Looking for help with building more fleets, as I currently only have one good fleet which I use for pretty much all the content I can handle.
#Fleet Building Help Needed
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Which stage of campaign are u on?
Chapter 13
haven't started it yet, i've mostly just been farming 12-4 for coins
been trying to get a solid AA team before tackling it
do u want to tackle it with what u have levelled already?
imo stay in 12 and raise a fleet that can tackle it easier and also can work on ch14 and potentially even 15 later
also how many UR bulin do you have?
Atm, 0, but I have 44k specialized core
and yeah, I think I'll stick in 12-4 for a while until I get some more units up and hopefully geared well
since Gear is the big issue for me atm given that I took a 4 year break from the game
I would so soyuz, unicorn, volga, guam, shimanto, laffeyII
alsace, amagi, hakuryuu, anchorage, eldridge, san diego for ch13
volga, eldridge and guam will help with ch14 and 15 as well so imo raise them
get 2 bulins and MLB guam
Alright
the flex in mob can be shimanto
also my current lab goals is getting Brest to Dev 30 and then getting either Kearsage or Nakhimov up to Dev 30
focus one season then move on to next
are u done with 4?
finish 5 and then move on to 7 imo
u will need some proper gear starting in ch14
have you been doing opsi?
4 has FS5 Anchorage and Hakuryuu, the other units are locked
and yeah, I've been doing it as much as I can
what about pr5?
keep focus on 5
finish brest (and maybe the gold ships along the way as well - prioritize brest) get your 2nd ply gun as well (first one from protocore shop)
then move on to 7
pr4 will get coining in january
might as well just do it then
if u want sure
btw get agir from pr4 and use her catchup at least
how close is agir to having 513 prints?
trying to work on a 3rd Wyvern for either Amagi CV or Shinano
hmmm looks good but we kinda want a second tenrai
did u get it from protocore shop?
dont use those on her
not yet, working on it but I haven't got a lot of BPs from ships that I don't need BP for, since i'm reserving for fate sim
ah
u can use the first 40 but not the other 2
use same season only
like Dr4 prints on agir
Dr5 prints on brest/plymouth
Dr6 on kear/hinden (DR6 can be used on brest if u want to finish her faster but imo still a waste just keep it for the same season)
how many can u buy?
21, and I'm at 24 atm
so I need 5 more
also the issue with getting Agir is that my ironblood vanguard is pretty weak, so I may not be able to farm 12-4 for EXP
ok imo swap back to pr4 focus
finish agir and get 5 tenrai prints (or however much u get by the time u finish agir)
then go to pr5 finish brest and 2nd plymouth gun then move on to pr7
that shouldnt be an issue tbh
show me who u have filter for kms vanguard
yeah
this should be easy
use eugen, z23, magdeburg
raise them to level 95-100
and farm 12-4 on safe
will be done in no time
mlb magdeburg
alright
I really need more gold bulins, I'm only at 2 atm. will soon become 1 after this
make sure u have green ACV and the farm will be easier
u can raise volga at the same time which will make sure they dont die
if u want u can use mainz instead of magdeburg
just give her some books
let me know if u struggle with 12-4
ping me and we will manage it
if not u can even do 12-1 or 12-2
should be easier
and overall pretty similar
alright, just gotta make sure I give them good gear
I assume I shouldn't use those combat data EXP packs?
cause I have 100 of them for series 4
but I've heard it's best to turn them into cores
analyze them for protocore
and u can use it to buy champy guns/tenrai prints
champy gun is the pr3 french BB gun
u want to have 2 if u have soyuz gun or 3 if u dont
I assume Soyuz gun is the gun from the event shop in Soyuz's event?
uhhh
hmmm
something's not right
to recap some of the things:
1- put focus on pr4 in academy (focus not catchup but also use catchup if u still have it)
2- get agir and raise her as well to level 120
3- get 5 tenrai prints at least before u move on to pr5
4- u really need a stopper CV so getting AvP after agir is also a good idea
5- use spare coin on FdG (buy 2-6 blueprints per day for her and get her to dev30 at least)
6- raise volga, eldridge, shimanto and soyuz to level 120, soyuz to 125
7- Do opsi for good gear
it could be on someone
make sure u have equipped toggle on
in depot
or maybe your filters are wrong?
