspace and i still am bothered to retire commons
by free i mean 150 unoccupied dockspace
sour shard
After some testing I've found that 1:1 Uni Ply is faster by a good amount than U...
isnt this kinda obv considering you're double stacking pre loads
tight shale
Ply needs anti sub (purple depth is enough) but so does Shima to be consistent
maybe uni + eld kai works too?
for me it did all sp stage
upper ibex
eldridge is no damage
timid slate
isnt this kinda obv considering you're double stacking pre loads
I was mostly betting on the mob time being down low enough to still be faster even with a slow boss
tight shale
but you got the crossfleets for damage too no?
sour shard
stacking preloads doesnt speed up mobs that much
upper ibex
you do but boss will be painful still
and mobs also arent cleared that fast from xfleet alone
timid slate
maybe uni + eld kai works too?
Maaaaybe with a single 113 to hopefully spam barrage but even then I'm also in the camp of eldkai being slow because no damage
timid slate
stacking preloads doesnt speed up mobs that much
Uni Shima has been the fastest for me on mob, but yeah not that much to compensate for the boss
timid slate
z52 has been super slow for me with 113
She would probably be better twin 100 kai for this
sour shard
wait
timid slate
Mog gun is our best for heavy armor yeah?
timid slate
113 doesn't clear fast and I assume 76 would be worse
Some shitter mobs get left alive for too long in my experience
(paired with Uni)
timid slate
What are you thinking as a better pairing for z52? I'm not too bothered with oil, doing 1:1 for easier morale management
sour shard
fairly sure fdg is the best pairing because of the proximity barrage but
thats double UR for oil
valid oriole
im my experience volga eld and uni ty are the best comboes
timid slate
Doing BB means you're locked to only 1 BB in the xfleet though if you're pog enough to meet the avi requirements without 2 cvs
timid slate
im my experience volga eld and uni ty are the best comboes
Eldridge, really? what gun?
valid oriole
mogador
timid slate
My most consistent (fast on both mobs and boss) has been Percy Mog
I was kinda surprised at that one
upper ibex
i like mog and bayard
flat shoal
so far I got a print every half an hour
hollow sable
im 10/63
flat shoal
3 hvars target? how many hours have you grind?
sour shard
im 2/45
hollow sable
luck giveth and luck taketh
flat shoal
how 45?
hollow sable
i pray you will improve
hollow sable
i was at 2/29 
so i understand
flat shoal
hvar's are in 25 right?
sour shard
no i mean i got 2 in 45 runs
hollow sable
cycling 3 fleets is also not actually that bad
flat shoal
Imma help next round
hollow sable
i took a break for 1 hour and get to have multiple more runs
is only bad if you really lack time to play through the day
flat shoal
cycling 3 fleets is also not actually that bad
yea it kinda depends on what ship you're using and how fast you clear
sour shard
i just run the game in the backround during lectures where prof allows laptop open and study
hollow sable
lol wtf idk what happened here
sour shard
limited by oil & morale more than time
flat shoal
ah yea I should've installed mumu
valid oriole
no u need to clear the fight faster
hollow sable
3* carrier node on 0 ammo
sour shard
i was lucky enough to get yorkii during free pulls so maybe i finally start doing cube researches
hollow sable
no u need to clear the fight faster
no way to do that, and having asw wouldnt slow down anyway
flat shoal
I just put la9 and spearfish and all my best gears on uni ddg
hollow sable
im gonna put depth charge on poi ig
its weird cos i thought only momo needed asw with indep
somehow aquila nana is perfectly fine so far
flat shoal
It took me 5s for the elites, and some more for the regular fleet, and 23 seconds for boss
hollow sable
okay 🧓
flat shoal
somehow aquila nana is perfectly fine so far
yea it's kinda overkill haha
hollow sable
not really
flat shoal
but understandable given the time, ranger doesn't even have preload
hollow sable
indep nana had issues i wasnt comfy with
you forget i have only amagi as useful crossfleet lol
flat shoal
unfortunate 
valid oriole
no way to do that, and having asw wouldnt slow down anyway
using a better vanguard 
valid oriole
i levelled an shan ryuu zui for this too
valid oriole
what cm ?
