help

[rancid pelican]

hey

[weak lintel]

salutations

[rancid pelican]

should I screenshot it? i can also livestream mya cc

if u want

[weak lintel]

no

just screen shots

[rancid pelican]

ok sure

[marsh birch]

u can't livestream in this discord

[rancid pelican]

all ships or blue +?

[rancid pelican]

what whuy?

[calm matrix]

Sorted by level, and leaving out commons and rares

[weak lintel]

the latter

[rancid pelican]

bulians are ruiing my dock space

[hoary latch]

youll need them

[weak lintel]

there's a few good ships you can start working on at least

[rancid pelican]

i dont pull btw only the 3 summons

[weak lintel]

Nelson, Saratoga, and Le Audacious mainly

[weak lintel]

what

[rancid pelican]

I only do the 3 daily pulls

other than taht im hoarding cubes

[marsh birch]

n word

[weak lintel]

that's fine

[rancid pelican]

1 sec let me see who they are

[rancid pelican]

what

[weak lintel]

just remember one light pull a day when there's no event going on

[rancid pelican]

wait

[fallen talon]

hopefully you cut it down to 1 (and on light pool) after the event ended

[hoary latch]

what??

[rancid pelican]

my ship name xd my abd guys

[fallen talon]

look at what he renamed indomitable

[hoary latch]

oh shit lmao

[rancid pelican]

but the mission says 3 no?

[fallen talon]

that's the event mission
the regular mission is 1

[weak lintel]

what mission

[rancid pelican]

should I ignore it then?

[fallen talon]

he's talking about the build 3 ships daily from events

[weak lintel]

yeah I get that much

[rancid pelican]

I shouldnt do that mission then?

[weak lintel]

but there's no event active right now and thus no such mission is active either

[rancid pelican]

oh snap

i did it out of habit

my abd

Nelson, Saratoga, and Le Audacious

[weak lintel]

yeah, always bear that in mind

[rancid pelican]

theya re good ina vacum or they play good togheter?

[weak lintel]

anyway, where exactly are in the main campaign again

[rancid pelican]

9-4

[marsh birch]

can dupleix be the main tank ?

[weak lintel]

they're good individually, no pairs needed

[weak lintel]

definitely not

[rancid pelican]

okok 1 sec i need to see who they are

[hoary latch]

dupliex trash (according to gph)

[calm matrix]

You might wanna change or hide that Indomitable nickname next time if you don't wanna get in trouble btw

[rancid pelican]

yes im osrry I cant change its name

i tried just for wtv and it let me

1st gacha with renames that dont have filters lmao

in 20 days or so ill rename my bad

[fallen talon]

they dont have much synergy but they're simply good ships

[rancid pelican]

okay

should I follow the tier list?

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

the community one

[weak lintel]

if you read the guidelines and descriptions it's fine as a starter's source

[marsh birch]

tier list won't give u a fleet to work with

[rancid pelican]

yeah I get that

[rancid pelican]

thanks

the first girl I wanted to build

saratoga

seems op

l'audacieux okok

she's french tho

[weak lintel]

and she's quite good

anyway, start getting those 3 leveled up

[rancid pelican]

okok

[weak lintel]

the other slots are bit up in the air for now and with an event next week I'd rather wai a bit to fill those slots

also work on getting Unicorn retrofitted

[marsh birch]

can i add an avrora suggestion ?

[rancid pelican]

thats another qustion I have, how do I level up ships? go on lower levels with laffey to carry my ass?

[fallen talon]

Meh

[rancid pelican]

I saw the livestream maybe new boat is op

the event one

[weak lintel]

who knows

we'll have to wait till next week to find out

[weak lintel]

why exactly?

[fallen talon]

grind grind grind
your ships are also lvl 100+ so you can now passively grind XP books just by sortieing with those ships

[marsh birch]

works well with l'audacieux i think ? and he is missing vanguards

[weak lintel]

they already have a Javlin at level 80

[rancid pelican]

I feel like 125 laffey was a waste but idc shes my first ship

[weak lintel]

plus Fargo at least from the event

[fallen talon]

She doesnt really have any chemistry with the french besides the universal damage buff

[weak lintel]

what they really need is a mob tank right now

[rancid pelican]

isnt portland op?

or she a boss tank

[weak lintel]

I just don't see much value in Avrora specifically right now

[weak lintel]

she's gonna be your boss tank for now

and Portland isn't OP

[rancid pelican]

what about phoenix

[weak lintel]

she's just very cost effective

[rancid pelican]

low oil

yeah

[weak lintel]

meh

[weak lintel]

no, oil cost is basically irrelevant

she's just as tanky if not tankier than most other commonly available tanks

[marsh birch]

then it should be the usual pr routing
roon fdg ?

[weak lintel]

and doesn't require gold bullins

[rancid pelican]

so shes decent no?