I don't see it at all
I'm looking at guns for Soyuz
did i really forget to pick it up
u dont have champy gun either
it is fine u can get it when it reruns
it is a sidegrade of champy gun anyway
which one is the champy gun?
so use the protocore to buy 3 champy guns
not tenrai?
tenrai will take time and u can buy it at any point
champy prints u can only buy 20 per month and u need 75 total
actually check depot first
see if u can craft champy gun
u might have some prints from research anyway
well no problem buy 20 each month until u can craft 3
yes
yeah but it needs a lot of materials
if u have spare u can craft it there sure
usually cheaper from protocore
I should be able to, just need more of the electric components
but it takes 4 months 
save those for the planes
imo craft champy in protoshop
got it
300 protocore each month
shouldnt be too hard to get
and then after u get 75 prints u can get the tenrai
so just to make sure, getting this is what I want, right?
yes
and read this 🙏
this is your priority for now
once u raise those ships u can do ch13 easily
alright
and if u get good gear in the meantime from opsi and research u can do ch14 easily as well
also huh, I think I know why i couldn't find it. this says triple so I was looking for guns that start with triple
but prototype is infront of it
so I can make 1 champy gun
atm it's just fleet 2, but I've been trying to make other fleets too for backup
ok lets improve them a bit
alright
for BB use alsace, soyuz, NJ, guam, helena, plymouth
for CV use hakuryuu, amagi, shinano, laffeyii, kazagumo (u can use shimakaze until u raise her), eldridge
for mob u can use your best BB that is still unused (maybe hood?), unicorn, volga, anchorage, shimakaze (can use someone else if u use her in CV fleet), san diego
and last fleet put UvH, indep,vanguard, kron, unzen, flex
last fleet is only there for crossfleet and it wont do anything
make sure u do daily missions, explore all regions, do all the bosses and strongholds and buy the good things from the shops
let me know if anything is unclear 
she is not MLB so no
can use an shan if u also raise her
but u have so many ships to raise
just use anyone that is 120 or 125 already
regular Laffey it is
put 2 gold high level cats in mob
fill the rest with random cats
put u37, u96, and u81 in sub fleet
u can read the cat guide later to understand it better
alright
I feel like it will be too much info
just do /cats in #bot-spam
ok 2 points left
tell me your perma pity
ran with this for now
312/400
ok that is good
might get Shinano with the next pity to get her MLB
then get 2 UR bulins for guam
yeah, I did that earlier
and yes use pity for shinano to MLB
she's MLB now
or MLB mogador
kron, uvh, and vanguard are not really that worth imo
vanguard is worth but we are getting musashi rerun soonish so u might not end up needing her much
that is fine
it is just a general idea
Yeah, I'm definitely going for Musashi
up to you when u do it
i like her a lot
not like u are using uznen anywhere atm
priority is doing opsi, research and raising good ships in 12-4
alright
and last point is also when u get enough gold bulins and spare coins u can start raising a sub fleet
u37, u96 and u81 are great
subs are a pain in the ass to raise
if u have spare slots in dorm floor 1 then stick them in there and forget about them for now 
I don't atm
threw together this for my KMS fleet, felt like it was a good idea to finally start using Perseus
once they're all at least level 100, I'll take them to 12-4
use volga, soyuz and amagi
u want to raise them to 125 anyway
volga can stay 120 for now
once they are capped u can take them out and raise other ships
that's left to right, right? at least i'd assume so
independence is a good option, shinano can also go to 125 since u already uncapped her
yeah put soyuz middle
put magdeburg in the middle for now
level 70 will die fast otherwise
she might still die tbh
if she dies use a few books on her
btw agir first cdc is main ships
have u finshed that already?
i don't know what that means
her xp grind
this
is 2 part
ah
yep
Huh.
she is a CB (large cruiser)
the more you know ig
can use FdG, UvH and someone else
ok that's good
they are very weak so use eldridge and 2 good frontlines to carry them
got much better IB backline
maybe I could go mostly tanks on the front?
with the backline doing all the damage
bismarck UvH and FdG
u need a very strong frontline otherwise they will all die since triple BB vs planes is hell
they wont do dmg. UvH is LB1 
ahh, kek
and FdG is also missing a whole gun mount since she is not dev30
oof
maybe eldridge, shimanto and yuudachi
once u finish her part1 change it back to the other fleet
with volga, soyuz, amagi, and the KMS frontline
alright
and after agir try and get AvP as well so u will have to switch back to the FdG fleet again 
if the fleet struggles let me know
need to make sure everyone is geared up first
we can use a few tricks to make it work hopefully
yeah give them different times on their strikes (stagger them)
use different guns and the UR table
u want mob fleet to fire after each other not together
so they dont waste dmg
hmmmm, that whole timing thing sounds like something too complicated for me to grasp atm 😓
it is pretty easy
give FdG the twin UR gun and give her the UR radar
then give bismarck the UR mk7
give UvH the champy gun u crafted
and give bismarck a yellow radar (the ones for BB)
ta da
now they all fire at different times 
Roomba?
