#Fleet Building Help Needed

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daring fjord
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Looking for help with building more fleets, as I currently only have one good fleet which I use for pretty much all the content I can handle.

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Fleet Building Help Needed

ancient niche
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Which stage of campaign are u on?

daring fjord
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Chapter 13

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haven't started it yet, i've mostly just been farming 12-4 for coins

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been trying to get a solid AA team before tackling it

ancient niche
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do u want to tackle it with what u have levelled already?

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imo stay in 12 and raise a fleet that can tackle it easier and also can work on ch14 and potentially even 15 later

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also how many UR bulin do you have?

daring fjord
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Atm, 0, but I have 44k specialized core

daring fjord
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since Gear is the big issue for me atm given that I took a 4 year break from the game

ancient niche
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I would so soyuz, unicorn, volga, guam, shimanto, laffeyII

alsace, amagi, hakuryuu, anchorage, eldridge, san diego for ch13

volga, eldridge and guam will help with ch14 and 15 as well so imo raise them

ancient niche
daring fjord
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Alright

ancient niche
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the flex in mob can be shimanto

daring fjord
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also my current lab goals is getting Brest to Dev 30 and then getting either Kearsage or Nakhimov up to Dev 30

ancient niche
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focus one season then move on to next

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are u done with 4?

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finish 5 and then move on to 7 imo

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u will need some proper gear starting in ch14

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have you been doing opsi?

daring fjord
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4 has FS5 Anchorage and Hakuryuu, the other units are locked

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and yeah, I've been doing it as much as I can

ancient niche
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what about pr5?

daring fjord
ancient niche
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keep focus on 5
finish brest (and maybe the gold ships along the way as well - prioritize brest) get your 2nd ply gun as well (first one from protocore shop)
then move on to 7
pr4 will get coining in january
might as well just do it then

daring fjord
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alright

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should I share my current UR gear?

ancient niche
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if u want sure

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btw get agir from pr4 and use her catchup at least

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how close is agir to having 513 prints?

daring fjord
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trying to work on a 3rd Wyvern for either Amagi CV or Shinano

ancient niche
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hmmm looks good but we kinda want a second tenrai

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did u get it from protocore shop?

ancient niche
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dont use those on her

daring fjord
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ah

ancient niche
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u can use the first 40 but not the other 2

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use same season only
like Dr4 prints on agir
Dr5 prints on brest/plymouth
Dr6 on kear/hinden (DR6 can be used on brest if u want to finish her faster but imo still a waste just keep it for the same season)

daring fjord
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21, and I'm at 24 atm

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so I need 5 more

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also the issue with getting Agir is that my ironblood vanguard is pretty weak, so I may not be able to farm 12-4 for EXP

ancient niche
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ok imo swap back to pr4 focus
finish agir and get 5 tenrai prints (or however much u get by the time u finish agir)
then go to pr5 finish brest and 2nd plymouth gun then move on to pr7

ancient niche
daring fjord
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also idk why there's still no PR/DR focus system for PR4 yet

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they skipped a season

ancient niche
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wdym?

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the catchup>

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?

daring fjord
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yeah

ancient niche
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there is

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u must have used it

daring fjord
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oh, probably for Hakuryuu

ancient niche
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this should be easy
use eugen, z23, magdeburg
raise them to level 95-100

and farm 12-4 on safe

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will be done in no time

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mlb magdeburg

daring fjord
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alright

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I really need more gold bulins, I'm only at 2 atm. will soon become 1 after this

ancient niche
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make sure u have green ACV and the farm will be easier
u can raise volga at the same time which will make sure they dont die

ancient niche
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just give her some books

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let me know if u struggle with 12-4
ping me and we will manage it

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if not u can even do 12-1 or 12-2

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should be easier

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and overall pretty similar

daring fjord
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alright, just gotta make sure I give them good gear

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I assume I shouldn't use those combat data EXP packs?

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cause I have 100 of them for series 4

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but I've heard it's best to turn them into cores

ancient niche
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and u can use it to buy champy guns/tenrai prints

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champy gun is the pr3 french BB gun

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u want to have 2 if u have soyuz gun or 3 if u dont

daring fjord
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I assume Soyuz gun is the gun from the event shop in Soyuz's event?

