Help with opsi fleets.

[woeful wren]

What I have now (yes i know its a mess pls help) gimme a sec while i send all my ships i current have

These are all my level 120 and level 100 ships but it's likely that I may have other good ships just at a lower level. So please ask if you I have x ship or y ship.

[royal dirge]

helena, aurora, kazagumo, sirius

[woeful wren]

I'm still levelling up my URs but- here's what I have so far.

[royal dirge]

typical opsi best fleet is just those 4 and all the URs

Warning: You should not spread your bulins, especially UR ones

[calm pumice]

Honestly Soyuz Alsace Musashi first then you can work on the Sakura CVs

[woeful wren]

I think I have those 4. Helena is 120, Aurora is level 1, Kazagumo I can't find so I'm think I may not have and Sirius is level 1.

[royal dirge]

I honeslty don't see much improvement to be made other than put highest level ships and ignore the non-6 star UR for now

I can make you some fleet if you wait a little bit

[woeful wren]

Yes I know, however I just got a lot of dupes. Then I started doing Laffey but then people were saying to do Shinano so I gave one or two UR bulins and then people were saying Alsace so I dumped all bulins into her and then people were saying Amagi so..

[royal dirge]

when you see contradicting stuff, you should search your past message and ask them to clarify

[woeful wren]

I think I have a few of those. Let me double check for you really quick.

Hm... well.. these seem to be all my Sakura CVs

[woeful wren]

That's good advice too.

[royal dirge]

the sakura CVs goose referring to is Shinano Amagi Hakuryuu

other's don't really have that much single target damage, which matters the most in opsi

[knotty fractal]

the lack of research ships is very sus in this dock

like where is your agir, anchorage, ply

[royal dirge]

yeah what research are you doing

[woeful wren]

Sure. That'd be great, thanks.

Here are some other stuff I've got. I do have a bunch more stuff but.. that would require more screenshots and I don't think it's worth also.

[woeful wren]

Ah. I see. I don't have Hakuryuu nor have I even started the dev for it yet. I'm working on Agir currently.

[woeful wren]

I have anchorage actually.

[knotty fractal]

would you like a fleet setup that you can use now or something to work towards or both

[woeful wren]

Work towards. Definitely. Most of my ships are at level 1 anyways. I'm working on it, it takes time to level to a good level. Plus I just have so much to level already lmao. I can "get by" with what I have now for OpSi but..

And since someone asked for dev stuff. It's not very good because it confused me for the longest time and I don't like things I can't understand so I put it off lmao.

Also I took like an 6-8 month break for personal irl reasons. Which is why you see event ships from a year ago but no event ships from the last couple of months.

[royal dirge]

I trust Celerio in fleetbuilding

[knotty fractal]

mob: unicorn, guam, 4 others
BB: soyuz, alsace, other BB (not warspite), agir, helena, plymouth
CV: shinano, amagiCV, ark royal, anchorage, sirius, kazagumo
4th fleet can be crossfleet (UR spam) or leave empty

UR focus on musashi > amagiCV > guam, get the 3 UR BB fleet going and it can take care of 99% of the hard content in opsi

[royal dirge]

you should be focusing on PR4, read this guide about research, and other good tips https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[woeful wren]

Yes yes. That's what I'm doing now.

Going for Agir then I suppose... Hakuryuu after?

[knotty fractal]

for mob you can do BB, unicorn, enterprise, guam, shimakaze, someone

[royal dirge]

sure, I think agir first is better since agir is only up to d30, haku full power is at fs5 and she does not do her full potential without shinano and amagi

[knotty fractal]

build agir > plymouth > hakuryuu, stay on pr4 until at least agir d25, then consider switching to pr5 for plymouth

your agir is basically d25 which is good, pr5 at this stage would be recommended due to coining available for DR4 likely in january/feb

however if you’re close to finishing a tenrai (UR divebomber in pr4) then you can consider staying at pr4 for a little longer too

[royal dirge]

depends on their tenrai tbh, there's quite a lot of progress you can obtain in 2 months, and coining takes time too

[knotty fractal]

by close i mean like 40/50 prints

[woeful wren]

Thank you. So something a bit like this? lol when you say "others" it confuses me cause I don't know what others to put and my brain shuts dow-

[woeful wren]

Ah okay. Thanks.

