fleet help

[drowsy wigeon]

let's do it here shall we

no this is ideal

though you could have left out the rares

[drowsy wigeon]

right so what do you need help with again?

[rancid cloak]

well my main question was what priority ship to go for next

now that the whole dock is there i might as well just ask what's the best comps for endgame content like opsi and campaign

[drowsy wigeon]

FDG, then Anchorage, then AvP

also you're really not in a psition to be tackling endgame content with what you have currently

i.e. W14, W15, Hard Arbiter

[rancid cloak]

i see

right now i've very comfortably completed chapter 12

[drowsy wigeon]

yeah I presume you dropped the game in about 2019 and came back only recently?

[rancid cloak]

that sums about most of it

its been kind of like an on and mostly off kind of thing

[drowsy wigeon]

yeah I figured

yeah so unfortunately you missed a lot of stuff while you were in active which a lot of the current late game content was basically balanced around

[rancid cloak]

yeah it keeps getting worse every time i check back 💀

[drowsy wigeon]

first thinsg first would be to give this a read to get up to speed on research

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

as well as getting started in OpSi so you can at least catch up a bit on gear

[rancid cloak]

right now i've cleared out the "explorable" part of every sector on the map

doing strongholds is very painful tho because i have entire one fleet im comfortable with using

[drowsy wigeon]

yeah you'd wanna get that fixed

obviously level Musashi

[rancid cloak]

yeah i focused leveling musashi instantly

[rancid cloak]

it sucked a lot when i had to wait for the rest command to come up several times during that one bossfight

[drowsy wigeon]

but some others that could at least bulk out the numbers would be, Shangri-La, Ark Royal, Independence, Helena, Sirius, Monarch, Nelson

[drowsy wigeon]

you know you can leave, heal in port, and come back with no progress lost right?

for strongholds

[rancid cloak]

i had no idea 💀

[drowsy wigeon]

well yeah you can

[rancid cloak]

i see

[drowsy wigeon]

the only things you can't do that to are Hidden Modes, Abbysals, and Hard Arbiter

[rancid cloak]

ohhh

i saw it say progress wouldnt save once and thought that would be for everything

[drowsy wigeon]

yeah definitely not

[rancid cloak]

oh yeah would knowing my current team comps be useful?

level difference is definitely a part of it but my mob fleet works so well compared to my actual boss fleet

[drowsy wigeon]

uh sure

[rancid cloak]

up until recently my boss fleet was left to right zuikaku/amagi/taihou and prinz eugen/ayanami/takao

[drowsy wigeon]

yeah that's not really that good

[rancid cloak]

i switched eugen for prinz heinrich, ayanami for shimakaze

my main fleet consists of unicorn/warspite/enterprise, portland/san diego/belfast

that comp has stuck with me for years

[drowsy wigeon]

yeah kinda no surpise your mob fleet is doing better

ah well

you're in W12 now

you got the perfect place to level up ships

[rancid cloak]

which stage?

[drowsy wigeon]

12-1 or 12-4

[rancid cloak]

gotchu

[rancid cloak]

yeah i kind of got fed up with my main fleet taking up all of the levels so ive just switched taihou with ryuuhou and called that my temp mob fleet 💀

[rancid cloak]

well thanks for the help!

[drowsy wigeon]

no problem

[rancid cloak]

it really was confusing though

i thought i had built that crimson axis fleet pretty well so i got annoyed when it did so bad

[drowsy wigeon]

it's not the worst

but indiviudally the ships aren't that great and there's not much benefit from running them all together

[rancid cloak]

k 👍

[rancid cloak]

hey coming back to this point

why hadnt you listed more ships that on the ectl are highly tiered?

[drowsy wigeon]

such as who?

[rancid cloak]

like you suggested sirius (t2), but i also have montpelier, jeanne d arc, dido who're all higher tiers than her in the cl category

[drowsy wigeon]

okay so context matters

ECTL tiers around their performance in campaign

and Sirius is recced for her perfromance in an Operation Siren CV boss fleet later down the line

[rancid cloak]

ahh i see

[drowsy wigeon]

Montpelier is just a whatever damage CL who isn't particularly noteworthy

and Jeanne while good is a bit niche

a niche which you don't really need right now

[rancid cloak]

i had the ectl pegged as the "generally how much you would want this ship" tierlist

mb

[drowsy wigeon]

not necessarily

for one you need to take investment into account early game

and for some ships if you can equip them well

as well as what roles they fulfill

which is one of my pet peeves with ECTL since vanguards are catgorized based on hulltype and not role

[rancid cloak]

thanks for the info

[drowsy wigeon]

no problem

[rancid cloak]

also im like 99% sure i could 100% all of the hardmode stages in the war archives, are there any ships worth grinding for there?

im currently capped 60/60 on the thing and am just slowly grinding out chapayev

[drowsy wigeon]

remind me you're in chapter 12 of the main campaign right?

[rancid cloak]

ive completely cleared it out

[drowsy wigeon]

right best one to start would be Divergent Chessboard

to get Iron Blood ships for Iron Blood tech points to start work on FDG

after that it's really just collection and completion to be honest

[rancid cloak]

really?

i thought i saw some pretty high tiered ships there

[drowsy wigeon]

some of them are

[rancid cloak]

are none of them important for things other than campaign? or are they just simply not worth it

[drowsy wigeon]

none of them really do roles you don't alreay have filled

or are just minor upgrades at best and not worth going out of your way to get for an upgrade

[rancid cloak]

oh yeah one final thing

when you were talking about "rounding out my roster"

were you mentioning ships that look severely underleveled, or also including the ones half built?

[drowsy wigeon]

pretty much anything that could be of some use but just wasn't maxed