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uhhh

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hmmm

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something's not right

ancient niche
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to recap some of the things:

1- put focus on pr4 in academy (focus not catchup but also use catchup if u still have it)
2- get agir and raise her as well to level 120
3- get 5 tenrai prints at least before u move on to pr5
4- u really need a stopper CV so getting AvP after agir is also a good idea
5- use spare coin on FdG (buy 2-6 blueprints per day for her and get her to dev30 at least)
6- raise volga, eldridge, shimanto and soyuz to level 120, soyuz to 125
7- Do opsi for good gear

daring fjord
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did I not get the gun or something during her rerun

ancient niche
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it could be on someone

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make sure u have equipped toggle on

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in depot

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or maybe your filters are wrong?

daring fjord
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I don't see it at all

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I'm looking at guns for Soyuz

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did i really forget to pick it up

ancient niche
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u dont have champy gun either

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it is fine u can get it when it reruns

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it is a sidegrade of champy gun anyway

daring fjord
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which one is the champy gun?

ancient niche
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so use the protocore to buy 3 champy guns

daring fjord
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not tenrai?

ancient niche
ancient niche
# daring fjord not tenrai?

tenrai will take time and u can buy it at any point
champy prints u can only buy 20 per month and u need 75 total

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actually check depot first

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see if u can craft champy gun

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u might have some prints from research anyway

daring fjord
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i don't think I can

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ooof

ancient niche
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well no problem buy 20 each month until u can craft 3

daring fjord
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so buy this?

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i think champy gun is series 3

ancient niche
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yes

daring fjord
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lemme check gear lab

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it says I can craft it there

ancient niche
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yeah but it needs a lot of materials

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if u have spare u can craft it there sure

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usually cheaper from protocore

daring fjord
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I should be able to, just need more of the electric components

ancient niche
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but it takes 4 months PortDoll

ancient niche
daring fjord
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ahhh

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alright

ancient niche
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imo craft champy in protoshop

daring fjord
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got it

ancient niche
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300 protocore each month

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shouldnt be too hard to get

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and then after u get 75 prints u can get the tenrai

daring fjord
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so just to make sure, getting this is what I want, right?

ancient niche
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yes

ancient niche
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this is your priority for now

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once u raise those ships u can do ch13 easily

daring fjord
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alright

ancient niche
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and if u get good gear in the meantime from opsi and research u can do ch14 easily as well

daring fjord
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but prototype is infront of it

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so I can make 1 champy gun

ancient niche
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nice

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that makes it easier

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u still want 3

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what fleets are u using in opsi?

daring fjord
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atm it's just fleet 2, but I've been trying to make other fleets too for backup

ancient niche
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ok lets improve them a bit

daring fjord
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alright

ancient niche
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for BB use alsace, soyuz, NJ, guam, helena, plymouth

for CV use hakuryuu, amagi, shinano, laffeyii, kazagumo (u can use shimakaze until u raise her), eldridge

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for mob u can use your best BB that is still unused (maybe hood?), unicorn, volga, anchorage, shimakaze (can use someone else if u use her in CV fleet), san diego

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and last fleet put UvH, indep,vanguard, kron, unzen, flex

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last fleet is only there for crossfleet and it wont do anything

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make sure u do daily missions, explore all regions, do all the bosses and strongholds and buy the good things from the shops

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let me know if anything is unclear PrinzPat

daring fjord
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would Mogador work for mob fleet?

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for the middle slot

ancient niche
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she is not MLB so no

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can use an shan if u also raise her

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but u have so many ships to raise

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just use anyone that is 120 or 125 already

daring fjord
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regular Laffey it is

ancient niche
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how close are u to another perma pity?

daring fjord
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not sure, I'll check after this

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not really sure what to do with the cats tbh

ancient niche
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put 2 gold high level cats in mob

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fill the rest with random cats

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put u37, u96, and u81 in sub fleet

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u can read the cat guide later to understand it better

daring fjord
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alright

ancient niche
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I feel like it will be too much info

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just do /cats in #bot-spam

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ok 2 points left

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tell me your perma pity

daring fjord
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ran with this for now

daring fjord
ancient niche
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ok that is good

daring fjord
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might get Shinano with the next pity to get her MLB

ancient niche
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then get 2 UR bulins for guam

daring fjord
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yeah, I did that earlier

ancient niche
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and yes use pity for shinano to MLB

daring fjord
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she's MLB now

ancient niche
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then get unzen MLB

