#i hope last thread for me need help in 15-3/4
hidden knot
so far for me
but still after first fight with this heavy CV uni and pan are almost dead
my mob fleet dies when out of ammo in 15-3
overall i feel it is like i am missing something a bit but no clue
maybe just better gear
i hope last thread for me need help in 15-3/4
pearl gorge
what are you running for the support fleet among other things
hidden knot
pearl gorge
that's exactly what you used?
hidden knot
i have 6 ammo in subs at the start i dont use but later yea like
maybe i am doing something wrong or had bad luck
pearl gorge
be more liberal with their usage
call them in for the super CV nodes to kill them quicker
call them on out of ammo nodes as well
make sure you call them later so they don't surface before the battle ends
hidden knot
ok then i should use for super CV should i also debuff them with -10% to hp ?
pearl gorge
it won't work
pearl gorge
also do you have anymore Breguets or Wyverns
also how far off are you from tenrai number 2
hidden knot
hidden knot
also do you have anymore Breguets or Wyverns
nope have 5/9 for wyvern maybe in next month
digital trellis
guam should have the roomba over laffey there
faint snow
it won't work
wait u sure? i swear i saw the -10% red and i kept using it on them
hidden knot
breguets i can craft them ?
hidden knot
guam should have the roomba over laffey there
roomba :P?
pearl gorge
some adjustments
pearl gorge
that is one strategy yes
hidden knot
ok and which gear would be worth to +13 ?
pearl gorge
what gear do you have +13 already
pearl gorge
no
hidden knot
what gear do you have +13 already
none
pearl gorge
nothing at all?
digital trellis
sextuple is fine to +13
pearl gorge
okay so the +13 priority list doesn't revolve around campaign or W15 much if at all
hidden knot
but not gonna lie i didnt play too much opsi i started from last 2 month
i know shame but i didnt focus too much on it
pearl gorge
2 of these and the gun Soyuz has would be first priority for gun plates
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)
digital trellis
+13 soyuz gun, sextuple, white shells, BB radars/table at least
pearl gorge
for planes you would be looking at some Coverging Torpedo Bombers(Ryuusei, Ju-87ds, and Saiuns for planes) and then Bf-109Gs
for auxiliaries the table first
then some shells/fire control radars
for AA guns your 2 sextuples
hidden knot
some adjustments
then with this and some luck i should be able to clear it yea ?
pearl gorge
it should be able too yes
I think I'm more inclined to swap Soyuz and Alsace around though
digital trellis
it should be able too yes
does he have another twin 90mm, since you put 4 on there but he only had 3 equipped 
hidden knot
i should have
pearl gorge
well they have a Dev 30 Haku and Agir so most likely
also avoid BB nodes and merchant fleets like plague
hidden knot
yea i have 4x 90mm then no problem
it was on my old Unzen
i mean i dont know Unzen maybe could work on boss fleet hard to say
ok then will try tomorrow if not then will wait for new core data shop etc
hidden knot
would be that smart ?
i have one of this gun
?
and i guess i should run this gun on jeanne cuz i have it ?
digital trellis
would be that smart ?
no
these sandy recs are bad for a few reasons, and need fixing
if it's only between those two then definitely use the third gun
digital trellis
and i guess i should run this gun on jeanne cuz i have it ?
yeah that is fine for jeanne
hidden knot
then for sandy it should be more like this
ok boss fleet is for 100% good but hey i am doing it manual anyway
mob fleet is a bit of luck
i just see i am missing some sort of dmg
hidden knot
hmm
in 15-4 after 2x super cv fight
is painleve rly worth here ? like i could do some alternative ?
pearl gorge
you kinda need 2 healers for the mob fleet
I haven't really seen any successful alterantives
hidden knot
in both super CV i used sub in one i used this -10% debuff
pearl gorge
that one could practically pull off anyway
hidden knot
but still that dmg is so big
pearl gorge
the 10% debuff doesn't work on super CVs remember
hidden knot
ok but still look my fleet is rip
pearl gorge
try soyuz on mob and Alsace on boss instead
pearl gorge
yes
you might also want to consider some other improvements
you also actually called the subs in and didn't just have them passively debuff yes?
