#Help with making a 3rd or even a 4th squad

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royal tusk
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Hello guys, I just recently came back after like 235 days since I just wanted to play the game again,

and so I noticed that my 2 squads exhaust their "moods" fairly quick now when I want to grind/progress stages

So id appreciate if anyone can help me create a 3rd or 4th squad with my remaining ships since I am absolutely clueless when team building

Also if there's any adjustments or replacements that you think I should do on my 1st and 2nd teams that'd be cool too

Thanks and have a good day

silent stump
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so you want to progress campaign? what stage are you at

royal tusk
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Give me a sec
Il check

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i am currently at 11-1

silent stump
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alright

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first thing i'll say is don't use unicorn and perseus at the same time

royal tusk
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thought so too

silent stump
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second thing, for world 11 you want your flagship to be a battleship or battlecruiser, preferably a battleship

crimson storm
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You need a mob tank and should get an alternative to Perseus.

For boss you should swap Portland and Helena around

silent stump
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third thing the boss nodes in world 11 are all light armor except 11-2, so battleships with HE guns have a higher damage potential in those stages, though some of the bosses also annoyingly move around a bunch

royal tusk
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do you guys recommend a 3rd team with my current box?

crimson storm
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Focus on 2 fleets before touching a 3rd

silent stump
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(unless you have a lot of rocket fighers, in which case those are a good option)

royal tusk
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when do you think i should go for a 3rd?

silent stump
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well you say you are running out of morale so well, do you have the mob fleet on dorm?

royal tusk
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yes i do

crimson storm
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Unfortunately you could only wait , especially since your two fleets aren't even that well built in the first place

royal tusk
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i see i see, any more advice for the 2 current fleets or improvements that i can implement aside from separating unicorn and perseus

crimson storm
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You need a mob tank , right now they are only really cruising because of high level

royal tusk
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i've no idea who is a suitable mob tank that i have rn

thoughts?

crimson storm
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By this point you should have started anchorage and agir , but since you are quite early on in the game , Sandy with augment should be fine

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You also have Minneapolis I guess

royal tusk
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currently on izumo

silent stump
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you could also possibly use sakawa i guess

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and jervis if you wanted to MLB her

royal tusk
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noob question how do i get more techpoints for pr ships to unlock?

silent stump
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acquiring ships of the faction gives certain amount of points, MLBing them gives a large amount of points, and leveling them to 120 gives a sizable amount

crimson storm
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Sakawa is pretty squishy

silent stump
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higher ehp than portland on the charts 🤷

royal tusk
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so overall do i go with sakawa or jervis for a mobtank?

silent stump
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i mean

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jervis is quite good

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but you would need to MLB

royal tusk
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i think i can

silent stump
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also obviously they are way lower levle than rest of the fleet atm

royal tusk
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i also have a ton of exp books

silent stump
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so it's up to you if you want to actually MLB or just try to stick with what you already have leveled and MLBd

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also, skills of course

royal tusk
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who do i replace jervis with in my fleet again

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sandy?

crimson storm
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Preferably one of your dds

silent stump
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sandy should ddefinitely stay in whatever you are using

crimson storm
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Sandy is kinda busted right now especially with augment

royal tusk
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im so sorry im so clueless when it comes to acronyms

crimson storm
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Dd= destroyer

royal tusk
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ohh then z23 ?

crimson storm
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One of your starter destroyers can be swapped out

silent stump
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which one goes probably doesn't matter much

royal tusk
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ok i like laffy better so z23 then

silent stump
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do any of them have augs made? gotta ask

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cuz if one does and the other doesn't that obviously would have influenced it

royal tusk
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laffy has a huggy pillow of bravery

silent stump
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keep her then

royal tusk
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z23 hasa placeholder one

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gotta ask tho, thoughts on my main fleet?