[weak lintel]

she's decent yes

[hoary latch]

not worth the time tho

[rancid pelican]

i picked roon but i have 0 german ships lmao

[fallen talon]

to put it simply, she's the best tank you'll have early game

[rancid pelican]

but mid late shes trash

?

[weak lintel]

she's outclassed

[marsh birch]

there is a good war archive for this specific task
divergent chessboard

[fallen talon]

more like by that point you should be working towards better tanks like Anchorage and the CBs

[rancid pelican]

wtf is a war archive

is like a event archive?

[fallen talon]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/War_Archives

basically they're perament versions of old events

[rancid pelican]

azur lane best gacha or what

that's insane

[weak lintel]

it's not quite as impressive as it sounds

[rancid pelican]

still better than nothing imo

[weak lintel]

espeically if you're not into the story

[rancid pelican]

in other gachas they dont have it or it took years

[rancid pelican]

im not

not yet at least

[weak lintel]

it does take years to archive events in AL

2 years+ just to rerun them

[rancid pelican]

thats rough

[fallen talon]

for AL it roughly takes 3 years for a event to be archived
2+ years after intial run for the rerun then roughly a year after that to be archived

[rancid pelican]

i wanted the short black hair ship so bad

german ur

10/10 best design

[marsh birch]

bz ?

[calm matrix]

UvH

[fallen talon]

UvH

[rancid pelican]

shes ur

[rancid pelican]

ye

[fallen talon]

Bismarck doesnt have black hair lmfao

[rancid pelican]

short black hair

my bad

[marsh birch]

i don't focus much on appearances tbh

[fallen talon]

luckily for you, UvH is the next UR in line to be archived, but unfortunately not the next event in line to be archived

[rancid pelican]

i ususally dont but azur lane is my casual side game from now on

[weak lintel]

you can expect her to be added to the perma pool in a few months probably

[rancid pelican]

i just need to hoard 1000 summons

gg

[rancid pelican]

thats crazy

how much should I save

[weak lintel]

no

[rancid pelican]

300 right for ur selector?

[fallen talon]

maybe
hopefully devs remember that Aquila event exists lol

[weak lintel]

you need to spend 400 cubes on applicable banners to build up pity

[calm matrix]

But don't pull on permanent banner, just build up your UR selector by pulling in non UR events and light build on dead weeks

[fallen talon]

^

[weak lintel]

that's even accounting for Aquila getting archived first

[rancid pelican]

ur talking about this right

[hoary latch]

ya

[calm matrix]

Yep

[fallen talon]

yee
cheeky where's that perma UR trap image

[rancid pelican]

wait why pull only on non ur events?

i cant poull in ur events why?

[hoary latch]

game said so

[weak lintel]

no that's not what they meant

[calm matrix]

You can, but it only builds up on non UR events and perma banners

[weak lintel]

pity doesn't build when pulling on any UR events

[rancid pelican]

sorry english not my first language

[fallen talon]

basically pulls on any non-UR banner count towards perament pity
UR events dont count since they have their own pity for the banner UR

[rancid pelican]

bruv

[weak lintel]

and you don't wanna pull on the perma pool for URs because it's massive bait

[rancid pelican]

miss me with that

[calm matrix]

What is it then?

[marsh birch]

did u miss vanguard because u were pulling on this perma ?

[rancid pelican]

portuguese

[fallen talon]

perma URs are also not in any event pools

[rancid pelican]

miss vanguard?

[hoary latch]

prolly one of the other millions of languages

[rancid pelican]

I have never pulled on a ur banner

[marsh birch]

the previous UR event

[fallen talon]

i dont think he was here for that

[weak lintel]

impossible seeing as you have Indomitable

[rancid pelican]

i started playing like 3 weeks ago

[fallen talon]

oh nvm right Indomitable

[rancid pelican]

indomitable was a ur banner?

but it counted my pity..

[fallen talon]

no
She was part of a UR banner

[calm matrix]

Yeah you missed her https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Vanguard

[hoary latch]

oh well tragic, but not a complete loss

[rancid pelican]

yeah mb

so I did waste my vubes

[weak lintel]

you are mistaken then

[rancid pelican]

unlucky

II should off myself tbh lost 50 cubes gg wp

[fallen talon]

eh you'll live

[calm matrix]

[hoary latch]

not rly cuz its a gamble

[marsh birch]

save for the next ur event

[fallen talon]

UR BBs are quite the popular category, they're nearly a dime a dozen compared to URs for the other hulltypes

[rancid pelican]

Yeah i see like 30 bb's

ur

and 0 dd

[weak lintel]

massive exageration

[rancid pelican]

are dd's bad or redditors are sleepyheads?