hidden knot
yea i just called them that all
i followed your build a bit
boss fleet is rly ok cuz i am doing manual
i mean in 15-3
pearl gorge
why the Ryuusseis on Shinano and Hakuryu
hidden knot
i know u posted other planes but for regu need to wait and this white one need to craft
but rly i dont see issue there for now
the main issue is mob fleet
hidden knot
but i guess mob fleet can kill 2 of them :P?
pearl gorge
when are you calling your subs in?
pearl gorge
so they surface before the battle ends?
hidden knot
i mean 2s to surface
hidden knot
i think i still luck AA power cuz backlline is in heavy dmg
maybe that second wyvern is the key
hidden knot
hmm
pearl gorge
you might want to consider pausing and waiting for some more upgrades
pearl gorge
independence's cross fleet wouldn't save your mob fleet
if you really want to try and improve your fleets
get Indomitable to 120 and consider getting Illustrious Muse and leveling her as well
use a 50/50 split of Fw-190 A5s and Skyrockets
hidden knot
pearl gorge
also, what cats are you using?
hidden knot
also, what cats are you using?
cats ?
pearl gorge
meowfficers
pearl gorge
at least use some
a cat with flame's aggression and mountain's tenacity is already a good boost
pearl gorge
https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4RgBjBWSBoCcUBsE4BZasVtAmaADgjUPT...
no
faint snow
you are ok with manualing a bit?
hidden knot
you are ok with manualing a bit?
i clear world 14 with manual xD under level ships
but in world 15 i found manual for boss is the best
cuz i can burn boss with full pack
then i guess i could manual the whole world 15 ?
pearl gorge
what would happen if i bring shimanto to mob fleet?
she would replace San Diego if you did that
you can if you want to
not sure how much that'll help though
faint snow
cause saving a salvo/2 airstrikes for the carrier pairs helps immensely in backline not getting oneshot on the special aviaton fleet
pearl gorge
also Mogador gun goes on San Diego not Laffey 2 among other things
hidden knot
then in theroy if i could manual i could swap this torpedo buble for more AA yea ?
pearl gorge
if you can dodge all the torps maybe
but there's a lot of them in W15
plus I think you're overestimating a bit just how much of a difference AA radars will make
pearl gorge
there's a couple of different ways you can approach it
for you, the best method would probably be to have the mob fleet take the first 2 bosses
hidden knot
ok it seems i will first do 15-3 to have 3 start and will try for some upgrades first
digital trellis
flapjack would make a significant difference if suchi's test is anything to go by, but it would be expensive
digital trellis
use a 50/50 split of Fw-190 A5s and Skyrockets
this makes sense in theory but suchi's practical testing had worse results than just all one plane type
pearl gorge
I've heard many different takes on that department so I can't really comment
digital trellis
it is odd. if i had to speculate, it might be because the denser waves are more able to outright shoot down some of the planes completely, which may be better than technically doing more total damage but not destroying as many planes
pearl gorge
either way
I don't really like reccomending all Flapjacks because it is so expensive and for relatively minor gains
digital trellis
it is hard to justify the cost yeah, since it's 6 plane slots of one particular world. does help quite a bit though, but very doable without
pearl gorge
definitely not
If this ship has a Fighter equipped in her second gear slot, whenever this ship launches an airstrike:
Heal the ship in the vanguard and the ship in main fleet who have the lowest percentage of remaining HP. Both ships are healed by 3.5% (8%) of their maximum HP.
Give each of those two ships an HP barrier. The barrier can block up to 1.5% (6%) of those ships' maximum HP and lasts for up to 5s.
illustruous simply cannot match that
hidden knot
i think i dont understand this on mob fleet he have 2x dds with shimanto
and he have less issue then me