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and imo save after that

daring fjord
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alright

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hmmm

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i may not have enough gold coins to MLB Unzen

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i am poor lol

ancient niche
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or MLB mogador

kron, uvh, and vanguard are not really that worth imo
vanguard is worth but we are getting musashi rerun soonish so u might not end up needing her much

ancient niche
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it is just a general idea

daring fjord
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Yeah, I'm definitely going for Musashi

ancient niche
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up to you when u do it

daring fjord
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i like her a lot

ancient niche
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not like u are using uznen anywhere atm

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priority is doing opsi, research and raising good ships in 12-4

daring fjord
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alright

ancient niche
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and last point is also when u get enough gold bulins and spare coins u can start raising a sub fleet

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u37, u96 and u81 are great

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subs are a pain in the ass to raise

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if u have spare slots in dorm floor 1 then stick them in there and forget about them for now ChampyXD

daring fjord
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I don't atm

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threw together this for my KMS fleet, felt like it was a good idea to finally start using Perseus

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once they're all at least level 100, I'll take them to 12-4

ancient niche
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use volga, soyuz and amagi

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u want to raise them to 125 anyway

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volga can stay 120 for now

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once they are capped u can take them out and raise other ships

daring fjord
ancient niche
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independence is a good option, shinano can also go to 125 since u already uncapped her

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yeah put soyuz middle

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put magdeburg in the middle for now

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level 70 will die fast otherwise

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she might still die tbh

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if she dies use a few books on her

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btw agir first cdc is main ships

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have u finshed that already?

daring fjord
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i don't know what that means

ancient niche
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her xp grind

daring fjord
ancient niche
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is 2 part

daring fjord
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ah

ancient niche
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part 1 needs main ships

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not vanguard ships

daring fjord
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oh

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really?

ancient niche
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yep

daring fjord
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Huh.

ancient niche
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she is a CB (large cruiser)

daring fjord
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the more you know ig

ancient niche
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can use FdG, UvH and someone else

daring fjord
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ok that's good

ancient niche
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they are very weak so use eldridge and 2 good frontlines to carry them

daring fjord
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got much better IB backline

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maybe I could go mostly tanks on the front?

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with the backline doing all the damage

ancient niche
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bismarck UvH and FdG
u need a very strong frontline otherwise they will all die since triple BB vs planes is hell

ancient niche
daring fjord
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ahh, kek

ancient niche
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and FdG is also missing a whole gun mount since she is not dev30

daring fjord
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oof

ancient niche
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maybe eldridge, shimanto and yuudachi

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once u finish her part1 change it back to the other fleet
with volga, soyuz, amagi, and the KMS frontline

daring fjord
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alright

ancient niche
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and after agir try and get AvP as well so u will have to switch back to the FdG fleet again ChampyXD

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if the fleet struggles let me know

daring fjord
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need to make sure everyone is geared up first

ancient niche
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we can use a few tricks to make it work hopefully

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yeah give them different times on their strikes (stagger them)
use different guns and the UR table

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u want mob fleet to fire after each other not together

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so they dont waste dmg

daring fjord
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hmmmm, that whole timing thing sounds like something too complicated for me to grasp atm 😓

ancient niche
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it is pretty easy

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give FdG the twin UR gun and give her the UR radar

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then give bismarck the UR mk7

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give UvH the champy gun u crafted

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and give bismarck a yellow radar (the ones for BB)

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ta da

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now they all fire at different times Glowow

daring fjord
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also bleh, I really need more sextuple bofors

ancient niche
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like this

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use all roomba for ch12

daring fjord
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Roomba?

ancient niche
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this AA

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it looks like a roomba ChampyXD

daring fjord
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ah, that

ancient niche
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this is your vanguard

daring fjord
ancient niche
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give them default

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i was lazy ChampyXD

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STAAG for all of them

daring fjord
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what about the DD/CL gun?

ancient niche
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like this

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bismarck is weird so idk if her aux is correct ChampyXD

daring fjord
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got it

ancient niche
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but that is what ECTL recommends