hollow sable
i couldnt get missile anyway cos no core data til now
so i didnt use cc
i still havent gotten enough shells but i will this month
flat shoal
no ddgs
sour shard
~~if your main fleet is dying thats probably a dps issue ~~
hollow sable
yes
a lack of asw
remember i havent bothered to run asw cos i wasnt sure it was important
sour shard
i have basically 0 asw but am perfectly comfortable
hollow sable
turns out it might be for very bad rng runs
you also probably have better gear and crossfleets
why do ppl always forget crossfleets
flat shoal
yea crossfleet literally makes your fight ends in the crossfleet time
flat shoal
not to mention people just forgot rainbow weapon and +13 equips and tech
hollow sable
i should totally +13 the wyvern am i right
i could actually +13 the bfg ig cos i need it for CM
flat shoal
nah nah, bfg fine though no wyvern
hollow sable
flat shoal
nobody +13s wyverns
foxwall be like
sour shard
foxwall be like
shh
flat shoal
dw aurora, you'll be fine
flat shoal
you got 10 prints already in a day
sour shard
i mean if you're a new player 1:1'ing for hvars is brainrot
and you should level ships
flat shoal
we have 7 days so 70 prints, at least 3 hvars already in your hand
hollow sable
this should do better ig
hollow sable
and you should level ships
no thanks
sour shard
do you not have hedgehog
hollow sable
hedgehog is on momo and im not gonna gearswap unless it proves necessary
i should point out i havent failed a single run
im only concerned for EXCEEDINGLY bad auto roll
so depth should suffice
hollow sable
you got 10 prints already in a day
12*
12/69
and
i have a tonmore oil to go through today
timid slate
Only 5 prints for today
Goodnight hvarheads may rng bless you all (because it sure as fuck hasn't for me)
hollow sable
goodnight
may you have better luck on the morrow 
anyway elites take me 2 launches even with +13 bfg rip
yuudachi truly garbage
momo can nearly solo the elite before indep launches smh
the only reason i keep yuudachi around is because she's cute
let's be real
flat shoal
agreed
hollow sable
the moment i say that she mvps over uni wtf
oh shit the depth charger is very good for subs
hedge is overkill then, so good for a CL
where do i get another
i might as well slap one on nana too just to be safe
rugged heart
you should have infinite prints from weekly raid
hollow sable
or ill give yuudachi's to nana and give uni an asw plane
i havent bothered going past lvl35 raid tbh
since subs take bulins
and i have had many more important things first
my enty is still not mlb cos sandy went 
and before enty i got jumpscared by aquila
flat shoal
i havent bothered going past lvl35 raid tbh
you should've tried staying at 65 though
hollow sable
fine fine
ill idk level up and mlb whydah for next week
call me when the gold bulin shortage ends
flat shoal
I forget what I use but I definitely didn't use mlb for the level 65 one
hollow sable
i need to level tempestas for CM actually guess enty wont be mlb for a while
valid oriole
i never had issues with bulins
flat shoal
i need to level tempestas for CM actually <:PortDoll:585585241142591535> guess e...
nah tempesta for CM is kinda negligible
hollow sable
nah tempesta for CM is kinda negligible
breaks 1 shield cycle faster
and amity is just good in general for debuffing so she wouldnt be a waste to mlb
i'll be using like dolphin whydah amity for it
so only need 4 bulin
valid oriole
i forgot how my progression went but generally ships take a long time to level and for the ur bulins i just pity for dupes
hollow sable
she's cute and i stopped chasing faction tech for now so purples arent an issue for once
upper ibex
127 run 17 prints today, time to bedge
hollow sable
so how many prints do you get from the lvl65 raid anyway
probably would come in too late for the event
valid oriole
it has the highest chance to give the mark VIII
hollow sable
no, depth charge 
valid oriole
so if u want to speedrun the bidders u want to focus 65
hollow sable
that wasnt the topic tho 
valid oriole
the topic is u are hurting ur progression by not doing 65 and higher for the bidders
valid oriole
well TBH in my experience u don't need that many
i used 3 and it was very fine
hollow sable
do you want to get bonked by 
valid oriole
flat shoal
:abdoubonk:
valid oriole
my whole megathread got bonked by nano
valid oriole
sushi ender pilica neko lars coffee and many more
hollow sable
what megathread
valid oriole
a thread where u could see al general gph and off topic in the same minute
it continued for about 6 months until i made a mistake and got flagged by the mods
it is the encyclopedia of al
valid oriole
said the R word
hollow sable
OOF
valid oriole
101 > 13
sour shard
i dont like 99% of DD & SS designs for... obv reasons
pastel badger
lets not get off topic guys
sour shard
gg.
