any thoughts based on my current operation, siren formations and my current at least SR and UR characters?
#Operation Siren / World 13/14
balmy jacinth
replace Owari with Alsace
uneven glen
any other suggestions? Agir is almost a level 30 but it’s still gonna take several more blueprints to get her there. She’s at dev level 29 right now. The next UR I’m working on getting to max is Vanguard.
Also, I need to get world 13 to safe and then start on 14 so I’m not sure if anybody has any advice for good formations for those. I have all of 13 unlocked but they’re not safe. Then I haven’t even started 14 yet.
balmy jacinth
dont think you'd be facing any issue on w13
lots of good AA ships
put guam sandy on boss with 1 or 2 UR BB+UR CV, let mob triple CV+laffey2
maybe take the chance to raise independence, good ship
uneven glen
maybe take the chance to raise independence, good ship
I have to double check, but I think she’s been sitting in my dorm for a while trying to level her up
also, why no Mogador on operation siren fleets? Is max limit breaked?
balmy jacinth
not enough space to slot in most UR nowadays 😂
you can use her on mob fleet or something
but BB fleet and CV fleet pretty much already set in stone with those vanguards
uneven glen
not enough space to slot in most UR nowadays 😂
wdym?
Also just to show you if it’s necessary or not
I’m also working on unlocking an iron blood PR/DR6 ship at the moment I just need the retrofit materials.
thorn sandal
Mog simply gets sidelined simply because there's no place within current fleets for her outside of mob 
balmy jacinth
grind her at w12, faster exp than dorm passive exp
pretty much on every other ship you want to level
uneven glen
grind her at w12, faster exp than dorm passive exp
Independence or Mogador?
balmy jacinth
indep
uneven glen
pretty much on every other ship you want to level
Any thoughts on my current dorm situation then?
formal belfry
i would recommend fast farming fleet for mob, with 2 preload + 1 half preload, your choices are limited to chise + yumi + uni, and use guam+harbin+unzen/ibuki as vanguard, should be enough to handle all daily farming + solo clearing strong holds
fleet 2 and 3 you can build bb + cv or mixed fleets,
fleet 4 is basically there only for crossfleet
balmy jacinth
Any thoughts on my current dorm situation then?
not really, just put whoever you want there for passive exp
uneven glen
what do you mean preload?
uneven glen
this is a ship. I’m currently trying to unlock while I’m still waiting to finish off Agir in PR4. All other PR four ships are fully maxed out at FS5.
I don’t mind switching though to farming fleets in terms of the regular campaign if need be, though since I’m already done with the XP for her. I just don’t have the cruise or retrofit materials necessary at the moment.
Give me a moment to get back to my computer, and I can work on some possibilities of things to switch around in which I may have more questions in a bit
uneven glen
i would recommend fast farming fleet for mob, with 2 preload + 1 half preload, y...
Chise is only level 12 and yumi is only level 40. I do not see the point in that atm. I do not have ship named ibuki atm. Also I know nothing about fleet building. That is why I asked so coming up with a fleet on my own is not something I can do on my own without advice
balmy jacinth
it's fine mob fleet is easy, you can use nelson or owari+uni and another flex
uneven glen
replace Owari with Alsace
Alsace is already in Fleet 4. I would have to swap someone else in her place.
balmy jacinth
preload fleet only shave off a bit of your time, it's a QoL improvement but it's not really a must
you won't be using fleet 4 most of the time, so just shove in whatever crossfleet you wanna use there
like even amagi cv 
something better than nothing
uneven glen
you won't be using fleet 4 most of the time, so just shove in whatever crossflee...
any thoughts though for what to put in her place if I move Alsace in place of Owari?
uneven glen
oh derp doesn't work here
wdym derp?
balmy jacinth
#bot-spam do /crossfleet and check whatever you can shove in it
balmy jacinth
wdym derp?
dont mind it, just an expression of speech
uneven glen
I guess I will put Vanguard there
formal belfry
eh, ok, just a recommendation
if you don't feel like building that fleet, then just use whatever you prefer.
the main purpose of it is to save you time and trouble irl, the main benefit of using other fleets are exp, not much tho
uneven glen
eh, ok, just a recommendation
if you don't feel like building that fleet, then j...