ah, that
no DD/CL gun and AA needed for the backline? 
what about the DD/CL gun?
got it
but that is what ECTL recommends
your backline will be utterly useless anyway so hopefully the vanguard carries
hmmm, the order of that. Is that showing that Ulrich is the Flagship? Or is it Friedrich
put soyuz amagi and haku in boss fleet, their crossfleet will help and might give u enough ACV to help the mob live
worst comes to worst I break out what I normally use for the vanguard. Anchorage, Shimakaze and Laffey II 
nah wont be needed hopefully
as long as the map is safe threat
let me know how it goes
also hmmm, I only have one quadruple Magnetic torp
who should get it?
yuudachi
alright
what should I do with the torp that is on Yuudachi in this?
since I have that too
use it on her
oh, ok
i meant this torp, I only have one of these. I was wondering if it should go on Eldridge or Shimanto
alright
so this is what I'm going for i assume
yes
maybe put eldridge in the middle for now
i forgot she is level 90
what planes did u give amagi and haku?
use guam instead of anchorage
she has a crossfleet that could be useful
guess we pray
i hope they live 
they have 6 fights
the last one will be difficult since 0 ammo

not necessarily but we will see
we can always make it better
like i said the backline is absolute trash right now 
Vanguard is holding up quite well
yeah eldridge is cracked
current damages after 4 battles
last battle time
the boss got ripped to shreds
dont waste cog chips on yuudachi imo
and like i said when part 1 is done rotate the fleet
Yeah
use the other one from before with the KMS vanguard
and u use this again for AvP
alright good luck 
Thanks
also I had a thought. For AVP, can't I just get that one pack that allows you to get instant dev 30 of a PR ship for a specific season? 🤔
could save me a bunch of time
unless I want to do it normally for more prints
It is not worth at all
And I say that as someone who bought 3 of them lol
If u want to spend
Buy the cruise pass
Or buy gems and buy dockspace
Or skins and oath rings
F2p gems go into 3rd dorm slot
Dorm 2nd floor
And dock space
Got it
I already have all 6 dorm slots anyway + 2nd floor 
don't think I need any more dock space for now, so I'll save incase some skins arrive that I want
Yeah that is fine
Btw, since Aquila is now in the special pool, should I be trying to get her with my daily special pull? I'm tempted to try but there's Musashi coming up soon, + some SR ships that I want
daily pull on special is not worth imo
stay on light
aquila can drop if u pull on future events that share pool with special pool
or u can designate her rate up on wishing well in May-25
ahhh, true
Just got the 1.2m for Agir, can you give me the list of gear I want on my IB Vanguard so I can set that up?
One second
also wow that was fast 
is part 2 even open?
u might have to wait 2 days before u go all in on farming
what was the fleet?
soyuz amagi volga and who was the vanguard?
This for the vanguard
i'll make sure they're all level 100 before I tackle 12-4 with them when the mission unlocks
i also got Eugen and Z23 their auguments too, so that should help
oh... i would have advised against that but it is fine lol
not all augments are worth crafting
but those 2 are fine i guess
o
So, is the team with the IB Vanguard going to be fighting all the enemies? Or just the mob fleets
considering you are suggesting the backline that you gave me, I might be able to handle the boss too if my vanguard doesn't take too much damage
this should work
if they can do boss as well go for it
it is probably doable tbh with soyuz and amagi carrying
hmmmm, question. With how it's ordered, would it before from left to right, Z23, Magdeburg and then Eugen?
I thought Eugen would be on the far left for tanking
unless I forgot how positioning works
ahhh, got it
and magdeburg in middle cause her level is low
z23 goes in middle when magdeburg catches up
got it
and like i said dont spend all your oil yet
make sure part 2 is open before u go ham 
gonna try and fish for another quad magnetic torp from iron blood boxes
and yeah, I'll wait a bit
use w.e u have it is fine
besides, maybe I should use the oil in my storage one day
but if u have packs go for it 
think I have 160k in there 
well... it doesnt hurt to have some stored there
Yeah
but 160k is a bit much 
i have the same. planning on farming HVARcat during yorktown 2 rerun
good anti light armor rocket plane
farmable during yorktown II event
yeah morale tends to be an issue if u farm 1.2 mill xp in one day 
ah, the hellcat?