[weak lintel]

redditors are being idiosts as usual

[calm matrix]

What does it have to do with reddit

[rancid pelican]

everyone keeps telling me dd's are useless why

[hoary latch]

redditors cant be trusted

[fallen talon]

depends on the DD in question and yes generally reddit is untrustable

[hoary latch]

good news is they arent

[rancid pelican]

ggwp

[rancid pelican]

hard flex

[calm matrix]

There's 3 sources that you shouldn't get your information from:
Reddit
Youtube
#al-general

[rancid pelican]

ur the elon musk of azur lane

or what

[weak lintel]

hahaha

[rancid pelican]

I keep seeing this asian dude

[weak lintel]

by the standards of this channel it's not that impressive

[rancid pelican]

kimono?

[calm matrix]

The class clown

[hoary latch]

said asian dude is prolly kimocheese

[weak lintel]

oh fuck Kimo Cheese, ignore him at all costs

[rancid pelican]

rreally

unlucky

account is bricked then gg go next

[weak lintel]

it's not his account

it's the advice he gives

it's absolute dog shit

[rancid pelican]

he gives advice for the top 1% sweats or what

[hoary latch]

his account is good, but hes ass , all he does is follow textbook progression

[weak lintel]

no, he just spouts his own nonsense thinking it's good advice when it's not

[hoary latch]

no its straight up trash advice

[rancid pelican]

damn thats crazy

rip

[fallen talon]

more like the bottom 50% that dont know to go seek actual help and think his nonsense is actual advice

[rancid pelican]

I will block his ass on youtube thanks

[calm matrix]

lol

[hoary latch]

no need, just dont watch with an intent to learn

[rancid pelican]

~is kasumi meta decent or what? what evena re meta ships

[hoary latch]

i mean i watch him, just for the fuck of it

[calm matrix]

I hate watch him

[weak lintel]

Kasumi META is not great and META ships are alternative versions of existing ships

[rancid pelican]

hate wacthing

[rancid pelican]

damn thats sad

rip

[weak lintel]

#al-lore can fill you in on what they're from that perspective

[fallen talon]

Cruise pass METAs like Kasumi META are generally considered bottom tier garbage and the Showdown ones in Operation Siren can be summed up as "Good but better options exist" and you're prob gonna be using said better options to get them in the first place

[rancid pelican]

then ignore them

got it

have not invested a single resource on them

[fallen talon]

not exactly
the one plus side to them is that they dont take up any dock space

[rancid pelican]

samne with foch meta

[fallen talon]

and this is a late game thing, but some of them give good fleet tech bonuses

[rancid pelican]

thats neat

im in dire need of space

[calm matrix]

You haven't used your gems on random stuff right?

[rancid pelican]

red gems?

nah

only space

and dorm

[calm matrix]

For F2P players we recommend to only use them on dock space and a few dorm upgrades

[rancid pelican]

yeah thats what i did

i did one mistake tho...

[calm matrix]

And by a few it's only like 3rd slot + 2nd floor and that's it

[rancid pelican]

u see the food meter its like 40k right

u can expand it

i clicked on it just to see how much it would expand

it didnt even confirm

just bought it straight up

[calm matrix]

It's only like 200 gems iirc

[hoary latch]

oh yea game does that, anyways, minor setback

[calm matrix]

so not that much

[rancid pelican]

can i buy rings tho

the 2 rings

discount seems good

[fallen talon]

Not with F2P gems

[rancid pelican]

not even the 980 for 2 rings?

[calm matrix]

nope

[rancid pelican]

damn

[calm matrix]

That's almost 50 dock space you are missing on

[rancid pelican]

I was really exited for that

rip

[hoary latch]

💳

[rancid pelican]

I'll only swipe if I last 1 year

[fallen talon]

F2P gems usage is basically 2nd floor of dorm, 3rd spot in dorm, then the rest is full send into dock space and nothing else

[calm matrix]

If you want stuff like skins, rings and whatever it probably should come out of your pocket if you don't wanna screw up your progression in the long run

[hoary latch]

if you do spend money one day, thx for keeping the servers running

[rancid pelican]

I'll buy gems in 2026 when they announce EoS

oh and about lab

shipyard

so roon is getting like no xp

I have 0 german ships

should i do the permanent side event to get some?

[hoary latch]

you could

[rancid pelican]

how good is roon

in a scale of 1 to 10

with my account in consideration

[weak lintel]

not good

[hoary latch]

ehhhhh, its kinda like not rlyt gonna help a lot

[rancid pelican]

damn thats rough

[weak lintel]

she's a small upgrade to Portland at considerable cost relatively speaking

she's mainly gonna be useful for getting Iron Blood tech points

[calm matrix]

You just want her for the tech to work towards FdG

[hoary latch]

oh yea cheeky, whats with the dupes

[rancid pelican]

yes thats the big goal

it will take like 8 months right

[weak lintel]

got lucky during reruns and perma exchange

[weak lintel]

no

more like 3 months if you do things optimally to max her

[hoary latch]

damn, maybe one day for me

[rancid pelican]

thats not bad at all

[weak lintel]

at least Dev 30 anyway

[rancid pelican]

so imagine thats my "main goal"

to get her asap

i should do the event for fleet tech points

?

bruv

[weak lintel]

nothing would really change compared to normal progression for you

among other reasons

trying to rush her this early will just take longer and cause more problems than it solves

[rancid pelican]

I feel like she's op af

[weak lintel]

ehhh

[rancid pelican]

ok I get that

[weak lintel]

among UR BBs I'd consider her the weakest actually

[rancid pelican]

so if not trying to rush wich ships should i get from lab?