I do not mind building those characters, but it will be a while before they are usable
@formal belfry I put Chise and Yumi in my dorm for now
formal belfry
yeah, it's a good idea if you think improving opsi farming efficiency is what you want, or it's totally fine if you want to do it later. opsi isn't going anywhere.
uneven glen
btw working on a rework of gear for Op Si based my current available gear. Give me a little bit and let me know if you have any thoughts.
uneven glen
Still working on it will post it when I finish and what gear is left not used. I am also going in order of which they appear in my dock to reequip them
uneven glen
Here is what gear I have leftover if you have any advice on how to change up these loadouts for Operation Siren
just realized though I missed equipping one white shell, but any advice would be appreciated.
quasi stump
are those fleets updated with what you were advised with
uneven glen
I just used what gear I have atm. I am not good at figuring out what gear to equip. I just guessed.
quasi stump
as in the ships
uneven glen
again. I just guessed. I am not really great with figuring out how to build ships or fleet formations.
quasi stump
so what help have you received so far
uneven glen
so what help have you received so far
using the one website I just took a guess at what was good based on what gear I currently have but I know it is not perfect.
Just to swap out two ships and that is it
quasi stump
I meant, what help did Mori and Dfg give you
uneven glen
Just told to put Alsace in place of where Owari was earlier. Then put Vanguard where Alsace was that is about it. If you can see the chat history I have no clue what @formal belfry was talking about for fleet formations other than that.
quasi stump
so the goals are opsi and w13/14, and we've made little progress
ok
what would you like to focus on first
uneven glen
languid jolt
Is your vanguard even maxed
uneven glen
The fourth photo and beyond I pretty much have no clue what they are talking about mostly. Vanguard is level 99 and one star away from max.
quasi stump
look there's too many things to solve so
can we decide which we want to settle first
quasi stump
alright
so firstly
the 4th fleet goes bye bye
we're gonna ignore it and focus on the 3 fleets
uneven glen
Am I swapping it out for an entirely different fleet or just not using it?
quasi stump
mostly the latter
uneven glen
ok
quasi stump
if we have spare stuff we can dump there later, but dont expect to use it
a few things of note
uneven glen
ok well I have the link to current setup and pictures of leftover gear so hopefully that helps
quasi stump
this gun monarch is using is atrocious
and you have 6 of them
get rid of all of them
uneven glen
Well I need a 4th fleet to be able to save any changes
languid jolt
FDG needs table much more then Alsace
quasi stump
i mean goose
there's a vanny with the table too for some reason
so we could just give fdg vanny's table
uneven glen
same with the 4 quad 356s
Which ones are those?
quasi stump
get rid of these
languid jolt
so we could just give fdg vanny's table
That's more likely to be the same table
quasi stump
these too
uneven glen
done
quasi stump
how many of this do you have
uneven glen
1 at the current moment
quasi stump
goose was right then
uneven glen
I doubt I have resources to make anymore then just yet
quasi stump
event limited
uneven glen
if I get 4 more bps I will be able to craft another UR Prototype Tenrai t0 and if I get 5 more bps I will be able to craft my first Prototype Twin 457mm Main Gun UR version
I just need to get bps for them first
quasi stump
...which research series are you doing now
uneven glen
uneven glen
...which research series are you doing now
You referring to the Research Academy? If so PR 4 because of Agir is the only one I have left to finish. She is currently at dev level 29
quasi stump
yes
uneven glen
but working on unlocking PR6 character at the same time
uneven glen
They are all unlocked in 5 just not maxed out yet
quasi stump
all the more you shd stick to 5
uneven glen
yeah that was already my plan
research wise not unlock wise
minus the moving on to six. I can work on unlocking 7 next time I am able to switch character unlocks. But regarding research wise I had already planned to move to PR5 after I finish Agir.
Going back to Op Si though any thoughts?
quasi stump
im adjusting the fleets
uneven glen
ok
quasi stump
how many flapjacks
quasi stump
could you show me what CA guns you have
uneven glen
I can research one but it would deplete my resources, so probably not the most ideal option
uneven glen
could you show me what CA guns you have
Which filter can I use for that? I do not see an in game filter for that.
