#Serious, Arizona Meta Fleet

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onyx wolf
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Yeah

patent moss
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We are serious

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Zoomies was meta

onyx wolf
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Don't have Plymouth

oblique sluice
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ariM is speed meta

patent moss
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Eldridge or Laffey 2

onyx wolf
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Eldrige.... still in progress in Exercise

patent moss
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Cause agir literally gets oneshotted

onyx wolf
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I'm not that deep in terms of exercise

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hmmm so one for now? Ok

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imma wait for Taihou META it is

old crow
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wellllll

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goose

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couldnt he try neptune

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i was gonna say yat + an shan but she's slow as molasses herself

patent moss
jagged geode
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you can go 125 helena with eagle manjuu

potent trout
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Laffii helena smkz

onyx wolf
potent trout
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Oh that's a normie haha

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Neptune then

onyx wolf
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smkz means¿

potent trout
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Shimakaze

onyx wolf
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oh wait in outer lane not middle?

potent trout
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Yes helena most important ship but it may not matter

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Arim doesn't do damage much

onyx wolf
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yeah it's her fog

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Learned it in hard way

potent trout
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And Shima is like 2nd fastest ur. Unless you have a mog hidden

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If you didn't have 2 boilers for pvp you will after arim BuckyPrideZoom

onyx wolf
potent trout
potent trout
onyx wolf
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oh that

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I have them

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also... not TorpMutsukiHyperStare

potent trout
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That's just pvp Jim not a suggestion

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I can't even test arim if I wanted to

onyx wolf
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why? your in other META?

old crow
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capped the 70k

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im guessing

potent trout
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I finished all. You can't fight

onyx wolf
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ic

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Though still tnx for some info

potent trout
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Speed does two things. Arguably the most important is it spaces the fog out so there's never more than 1 fog in a spot. And then if you do get caught in a 1 stack of fog it will get you out of it.

onyx wolf
potent trout
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2 boilers 1 beaver was enough for me. I think I put beaver on nagato?

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Did I really try to 4 cycle ijn with Helena? NagaThonk

onyx wolf
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also about the guns?

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Triple AP bb seems work earlier... it just that Vanguard got melted

potent trout
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Oh vanguard not vangood

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Should be alright but you might need autoloader for a proper 4 cycle

onyx wolf
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hmmmm auto loader for all?

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hmmm what should I replace then, The shell or the T pose fire control

potent trout
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I think you want to block everyone behind alsace. So only alsace has hsfcr. Everyone has autoloader or like Flandre gun

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Well you need alsace to fire at like 74-75s for a proper cycle

onyx wolf
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hmmm so I will switch the the Item of Mush with Alsace, fair

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thou I only Leveled Champy gun

potent trout
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Idk does daisen gun also work for 4 cycle meta?

old crow
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not without loader

potent trout
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Triple 410 musashi probably needs autoloader to get off 4 cycles

old crow
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daisen is not much faster than the usual 20s

onyx wolf
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so... flandre gun for Nj or Champy?

potent trout
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4 cycle is definitely a high tech solution if you don't want excessive autoloaders

old crow
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or well, there is also the option of 2x 457 and 1 champy with loader

potent trout
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Can just try? You want alsace to fire at 75s and everyone else right after. Not 4s after. So like alsace 75s, NJ 76s, musashi 77s

old crow
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this does work after all

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tho vanny is firing first here

potent trout
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Does that even fall into helena 4th cycle? Maybe it's a 0 tech solution heh

onyx wolf
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oh wow, my Vanny is still level 98..MLB but low leveled

potent trout
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Oh I guess vanny is fast enough to block 457

onyx wolf
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so I can't one shot it

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only 2 shot

potent trout
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you're giving up a lot of damage using BB without plymouth

onyx wolf
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yeah

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Also idk if I make a dumb mistake but..... I gave SG radar to Helena instead of Washing machine

onyx wolf
potent trout
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that doesn't sound good. you won't sync with helena or get 4 cycles

onyx wolf
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I'm syncing Helena with Alsace BiskoSweat

potent trout
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yes and musashi might not sync at all

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one of the reasons for 4 cycle is to smooth out helena rng

onyx wolf
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.... I gave her Auto loader

potent trout
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4 cycle has like a 90% chance of 2 helena scans

onyx wolf
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actually it did 2 in a row and the rest is just nothing

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Alsace fired first then musashi next then Nj third, every cycle

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consistent

potent trout
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it's not just order. everything needs to be tight and in alsace's window, helena's window, armor break window. that's why you need blocking

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who has the table?

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btw if it wasn't clear. 75s means 5 seconds before the end. not 5 seconds after the battle starts

onyx wolf
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hmmm I gave it to alsace cause she just do damage

potent trout
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what you have doesn't sound right at all. you want them to fire alsace, musashi, nj in that order within 2 seconds for 4 cycles

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you might have achieved it on cycle 1 but musashi isn't even going to get a 4th off

onyx wolf
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hmmmm ic

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so... should I double Champy gun Alsace and NJ? Cause it will be off I use 457 to alsace

potent trout
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yes. I think alsace is way too slow for any 457 comp to work

onyx wolf
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Hmmm

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so Ap shell and Heavy shell for both Alsace and NJ

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ehile Musashi have table and Auto loader?

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also... do Shima need Boiler?

potent trout
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460 is never a good choice in 4 cycles

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it's impossible. doesn't matter how much reload and cooldown you give her

onyx wolf
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oh... I don't have that

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is that yamato

potent trout
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yes

onyx wolf
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I thought the other one

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the izumo gun

potent trout
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you said you did WarShrug

Yamato gun with Musash

onyx wolf
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I didn't get the yamato gun... kinda got burned out

potent trout
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oh izumo is great

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no hsfcr. autoloader only

onyx wolf
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or one ap shell

potent trout
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i don't know. it depends on your tech and oath

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an oathed max tech musashi would only need a +4 autoloader or something like that

onyx wolf
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yeah musashi is not oathed

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NJ is

potent trout
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if it's no oath 0 tech WarShrug probably impossible

onyx wolf
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give me the tech calculator maybe we can salvage this one

potent trout
onyx wolf
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what tech should I focus? RLD?

potent trout
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yes. reload is what leads to 33% performance gains. nothing else can do that

onyx wolf
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yup, it is not salvageable....0 tech

potent trout
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so suchi did a meme 3 cycle

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but the answer maybe comes back to you really need plymouth. she buff musashi without rng

onyx wolf
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cause if not gonna move to pr 5 to hunt Plymouth bp

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only 2 bp for 2nd Tenrai

onyx wolf
potent trout
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WarShrug two is two. it's not like it's super easy to one shot any of them

onyx wolf
old crow
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2 is normal