[weak lintel]

you don't basically

PR is a secondary focus at best right now

[rancid pelican]

So i just ignore it?

[weak lintel]

pretty much

like you can probably work on getting XP for Saint Louis at least right now

[rancid pelican]

I feel like its sucha waste to give her retrofit mats

gold ones this early

[calm matrix]

Also don't use Combat Data Packs to rush the Combat Data Collection missions

[weak lintel]

it kinda is

[rancid pelican]

combat data packs?

[calm matrix]

You are screwing yourself really badly if you do

[hoary latch]

dont use that

[rancid pelican]

okok

never used them

[calm matrix]

Those things

[rancid pelican]

im not using anything

im trying to not spend on dumb things

[calm matrix]

Analyze them over at Depot > Items

You are gonna be using them for Protocore shop

[rancid pelican]

should I do it?

[calm matrix]

Yes all of them

[rancid pelican]

im scared

okok

[calm matrix]

Why

[rancid pelican]

Ill do it

what if ur trolling me

le troll moment

[hoary latch]

thats tha best way to use them

[calm matrix]

I would literally get banned from this channel if I did

[hoary latch]

also we dont troll here, go to generl chat for trolls

[rancid pelican]

my bad

[weak lintel]

if you wwre getting trolled

[rancid pelican]

thanks then ill convert them all

[weak lintel]

others would already be typing their keyboard's off calling it out

[calm matrix]

and probably @ mods

[rancid pelican]

makes sense

i left one

memories : , )

[weak lintel]

well this is a good start at least

[rancid pelican]

what do i with them tho

[hoary latch]

anyways..... ask here if you have any questions

[rancid pelican]

proto store?

[weak lintel]

go to the prototype shop and get Series 3 Gear Prints please

you're first priority from the shop is 3 of these

[rancid pelican]

series 3 gear prints

wait

[weak lintel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)

[rancid pelican]

these ones?

[weak lintel]

yes

[rancid pelican]

all 20?

[weak lintel]

yes

[calm matrix]

Yes 20 of them, you need 25 to get one of these #1272033196275404912 message

[rancid pelican]

25?

[calm matrix]

We recommend getting 3 guns

[rancid pelican]

why the game cucking me with 5 left

[calm matrix]

Yep, so it will take you 4 months to get all 3 guns

[rancid pelican]

bruv

im 4 months who knows if im even alive

[calm matrix]

idk scream to the devs over at #game-feedback

[rancid pelican]

but at least I have a goal

so next month again 20

[calm matrix]

Well now go to depot > items

[rancid pelican]

if i knew this before rip

[calm matrix]

And use them to get 20 blueprints of the gun above

[rancid pelican]

why this gun so good?

[calm matrix]

Best AP gun of the game

[rancid pelican]

Ap gun

[calm matrix]

For Medium and Heavy armor enemies/bosses

[rancid pelican]

ability power gun?

[hoary latch]

armor piercing

[rancid pelican]

what does ap mean

okook

bosses have heavy armour im assuming

[calm matrix]

ew you are a league frog

same

[rancid pelican]

disgusting

[weak lintel]

not all

it's either light, medium, or heavy armor

[rancid pelican]

ap is good in genral use ?

[weak lintel]

ehh not quite

[rancid pelican]

I just got scammed then

[hoary latch]

no situational, but it can be used generally, in easier content

[weak lintel]

what no

[rancid pelican]

sorry

[hoary latch]

no u didnt get scammed, the guns rly good

[rancid pelican]

5 more an im gucci

[weak lintel]

a lot of bosses in mid and late game are medium and heavy armor

which is what the Champaign gun is very good at dealing with

[rancid pelican]

and who sould I put it on?

[calm matrix]

BBs

[rancid pelican]

makes sense

[rancid pelican]

but wich one?