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the one with unicorn and perseus is my mob fleet

silent stump
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well we established you should replace perseus

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musashi should go to mob flag here

royal tusk
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and perseus to main then?

silent stump
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the bosses are light and the most dangerous enemies in W11 are battleships on mobs

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perseus on boss is... probably better not

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do you have any rocket fighters

royal tusk
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whats the acronym for that one ill filter it

silent stump
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you mean the gear name?

royal tusk
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o mb

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lemme check

silent stump
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there are two rocket fighters you might have

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messerschmitt Bf 109G and grummann f6f hellcat (HVAR-mounted)

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if you want to use carriers on boss, these will help

royal tusk
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oh the planes

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well unicorn has a sea hornet
perseus has atype 0 fighter model 52
and tbf avenger

is that it?

silent stump
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no i am asking if you have the fighters above

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you know, fighters for the fighter slot

royal tusk
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no dont have them checked inventory and units

silent stump
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alright

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probably better to have 3 battleships or 2 battleships and 1 carrier for the boss then

royal tusk
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Ill get back in a sec and check if it's craftable since I have a lot that's available to craft

silent stump
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i guess you could use something like seydlitz/hood/howe for 11-1/11-3/11-4 bosses

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for your carrier alongside musashi and uni in mob, you could just use implacable i guess, she's typically a bossing ship but since you don't have the gears to make her better against light might as well use her on mob

royal tusk
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alright i'll try these

any advice on how to get good gears?

silent stump
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best gear is tied to operation siren and events

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but there is good gear you can use that isn't tied to either

royal tusk
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damn
siren is so boring for me no choice ig

silent stump
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well also research

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the research stuff ends up on gear lab after a certain amount of time

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same with some of the good event gear

royal tusk
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gotcha i'll focus on these

silent stump
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but well you should understand what gear is good where

royal tusk
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can you give me a basic rundown if you dont mind

silent stump
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and which of the gear that you have right now that you should use too

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uh sure

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i'll talk about main fleet first since the numbers are more straightforward there

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when it comes to battleship guns, you can basically split them into two groups: HE guns and AP guns. HE guns are good against light, alright against medium, and not too great against heavy. there is one very accessible HE gun that is one of the best and that you should use, the triple 406mm MK6. you can use this as the "default" on battleships until you acquire better guns

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as for AP, they excel against medium and heavy, but are very bad against light. the shells also pierce through enemies. there isn't really any easily acquireable good AP guns though

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typically on mob fleets you want to use AP because of the pierce and the most dangerous enemies typically being medium/heavy armor, but it's fine to use the MK6 if you don't have good AP guns

royal tusk
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i appreciate your easy to understand explanation

do people generally change gears when entering a new/differnet stage on any game mode?

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kinda like changing students in blue archive if yk

silent stump
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we adapt the gears to the stages yes

royal tusk
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ahhh, thats really tedious but it makes sense

silent stump
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anyway i kinda wrote too much just for battleship guns

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for battleship secondaries, they can serve two purposes: interception (basically, destroying the bomb boats), or just used as an FP booster

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if you need interception you can use the purple twin 152mm AP gun for now, it works well enough. if you just want the FP you might have a bunch of triple 155mm HE for that. these are light cruiser guns, but some battleships and battlecruisers can't equip these and can only equip destroyer guns. they are not very good at interception and should be avoided if you really need to intercept

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in world 11 we have bomb boats, so using the twin 152mm is good around here

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for battleship AA guns, it's pretty straightforward: you always use either Hazemeyer or STAAG. battleships are not meant to pull the weight for AA and these two guns give accuracy stat which is more important

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you can get those from research or gear lab (better to get them from research)

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now battleship auxilliaries

royal tusk
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i was gonna say thanks but go on please lmao

silent stump
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there are basically 2 types of them that are important: shells and radars

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the gold shells are acquired on the core data shop