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your backline will be utterly useless anyway so hopefully the vanguard carries

daring fjord
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hmmm, the order of that. Is that showing that Ulrich is the Flagship? Or is it Friedrich

ancient niche
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put soyuz amagi and haku in boss fleet, their crossfleet will help and might give u enough ACV to help the mob live

daring fjord
ancient niche
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nah wont be needed hopefully

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as long as the map is safe threat

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let me know how it goes

daring fjord
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alright

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still putting gear together xD

daring fjord
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who should get it?

ancient niche
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yuudachi

daring fjord
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alright

daring fjord
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since I have that too

ancient niche
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use it on her

daring fjord
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oh, ok

ancient niche
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then give quad to either one shimanto or eldridge

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doenst matter much tbh

daring fjord
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i meant this torp, I only have one of these. I was wondering if it should go on Eldridge or Shimanto

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alright

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so this is what I'm going for i assume

ancient niche
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yes
maybe put eldridge in the middle for now

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i forgot she is level 90

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what planes did u give amagi and haku?

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use guam instead of anchorage
she has a crossfleet that could be useful

daring fjord
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oh

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welp

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too late

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XD

ancient niche
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and she needs xp for level 125 anyway

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oh lol

daring fjord
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guess we pray

ancient niche
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i hope they live KievPray

daring fjord
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just took out a 3 triangle battleship

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that's promising

ancient niche
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they have 6 fights
the last one will be difficult since 0 ammo

daring fjord
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True

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inb4 i get a 3 triangle carrier node

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it'll be over if that happens

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xD

ancient niche
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not necessarily but we will see

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we can always make it better

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like i said the backline is absolute trash right now BiskoLUL

daring fjord
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Vanguard is holding up quite well

ancient niche
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yeah eldridge is cracked

daring fjord
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current damages after 4 battles

ancient niche
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looks promising KievPray

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u can switch formation to circle

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will give better AA

daring fjord
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last battle time

ancient niche
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that was fast

daring fjord
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they survived

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crossfleet was probably clutch

ancient niche
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then should get agir in no time

daring fjord
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the boss got ripped to shreds

ancient niche
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dont waste cog chips on yuudachi imo

daring fjord
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alright

ancient niche
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use it on FdG, eldridge and shimanto

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bisko, UvH and yuudachi can suck it ChampyXD

daring fjord
ancient niche
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and like i said when part 1 is done rotate the fleet

daring fjord
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Yeah

ancient niche
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use the other one from before with the KMS vanguard

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and u use this again for AvP

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alright good luck MainzHeart

daring fjord
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Thanks

daring fjord
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also I had a thought. For AVP, can't I just get that one pack that allows you to get instant dev 30 of a PR ship for a specific season? 🤔

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could save me a bunch of time

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unless I want to do it normally for more prints

ancient niche
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It is not worth at all

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And I say that as someone who bought 3 of them lol

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If u want to spend
Buy the cruise pass
Or buy gems and buy dockspace
Or skins and oath rings

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F2p gems go into 3rd dorm slot
Dorm 2nd floor
And dock space

daring fjord
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Got it

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I already have all 6 dorm slots anyway + 2nd floor CheshireXD

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don't think I need any more dock space for now, so I'll save incase some skins arrive that I want

ancient niche
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Yeah that is fine

daring fjord
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Btw, since Aquila is now in the special pool, should I be trying to get her with my daily special pull? I'm tempted to try but there's Musashi coming up soon, + some SR ships that I want

ancient niche
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daily pull on special is not worth imo
stay on light
aquila can drop if u pull on future events that share pool with special pool

or u can designate her rate up on wishing well in May-25

daring fjord
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ahhh, true

daring fjord
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Just got the 1.2m for Agir, can you give me the list of gear I want on my IB Vanguard so I can set that up?

ancient niche
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One second

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also wow that was fast ChampyXD

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is part 2 even open?

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u might have to wait 2 days before u go all in on farming

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what was the fleet?

