How not to get whopped by 14-3 | Azur Lane Official | Page 1

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:43 AM

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Alright, so I'll try to either upload images or I'll list what I have

ripe fractal Nov 13, 2024, 1:43 AM

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just screenshot your dock

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:44 AM

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green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:44 AM

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ripe fractal just screenshot your dock

Yeah, just couldn't upload in the og message I had a doubt for a sec

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Yes, I will accept I'm an idiot running faction fleets

ripe fractal Nov 13, 2024, 1:45 AM

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am i blind or is there a significant lack of unicorn

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:45 AM

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I only ever used Perseus for mobbing heal

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She is down there at level 70 I think

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 1:45 AM

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Yeah nowadays Unicorn is just better than Perseus

ripe fractal Nov 13, 2024, 1:46 AM

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see the thing is faction fleets CAN "work" even in w14/w15 but you will likely have to manual and it will be a lot more difficult PortDoll i dont recommend it

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at least HMS has healers EssexWheeze

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:46 AM

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Ah no I have her retrofit

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Still 90 though

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 1:46 AM

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Mob: FDG, Unicorn, Volga, Azuma, Scylla, Shimanto
Boss: UvH, Shinano, Amagi CV, Agir, Yuudachi, Anchorage

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 1:47 AM

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Assuming manual 15-3 is harder than 15-4, rip IB faction fleeter

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:47 AM

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So I think the fleet is just terrible because I do manual

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 1:47 AM

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let me get gear real quick

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 1:47 AM

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green shale So I think the fleet is just terrible because I do manual

well that would be part of the issue

ripe fractal Nov 13, 2024, 1:47 AM

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if you manual you have more leeway on what can work but best to go with meta picks if you arent particularly skilled

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EssexWheeze

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clear it first with meta picks and learn the fights then you can go back and try with faction fleets if you really want to, imo

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 1:48 AM

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faction fleets are self-imposed handicap

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especially knowing there are better ships and still use faction fleets

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:48 AM

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high sage faction fleets are self-imposed handicap

It was relevant for me only when I ran Nagato

stray snow Nov 13, 2024, 1:48 AM

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manual to number 1 on ex or manual like that person who insisted they were the greatest at missing every bb shot

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 1:49 AM

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stray snow manual to number 1 on ex or manual like that person who insisted they were the g...

who missing all bb shots, berke?

ripe fractal Nov 13, 2024, 1:49 AM

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on the bright side hms and ijn faction fleets are on the easier side for w14. PortDoll

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tho idk what would be a relevant hms mobbing bb

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unless nelson works still

sage oar Nov 13, 2024, 1:50 AM

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ripe fractal tho idk what would be a relevant hms mobbing bb

musashi

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fdg

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:50 AM

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I was XPing Howe to go up a tier or two compared to Warspite

ripe fractal Nov 13, 2024, 1:50 AM

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but yeah clear first then think about faction if you want

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:50 AM

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But still underway

stray snow Nov 13, 2024, 1:50 AM

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high sage who missing all bb shots, berke?

nah it was years ago

sage oar Nov 13, 2024, 1:50 AM

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tier?

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:50 AM

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I use tierlist

ripe fractal Nov 13, 2024, 1:50 AM

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sage oar musashi

i said hms PortDoll but ye i dont think there is one

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 1:50 AM

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vanguard unicorn implac might work for hms setup, doubt they have vang though

stray snow Nov 13, 2024, 1:51 AM

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vanguard probably works but also doesn't exist

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:51 AM

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To give myself an idea of whatever ship to use

sage oar Nov 13, 2024, 1:51 AM

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ectl tierlist mentioned, as a local ectl resident i have to say it’s shit

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:51 AM

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Alright

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3DJoy

sage oar Nov 13, 2024, 1:51 AM

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it’s not terrible as long as you read

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 1:52 AM

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vanguard is sleeper pick, with fast reload and auto crit and high aa

ripe fractal Nov 13, 2024, 1:52 AM

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green shale I was XPing Howe to go up a tier or two compared to Warspite

both howe and warspoot are boss preferred according to ectl

sage oar Nov 13, 2024, 1:52 AM

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~~but if you come to ectl then im not forced to be nice~~

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:52 AM

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Yeah

ripe fractal Nov 13, 2024, 1:52 AM

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DunktsukiStare they are unlikely to be best picks for mob

sage oar Nov 13, 2024, 1:52 AM

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high sage vanguard is sleeper pick, with fast reload and auto crit and high aa

plus whatever damage buff she does and what not

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 1:52 AM

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sage oar Nov 13, 2024, 1:53 AM