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radars are from research

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(i should clarify it is the high-performance radar and not any others)

royal tusk
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noted

silent stump
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white shell and radars give a lot of firepower and accuracy, which is very good for battleships. black shell gives a ton of firepower but usually you use either a white shell and a radar or a white shell and a black shell; the white shell almost always is the one staying

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the radars also decrease the cooldown of the first volley by 15%

royal tusk
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finally i understand those shells i've just been throwing them out

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on random ships

silent stump
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as for the augments, it's kinda fine to just use sword all the time, but you may use bow if you know that missing is unlikely or when fighting heavy armor enemies

royal tusk
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i'll analyze everything you said, didnt know gearing would be so indepth for this booba game or maybe im just dumb af

silent stump
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well battleships are honestly pretty straightforward

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it's even more complex for carriers

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well, the auxilliaries for carriers are actually straightforward

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most of the time it's just two catapults

royal tusk
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i really do appreciate you taking your time typing all this, cant say id be able to do so for others
thanks

silent stump
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in particular scenarios we use homing beacon to speed up airstrikes or elite manjuu to slow down airstrikes, either to adjust syncing on boss fleets, or to desync

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basically, depending on the stage, we might want all our damage to come out at once, or we might want to try to "stagger" the damage so that it is more evenly distributed across time

royal tusk
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i see i see and i guess its normal to ask for help when doing a new stage?

silent stump
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well if we don't know anything about the stage it's better to ask or do some research on the wiki

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alright i will explain planes now

royal tusk
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go ahead please

silent stump
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i'll start with dive bombers because there's only really one type of them with only one notable exception

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dive bombers drop several bombs in a large area which explode with a large radius, and therefore can deal damage to clusters of enemies easily. their damage is higher against enemies with heavier armor, and weaker against light. against lone enemies, they fall off a bit because the bombs are not very accurate and can drop a significant distance away and miss

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you could say that dive bombers are decent in mobs

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and therefore ships with dive bomber oriented loadouts will be more suited for stages with a lot of enemies

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now i'll talk about fighters since a lot of them are similar to dive bombers

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fighters for the most part are similar to dive bombers in how they drop bombs, but less of them. however, they have better machine guns (i should have mentioned this early but basically all planes have machine guns which they use to shoot down enemy planes).

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they also do what we call fighter interception; carriers with fighters will automatically launch some fighters every so often and these fighters will intercept enemy planes, but they will not drop bombs, only fighters launched from an airstrike trigger will drop bombs

royal tusk
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what do you reccomend an average carrier(?) to go with fighter or dive bomber or mix of both?

silent stump
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the damage from fighter bombs is similar to dive bombers. better against heavy, weaker against light

royal tusk
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i guess it also depends on the stage?

silent stump
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well that depends on the stage

royal tusk
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ye thought so

silent stump
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i'll get to that in a bit

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so that is how the vast majority of the fighters work but there is a couple of exceptions, which are the rocket fighters

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basically they are fighters that launch rockets. these rockets are aimed directly at enemies, and generally can only deal damage to one enemy. they can deal great damage against lone enemies that are light and medium armored; they are not good against heavy (with one exception but it doesn't matter right now)

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they also cannot intercept, so if you need to shoot down a lot of enemy planes, they should not be used

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rocket fighters are therefore typically used only in the boss fleet against light and medium armor enemies

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now, i'll explain torpedo bombers

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there's two types of them: parallel torpedo bombers and converging torpedo bombers

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parallel torpedo bombers drop torpedoes just like that, parallel to eachother going directly ahead

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these are solid against mobs where all of the torpedoes are probably going to hit something

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like dive bombers they also deal higher damage against heavier armor types. so they're kinda similar to dive bombers in their purpose

royal tusk
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should i also pay as much attention to gearing my subs as i do with regular ones?

silent stump
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subs are complicated and you basically need to check a chart to know what to put on them ideally

royal tusk
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ok ok got it

silent stump
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i would say to not care too much about subs right now