[calm matrix]

Whichever is your stronger bossing BB

[rancid pelican]

sovetska

bossing bb thats crazy

[calm matrix]

For mobbing just stick to the mk6

[rancid pelican]

who can boss here

zzz

nelson I guess

[hoary latch]

sovetskaya, also fighting bosses you dont need to worry too much abt rn

actually

[weak lintel]

most ships do both mobbing and bossing just fine

[rancid pelican]

thats nice

[calm matrix]

Aka this https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/45_Mk_6)#Type_2-0

[rancid pelican]

I can change gear anyway u dont need to spend gold to change gear : D

[calm matrix]

Which is purple an also the 2nd best HE gun of the game

[rancid pelican]

let me see

if i have it

[calm matrix]

You probably do

Not that hard to get

[rancid pelican]

purple one?

i dont

[calm matrix]

Well

[rancid pelican]

maybe im blind

can i evenm sort guns

[weak lintel]

well you made a mistake then

[calm matrix]

Btw

[weak lintel]

because the game gives you a +6 one

[calm matrix]

Are you composing your T1 and T2 boxes to T3?

[rancid pelican]

WHAT

[rancid pelican]

yes

[calm matrix]

Or has it equipped on another ship

[rancid pelican]

when does tit give me one?

equiped dont show?

[calm matrix]

Look for it by pressing show equipped on your depot

[candid goblet]

bottom left depot gear

[weak lintel]

yeah that

[rancid pelican]

😿

[calm matrix]

Well she already has it

lol

[rancid pelican]

yes

Have a spare one

nice

how bad is this

[calm matrix]

Not the worst I've seen from a new player

[rancid pelican]

not the best aswell

[calm matrix]

That augment might have been a mistake to make early on lol since it's 20k but w/e it's good

[rancid pelican]

rip

I like her design

my bad then

[calm matrix]

For gear check out this guide https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

You are mostly gonna be using the "transitional" gear

[rancid pelican]

thats waht im using no?

im using that website like my life depends on it

[candid goblet]

there are 3 BB guns youd be using depending on content

IJN twin 410, for your mob BB
champagne gun for med/heavy
triple 406 mk6 for light

the premium options are mk7 for light and twin 457 for med/heavy (situational kinda)

[calm matrix]

Idk about the Twin 410

[rancid pelican]

Im still to early to remember any of those names

but i noted it

[calm matrix]

There's only a few ships that prefer it over the mk6

[candid goblet]

hood is one

[calm matrix]

Yeah that's decent

[rancid pelican]

she one shots

every boss

gg

purple steam cat worth to +8?

one problem im having is the +8 mission

[hoary latch]

u cna go to setting to turn off show custom names btw

[calm matrix]

Not really

[rancid pelican]

I feel like its a waste to +8 purple gear

[calm matrix]

There's a few gears that are good +10

[rancid pelican]

thanks for that

[calm matrix]

Mainly guns, a few planes

[rancid pelican]

like waht, repair kit?

[rancid pelican]

purple ones???

[calm matrix]

Yep that's another one

[candid goblet]

repair kit is low prio imo but yes

[rancid pelican]

what about fire supressor

🤢

[calm matrix]

You are gonan end up with over 20 +10 toolkits someday

[rancid pelican]

i will just +8 3 of them then

[calm matrix]

Cuz most ppl are too lazy to swap them

[rancid pelican]

what about purple steam cat?

or the planes from indomitable?

[calm matrix]

leave it at +6 and wait for a gold one

[rancid pelican]

that will take like 7 years

but sure

[calm matrix]

The F4U corsair is fine to +10

[candid goblet]

i have 2 +10 toolkits and a bunch +6/8 and im just at 14-2

[rancid pelican]

im at 9-1 rip

[calm matrix]

Well that's not good tho

[rancid pelican]

really???

i saw smoethiong about 500lb bomb

[hoary latch]

well you dont rly have options

[rancid pelican]

wiping

[calm matrix]

You said you read the guide

It's your best poverty option fighter

[rancid pelican]

i galnced tru it

my bad ahahahah

but i do follow guides from there

[calm matrix]

Also Helldivers

+10 those without remorse

[rancid pelican]

and this one aswell

[candid goblet]

helldivers are great yes

[rancid pelican]

I will then

[hoary latch]

ectl isnt a guide

[rancid pelican]

planes +10 gg

[rancid pelican]

more like best in slot gear no?

i can just put in what i have from taht list ggwp

[calm matrix]

There's not such thing as BiS

[candid goblet]

there is no BiS gear

[calm matrix]

Since gear is dependent on content

[hoary latch]

rough ideas for loadouts based on gear stats

[calm matrix]

Hover your mouse over the gear for notes

[rancid pelican]

okok so general idea gear

[rancid pelican]

yeah i saw

[weak lintel]

ectl reccs are general which is the opposite of best in slot

[rancid pelican]

some say transitional etc where to get them

[rancid pelican]

makes sense

[calm matrix]

Double click the gear and it sends you to wiki

[rancid pelican]

i dont have helldivers

[rancid pelican]

wiki link

it shows gear lab

[calm matrix]

For what?

[rancid pelican]

okok

thats handy

i just cliked the hellcat

[calm matrix]

Like the F6F?