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flagship uvh gaming (I know she’s bad off flag in w14)

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:53 AM

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craggy dawn

A question for this

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 1:53 AM

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yes

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:53 AM

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Is the AA setup of the vanguards specific to 14 ?

sage oar Nov 13, 2024, 1:54 AM

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looks like cheeky wanted to be lazy

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:54 AM

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I usually have one hefty AA carry with big gun and accelerators

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 1:54 AM

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not exactly, that's just the lazy set up

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:54 AM

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Ah right

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 1:54 AM

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for when AA isn't that big a deal but you can't ignore it

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:54 AM

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I don't have that much UR equipment but I'll do my best

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 1:55 AM

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well what do you have

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 1:55 AM

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funny how you would need more thinking in case that you can ignore AA

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 1:55 AM

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what

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 1:55 AM

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STAAG or +15 fp

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 1:56 AM

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backline Stagg

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vanguard FP unless they're heavily skewed towards torps

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 1:57 AM

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Discovering the joys of the Gear Lab

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(Shamefully expensive)

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All my vanguard cruisers just run EVA+toolbox basically

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Then I have the UR torp aux for DDs

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 1:59 AM

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green shale Then I have the UR torp aux for DDs

use toolbox instead

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 1:59 AM

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green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:00 AM

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high sage use toolbox instead

Toolbox + TRP is good ? It's what I do

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:00 AM

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if you can survive it's fine

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and it goes without saying this is built with auto in mind

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:00 AM

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Also, Amagi CV better than Hakuryuu for this ?

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:00 AM

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yes

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:00 AM

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Haku is Fate 5 and like, always is top damage

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Maybe she got better things too

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:01 AM

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Amagi is buffing the torp damage of Shinano and Yuudachi by 15%

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:01 AM

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Barely even

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:01 AM

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what

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a flat 15% damage boost isn't anything to take lightly

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:01 AM

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Yeah Haku is just damage for herself, fair enough

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:02 AM

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craggy dawn a flat 15% damage boost isn't anything to take lightly

No sorry, the "barely even" was answering my message prior, they have similar loadouts

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:02 AM

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all I can say is do not underestimate Amagi

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:03 AM

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I wouldn't expect less from an UR

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Also Volga being level 111 is a problem ?

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:03 AM

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yes

ripe fractal Nov 13, 2024, 2:03 AM

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get them all to 120 at least

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:03 AM

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everyone should be level 120 minimum

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skills maxed, all +10 gear, etc

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:04 AM

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No alternative to Volga at all in my whole CV pool ?

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:04 AM

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you do

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but you have to level Unicorn from scratch anyway

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and Volga is pretty much the best option

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good tech too

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:05 AM

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Level 90 instead of scratch thank god

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:06 AM

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actually what Dev level is that Brest

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:07 AM

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26

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Currently focusing my PR5s, both her and Plymouth are 26

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:08 AM

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use her instead of Azuma then

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same gear

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:09 AM

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Poor oathed Azuma out here being inept to be better than a Dev 26 Brest

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 2:10 AM

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~~waifu belongs in your HQ, not the battlefield~~

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:12 AM

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Real waifu is Haku and she ends up in the HQ all the same sobdissolve

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I'll try to craft some JU87s

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Although my horde of B7A Ryusei is same-ish no ?

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The unreliable ectl says less bit less reliable for bit more damage

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 2:16 AM

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craggy dawn

why the triple torps on shimanto

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:17 AM

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burn mitigation

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 2:17 AM

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green shale The unreliable ectl says less bit less reliable for bit more damage

they are basically the same, just keep in mind when substituting, make sure that the launches are not too close

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:19 AM

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On which BB is my +13 Admiralty table better off ?

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:19 AM

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FDG

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:20 AM

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Also, boss is a heavy armour ?

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:20 AM

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no

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14-3 boss is actually light armor

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and 14-4 is medium

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:21 AM

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craggy dawn 14-3 boss is actually light armor

Then why run AP UvH ?