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soyuz amagi volga and who was the vanguard?

daring fjord
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i'll make sure they're all level 100 before I tackle 12-4 with them when the mission unlocks

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i also got Eugen and Z23 their auguments too, so that should help

ancient niche
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oh... i would have advised against that but it is fine lol

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not all augments are worth crafting

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but those 2 are fine i guess

daring fjord
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o

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So, is the team with the IB Vanguard going to be fighting all the enemies? Or just the mob fleets

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considering you are suggesting the backline that you gave me, I might be able to handle the boss too if my vanguard doesn't take too much damage

ancient niche
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this should work

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if they can do boss as well go for it

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it is probably doable tbh with soyuz and amagi carrying

daring fjord
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hmmmm, question. With how it's ordered, would it before from left to right, Z23, Magdeburg and then Eugen?

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I thought Eugen would be on the far left for tanking

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unless I forgot how positioning works

ancient niche
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yeah that tool has them numbered like that

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eugen is far left

daring fjord
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ahhh, got it

ancient niche
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and magdeburg in middle cause her level is low

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z23 goes in middle when magdeburg catches up

daring fjord
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got it

ancient niche
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and like i said dont spend all your oil yet

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make sure part 2 is open before u go ham NJ_XD

daring fjord
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gonna try and fish for another quad magnetic torp from iron blood boxes

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and yeah, I'll wait a bit

ancient niche
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use w.e u have it is fine

daring fjord
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besides, maybe I should use the oil in my storage one day

ancient niche
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but if u have packs go for it KievPray

daring fjord
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think I have 160k in there CheshireXD

ancient niche
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well... it doesnt hurt to have some stored there

daring fjord
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Yeah

ancient niche
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but 160k is a bit much ChampyXD

daring fjord
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they're just for emergencies

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Lol

ancient niche
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i have the same. planning on farming HVARcat during yorktown 2 rerun

daring fjord
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tbh the big issue is Morale

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what's the Hvarcat?

ancient niche
ancient niche
daring fjord
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this one

ancient niche
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yes

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i am just mentioning it as an example of sth to keep some oil in storage for

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we might get another event with a similar good gear worth farming

daring fjord
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I might do some farming for that then if it's good to have more then 1 copy of it, since this'll be my first time experiencing Yorktown II's event

ancient niche
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the event comes with 1 free copy

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u can try and get 2 more

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but it is a ways off

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so dw about it yet

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u have more urgent things to work on

daring fjord
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Yeah, I agree

daring fjord
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oh btw, what should I do with Perseus? I feel like I should work on her too. She could replace Volga in my operation siren fleet, unless she could be better off elsewhere

ancient niche
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Percy is not used that much these days with uniforn retro being a thing

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Stacking too many preloads is not good

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Although i see some ppl use her in opsi mobbing I believe instead of unicorn
I think it is faster and opsi mobbing is easy anyway

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Raise her if u want but u will get more mileage out of volga

daring fjord
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ahhh, alright

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i'll keep using Volga then

ancient niche
daring fjord
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Welp, the 2.4m exp mission is open now

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and I definitely feel like I need to level Eugen up more

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she's barely surviving the boss

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change of plans, i'll put the fleet on escort and use my stronger fleet for boss

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less EXP but i don't have to worry about losing ships

ancient niche
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both works Laffey_Adorable_Thumbs_Up

daring fjord
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I think I'll stick with all enemies, now that Eugen is 120

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need to level up Magdeburg now xD

ancient niche
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well ideally now u take eugen out and put someone else in

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but u can just finish agir with eugen i guess if no better option PortDoll

daring fjord
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Combat data collection 2 is finally done

ancient niche
daring fjord
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btw, after I'm one getting Agir and AvP, what else is there for me to do? Other than getting them to dev 30 (and eventually fate sim 5 i think)

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just wondering if it's something I could work on now

ancient niche
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The rest of pr4

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Or u can work on good ships for campaign later stages and operation siren

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I think I recommended some at the start of the thread

ancient niche
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yeah that was for research focus tbh

ancient niche
daring fjord
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ahhh

daring fjord
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I'll start AvP research tomorrow when I wake up, so new stages unlock in the morning for me and not at like 10 PM like it did with Agir

ancient niche
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good pla

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plan*

daring fjord
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Can I use Agir at Dev 25? I should be able to get her to that if I also use 40 PR/DR4 BP I have

ancient niche
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Yeah she is fine at dev25

daring fjord
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posted this a bit late, but I got her

daring fjord
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oh btw, I have enough prototype cores to get the second Tenrai, but I'm not sure if I should wait since I'm not sure if I'll be able to get the cores I need for the next set of prototype blueprints for the champy gun

