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tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:19 PM

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no helena?

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ah

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sorry misread

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...i would just use BBs honestly

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the issue is

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ark, enty

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then what's the last one?

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ryuuhou is a healer, so is volga

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sara doesnt have TBs

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haku, avp, amagi are not max lb

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you could make a case for ark enty volga i guess?

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but that raises a lot of eyebrows

wanton fable Sep 13, 2024, 2:22 PM

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she reduces her first airstrike cooldown by 40%

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:22 PM

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independence first airstrike cooldown is reduced

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 2:22 PM

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~~Why does one want to sync again?~~ nvm I'm a clown didn't see ark mentioned

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:22 PM

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she launches around 15s in

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 2:22 PM

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Is there a gimmick?

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:23 PM

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to make use of the slow and other buffs

wanton fable Sep 13, 2024, 2:23 PM

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not to mention Independence's damage against single target isn't that impressive to begin with

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:23 PM

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in this case, slow isn't THAT relevant sure

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but helena is

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indep wont meet helena's timing

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i think best might be a mixed fleet tbh

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of fdg uvh enty

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what do you think cheeky

wanton fable Sep 13, 2024, 2:24 PM

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I would agree

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:24 PM

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it's not like he has CV buffers

wanton fable Sep 13, 2024, 2:24 PM

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though hilariously

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I think Independence might line up decently with SG radar Helena

reef gull Sep 13, 2024, 2:24 PM

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He has more chances asking for help then killing it himself EssexWheeze

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:24 PM

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...she would sync

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lol

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but yes

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fdg in the middle, uvh and enty to the side

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that's the best you're getting

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 2:25 PM

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reef gull He has more chances asking for help then killing it himself <:EssexWheeze:111392...

Was about to comment damage too small to matters

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:25 PM

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well Nagato is heavy right?

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:25 PM

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yes

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but his other carrier options are rather anaemic

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:25 PM

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what are the Planes that are heavy oriented again

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:25 PM

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and UR do funni numbers

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 2:25 PM

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That's okay, you can beat in 3 cycles then

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:25 PM

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torp bombers

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dive bombers

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but for bosses, just torp bombers

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:26 PM

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Converging right

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:26 PM

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yes

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not that enty has much tb

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to converge

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db + 2 tb slots

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:26 PM

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man, I still don't start Research seven

reef gull Sep 13, 2024, 2:27 PM

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Oh heyyy it's the gameplay feedback guy

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:27 PM

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so might stick with Ju or Ryusei

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so

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how about me

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:31 PM

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...good question

reef gull Sep 13, 2024, 2:32 PM

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I don't see Sakura either , so your CV sucks balls

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:32 PM

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yeah Amagi is still not MLB

reef gull Sep 13, 2024, 2:32 PM

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Musashi NJ Alsace

reef gull Sep 13, 2024, 2:32 PM

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wicked zodiac yeah Amagi is still not MLB

That's not the problem

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Where is your shinano and haku

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 2:32 PM

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Amagi buffs sakura you no sakura, amagi buffn't

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:33 PM

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hakuryuu still 24 dev

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:33 PM

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uhh

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:33 PM

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shinano...... yeah.....

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:33 PM

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goose, how was yk2 dmg against heavy?

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💀

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:33 PM

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BiskoSweat

reef gull Sep 13, 2024, 2:33 PM

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So CV sucks balls , go full UR BB

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:33 PM

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musashi alsace nj would be my opinion too

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:33 PM

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vanguard

reef gull Sep 13, 2024, 2:33 PM

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tardy marsh goose, how was yk2 dmg against heavy?

She is still top 5, but that doesn't change anything

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:34 PM

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...why is helena so low

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:34 PM

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Ehhssex

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you said raise my Agir, Yat sen and ah shen

reef gull Sep 13, 2024, 2:35 PM

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EssexWheeze

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:35 PM

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wat

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 2:35 PM

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Who ah shen

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:35 PM

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an shan

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helena is

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more important than yat

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 2:35 PM

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Portland starter helena

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:35 PM

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I mean The last time I use thread is for 14-3

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:35 PM

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helena is the

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:35 PM

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EssexWheeze

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:36 PM

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"expected" ship to be raised

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by all players

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in the early game

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well your damage is oof

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ig

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musashi alsace nj
agir helena an shan i guess

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book your helena to 120

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:38 PM

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hmmmmm, What main fleet Equipment?