[woeful wren]

Great. Thank you.

[knotty fractal]

for now i think you can stick to your old fleets, if they work for mobbing/stronghold/abyssals it should be fine and gradually replace for better stuff as you go

[woeful wren]

I have exactly 1 tenrai lol

[woeful wren]

Mobbing yes, the other stuff... eh... not so much

[knotty fractal]

since its completely out of my league to cook up fleet setup with so many ships i dont know about

[royal dirge]

Alright lemme try to fill in

[knotty fractal]

i know the meta comps and thats it, maybe i can pull in someone else with more experience to help

[woeful wren]

Do subs matter for opsi and if so- what are some good ones?

I've heard things about an elusive wolfpack but I'm not too sure on what those are.

[royal dirge]

wait you have flasher and archerfish

just focus on fishpack instead, raise albacore little by little

though subs are not really a priority since at max they probably don't even deal as much damage as you think, and they are very expensive

[calm pumice]

Tf? A decent sub fleet does as much as a backline

[royal dirge]

the point still stays the same, they shouldn't be prioritizing subs

[knotty fractal]

subs do alot of work when theyre good, but its a high investment (not really)

but in this case in particular its better to focus on other ships first

subs should be second last priority for his bulins and time

[woeful wren]

No idea what a fishback is but here's everything I have. SS = submarine right? I got that correct?

[royal dirge]

For now, my recommendation for your opsi is just put the highest level ship there, according to the ectl azur lane tierlist

[knotty fractal]

also you can 125 more ships, itll help with your clearing, unicorn and URs (except warspite) are generally good to 125

[woeful wren]

Right. I see. Thank you. Could I have the link to that please?

[royal dirge]

Look at the highest level ship you got (must MLB or full stars, eceptions is agir), look at ectl, mark each ship with TEX/T0/T1/T2
Then open the ships deployment, start filling the slots with TEX, then T0, T1, T2
The only important thing you need to think about is tank, you should always have tank in every fleet

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[woeful wren]

Right. That's good advice... if I already didn't promise myself I would only level up Sumire Uesaka's (my fav va) ships to level 125. Why? ion know I thought it was cool and unique, Why not chance my stance? im stubborn.

[calm pumice]

Or combine your fleets , you don't need to run pure CV or BBs

Soyuz Alsace Enterpise Tank Helena etc

[knotty fractal]

if you dont want to 125 more ships you will find problems against enemies at lv128/130 which are what stronghold/arbiter bosses are

the level difference means you do less damage and take more damage

[woeful wren]

That could work too

[woeful wren]

Mhms. Unfortunetly I am quite stubborn but I will take what you said to heart. Thank you.

[calm pumice]

It will take a while to max pure CV or Bb fleets

[royal dirge]

yes just smack your highest level ships

[woeful wren]

well tbh thats what I did last time and it didn't work lol

[royal dirge]

just patiently work towards this then

it is difficult to make 4 good fleets that is better than "slapping MLB high level high ECTL-tier ships into your opsi fleet"

[knotty fractal]

might also very well be a gear issue

[woeful wren]

that could very well be the case too. I don't have all that much gear, let alone good year.

[royal dirge]

yes, a ship done right can deal 20x damage

[woeful wren]

i havent even touched the gear lab yet tbh either

way too confusing for me

plus whenever i try and build something it says i dont have materials and idk where to get them. they never dropped in opsi before.

welp. im still not quite sure what to do here but... ill see if i can figure something out.

[royal dirge]

they are dropped in opsi in small amounts, 1 week of opsi might not give you all

[woeful wren]

...ive been doing opsi for months

[royal dirge]

the shop though, is a different story, since it gives a guarantee

[woeful wren]

i never saw it + im always broke + which shop lol

[royal dirge]

also what part of opsi are you struggling with

[royal dirge]

opsi shop, go to a blue port, then resupply

[woeful wren]

well tbh i can get most things from opsi

its scuffed but it (kinda not really) works

but thats only really for the main stuff

the abyssyls/oscures/strongholds/etc etc i get bodied

same with meta stuff, but i can just repeat those till i bully them-

[royal dirge]

yes you will get bodied there if you don't fulfill the requirements:

• adapts
• gears

[woeful wren]

what are adapts?