this one
yes
i am just mentioning it as an example of sth to keep some oil in storage for
we might get another event with a similar good gear worth farming
I might do some farming for that then if it's good to have more then 1 copy of it, since this'll be my first time experiencing Yorktown II's event
the event comes with 1 free copy
u can try and get 2 more
but it is a ways off
so dw about it yet
u have more urgent things to work on
Yeah, I agree
oh btw, what should I do with Perseus? I feel like I should work on her too. She could replace Volga in my operation siren fleet, unless she could be better off elsewhere
Percy is not used that much these days with uniforn retro being a thing
Stacking too many preloads is not good
Although i see some ppl use her in opsi mobbing I believe instead of unicorn
I think it is faster and opsi mobbing is easy anyway
Raise her if u want but u will get more mileage out of volga

Welp, the 2.4m exp mission is open now
and I definitely feel like I need to level Eugen up more
she's barely surviving the boss
change of plans, i'll put the fleet on escort and use my stronger fleet for boss
less EXP but i don't have to worry about losing ships
both works 
I think I'll stick with all enemies, now that Eugen is 120
need to level up Magdeburg now xD
well ideally now u take eugen out and put someone else in
but u can just finish agir with eugen i guess if no better option 

btw, after I'm one getting Agir and AvP, what else is there for me to do? Other than getting them to dev 30 (and eventually fate sim 5 i think)
just wondering if it's something I could work on now
The rest of pr4
Or u can work on good ships for campaign later stages and operation siren
I think I recommended some at the start of the thread
looks like you said this
yeah that was for research focus tbh
do this
this is the later recommendation
ahhh

I'll start AvP research tomorrow when I wake up, so new stages unlock in the morning for me and not at like 10 PM like it did with Agir
Can I use Agir at Dev 25? I should be able to get her to that if I also use 40 PR/DR4 BP I have
Yeah she is fine at dev25
posted this a bit late, but I got her
oh btw, I have enough prototype cores to get the second Tenrai, but I'm not sure if I should wait since I'm not sure if I'll be able to get the cores I need for the next set of prototype blueprints for the champy gun
what do you think I should do?
If u are still focusing pr4 in research u can wait
Been a little bit since I updated, but August is now Dev 30, and Agir can get to Dev 26 with 220/300 EXP
good job 
When should I stop doing PR4 and more on to PR5 btw? Should it be when I get Agir to Dev 30?
agir dev30, haku fs5 and 2nd tenrai
then move on
if u get 2nd tenrai and haku is far from fs5 u can skip that and go pr5 as well
Haku's already FS5
As for second Tenrai, I'll see how many BP's I'll have to buy once I get Agir to dev 30. I'll probably save the rest of my Rainbow PR blueprints since I don't have any more that go to just PR4, only PR5, 6 and 7
Plymouth is Dev 30 already, unless I should still convert them into her BP for when she gets fate sim instead of going for Dev 30 Brest
I only have 2 PR5 ships unlocked, Plymouth and Brest
if by finish you mean unlock every ship in that season, then I have yet to do that with any PR season yet 
4 is closest though, just need to unlock Marco Polo
no finish usually means having enough BP for dev30 and FS5 if they have FS
gimme a sec to hop on PC and I'll quickly share some screenshots
unlock them whenever u want that is fine
yeah that would be better
I normally play on phone but I got it on PC for taking screenshots + if my phone starts playing up for whatever reason
fair enough 
looks very good but a bit mixed focus 
finish agir, unlock marco asap so u can buy 10 BP for her everyday
if u finish marco agir will finish faster
then do 5 and get brest dev30
after that u can move on to 7
Yeah, comes with not really knowing what to do
the gold ships dont matter very much in pr5
unlocking Harbin may be a bit of a issue tbh
use catchup on harbin
unlocking harbin is not a prio anyway
if u have spare spec core to retrofit the ddg
u can get her when farming your DDG
but for now ignore her
your academy focus is on 4 right?
I should probably put some of my dragon empery ships in the dorm
and yeah, it is
Yat Sen i'll definitely level up later, heard she's really good
if u have Tai Yuan retrofit item u can use her and an shan + another CN ship to grind harbin
she is a decent tank
yat sen + 2 DDG will be an easy farm for harbin
but not the highest prio right now
imo get marco done
got it, I'll swap to developing her
after that u can unlock some of the earlier season ships
because u can use coin on them as well
as for buying blueprints, my coins aren't that high
that is fine
only at 16.8k now, and I'm trying to save some for future banners
alright, just reequiped my ironblood main fleet that you gave me for august. Time to farm some more
ok yeah, don't do boss fleet with this team 
Yuudachi is on life support
updating this since I feel like it's pretty significant
she is a very good pull congrats 
but I think this thread is old enough that it is better to make a new one if u want more advice tbh
I am not available rn but I am sure someone else can help 
Ahhh, got it. I'll make a new thread if I need more advice once I finish completing the list you've given me. Thanks so much for all the help you've given me so far
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