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if you have good ones, then leave them on dorm to level them up

royal tusk
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i have I-13 only

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and I-58 so ig ill focus on the main fleet for now

silent stump
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well lemme finish explaining torp bombers first

royal tusk
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ok ok go ahead

silent stump
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so since they are similar, i'll mention something about parallel torp bombers vs dive bombers since you might be wondering about that. dive bombers basically set their target when they are launched, and if the enemy happens to be destroyed before the dive bomber drops their bombs, then they might drop their bombs on top of nothing and kinda waste it. parallel torp bombers don't have much of this problem because enemies spawn far back and the torps move slow and are not aimed at anything in particular, so they are almost always gonna hit something. but you could say that's the tradeoff for not being able to hit a lot of enemies with one torp unlike dive bombers and their bomb

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it's not too important to know this unless you are playing manual, but if you are now you know

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dive bombers also tend to aim for the nearest enemy so there's that

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now for the last thing about planes: converging torpedo bombers

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they are torpedo bombers that drop their torps specifically towards an enemy. think of it like the torp version of the rocket fighters

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their total damage output is lower than contemporary parallel torpedo bombers. you want to use these specifically against heavier armored targets that are not moving or are very slowed down

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if you use them against moving targets then it's very likely that all the torps will just miss

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there are certain ships with skills that slow down or freeze the enemies so that all these torps can hit, making them better than parallel torpedo bombers in this boss fleet context

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all of the japanese and german torpedo bombers are the ones with converging torps, whereas all the other ones are parallel, with just one exception recently added to the game

royal tusk
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ye i'll need a bit of time to fully digest all this nontheless thanks for all this info, this is the most ive gotten from the years of asking in this discord thanks

if you have more helpful info that you think people or i should know go ahead if you dont mind

silent stump
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while you might get away with using rocket fighters against enemies that aren't slowed, torps just move a bit too slow for that

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so they absolutely need to be slowed or frozen

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now i will say where fighters are actually important

royal tusk
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sure go ahead

silent stump
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the answer is basically, world 12 to some extent, world 13 to a large extent, and world 15 it's what the stages are all about (massive plane spam)

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since you are on world 11, good anti-air guns and using carriers that have fighter-oriented loadouts isn't really important (only if you wanted to use rocket fighters for the light armor bosses)

royal tusk
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how significant do you think purple gear are if you dont have any higher tier gears atm

and would they be viable regardless if you do have some higher tier ones

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since i am very lacking when it comes to gold ones and above

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all my main units have on average maybe one or two gold gear

silent stump
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the gear rarity is a bit of a trap

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there's really bad gold gear and really solid purple gear

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the triple 406mm MK6 i mentioned before is just a purple gear, but it is still one of the better HE battleship guns

royal tusk
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what are the majority good purple gear that most players would have

silent stump
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i can tell you which commonly available gears are good though

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for battleships, you're mainly gonna stick with the MK6 because the common AP guns are just bad

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for their secondaries the royal navy purple twin 152mm AP is a pretty good interception gun, and the japanese gold triple gold 155mm is good for just FP filler

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if you don't yet have gold shells, there is a weaker purple version of the white shell

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for carriers, auxes you can just slap catapults, gold ones if you have them, and purple drop tanks/catapults if you don't have the gold catapults

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also for carrier auxes i forgot to mention, basically scepter if no planes, can use bow if there's a lot of planes

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now for carrier planes:

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F4U corsair is the best purple fighter

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for gold ones, there's a bunch of usable ones: seafang, hellcat, reppuu are all interchangeable for the most part but hellcat will be better if you need the stronger machine guns

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for parallel torpedo bombers, gold barracuda is commonly available and a decent option. if you don't have them you'll have to use the purple TBF avenger

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there is no readily acquireable gold converging torpedo bomber, nor rocket fighter for that matter. you will need to get them from either gear lab, research or events depending on which one exactly

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however you can use tenzans for purple converging torpedo bombers and they are pretty close in power to the gold ones