I see DD, CL, and BB main gun filters only
quasi stump
just go to a CA you have and tap on the main gun slot
uneven glen
Not very much at all
give me a moment and can show you what I can craft once I get the credits back.
uneven glen
There is not everything but a decent amount of what I can currently crap but I don’t have a lot of credits right now
How ever many is on the link I posted. So
quasi stump
for now a sneak peak
uneven glen
I do need to level up Independence though. Right now she is level 99.
uneven glen
ok well btw are these still going to be the first three fleets you suggest?
quasi stump
for now a sneak peak
this is your mob
uneven glen
ok and will work on leveling up Independence since she is currently 99
quasi stump
thats better
diff gear for diff purpose
top for light, bottm for med/heavy
im assuming fdg is fs5?
the carriers are atrocrious so those need a lot of tuning
uneven glen
im assuming fdg is fs5?
yep!
uneven glen
top for light, bottm for med/heavy
How would you know when to switch each out?
uneven glen
you check the enemy boss
What am I looking for and in at least Op Si how do you know if they are a boss or not. Still learning Op Si more than main campaign units.
quasi stump
red swirly circles are called strongholds - very strong mobs + strong-ish boss
you can leave at any time to heal
red treasure chest are abyssals
those are solo bosses
you have to clear it with your teams as is and cannot leave to heal
uneven glen
thats better
The top photo Agir's first weapon I do not have any of those yet.
quasi stump
azuma gun
quasi stump
gear lab then
uneven glen
Which one. I will check but I may not have the resources or credits rn
uneven glen
I found it but I do not have the resoruces for that gun yet
uneven glen
uneven glen
just use agir gun
Which one is that?
uneven glen
ok
quasi stump
which of the gold ones here do you have, and how many
uneven glen
thats better
Dont have that gun you put on top pic for Unzen either yet. Plus I need to put something in fleet 3 and 4 so it will let me save the formations
uneven glen
i havent even given you a fleet 3
Yeah but I tried the game will not let me save formations unless I have a fleet 3 or 4
quasi stump
which of the gold ones here do you have, and how many
so this
cant progress with CV until i know this
check your craft too
uneven glen
I cannot even craft that top gun you showed for Unzen yet either. Also not enough resources
uneven glen
which of the gold ones here do you have, and how many
What do I sort by to find these?
quasi stump
torpedo bombers
uneven glen
quasi stump
craft that ryuusei
uneven glen
but keep in mind I need more gold atm before crafting. I am very low
quasi stump
also craft this, by hook or by crook
uneven glen
should I then just keep what’s on on in right now because because I can’t craft that other gun you suggested
quasi stump
even if you use up all your electronics
uneven glen
also craft this, by hook or by crook
cannot I do not think
quasi stump
you have enough electronics
uneven glen
I do not have the necessary purple plane to craft it yet and not sure if I have the gold atm
quasi stump
to craft the purple plane
you need to get a blue plane
to craft that blue plane
you need another blue plane
uneven glen
I only have 926 gold atm
quasi stump
that blue plane can be found in purple ironblood boxes
get more coins then
do your daily raids, take from mail, missions etc
you can +10 them later
but craft this first
uneven glen
already did most of that, but I need to probably redo my campaign farm roster which we can discuss next. But which plane is the purple or blue one. Not sure what I am looking for
quasi stump
check if you can craft the ar195
if no, go open some purple rarity german tech boxes
uneven glen
ok as soon as I have enough gold I can make one. But need to figure out campaign or other op si fleets first
quasi stump
i cant till you make this
because your CVs are close to useless for opsi with their current planes
and the CV is the last part of your opsi fleet
uneven glen
ok well here is the current situation with current campaign fleets and all of 12 is safe but 13 is not all safe, but unlocked and 14 have not started
quasi stump
ignore 14 for now
uneven glen
ok so then 12 or try and get 13 to safe?
quasi stump
complete 13
park yourself in w12
for the forseeable future
get your stuff levelled
uneven glen
13 is complete but not all nodes are at safe yet
uneven glen
Well for XP grind are there any ships I should use in chapter 12?
that is what’s currently set atm but there isn’t gear on every character right now
quasi stump
exp grind is precisely so you can level up low level ships
like say that independence
uneven glen
ok
uneven glen
Volga I do not have resources to boost her so she can get past 120 yet.
uneven glen
Not sure if this will work or not
quasi stump
To be frank
With the right ships, you can definitely clear 14-1 and 14-2 at this point
Further beyond
I'm not convinced
You're still using a lot of poverty options after all
Hakuryuu, Volga, Plymouth, August, Sirius, Kazagumo, Independence, Harbin
uneven glen
What about something like this for mob Fleet for campaign until some of those characters you get to where I can’t get them any further for the time being
quasi stump
Hakuryuu, Volga, Plymouth, August, Sirius, Kazagumo, Independence, Harbin
These are your priorities to raise
Especially Hakuryuu and August
Replace the amagi for august
That Amagi is a fat load of dung without 6* anyways
uneven glen
let me check. I know I cannot do Volga until I get the resources for her. Not sure about AVP or some of those others. One moment
uneven glen
do not have the resources rn for AvP, Volga, or anything at 120
quasi stump
It doesn't matter if you do not
I'm asking you to gather the experience for them in w12
quasi stump
So that you can you know, use them later
Kears not even close to dev10, let alone 30
So more useless than a white rarity BB
Brest is worse than existing options till at least dev 25
uneven glen
I see
well I did this for now, I cannot do plymouth until she returns from a commision I just auto placed her in.
thoughts on gear then in the interim?