[royal dirge]

the 3 numbers

[woeful wren]

which three numbers

[royal dirge]

top left on your opsi when you are about to select a zone

[woeful wren]

ahh

those

gotcha

[royal dirge]

what do you have

[woeful wren]

this atm

[royal dirge]

yeah no wonder you get bodied

explorable and hidden C5, C6, Abyssals C4 C5 C6, arbiter, will bully you right now

[woeful wren]

oof

[woeful wren]

well... can you help me try and fill in the blanks for now? while i try and slowly work on what celerio said.

[royal dirge]

If you want a very strong mob fleet and some follow up damages,
soyuz unicorn alsace prinz eugen shimakaze laffey(augment)
enterprise saratoga arkroyal portland z23 roon
monarch georgia elizabeth guam belfast anchorage
slap whatever to fleet 4, not enough damage to matter

here you go, complexity is very complex, as I said i have to recheck a lot of things like level, durability, damage, synergy

[woeful wren]

oh i see

that does seem hard

[royal dirge]

the mob fleet, properly equipped, should destroy everything

with enough adapts too ofc

wait actually

[woeful wren]

what's annoying about temporarily making fleets is having to change them every couole of months lol

[woeful wren]

hrmm. which roon?

[royal dirge]

there we go I edited

[royal dirge]

original roon

[woeful wren]

not roon muse?

[royal dirge]

wait you have roon muse?

[woeful wren]

yes.

low level but-

yes

[royal dirge]

she is very tanky at 120

how low?

I can discern number don't worry just provide the numbers

roon is as tanky as portland goes, which is less tanky than say, your agir

[woeful wren]

like really low

[royal dirge]

what level is ur agir?

[royal dirge]

well don't raise her

[woeful wren]

still in development

so 0

just need combat data

[woeful wren]

i see

ill put her on the evergrowing list of ships to level anyways

[royal dirge]

dang agir is not even constructed

I didnt see it

[woeful wren]

yeah lol

[royal dirge]

no you don't need her at all tbh, there is much better tank and more useful

[woeful wren]

fair enough

[royal dirge]

I mean unless personal reason ofc

[woeful wren]

ill just keep on list anyways, never know

[royal dirge]

okay for agir's replacement...

[woeful wren]

keep on list but at a lower priority

[royal dirge]

I edited

[royal dirge]

she is uselss as in she does not provide fleet tech and she is not strong enough, anchorage and agir and guam will probably done before she is, and by that time she is powercrept

[royal dirge]

again, that mob fleet should roll if geared right

[woeful wren]

So is this okay then? Just clarigying that this is correct?

[royal dirge]

looks pretty good, you even made a crossfleet there with percy and 2 ur bbs

[woeful wren]

figured i would try and slap something together even if its gonna go fxck all.

[calm pumice]

Why the fuck are your best BBs with unicorn

[royal dirge]

that mob fleet is just a bit short on soloing stronghold and abyssals

once you replace eugen with someone else like agir, you should be able to comfortably clear

and if you feel you are short by some damage, you can always grab the joystick, switch shima's torp to manual and do lots of damage

[calm pumice]

He can pretty easily make a 2nd fleet with ships like Helena , much better to make the strongest possible fleet and clear higher content

[woeful wren]

joystick?

[royal dirge]

unfortunately you were too busy in the gph chat arguing

[calm pumice]

Cause that mob fleet is gonna struggle against some stronger abyssals

2UR BBs Enterprise Tank helena Dps/support

Leave the mob fleet the leftovers

[royal dirge]

and just fall over in mob?