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well i say this but you might already have some of this gear if you look

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for dive bombers, you will be using the purple helldiver for the rest of time basically

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the only better options are the gold helldiver, which is only very very marginally better and not worth the cost, and the tenrai, which is a rainbow gear and therefore hard to obtain in large quantities

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this is only the gear that is obtainable from tech boxes basically. you might have some better options in some categories depending on what kinda research you've done or if you've built something from gear lab or farmed some event/war archives

royal tusk
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this is pretty reminiscent of an anime scene where someone explains stuff and my brain is smoking lmfao

silent stump
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i mentioned the gear by name but i guess you might not know which gear is which without looking at it

royal tusk
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but i do wann ask, do the average long-ish time player have a variety of rainbow gear?

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like where im currently at at the game

silent stump
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it depends on how hard they want to focus on gear specifically when they're doing research, and also how much they do opsi

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to be fair, because of the file zones in opsi, you can get a wyvern within the first two months of playing

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and that's the best parallel torpedo bomber

royal tusk
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hmm i see
ive been wanting to play the game for real for a bit now as well
so i think ill be grinding for the next few days depending on the gear huh

silent stump
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did you do any opsi for this month

royal tusk
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thats a no, because i literally just redownloaded yesterday after 230 days-ish which the game said

silent stump
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i see

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hm

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this is a bit of a problem

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i presume you have not yet completed the opsi story before

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and we are almost at the monthly reset

royal tusk
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yes because i remember only doing the campaign way back when i used to play a lot

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how bad would it hurt if i dont do it and just wait at the start of next month

silent stump
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check opsi and tell me if you have any exchange vouchers

royal tusk
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ok gimme a sec

silent stump
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it really would be for the better if you cleared the entire opsi story before the end of the month

royal tusk
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actually i think i did a bit of opsi back then lemme check

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where can i see my amount of exchange vouchers?

silent stump
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basically, before you clear the opsi story, opsi is essentially stuck in the old shop format which makes it a pain to buy what you want

royal tusk
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if its coins i have 8,700

silent stump
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so in the main opsi view there is a button on the bottom left

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that says "exchange shop"

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do you see it

royal tusk
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can you see it on the world overview?

silent stump
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does it look like this for you (i don't recall if this looks different before you clear the opsi campaign)

royal tusk
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ye its not there only collections

silent stump
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i see

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i guess it's not there before you clear the opsi campaign

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that's a bit of a problem.

royal tusk
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you think i can clear it before the reset?

silent stump
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possibly...

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it would require a good bit of attention though

royal tusk
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i woudnt mind doing so since i cant really progress further with the event

silent stump
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why not?

royal tusk
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would attention mean doing manual?

silent stump
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i'm not sure. it depends on what is the absolute strongest single fleet you can manage with your current ships/gear

royal tusk
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ok since we are on the topic of opsi how do you normally progress within the map since im really confused about that

silent stump
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there's a lot of easy stuff at the start though

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so basically you can go to the zones that are adjacent to the ports you can access

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if i recall right you only start on the port on the left at first, iirc campaign lets you go on some of the ports on the right the further you complete

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when you clear a zone, you can go to adjacent zones to that zone

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the higher the corrosion level of the zone, the more dangerous it is

royal tusk
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ah ok ok i can see it better now

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btw can you change ships ?

silent stump
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the "adaptability" that you have is basically a damage nerf to the enemies

royal tusk
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im looking at the fleet but i dont think i can

silent stump
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you have a maximum reduction of 30% IIRC

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the exact numbers you need depend on the corrosion level and some specific zones need different

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you can change fleet by clicking on the "order" button and then clicking fleet redeployment

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you need to be at a port to do that

royal tusk
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if a zone says secured can i consider that done/complete?

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but at the same time it has stars and the ones that i think i completed i only have like 2

silent stump
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yes

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don't worry about the stars

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you should also use your highest level cats on your fleet because that's important for the rewards from the meowfficer nodes

royal tusk
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ok got it

silent stump
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i guess we should establish what fleet you should be using

royal tusk
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of course go ahead

silent stump
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honestly i don't remember exactly how hard campaign gets as its been a while

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i think you may or may not have to clear the arbiter at the end

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if you need to clear the arbiter, it will require a lot of retreating and healing

royal tusk
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is the arbiter at opsi or normal campaign

silent stump
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arbiter is basically the final boss of opsi

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it's the enemy at the center of the map

royal tusk
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gotcha

silent stump
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however the normal difficulty arbiter saves your progress, so every little bit of damage sticks even if you lose

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so even with a relatively weak fleet, if you have enough coins for healing, you can do as many battles as you want until it dies

royal tusk
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kinda like raids in BA thats cool

silent stump
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considering the stuff you have leveled and MLB, the strongest fleet you can put up for now is probably something like... musashi/unicorn/implacable + san diego/helena/kawakaze

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the vanguard is a bit squishy but you don't have an extra leveled good tank ready so it may just be better to bank on someone who can deal decent damage against everything like kawakaze

royal tusk
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ohhh thats really helpful, ive been thinking for a bit with your info in mind about what fleet i can go with

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what second fleet would you recommend?

silent stump
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the fleet will struggle a little bit against light armor because all the main fleet only really will deal good damage against medium and heavy unless you have rocket fighters

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hmm perhaps you can use enterprise instead of implacable actually. if you are willing to reset for the bosses

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really just grab the rest of your leveled stuff and put it on the other fleet for now

royal tusk
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i understand sure

silent stump
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if implacable and enty aren't in one fleet then they should be in the other, etc

royal tusk
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should they be put together in a fleet you mean?

silent stump
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fill up with boats like hood, seydlitz, howe, monarch, and the leveled vanguards like emden, portland, Z23/laffey

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emden does have synergy with seydlitz and with hood that's something to maybe help with light fleets

silent stump
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well it kind of depends, do you have rocket fighters?

royal tusk
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the planes right?

silent stump
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musashi/implacable/enterprise would make for a decent main fleet for bosses specifically, but the fleet you are going to use most of the time is going to be whatever fleet has unicorn in it

royal tusk
silent stump
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maybe you can try that main fleet with the vanguard i mentioned before to go all out on damage, then use your remaining level 110+ on another fleet with unicorn. like seydlitz/hood/unicorn + emden/Z23/laffey or something. or you may be fine using perseus+unicorn if you manual though it's not recommended normally but you are lacking in ships and you might need a lot of healing with your levels

silent stump
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also since implacable can freeze the enemies the carriers can and should be using the converging torpedo bombers for bosses

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implacable can also use torpedo bombers on her second slot (and also dive bombers, but if you are using her for bossing you're gonna use torpedo bombers)

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maybe you can set these fleets and, if your fleet with unicorn is getting chipped down a bit, you can come in with the big bossing fleet for a couple of fights and heal it for just a little bit on ports later

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though you do have to keep two fleets geared like that

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you should have helldivers laying around somewhere, you should use that as the dive bomber

royal tusk
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ig this is good for now?

silent stump
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fighters that launch rockets, there's only two of them i'm guessing you don't have them

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well there's three but no one has the last one yet

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actually there's 4, but one is irrelvant

royal tusk
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name me one just in case

silent stump
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so if you don't have the messerschmitt Bf 109G nor the Grummann F6F Hellcat (HVAR) then you don't have them

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the latter was from yorktown 2 event. since you don't have her, you don't have that i guess

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the former is from PR4 research

royal tusk
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ye i def dont have them lol

silent stump
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alright

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then you should be using either hellcats/seafangs/reppuus or corsairs. they have the same bombs, so they deal the same damage technically, but the corsair is technically very slightly inferior because it gives less AVI stat as it's purple

royal tusk
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ok i def have those so i'll look out for em

silent stump
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actually i had forgotten that purples do have a lower tier of bomb despite being the same weight so it is actually a little inferior on the damage as well

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do use those 3 gold planes if possible. if not, then corsair, if you don't have corsair you can use the purple variants of the gold planes mentioned

royal tusk
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ill keep that in mind since those are the majority that i have

silent stump
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for converging torp bombers you may have tenzan

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definitely use that on implacable, and enterprise if she's on the same fleet

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musashi is a bit of a special case. you actually do not want to use the 406mm MK6 on her because she really wants to equip a japanese gun so that her barrage deals much more damage

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the most convenient option for you is the purple twin 410mm

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maybe just maybe you have izumo gun if you've done PR1 in the past

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if so then you may want to use that instead. especially since it stays in sync with helena better

royal tusk
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unfortunately no since im still currently on izumo i am close to completing it tho

silent stump
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well you don't need izumo for the izumo gun or anything.

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it's just a gun you can get by acquiring blueprints from PR1

royal tusk
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ahh how do i check

silent stump
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if you have taken PR1 researches before, you may have enough to build it

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in fact

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you should just screenshot all the gold gear that you can make

royal tusk
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gimme a sec

silent stump
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so yeah i think i would go musashi/implacable/enterprise there and just ditch perseus entirely

royal tusk
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There's also a lot of purple craftables do you want that as well incidentally?

silent stump
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or move her to the other fleet but you would need to play manual because 3 airstrikes at the start of the battle isn't good

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alright, there's the izumo gun

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and also ryuuseis and STAAGs

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ok so, the gun that you have 67 prints of, make one of that

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then make the rectangular looking gun at the bottom of the second image

royal tusk
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is the prototype triple 410? izumo gun?

silent stump
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yes

royal tusk
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ok

silent stump
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make twin 40mm bofors STAAG

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and also Aichi B7A Ryuusei

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you can also make High Performance Hydraulic Rudder, that will be useful for some vanguards

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and make the gold catapult if you don't already have enough

royal tusk
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i guess i put all these crafted gears on the fleet you suggested then?

silent stump
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izumo and STAAG on musashi

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ryuusei on... enterprise if she's lucky. lol

royal tusk
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gotcha

silent stump
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we may want to get a couple more of these for the other fleet but we'll see

royal tusk
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damn your really helping me out huh thanks

silent stump
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izumo gun and ryuusei you should enhance to +10 right away

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also just any planes you will be using really

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auxilliaries are a bit less important to +10 but still important

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do you have tenzans for implacable?

royal tusk
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no i do not have any tenzans

silent stump
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hm

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check if you can build some, they are purple after all

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if not, then try to open a few purple sakura tech boxes if you have some lying around

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or open boxes first. i guess that might be better

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the full plane name is nakajima B6N tenzan suppose i should make that clear

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i've been using shortened names for the planes instead of the full name. maybe i should be using the full name

royal tusk
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oh i just opened some and i got the tenzan

silent stump
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alright, you should get two of them

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since implacable can equip two

royal tusk
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nice i have 2 now

silent stump
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did you check if you have SB2C helldivers?

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for the dive bomber slot

royal tusk
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on the crafting screen?

silent stump
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in this case, enterprises

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well check if you have any and if you don't, craft or open eagle union boxes

royal tusk
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i can make 2

silent stump
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you can make the two or go open boxes if you want. i mean if you have a lot of boxes might as well open them

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we only need 1 for enterprise, we don't need another for now but there will come a point where you will need more than one dive bomber

royal tusk
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i just checked and apparently i have 8 tenzans smh

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and i have 4 helldivers

silent stump
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all good then

royal tusk
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does it also go on implacable?

silent stump
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no, implacable will be using fighter/torp bomber/torp bomber

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as we are gearing this for boss

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so just to make this clear, it's gonna be musashi/implacable/enterprise + san diego/helena/kawakaze for our most damaging fleet

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i think it's better to do it this way and use this fleet as backup if the other starts to get worn down a bit

royal tusk
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should i really go with a tenzan when i have a +8 barracuda?

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gold

silent stump
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tenzan is the way to go because we are gonna be using this for the enforcer fights and whatnot later on when we get there

royal tusk
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ok ok

silent stump
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well i would give even better advice but really i don't remember all of campaign all that well

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but if you have one super strong fleet, then you can use it to take down one or two troublesome fights

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and heal up on port or with packs

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and use the other fleet for the rest

royal tusk
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ok then i'll go over the rest of the stuff that you said and then ill go opsi

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i'll update you on it since you put so much effort here lol

silent stump
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well i told ya how to gear main fleet basically

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i didn't say much about vanguard so i'll do that a bit

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in terms of auxilliaries we are just gonna want to maximize our survivability here and it's kinda straightforward for that

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for destroyers simply go toolbox + another toolbox or anything that has similar HP to a toolbox, the more the better

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for light cruisers we want toolbox + rudder

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for heavy cruisers it's either toolbox + rudder or beaver badge + rudder

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you can make and put this on helena, i doubt you have better

royal tusk
silent stump
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something with those other ships i mentioned. something like hood/unicorn/seydlitz + portland/laffey or Z23/emden

royal tusk
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ahhh will do

silent stump
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i would put a fast gun on hood like the purple twin 410mm

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because her shelling damage is kinda bad and to desync damage a bit

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and put the MK6 on seydlitz

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i assume your hood has her augment

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and i also assume kawakaze also does

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also, about kawakaze

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you should be using the blue 76mm as her main gun

royal tusk
silent stump
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and for san diego, you should use whatever shoots fast and still strong (i assume you also have her augment)

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yes

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the gold augments are their unique augments

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i think it'd be good if you could just screenshot your destroyer/light cruiser/heavy cruiser guns tbh

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by clicking on that slot and then just screenshotting what guns are there

royal tusk
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in the depot or should i go one by one with the ships?

silent stump
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it should be fine to just click a ship's gun slot and screenshot what is there

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in the depot you can't see anything that's equipped

royal tusk
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Is this it, it's under laffey's

silent stump
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that helps, well it's your AA guns/torps/destroyer guns

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if you could screenshot your light cruiser guns and your heavy cruiser guns as well, that'd help

royal tusk
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can you just specify what ship i go in sorry lol

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like sandy?

silent stump
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helena main gun for light cruiser guns

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portland main gun for heavy cruiser guns

royal tusk
silent stump
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alright

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so there's a couple things you can do

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you can make the gun i posted above and put that on helena or emden

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you can go open a few iron blood boxes to see if you can get a purple twin 150mm tbtsk to use on the one that doesn't have that

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for portland, just use the first gold gun

royal tusk
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alright ill go do that

silent stump
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it looks really weak but there is a reason for using this

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there are a few ships, namely sakura destroyers, that have really bad firepower/main gun efficiency but they have powerful all-out-assaults that do things such as shoot torps which naturally scale off of their torpedo stat

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so in those ships you don't want to use a gun with good damage, you just want to use a gun that fires fast

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and kawakaze is one of such ships

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well you can open purple boxes as well

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do specifically get the blue version of this gun

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actually that's an eagle union gun, my bad

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so you have to open EU boxes

royal tusk
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ok gotcha thankfully i have a lot in stock

silent stump
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you do have kawakaze augment right

royal tusk
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prolly not but ill just craft it

silent stump
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you should

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san diego has her augment?

royal tusk
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ye gonna be a while tho running out of money lol

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nope

silent stump
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she also absolutely needs it

royal tusk
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same for her no money

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ye i'll prio that

silent stump
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well it makes a big difference

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in terms of the torps ships use...

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for auto, people tend to use the gold quad mag torps