flat shoal
uh oh mods came
flat shoal
lets not get off topic guys
how's hvars?
pastel badger
bad
4 prints
kept getting A ranks
flat shoal
well that's not good
pastel badger
leveled zuihou up to 115
swapped z23 with audicieuex
flat shoal
or at least sounds so, idk how much A rank influence drop rate
hollow sable
A ranks
pastel badger
hopefully itll works
hollow sable
oof z23
hollow sable
or at least sounds so, idk how much A rank influence drop rate
all i know is it changes boss from guaranteed ship drop to like 50-60%
flat shoal
oh no, did starters not work? or is it just z23
hollow sable
so, pretty bad
rugged heart
13 prints in 98 runs
hollow sable
idk but
flat shoal
jabbers sounds kinda good ngl
hollow sable
starters are kinda bad? imo
like
but also low cost shit with top tier gear and xfleet works tho
flat shoal
jabbers has converging torp every like 5 shots (3s)
hollow sable
if u dont have that then starters sound bad to me
pastel badger
is 125 healers + 125 ddgs with good enuff gear gaurenteed S ranks
flat shoal
is 125 healers + 125 ddgs with good enuff gear gaurenteed S ranks
so far taiyuan uni works, aquila leander also works
they kill boss in 2 strikes
pastel badger
tf?
hollow sable
damn
rugged heart
lb0 ranger + ddg is enough with good enough gear
flat shoal
or maybe I'm seeing wrong, but there's no way it gonna take me more than 2 strike on boss
sour shard
i just rotate aqulla chang + tai uni + full leveling fleet
helps for first 2, 3rd just to recover morale plus actually progress my account in a way other than a fighter plane
valid oriole
aurora can i ask u how did u miss musasi rerun ?
hollow sable
that makes more sense
flat shoal
yea 2 strike (on boss), so under 1 minute
hollow sable
i feel like ive explained it a million times tbh
sour shard
musashi is probably the most early game carrying ship in the game other than uni
so its
unfortunate
hollow sable
the timing just sucked ass as a new player
flat shoal
what gear fybre?
aquila is flap helldiver spearfish, all +10
hollow sable
i'd barely reached ch12 before musashi rerun, collab immediately after which i cared a lot about, and no way to get enough coins or oil in those 7 days
flat shoal
leander with bis and rudder fumo
hollow sable
in fact
if i hadnt dropped wakatsuki from sp
i wouldve had to skip 460 or wakatsuki in shop it was that bad
valid oriole
when musasi and the collab run i was in low effort mode because of some stuff irl and i cared about musasi more than the collab
i missed like 6 aux
flat shoal
this is what I use:
- Uni +13 la-9 +10 spearfish +13 catas (to meet reqs) ddg moggun all +10
- Aquila flap helldiver spearfish all +10 leander +13 plygun +13 quads fumo
valid oriole
while i got everything in the musasi rerun
hollow sable
mega rainbow gear
flat shoal
idk how consistently tho
might be more consistent ngl, says who S rank drops more gear
hollow sable
smh no tenrai tho
rugged heart
i doubt anyone has ever done data on a rank gear drops
flat shoal
2 tenrais on amagi, without them my unis can't fulfill AVI req
hollow sable
valid oriole
u can use the skyraider too
pastel badger
im starting to doubt if my healer + ddgs actually get me S ranks
hollow sable
you can always just use a proper bossfleet if oil isnt a concern
valid oriole
im starting to doubt if my healer + ddgs actually get me S ranks
use 2 mountains
flat shoal
well unless the healer is perseus
hollow sable
surely y'alls have more oil than me
flat shoal
perseus definitely big doubt on S rank
pastel badger
ima try percy + ddg
flat shoal
but the rest I don't see why not S rank
hollow sable
dont you mean 2 flames if their issue is damage
pastel badger
but the rest I don't see why not S rank
running 115 zh + laff2 rn
flat shoal
unless you use not level 120 healers
valid oriole
in my experience if u sink the subs u will end 100% on hp in the backline
flat shoal
unless you use not level 120 healers
use up your exp books, don't bother keeping them
hollow sable
zuihou not being 120 is a dmg loss but not super significant
hollow sable
in my experience if u sink the subs u will end 100% on hp in the backline
this (should be) is true
flat shoal
I even use all my exp books for the other 2 unicorns
valid oriole
yeah and the subs are very squishy
hollow sable
more expensive but my aquila fleets have always been the smoothest so far
regardless of which vg i pair to her
if i could raise 3 aquilas i probably would
flat shoal
2 cvs xf;leet
you should be able to get avi req with +13 catas, amagi 3 UR planes, and uni 2 ur planes
valid oriole
there are also the albion aux
pastel badger
youre funny
valid oriole
and the guam event aux too
flat shoal
but I know your catas prolly not +13, maybe try halford or albion aux or smth
musashi and alsace carries a little bit
valid oriole
i put the highest aux on jav for the 30% increase
rugged heart
bulins also have 23 avi
flat shoal
wait fr lmao
valid oriole
but it will take a xfleet slot
flat shoal
yea just replace shima with a halford or shirakami fubuki
valid oriole
so u mean put a bulin instead of jav ?