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:21 AM

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a bit of auto pilot and bit being the bosses are such push overs it honestley hasn't mattered

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:22 AM

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She has a 15% damage buff on light with HE

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Also I use a double barrel and it's like so funny to see her fire every 8s or so

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 2:22 AM

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green shale Also I use a double barrel and it's like so funny to see her fire every 8s or so

no it will not, UvH is flag there

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:22 AM

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Nyooo

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But now the question is why not off-flag ?
Genuine interrogation btw

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I seek understanding of meta to one day wipe that mfing Hard Arbiter

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 2:23 AM

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if UvH off flag, she can't reach one side of the screen

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:23 AM

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not just that

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UvH off flag is more susceptible to getting herself killed

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in W14

ripe fractal Nov 13, 2024, 2:24 AM

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she gets revealed faster due to more activations

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:24 AM

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she'll basically keep herself perma revealed meaning she'll get targeted by enemy BBs and burnt to a crisp

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:25 AM

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Aight

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Well thank you all for taking the time to explain all this

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Also, where XSBC

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Isn't it a good dive bomber ?

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:33 AM

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It's a Helldiver with 20 more AVI that you can +13

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use them since you have them and invested plates into them but put in anything more

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:35 AM

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Baraccuda bad for parallel torp bombing ?

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:36 AM

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it's damage is a bit lackluster at this stage

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:36 AM

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I had plans to craft the parallel you put up it's no problem

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Just wondering

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:36 AM

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Vit-2s would be the better transitional bomber until you get Wyverns

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:38 AM

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That's a bit far, I invested recently in the UR mag torps, and now I'm going for the HMS CA gun

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I am doing a lot of OPS but alas

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Store already almost empty

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:38 AM

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huh

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Plymouth gun isn't in the lab

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and the UR Quints are a waste

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they're side grades to the gold quad mags you get from tech boxes

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the Drake gun is also really far down the priority list

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the Tenrai should be added in a few months

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and even now a 2nd 457 or a Spearfish would be a better use of T3 Ordinance reports than the Drake gun

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:40 AM

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craggy dawn Plymouth gun isn't in the lab

What is her gun

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:40 AM

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craggy dawn and the UR Quints are a waste

And which sobdissolve

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:40 AM

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Quad 152mm

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:41 AM

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green shale And which <a:sobdissolve:924801260463484979>

UR Quint torps

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:41 AM

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craggy dawn UR Quint torps

Well that's sad because they're on Yuudachi now

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Also, given the glimpse of stuff and ships you saw, do I have a long way before handling the Hard Arbiter ?

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Without staying 10 days on it regrouping every 8 hours I mean

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Or maybe it is like this...

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:43 AM

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uhh

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one, regroup doesn't work against hard arbiter

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:43 AM

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Ah right

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I forgor

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:43 AM

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you won't be able to remove the debuff

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:44 AM

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I saw it last time I tried even

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:44 AM

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don't worry too much about beating arbiter, most rewards are behind normal arbiter

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:44 AM

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I downed 10% with my 4 fleets I think

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Yeah I clear Normal arbiter although this month's was HORRIBLE

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It seemed every boss had that 15% HP regen and I hated it

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:48 AM

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green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:56 AM

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B-but, Plymouth and Brest !

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Although yes, I really need it

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 2:57 AM

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oh wait sorry wrong channel

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keep with PR5 research focus for now

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 2:57 AM

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Lmao

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Yes

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Also I intend very much to get Musashi in the coming event

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Would she be worth it instead of UvH/FdG ?

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 3:01 AM

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what worth it, arent your fdg and uvh maxed?

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also musashi is the strongest mob BB, so levelling her most likely is worth

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 3:02 AM

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Yes they are, or at least 123-ish

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 3:02 AM

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green shale Would she be worth it instead of UvH/FdG ?

she would be an upgrade

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 3:03 AM

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green shale Yes they are, or at least 123-ish

you already invested that far, what is there to be compared anymore, the 600k exp to level 125?

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 3:03 AM

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Fair enough

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That'll be a nice addition for OP Siren though

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 3:05 AM

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the only reason musashi might not be worth is when the new UR ship just straight up powercreeping musashi when you can afford the 4 UR bulins, so just ask later on again

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 3:06 AM

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Also wow okay Unicorn is better than Perseus lmao

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Looking at her heal in my auto battle, oof

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I was fooled all along

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By myself of course

high sage Nov 13, 2024, 3:07 AM

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unicorn actually heals less, but what matters is the net durability, since unicorn has more damage and sink enemy quicker

green shale Nov 13, 2024, 3:07 AM

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Would've still been a faction fleet at that

craggy dawn Nov 13, 2024, 3:09 AM

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high sage unicorn actually heals less, but what matters is the net durability, since unico...

heals less how

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