I will open a new tab for gear for them to use while I grind their xp
which also goes for fleet 2 boss for xp grind
quasi stump
It doesn't matter
uneven glen
ok well I need to keep it separate from Op Si
quasi stump
Drop the Volga for independence
uneven glen
Well for XP grind are there any ships I should use in chapter 12?
current boss fleet is second picture
uneven glen
ok what about mob?
uneven glen
yeah I mean gear recommendations. I know which one mob is
quasi stump
Just use what you were already using
uneven glen
ok
quasi stump
I still have to figure your CV fleets 
Don't ask me to figure out something else as well
uneven glen
thats better
oh btw problem with the bottom is I only have two of that first SR gun you show and not three.
quasi stump
and thats why the protocore shop exists
you're meant to get 3 of them
tenrai and 457 are lower priority
uneven glen
what type of gun is that btw?
quasi stump
AP
uneven glen
I found it under BB gun. I only have 5 bp of 25 towards crafting another gun
quasi stump
and thats why the protocore shop exists
^
uneven glen
been trying to get my UR ships up lately
quasi stump
go see how many more protocore you can scrounge up
from blueprint analysis
and combat data packs
uneven glen
none I know that already. I saw earlier
quasi stump
well
you really fucked up there
that's gonna hurt progression in opsi a lot
dealing 25-40% less damage is yikes
uneven glen
I swapped out Harbin atm for Plymouth
well I have been trying to get my UR ships max limit breaked. If I do well ok then. I did not know that at the time.
quasi stump
i suppose there's always gear lab
uneven glen
yeah which again I do not really have the resources for either atm
quasi stump
just so you know - these are by far the worst things to buy with protocore
uneven glen
I was not I was doing UR bulin
quasi stump
UR bulins use different materials
this tells me you were using your protocore for the wrong things
uneven glen
well UR and stuff for ur gears yes
quasi stump
as good as ply gun is
uneven glen
well again did not know that at the moment. Everyone I ask kept giving me different advice so it gets confusing
quasi stump
dealing 25-40% less damage is yikes
it doesnt help quite this much
how much core data do you have right now
@uneven glen
uneven glen
this
quasi stump
that is not core data
that is specialised core and prototype core
this tab
your latest fleets now
top for med/light
bottom for heavy
uneven glen
ok. I will let you know when I craft that piece of gear
uneven glen
made the plane but that was all I could do atm
uneven glen
this tab
Not a lot. Been using those to get white shells, then character specific items, then starting on that aux for IB subs
quasi stump
top for med/light
bottom for heavy
Get the maintenance manjuu from core data shop
Get a homing beacon too you can spare
uneven glen
For the link you sent me. Do I just throw random ships in fleet 4 for now so it will let me save?
@quasi stump ⬆️
quasi stump
Throw stuff like vanguard and amagi in there yeah
uneven glen
btw while I have not unlocked all of the hard nodes from 1-12 I do three a day for retrofit and core data. Right now going for cruiser ones for two ships
uneven glen
Get the maintenance manjuu from core data shop
it looks like both of these are purple correct?
uneven glen
yeah a little under three hundred away from being able to get one. I am at 268
uneven glen
just so you know - these are by far the worst things to buy with protocore
What should I be getting with those resources in protocore then?
quasi stump
The PR3 gear blueprints for your other 2 champagne guns...
Aka the gold BB gun you don't have enough of
uneven glen
these?
uneven glen
How do you then use them? I forget.
quasi stump
After you buy them
You can tap on them in your depot
To select which blueprint they become
uneven glen
gotcha so looking to convert to Prototype 406 correct?
uneven glen
well that only put me at 12 of 25
uneven glen
https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4RgBgZjAWCA0soXgsYBMawDZZrY4Dsuik...
@quasi stump Why no Guam in this?