[rancid pelican]

yes

cant craft catapult gg

[calm matrix]

Yeah you are mainly gonna get it from T4/T5 boxes

[rancid pelican]

😿

[calm matrix]

most ppl don't craft the hellcat

[rancid pelican]

what about this one

the gold

[calm matrix]

The Messershit

[candid goblet]

messi is bad

[rancid pelican]

😿

[calm matrix]

You may have noticed that higher rarity isn't always better

[rancid pelican]

yes

[calm matrix]

Prime example is this thing over here

[rancid pelican]

is the black shell and white shell priority?

[calm matrix]

Worst gun in the game

[rancid pelican]

poor guy

[weak lintel]

from the core data shop yes

[calm matrix]

Yeah you want at least 2 or 3 pairs

[weak lintel]

might wanna give /coredata in #bot-spam a read

[calm matrix]

I died in BTD6 I didn't pause

[weak lintel]

rip

[rancid pelican]

I read some of it

it said the shells were top priority

i will read the rest of it once I get them borth

[rancid pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-play-bloons-bloons-bloons-td6-bloons-tower-defense-i-love-bloons-gif-24617885

[candid goblet]

3 white shell 3 black shell (unless u have AFCT, in which case 2 black shell is fine kinda)

[rancid pelican]

that will take a long while

holy

[candid goblet]

it will but dont worry

[calm matrix]

oh yeah

Did you get the rainbow table from the event?

[candid goblet]

you will get there if you’re diligent with doing hard mode

[rancid pelican]

rainbow table?

[calm matrix]

The one you got Indomitable from

[rancid pelican]

i cant fill the slots dont have bb ships geared

[calm matrix]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Admiralty_Fire_Control_Table

That thing

[rancid pelican]

i started when the event was already active

i could only do 1st difficulty

[candid goblet]

so did you get the thing

[calm matrix]

Hmmm

[rancid pelican]

nah

[calm matrix]

rip

[candid goblet]

sadness

[rancid pelican]

it was so slow i had only a couple days left

and now this event came

the last one

no gear rip

maybe next event has gear...

[candid goblet]

well then 3 white 3 black shell

[rancid pelican]

😿

[calm matrix]

Most events have gear

[rancid pelican]

will do

[rancid pelican]

aniv events are op or what

[candid goblet]

does he have indep

[calm matrix]

I don't think so

[rancid pelican]

indep?

[candid goblet]

if no independence might wanna grab her before shells

[calm matrix]

Nope he doesn't

[candid goblet]

/coredata follow the red

[weak lintel]

I wouldn't reccomend it

[candid goblet]

nimi no work

[calm matrix]

He has Sara

[weak lintel]

among other reasons they already have Saratoga, Unicorn and Nelson to retrofit

[rancid pelican]

Independence is a big winner in the retrofit lottery. A relatively vanilla CVL now boasts a full CV allotment of 8 planes with a distinct torpedo bomber lean, as well as a potent barrage; this is a dramatic boost in performance. Independence can be used in any CV fleet with good effect, however she can be too fast for her own good. In some cases she can be nigh impossible to sync with other CVs, which is often desirable. Her cross-fleet buff is quite powerful and should be considered when using her. It is not necessary post-retrofit to bring a Cleveland class as the base barrage is already substantially stronger, though if you do the reasonable increase to the barrage damage and the AVI and Acc buffs are useful.

[calm matrix]

Nimi doesn't work in threads

[rancid pelican]

shes op

but i will have like 10000 ships no

gear is bottleneck?

[calm matrix]

Early on kinda

[candid goblet]

u will do gear swapping often

[calm matrix]

For now just focus on the ships cheeky said

[rancid pelican]

these ones

[calm matrix]

Yep

[hoary latch]

yea

[rancid pelican]

btw no one said how do I level them up

[candid goblet]

gearing up your 12 main ships will take time yes

[rancid pelican]

just slap laffey

?

[calm matrix]

Throw them into dorm

Since you said you are in what w7?

or not?

[candid goblet]

farm highest stage you can do comfortably, xp pack them to not immediately die

dorm too yes

[rancid pelican]

w9

[calm matrix]

oh

[rancid pelican]

i have no prob beating w9

[candid goblet]

wonderful you have oilcap very good

[rancid pelican]

laffey is carrying my ass

oilcap?

[calm matrix]

Once you are done with W9 level them probably level them up in 9-1

[rancid pelican]

i keep reading about it

9-1...

[rancid pelican]

okay i will do it

[rancid pelican]

but im at world 9 and can still use whoever I want

[calm matrix]

Huh

wdym

[rancid pelican]

why am i spending 69 oil then

[calm matrix]

Yeah read that again

oilcap just reduces the maximum oil you consume regardless of your fleet cost

[rancid pelican]

ohhh

so it is already applied on that 69?