[calm pumice]

His mob fleet is going to heal after every fight anyway , what's the difference making the boss fleet fight it

[royal dirge]

well anyways, I used the fleet in my smurf and I can pretty comfortably clear abyssals and stronghold with non-UR gear, with enough adapts

[calm pumice]

Unicorn sustain doesn't matter when you entire frontline gets fucked . Might as well run better damage

[woeful wren]

guys please. when you say stuff like "tank" or "others" it confuses me. im not knowledgable enough to make my own descisions on what is good, on what is a good subsitute, on what works well together and chances are ill just slap on some waifu instead.

[calm pumice]

A stronger boss fleet means fighting stronger abyssals , which means better materials

[royal dirge]

imagine a life where you can click auto and let your fleet run without risk of sinking? trust me, use the mob fleet I gave you

that is enough to fight stronger abyssals as well.

[woeful wren]

tbh i dont think ive ever used the 2nd/3rd/4th fleet in opsi anyways...

[royal dirge]

yes you will never need to switch fleet if you follow my fleet

[calm pumice]

Laffey 2, and unicorn are just detriments to damage

[royal dirge]

I said laffey aug

[woeful wren]

actually speaking of that

[royal dirge]

that laffey is wearing the skin

lol

[calm pumice]

Wait is that Norma Laffey , that's even worse

[woeful wren]

were we talking laffey 1 or 2 here

cause thats laffey 2

[royal dirge]

laffey 1 with aug smh

god damnit, I am actually wrong in that laffey

[calm pumice]

If you insist then at least use Helena somewhere

Why tf would you not use your best damage amp

[royal dirge]

cause she is too difficult to use

[calm pumice]

No shes not

UR BBs sync very easily with her

[woeful wren]

idk man. im just doing what people tell me to do. is this better?

[royal dirge]

using helena in mob fleet?

[calm pumice]

If she is gonna fight in stuff like stronghold why not

[royal dirge]

trust me, that mob fleet gonna clear everything

[calm pumice]

Even syncing 1 salvo would make her contribution greater then starter Laffey

[royal dirge]

that's a sync setup, which you don't even use in normal opsi

[woeful wren]

if it makes the descision easier portland has lvl 1 skills while helena has level 10

well anyways- im gonna just try this. if it doesnt work i can come back and ask for help afterward.

might as well try it.

while ive got you here

[royal dirge]

gears?

[woeful wren]

can i have help with normal fleets lol

[royal dirge]

sure

[woeful wren]

i should have all that sorted, i can look at the wiki thing

[royal dirge]

nice one

is this normal fleet for campaign pushing?

cause in chapter 12 farming, as long as your ship can survive, it is good enough

[woeful wren]

Kinda. My setup is kinda weird..

• Fleet 1 = Unicorn + 5 level 70/100 ships for farming on 12-4
• Fleet 2 = Standard Mobbage fleet which is used for dailies, some events, war archives, etc. I do it this way because of affinity lol.
• Fleet 3 = Standard Boss fleet used for same purpose as fleet 2.

I need some help with fleet 2 and 3

[royal dirge]

hmm, I would prefer something like

• Fleet 1 = 6 level 95-100 ships to farm 12-1, then try 12-4 if you feel they are strong enough
• Fleet 2 = Another 6 ships that you level, they should be pretty close to 120 (like level 115 needing a few more levels)
• Fleet 3 = Unicorn and laffey1(augment) to do daily event A1 to C3
• Fleet 4 = New Jersey, Perseus, UvH, and some other crossfleet

[woeful wren]

That seems kinda cumber some ngl

[royal dirge]

yeah tbh, but doing so increase your exp from 5 to 6 ships instead

[woeful wren]

I suppose so

But I would rather consistency then anything

Which is why Unicorn is there

[royal dirge]

yeah Unicorn basically allow you to not calculate whether those ships will survive in 12-1 or 12-4

but 12-1 is trading some gold for easier enemy

[knotty fractal]

i tend to desync my tech farming fleet levels so at any given time i have like 3 lv110 ships and 3 lv95-100 ships

[royal dirge]

yes this setup

[knotty fractal]

and with half decent gear it works in 12-4

[woeful wren]

What does this mean

[royal dirge]

you don't max level 6 ships to 120 at once, but you stop at different level so they can farm at a higher level

[knotty fractal]

it means my farming fleet looks like this

[woeful wren]

Oh I see. That would really annoy my OCD though lol.