flat shoal
or jav with avi aux
pastel badger
whats the lowest time i can go to still get S in boss?
rugged heart
1:00
tight shale
lol, i will burn my oil fast since i am forced to use uni rang0lb and ddgs
tight shale
even by using bulins i can't meet requirements if i don't use rang0lb
valid oriole
for me something like this
flat shoal
10k oil spent, 13 prints already
hollow sable
16/81 good rng
valid oriole
but i was leveling zui from 117 to 119 now
tight shale
you know nothing of the oilburn
yep, i do 171-178
rugged heart
so the 94 oil 0lb ranger + ddg isnt flawless
hollow sable
oh we are fairly close
rugged heart
if it hits 2 3* bb node it dies
hollow sable
i use full boss cos im weak
valid oriole
107 > 15 here 
flat shoal
idk how much I spent, all I know I spent 10k oil total, probably 1k for the clearing part
pastel badger
you should be able to get avi req with +13 catas, amagi 3 UR planes, and uni 2 u...
Yo thanks for the tip btw, works
flat shoal
Yo thanks for the tip btw, works
nice
hollow sable
idk how much oil it is
i just track runcount
my oil varies based on fleetcomp and i swap it basically every 3*2 run
to balance morale
hollow sable
2 per battle. doubled with helps
valid oriole
yeah should be 60 per 3 helped runs
valid oriole
oh 6 fights
pastel badger
Also running la9 wyvern works really well
valid oriole
no wonder someone can't sustain 3 fights
i barely can do 2
hollow sable
ya even in dorm from 150, doing 2 sets of 3 gets them to 30-40 morale
without boss
pastel badger
I do 2 battles
Then swap
valid oriole
with boss it goes to 6 here
flat shoal
Also running la9 wyvern works really well
better than spearfish?
pastel badger
I like some interception
But I’m pretty sure spearfish might be a bit better
hollow sable
i dont believe planes are a real threat in d3 at least
tight shale
i do like 1hour 1st fleet, 2nd hour 2nd fleet and then 1st
tight shale
btw i was thinking should i use perseus or independence as uni sub?
hollow sable
oh
rugged heart
ddg with +13 rainbow aa aint enough
tight shale
indep should pack a bit more punches
hollow sable
indep works
pastel badger
indep is better if your ship survives
tight shale
they should
tight shale
with 3* cv on 0 ammo
and i assume at least mus and alsa cross?
tight shale
then yeah, i should do it easily since i abuse crossfleet
hollow sable
i think rumey xfleet is actually not bad for single target light/med
it comes out fairly quick also
flat shoal
and i assume at least mus and alsa cross?
well for this to happen you need a bunch of rainbow planes
hollow sable
to do boss probably yes
but indep is my least geared since i like the other two more
and nana survives with depth charge and doesnt even proc her heal so with good crossfleet and rainbows on indep i bet it can do boss
flat shoal
sadly jabbers not that good
her spear just keeps targetting the boss's friends, making uni's 3rd strike on boss needed
valid oriole
yeah the boss adds kinda stall the fight
flat shoal
at this point I might be limited by oil more than time
valid oriole
but it is wht it is
flat shoal
apparently I miscalculated since I add the hvars I got from the event's milestone
hollow sable
how much oils
flat shoal
I started with 140k in mail and about 10k
rugged heart
flat shoal
for 4 hvars event I would need 120k right
flat shoal
oh I would need around 110k
flat shoal
well that's kinda nice
rugged heart
flat shoal
they are also kinda good to us since they made the event not during december/may
hollow sable
i should be able to get about 120-130k value
and my mail is only 60k including newbie rewards
sour shard
for 4 hvars event I would need 120k right
4 or 3+1?