[calm matrix]

And if you are still using 69 or w/e

[rancid pelican]

so w/o oil cap i use like 120

[calm matrix]

you probably don't have it on clear mode

which is when map is at 100%

not the map as a whole but 9-1, 9-2, etc

individually

[rancid pelican]

I see

only 100% maps show this

[rancid pelican]

I have only completed a stage and off to the other since w7

[candid goblet]

when you have clearing enabled you have oilcap enabled

[rancid pelican]

yeah

that's nice

[calm matrix]

Have you 3* all maps prior to W9?

[rancid pelican]

so I should spam 9-1

yes

[calm matrix]

Cuz that gives gems if you are struggling with dock space

oh ok

[calm matrix]

9-1 or 9-4

[rancid pelican]

i was on w7 for a week

[calm matrix]

why

[rancid pelican]

just spamming for the double ring discount

[rancid pelican]

event farm

to reach 25k points

[calm matrix]

oh

[rancid pelican]

was betetr no?

campaign is always here

events no

[calm matrix]

Yeah you always farm events first

[rancid pelican]

yeah like any other gacha

nice

thank you all for the help

[calm matrix]

yw

feel free to ask whatever comes to your mind back in #gameplay-help

[rancid pelican]

should i fill my ffleet when im farming xp to not "waste exp" ?

[calm matrix]

Yep

For now throw them into dorm

[rancid pelican]

even if they die?

[calm matrix]

and feed them a couple books till like

Lv 50?

[rancid pelican]

okok

I dont have a lot of books

only thing i spent irracionaly

done

have one more slot but this way is better for xp right

[calm matrix]

I would say Level and limit break Audax asap

Since you are kinda wasting exp with Laffey

since she's already 125

[rancid pelican]

ok so I can bench laffey

and use her gear

on her?

on audax?

[calm matrix]

yeah

[rancid pelican]

damn

benching me bveloved

[candid goblet]

you can use laffey to carry while farming for levels

[calm matrix]

You are not replacing her forever, just temporally

[rancid pelican]

yeah true i cant bench laffey

[rancid pelican]

but if i replace her how do I farm?

[calm matrix]

W9 isn't that hard to need a 125

[rancid pelican]

idomitable and russian bb kills?

[candid goblet]

xp wasting one slot for easier leveling for the rest

[calm matrix]

Lv 80+ is enough

[rancid pelican]

so here i fill up the slots or what

[calm matrix]

or move Audax to 1st fleet

replacing laffey

[rancid pelican]

and should i reto the back girl (after unicorn) =?

[rancid pelican]

I can do that true

but then what about the other 2

[calm matrix]

Retro Unicorn asap

[rancid pelican]

almost done

she carried my ass early

[calm matrix]

And then flip a coin for Nelson or Sara

[rancid pelican]

they both have retrofits?

damn

[calm matrix]

Yep

[rancid pelican]

wich one is nelson

middle one?

[calm matrix]

The blond one

[rancid pelican]

wich one is better

in your opinion

[calm matrix]

Different hulls

[rancid pelican]

i know "better" isnt always black and white

[calm matrix]

But both are pretty good

[rancid pelican]

if u had to choose

for 1 million dollars

who would u choose

[calm matrix]

I haven't retro Nelson

But I've seen her perform as she's pretty good

Like I said flip a coin

[rancid pelican]

nelson better be top 5 units in the game

[calm matrix]

She's not lol

[rancid pelican]

otherwise im wasting mats ggwp

[calm matrix]

neither is Sara

[rancid pelican]

ok but sara has pink hair

[calm matrix]

The meta is URs

[hoary latch]

which you dont have

[calm matrix]

But early on you won't have many

[rancid pelican]

I will read both their kits an then decide

[hoary latch]

dont think it like that, she'll help you get tech points and help you thru stages

[rancid pelican]

well this was a big help

[rancid pelican]

im joking sorry

[calm matrix]

You'll wanna use her regardless

[rancid pelican]

i will prob go with saratoga tbh

[hoary latch]

nw but yea sooner or later youll want all ships in game

[calm matrix]

Since you will want 2 BBs

[rancid pelican]

ýeah eventually ill retro both

[calm matrix]

one for each fleet

[rancid pelican]

yeah

[rancid pelican]

im starting to see thats a problem for me

oinly have 1 sr

bb

[calm matrix]

And Belorussiya is staying in mob

[rancid pelican]

yeah

belo is good for mobing

[calm matrix]

and Nelson is going to Boss

[rancid pelican]

ggwp

again thank you all for the help

[calm matrix]

yw

[rancid pelican]

I have goals in this game now

have a good night

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469975691060838400/1270462495198285965/attachment.gif

[rancid pelican]

@fallen talon

should I add her on my 2nd fleet?

got her on my first hard mode clear crazy

[hoary latch]

uh probably not stick to your fleet for now

[rancid pelican]

okok

[fallen talon]

no
she needs her retrofit to be good and right now a SR -> UR retro is the least of your concerns

[rancid pelican]

should i use her eventually if i get her mats?

not directly farming

[fallen talon]

eventually yes
just not a high priority right now

[rancid pelican]

hi! is it a waste to 120 ships ? im on world 9

[weak lintel]

no

[rancid pelican]

nice i wil 120 my whole fleet then

do you think they all worth it?

unicorn I is

[weak lintel]

Yes

[rancid pelican]

nice thanks

125 is a different story tho right?