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:38 PM

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champagne guns for all

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 2:38 PM

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Nah imagine booking to 120 just to add like 24% more damage

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:38 PM

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it's to keep her alive

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not for the negligible damage she deals

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lol

wanton fable Sep 13, 2024, 2:38 PM

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valid sage Nah imagine booking to 120 just to add like 24% more damage

that's not the point but I agree to the no booking

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:38 PM

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fair

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what else is there tho NagaThonk

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 2:39 PM

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Pretty sure it takes like 500? Books

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:39 PM

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WHY IS ROYAL FORTUNE 124

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EssexAAAAAAAAA

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is the real question

wanton fable Sep 13, 2024, 2:39 PM

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Shimakaze, Unzen

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:39 PM

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oh yeah

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i missed unzen

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anchorage/agir shima unzen then

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 2:40 PM

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tardy marsh WHY IS ROYAL FORTUNE 124

Lol

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:40 PM

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tardy marsh WHY IS ROYAL FORTUNE 124

I got U meta.... kinda forgot her

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:40 PM

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556m is good tho

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and actually is used in some of the best sub comps

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royal fortune isnt used in any serious sub comps

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 2:41 PM

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Huh isn't she like die when it matters most?

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Heard oxy pretty low

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Can't survive the campaign pressure

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:42 PM

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that's a skill issue

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lol

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legitimately

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knowing when to summon subs can make a huge difference

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and she has higher o2 than the other uboats anyways

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so anyways

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final comp

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musashi alsace nj
anc/agir shima unzen

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:43 PM

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.... champy gun

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:43 PM

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3 of them

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otherwise

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:43 PM

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BiskoSweat

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:43 PM

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mix with flandre

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and soyuz guns

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:44 PM

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man, I only got Nj gun, Eagle Ap drum gun and... Prototype 410 Ehhssex

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:44 PM

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how many proto 410

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im assuming it's izumo gun

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:45 PM

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/wiki Prototype 410mm

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MutsukiHyperStare

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man Skill issue

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oh triple 410mm

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:48 PM

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Bot not here

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PortDoll

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:48 PM

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oh well

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it's the triple 410mm

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 2:48 PM

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tardy marsh knowing when to summon subs can make a huge difference

Dang I see

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:48 PM

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How many do you have
Are they already upgraded?

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:48 PM

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yeah

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+10

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1 iirc

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 2:48 PM

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Ah

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That solves 1

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Can you buy the BPs for champagne guns?

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Using protocore

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You can only buy 1 right now but well

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 2:52 PM

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tardy marsh You can only buy 1 right now but well

It might not even be enough if they don't have at least 5 bps

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:52 PM

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it is the triple 406mm right?

wanton fable Sep 13, 2024, 2:52 PM

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from PR3 yes

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 2:54 PM

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yeah I did

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also who will wear the Admiral Table? Only have one

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 3:00 PM

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Musashi

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 3:00 PM

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so her gun?

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also Super heavy ammo or AP ammo also Crossbow or Sword?

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 3:02 PM

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You pretty much never use sap

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Crossbow

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 3:03 PM

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so all crossbow

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 3:03 PM

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I don't know what guns you have, but use the ~20s AP guns

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406mm you just bought will do

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Izumo gun triple 410 on musashi

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 3:07 PM

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valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 3:09 PM

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That's pretty good

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Coordinates (0,0) for nj, (0,1) for musashi, (6,1) for alsace

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Bruh could have saved some protocores (?) Idk tbh

wanton fable Sep 13, 2024, 3:12 PM

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what

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how exactly

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 3:13 PM

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By delaying the purchase of 406mm

wanton fable Sep 13, 2024, 3:13 PM

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why

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 3:14 PM

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Idk tbh
I mean what if they release a powercreep, what if they have a better helena that doesnt sync with 406, it is better not to buy something no?

wanton fable Sep 13, 2024, 3:14 PM

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one, Helena is a launch day ship

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it's highly unlikely there's going to be anyone who directly power creeps her

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2, the Champaign gun also dates back to 2020 and is still relevant

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 3:16 PM

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hmmmm What are those coordinate?

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Ehhssex

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also what is NJ gun

wanton fable Sep 13, 2024, 3:16 PM

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the Mk7

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 3:17 PM

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Not nj gun, (0,0) is the iowa gun 457, (0,1) is the izumo gun proto 310, (6,1) is the champagne 406

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Sorry idk how to draw picture and send it here

wanton fable Sep 13, 2024, 3:18 PM

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what, no it's not

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 3:18 PM

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wait why 310mm not 410mm?

wanton fable Sep 13, 2024, 3:18 PM

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the 457 was not used by the Iowa class

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it's Georgia's main gun from WoWs

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 3:20 PM

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Yea that's what I mean

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MutsukiHyperStare

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 3:21 PM

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wicked zodiac

trip 410 for musashi, champagne gun for alsace, mk7 for nj

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since you're lacking another good bb ap

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well

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you could use 457

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but idk

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NagaThonk

valid sage Sep 13, 2024, 3:21 PM

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Why mk7 instead of 457, ailment?

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 3:22 PM

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actually

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there is nothing to sync with huh

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i guess agir's slow

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 3:23 PM

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hmmmm what torpedo

tardy marsh Sep 13, 2024, 3:23 PM

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yeah scratch that
we'll do this
457 for alsace, 410 for musashi, champy for nj

wicked zodiac Sep 13, 2024, 3:26 PM

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hmmm what about vanguard?

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