hollow sable
4
flat shoal
does 4+1 means 5 on the chart?
hollow sable
chart is drop only
hollow sable
oh i can let me show you my math
valid oriole
it is possible to get 76k oil without storage but u should have not used the previous event shop for it
sour shard
i mean from non mail sources
i started event with ~24k oil & 100k in mail
so probably will get 150k oil of value
hollow sable
enter event with 20k (successfully done)
canteen 2k+ (also successfully done more or less)
60k mails
4k weekly pack * 2
2.5k weeklys * 2
5k event shop
1k 3 starring rewards
4k/day from typical active playing
total = 129000 est
flat shoal
I'm definitely not grabbing more than 4 + 1 tbh, I don't see why I would need that many
to use 6, you have to assume that they can all sync, which is very little chance to happen
valid oriole
5 is the ideal spot the rest is just for flexing
hollow sable
i entered event with 20k without wasting any oil either
my cap 12kish, i let myself reach cap about 12-15hr before maint, then comms bring me to 13k+. i claim rumey event oil bringing me to 18k+ then i claim monthly login + night comms brings me to 20k
sour shard
2 is necessary for kear & yorkii gear reqs, 3-4 is nice, 5 is optimal, 6 is unecessary
hollow sable
enter event with 20k (successfully done)
canteen 2k+ (also successfully done mor...
also if u get lucky on comms you can get over 4k base/day
rugged heart
by the time u finish upgrading 5 it will be in lab or something
hollow sable
like i got gemcomm for 480-720 already plus 2 handovers 160-260 each
etc
all luck based but can go well over 4k if lucky
flat shoal
yea the gold plates
hollow sable
4k is the baseline i use to calc tho
valid oriole
like i got gemcomm for 480-720 already plus 2 handovers 160-260 each
check her pc smh
hollow sable
since that is effectively guaranteed
2304 canteen + 520 dailies + 800 from daily resouce(ish) + 500 night comm
+-200 for the latter two, but over time it averages
then basically anything urgentcomm wise is bonus
sour shard
this event is bait for a another event in a month with a better light figher
flat shoal
nah they would have to release yet another ur cv, I don't think that
sour shard
ig
flat shoal
they really need a cl gacha ngl
valid oriole
releasing an ur fighter will be limited to 1 as always
hollow sable
also that
flat shoal
uni 115 and javelin 120 works for me, sample size till 0 morale
sour shard
mail oil bait for a torp or smth idk
valid oriole
they really need a cl gacha ngl
there are many hulls TBH
i was coping for BBV for the mamagi event
flat shoal
alaska and iowa moment
valid oriole
dropped gear won't happen ever again after hvar trust me boys 
even if it happens it won't be as demanding as this one
flat shoal
jabbers kinda weird though since her spear barrage can miss
hollow sable
it is what it is, you always gamble on the future vs now with gacha resources
rugged heart
gold repair kit aux coming next event
hollow sable
personally im just getting hvars cos newcastle
flat shoal
oh yea aurora how long did it take you to gain mail oil like 80k
valid oriole
it is what it is, you always gamble on the future vs now with gacha resources
yeah with that mentality someone would never achieve anything
i know someone in another game pretty much hoarding all the resources for years just because they can release something better in the future idea
flat shoal
yeah with that mentality someone would never achieve anything
i know someone in...
ahahha, keeping oil for the fated day
hollow sable
yeah you cant fall into that kinda trap
flat shoal
my fated day for mail oil is today
hollow sable
its worth it to go for smth that will really benefit you now even if you might temporarily (in this case) miss out on 1-2 extra copies of a hypothetical new op drop farm gear if it comes immediately after
also dont forget
new drop gear will first come in a 2 week event
that automatically makes it easier than current hvar
valid oriole
yeah we can hoard so much oil before hand
hollow sable
oh yea aurora how long did it take you to gain mail oil like 80k
its uhh somewhere 50-55k range. but i also have 6k unclaimed from newbie missions im counting in that for the 60k