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what do you think I should do?

ancient niche
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If u are still focusing pr4 in research u can wait

daring fjord
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Been a little bit since I updated, but August is now Dev 30, and Agir can get to Dev 26 with 220/300 EXP

ancient niche
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good job Laffey_Adorable_Thumbs_Up

daring fjord
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When should I stop doing PR4 and more on to PR5 btw? Should it be when I get Agir to Dev 30?

ancient niche
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agir dev30, haku fs5 and 2nd tenrai

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then move on

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if u get 2nd tenrai and haku is far from fs5 u can skip that and go pr5 as well

daring fjord
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Haku's already FS5

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As for second Tenrai, I'll see how many BP's I'll have to buy once I get Agir to dev 30. I'll probably save the rest of my Rainbow PR blueprints since I don't have any more that go to just PR4, only PR5, 6 and 7

ancient niche
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yeah save those for their own specific seasons

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pr5 imo use all on plymouth

daring fjord
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Plymouth is Dev 30 already, unless I should still convert them into her BP for when she gets fate sim instead of going for Dev 30 Brest

ancient niche
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oh no using them on brest is fine

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did u finish pr5 before pr4 NagaThonk

daring fjord
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I only have 2 PR5 ships unlocked, Plymouth and Brest

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if by finish you mean unlock every ship in that season, then I have yet to do that with any PR season yet GWshinodunHaaha

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4 is closest though, just need to unlock Marco Polo

ancient niche
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no finish usually means having enough BP for dev30 and FS5 if they have FS

daring fjord
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Ahhh

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then no, I haven't finished any seasons yet

ancient niche
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then usually u would do 4 > 5 > 6/7

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finish 4 then move on to 5 then 7 imo

daring fjord
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gimme a sec to hop on PC and I'll quickly share some screenshots

ancient niche
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unlock them whenever u want that is fine

ancient niche
daring fjord
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I normally play on phone but I got it on PC for taking screenshots + if my phone starts playing up for whatever reason

ancient niche
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fair enough NapoliPat

daring fjord
ancient niche
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looks very good but a bit mixed focus PrinzPat

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finish agir, unlock marco asap so u can buy 10 BP for her everyday

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if u finish marco agir will finish faster

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then do 5 and get brest dev30

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after that u can move on to 7

daring fjord
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Yeah, comes with not really knowing what to do

ancient niche
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the gold ships dont matter very much in pr5

daring fjord
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unlocking Harbin may be a bit of a issue tbh

ancient niche
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use catchup on harbin

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unlocking harbin is not a prio anyway

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if u have spare spec core to retrofit the ddg

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u can get her when farming your DDG

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but for now ignore her

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your academy focus is on 4 right?

daring fjord
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I should probably put some of my dragon empery ships in the dorm

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and yeah, it is

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Yat Sen i'll definitely level up later, heard she's really good

ancient niche
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if u have Tai Yuan retrofit item u can use her and an shan + another CN ship to grind harbin

ancient niche
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yat sen + 2 DDG will be an easy farm for harbin

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but not the highest prio right now

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imo get marco done

daring fjord
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got it, I'll swap to developing her

ancient niche
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after that u can unlock some of the earlier season ships

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because u can use coin on them as well

daring fjord
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as for buying blueprints, my coins aren't that high

ancient niche
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that is fine

daring fjord
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only at 16.8k now, and I'm trying to save some for future banners

ancient niche
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use as much as u can

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10 gold BP per day and 6 DR BP per day is easy

daring fjord
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alright, just reequiped my ironblood main fleet that you gave me for august. Time to farm some more

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ok yeah, don't do boss fleet with this team OhNo

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Yuudachi is on life support

daring fjord
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updating this since I feel like it's pretty significant

ancient niche
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she is a very good pull congrats Glowow
but I think this thread is old enough that it is better to make a new one if u want more advice tbh
I am not available rn but I am sure someone else can help UniLove

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Ahhh, got it. I'll make a new thread if I need more advice once I finish completing the list you've given me. Thanks so much for all the help you've given me so far AbbySmile 🙏

ancient niche
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if u have any questions feel free to ask

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I just meant I might not be here 24/7 NJ_XD

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and ppl dont check old threads