I should not 125 everything brcasue chips are rare right?

[weak lintel]

yes

[rancid pelican]

Ill post again

[long crystal]

[rancid pelican]

Done

im not even 1 month old account btw

[long crystal]

yeah no worries
i am here to help not judge

[rancid pelican]

🔥

so would those 2 fleets work

phoenix there

replaces portland portland goes to boss

[long crystal]

I would use l'aud for mob tank once she is levelled

[rancid pelican]

~laud is a tank

what

my bad then ahahahah

[long crystal]

she isnt but unicorn will carry so no worries

mob can get away with a weak tank early on
with level advantage u will push anyway

[rancid pelican]

the thinbg is im not with level advantage anymore

100lvl bosses

[sudden coyote]

@rancid pelican in general, levels are king when progressing campaign, and having lvl'd or overleveled ships can carry you far. Just having levels can have a squishy ship survive being front vanguard.

When it comes to using "tanks" and "off tanks" you just need the ship to be tanky enough to survive. They don't have to be labeled a tank necessarily

[rancid pelican]

so repair and fire extinguisher

= ggwp

[sudden coyote]

repair and evade accessories more like it

fire extinguisher is transitional and only if they are on fire.

[rancid pelican]

dont have a lot of those hanging around

[marsh birch]

nice i see her name is back to the normal now

[rancid pelican]

yeah my bad

I think im starting to understand fleertbuilding a little bit more

but still I dont want to waste recourses

want to make sure its a godd investment

[long crystal]

use l'aud, javelin, yuudachi for mob vanguard

portland helena laffey for boss vanguard

just need 1 more backliner for boss gimme a sec

[marsh birch]

what about gearing ?

[rancid pelican]

entreprise

[long crystal]

for now keep this fleet to level them a bit more

[rancid pelican]

ammo types still confuse me but im getting there

[sudden coyote]

just focus one set of ships at a time (or two if you're talking mob/boss) and progress the whole fleet till you're easily clearing w12-4, and then you will be leveling up other ships for fleet tech or whatever later. Not much is "wasted" in azur lane.

[long crystal]

didnt see enty but if u can get her then perfect

[rancid pelican]

i will soon

[rancid pelican]

okok Thats nice to hear

[long crystal]

if 9-1 is safe then this should be fine but l'aud could use some more levels

[rancid pelican]

its not safge I only cleared it once

[long crystal]

also MLB her and sara ASAP

[rancid pelican]

I will safe it first then

I cant level them all up

[long crystal]

then keep portland for now
get it to safe then swap in the lower level ships

keep 1-2 strong ships to carry em

[rancid pelican]

used like 300 books to make thgat comp

[long crystal]

yeah we level them in 9-1 with grind

[rancid pelican]

so like laffey

[long crystal]

not laffey

she is max already

[rancid pelican]

shes 125 yeah

mb

[long crystal]

portland unicorn is good enough I think

[rancid pelican]

unicorn deals a shit ton of damage

she managed to be mvp a couple times idk how

[long crystal]

unicorn strong

[rancid pelican]

but okay

[long crystal]

she has a preload
so she steals MVP a lot

[rancid pelican]

is sora safe at 54? WILL SHE GET HIT AT ALL?

sorry caps

[long crystal]

i think too underlevelled tbh but u can try it and see

[rancid pelican]

okay thanks

thank you all

so I should just foreget phoenix even tho she has huge base hp

comapred to laud

[long crystal]

for reference according to our resident tank expert mebot
pheonix and l'aud have the same effective HP

[rancid pelican]

wait what about helena?

[long crystal]

imo her level is fine

no need to raise her any more for now

[rancid pelican]

but phoenix heals no? her ehp is higher no?

[long crystal]

i am not sure he takes her heal into account tbh
we can ask him if he turns up later

[rancid pelican]

and I was leveling helena since she's good in boss no?

[weak lintel]

if you've got a good set up then Pheonix shouldn't be proccing her heal

[rancid pelican]

makes sense

[long crystal]

yeah but she is 97 now which is good enough for ch10
your other ships need xp more than her

[rancid pelican]

shes more for like zombies

[weak lintel]

and her heal is kind of her main selling point so if you're not using it well

[rancid pelican]

makes sense

okay im sold

I will level alld the ships u said

ggwp

thank you all once again

[long crystal]

no worries
once the map is safe it will be very easy to level them