[knotty fractal]

the backline levels faster than the frontline so they get swapped more often

[royal dirge]

ikr

some people even have ships not in 5s, like level 114, 109, 91, 76

[woeful wren]

I legit have had nightmares about that.

[royal dirge]

I just avoid looking at cheeky's 12-1 sample fleet whenever possible

[knotty fractal]

ive never been bothered by it due to my inability to read

[woeful wren]

Who?

[woeful wren]

I guess that's one way lol

[royal dirge]

this survives 12-1

With rainbow equipment and high tech though, so you should level your fleet to at least 95 first through books

[knotty fractal]

just gear them with semi decent gear and theyll live 12-4 without a healer

[woeful wren]

I may switch in future but the setup I've been using so far has worked so- I think I'll continue like that. It just needs a new coat of paint (ie upgraded)

[woeful wren]

Who's that ship with the black ribbon

[royal dirge]

long island's skin

[woeful wren]

seriously that's long island?

huh

what do you know

[royal dirge]

I have her skin too

it was free

[woeful wren]

I guess for reference, this is my farming fleet atm. They are nearly 120.

URs for URs
The others cause I thought it would be funny to make a witch skin themed fleet

[woeful wren]

i think i have it too tbh

[royal dirge]

let's see, shinano there should have 4 planes, and uvh there should have 2 main gun mount. But you have guam 2lb and nubi

[woeful wren]

im not caring too much about the composition or the equipment for stuff im levelling tbh

i dont even think nubian has a main gun lol

[royal dirge]

oh you probably should care a little bit

[woeful wren]

*okay now she does

[royal dirge]

also you shouldn't level non-mlb ships because they are bad

[woeful wren]

kind of but not really

[woeful wren]

even though they are ur?

[royal dirge]

the 4-plane shinano have less damage than, say, the very bad long island

[woeful wren]

this is where tenrai

[royal dirge]

yes that's why I didn't recommend you the UvH, NJ, or the guam on the opsi mob fleet

[knotty fractal]

oh dear

ships is half the battle, gear is the other half

[royal dirge]

maxed shinano has 2 tenrais, 3 suiseis, and 4 barracuda, with more efficiency
your shinano only has 1 tenrai, 2 suiseis, and 1 barracuda

[knotty fractal]

if you have good ships but bad gear, it wont work well

[woeful wren]

as i said, im not caring much for stuff im levelling up. as long as they W for 12-4 then it dont matter. I go and actually gear them properly if they are gonna go on a fleet, otherwise, I take the gear off the shiny new 120 and dump it on the next level 70 ship to jump on the unicorn bus.

[royal dirge]

maxed uvh has 3 main gun mounts with more efficiency
your uvh only has 2 main gun mounts

[woeful wren]

you think i have that kinda gear lol

[royal dirge]

no that's how the gear count on Cvs work

[woeful wren]

well anyways- as i was saying-

[royal dirge]

here, you put 1 equipment on a slot, but on battle, when it is launched, you will see 9 planes

[woeful wren]

my fleets 2 and 3 could use some help

[woeful wren]

ohh i see

[royal dirge]

what are those though

do you just need ships to be put there?

I can grab you some from your list

[woeful wren]

at the moment? nothing

[royal dirge]

and 9 planes definitely deals more than twice the damage of 4 planes

[woeful wren]

that'll work. thank you. as long as it fits the purpose ive descriped it should be fine.

[royal dirge]

monarch yorktown hiryuu heinrich sandiego brennus
soyuz alsace enterprise prinzeugen shimakaze roon

also use your second fleet for 12-4 boss fight

[woeful wren]

why

not my 3rd fleet?

[royal dirge]

lighter work for unicorn

3rd fleet is too strong, it is only for SP

[royal dirge]

so here fleet 1 and 2 fight in 12-4, then you keep fleet 3 to use for boss event SP

also again, it seems like you need to care a bit about your gear, otherwise our suggestions might just not work

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment