#Scoopy's Thread
wanton pier
covert panther
is haku d25
covert panther
fdg uvh alsace - eugen helena mogador
shinano avp enty - guam hatsu unzen
monarch ark saratoga - laffey2 ty sandy
hood owari nj - adalbert anshan rika
covert panther
u can, but idk if fdg is fs5 and then it fights for flag with monarch or hood
marsh obsidian
FDG not being flag without her fate sim is a relatively minor difference
especially on bossing
jovial field
Fdg is maxed out
covert panther
then swap nj and fdg
i feel like nj to fdg swap is also a relatively minor difference
jovial field
bc from guides i checked on youtube it was on side lines for cross fleets
covert panther
who was
marsh obsidian
genuine question, how do you have a Hindenburg gun
jovial field
just a min i will ss my opsi 😅
covert panther
its not rly needed
marsh obsidian
what is your research focus set to currently?
jovial field
covert panther
yea its a mess
jovial field
Fleet no3 was for exp farm and usually fleet 1 was used on bosses
Well i couldnt find any proper guide about building fleets
marsh obsidian
there's one https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding
jovial field
what is your research focus set to currently?
On 7, nearly done with 1 ship, ~70% saw som1 recently in chats also talking in regards of fleets so was thinking when i finish to set on 4 to get haku maxed
dusty wyvern
0 tenrais or am i blind 
?
marsh obsidian
On 7, nearly done with 1 ship, ~70% saw som1 recently in chats also talking in r...
how many Blueprints do you have for the PR7 and 4 ships exactly
also what's your research focus set to and what does your research queue look like currently
dusty wyvern
impressed how u managed to hit 50x 
marsh obsidian
you need something a bit more indepth than that
covert panther
no its for general campaigning below w13 and only orientative to not catastrophically fail
covert panther
and sams research guide aswell
marsh obsidian
dusty wyvern
i d like u to screenshot the depot TBH
marsh obsidian
I'm still genuinely baffled and curious as to what your process for research has been
dusty wyvern
this is the shipyard
marsh obsidian
okay this isn't brilliant
you really want to get Anchorage unlocked ASAP so you can start coining her up
Agir also has enough blueprints to be in a usable state as well
also about the PR6 ships
jovial field
dusty wyvern
after setting up everything
ships gear research and shipyard
we kinda have a talk about cats too 
marsh obsidian
not really
covert panther
stay in pr6 and finish kear then u can swap to pr4
marsh obsidian
one print off lamo
jovial field
after setting up everything
ships gear research and shipyard
we kinda have a t...
tbh no idea how cat works, i mainly use the ones according to fleets im using
dusty wyvern
is kear worth the tenrai sacrifice 
covert panther
one print off lamo
marsh obsidian
but yeah, get the one blueprint you need to dev 30 her and go back to PR4 asap
dusty wyvern
will he have enough gear to hit the boss with CVs ?
marsh obsidian
also, there's the off chance you just got really lucky but I think you need to reevaluate your choice of researches
refer to the appropriate section in the research guide for that
marsh obsidian
will he have enough gear to hit the boss with CVs ?
I don't think it'll matter too much with 5 UR BBs
jovial field
refer to the appropriate section in the research guide for that
the last catch up im available to take is from 3 and thats all it shows prio was set to 7 but now since i was told i put to 6 to get that one for Kaersarge
marsh obsidian
not quite sure I got all of that
but are you just not taking face researches for the PRs
covert panther
switch focus all over the place is sub optimal
u end up in this position of having many unfished ships that lack the big boost to distinguish them from ur other options
marsh obsidian
and just taking Qs and Gs if you don't see a DR face research
jovial field
but are you just not taking face researches for the PRs
taking face ones and if i dont get any im choosing one with lowest time for gear
marsh obsidian
you should be taking face researches for the PRs because some of them like Shimanto are quite good and every time you max a ship from a season their face researches will get knocked from the pool
temporarily until the entire season is maxed
jovial field
you should be taking face researches for the PRs because some of them like Shima...
oh, didnt know it dissapears
marsh obsidian
yeah that's why you usually want to finish one season before moving onto the next
for your though PR4 takes higher priority so PR6 will just remain incomplete for the time being
dusty wyvern
fdg uvh alsace - eugen helena mogador
shinano avp enty - guam hatsu unzen
monarc...
then the CV should be knocked out right 
? and be replaced with his best BBs ?
and abuse the uvh top with guam
covert panther
already using their best bbs
marsh obsidian
bold of you to assume they can kill with just 2 fleets
dusty wyvern
the idea was to maximize the damage from 2 fleets so hopefully the rest can do 10x
jovial field
bold of you to assume they can kill with just 2 fleets
thats true 😅 with current ones i showed it took me 3 fleets on auto to easy, but seems manual was the way , now checking that site to rebuild
covert panther
well maximizing is good but we should try to maximze the dmg among the 4 fleets
mby if no rocket planes in sight and poverty tb guam can swap with eugen for bb
dusty wyvern
i think with that amount of pr4 investment he can have 2 bf 109
covert panther
i also think the same
dusty wyvern
he seems like he knows what he is picking at least 
he might be close to get a tenrai too
is there a duration to the armor break ?
covert panther
usually 6s
dusty wyvern
6s 
jovial field
he seems like he knows what he is picking at least <:AkagiLUL:531988392699887616...
the way im picking is kinda hm, how to say i take ship girls i like, even now my owari is sitting in top spot, usually comp i do with her is Owari flagship, shinano, alsace, unzen,helena laffey 2
dusty wyvern
oh when u want to tackle a challenging content it will add a layer of difficulty
which means someone needs to really know what they are doing
in order to clear it
that is why it is better to stick with the best fleet comps that ur account can make 
jovial field
that the problem, bc since i could not any guides how and what have synergies, was reading skills a bit , but in the end i chose what i see fit, somehow it worked, just opsi cant kill hard boss
also didnt tackle campain gonna try 14-1 after event ends for vanguard
full sandal
14-1 and 14-2 are pretty doable, but it ramps up seriously at 14-3 and 14-4 depending on how fast you want to get the third star
jovial field
u can do 14-1
not the latter ones
well when i was doing 13 stage it wasnt that big of a challenge
dusty wyvern
14-3 and 14-4 are insanely harder than 14-1
marsh obsidian
difficulty does not ramp up linearly in the main campiagn
w13 to W14 is suddenly going from a gentle climb to a 1/45 climb
full sandal
14-3 especially is particularly hard due to the high amount of 3* enemy nodes and no ammo node
jovial field
i wouldnt go for it, but i need gems to get doc space, 410 and i have 370 filled
marsh obsidian
and W14 to W15 is to the equivalent of trying to go up a cliff face
especially if you're not prepared
jovial field
not going to touch 15 dont know that much about game to afford it
full sandal
you do have the boats to beat world 14 though most likely
just need to put on a bit more levels
and have some of the necessary gear
jovial field
he's pretty set if he gears properly
i do gear my ships from here https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/dd
jovial field
no agir anchorage jda
laffey 2 was tanking everything so far like a champ
full sandal
he has guam and laff anyway
dusty wyvern
i do gear my ships from here https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/dd
this isn't a good source to know what u want to put on ur ships
full sandal
unzen is prob pretty good for mobs too, and fdg is half of the way to beating world 14 herself
marsh obsidian
they need another competent tank
dusty wyvern
these ships will melt against the bosses
if u want to put laff on mob and leave guam on boss
i was doing it with a massive wall of tanks and still was sketchy 
marsh obsidian
Mob: FDG, Unicorn, Saratoga, Laffey 2, Mogador, San Diego
Boss: Alsace, Shinano, Enterprise, Guam, Unzen, Anchorage
something like that
dusty wyvern
can u screenshot all ur depot ?
exculde the blues
jovial field
but how should ik which are good tanks, bc if that web i linked is not good
dusty wyvern
i asked this a while back
jovial field
can u screenshot all ur depot ?
exculde the blues
you ask about gear or items i have ?
dusty wyvern
gear with equipped
because the pic u sent isn't enough to get the general idea of ur standpoint 
marsh obsidian
do you have Aquila or Volga?
marsh obsidian
some really questionable use of gold plates here
in future please consult here and /plus13 in #bot-spam
dusty wyvern
for w14 looks like he is only missing 2 155 kai right ?
aside from the tenrai
jovial field
some really questionable use of gold plates here
I did that several months ago the only one resent was table i got today from event, also NJ wep
Had no coins was going to make it +13 too
marsh obsidian
how many prototype cores do you have right now if any?
full sandal
I did that several months ago the only one resent was table i got today from eve...
are you saying you regret upgrading table and mk7? 
jovial field
how many prototype cores do you have right now if any?
This ?
dusty wyvern
looks like he only got 1 georgia gun from there
and not a single champy
even with a suboptimal progression u should be having 2 weapons at least from proto
jovial field
Have 100 for lvl 4 and 132 for lvl 5 , recently coverted lvl 2 and 3 to make one bb gun
Cant get secret ur from sirens opsi missing one to make 1 more bb gun
marsh obsidian
convert them all to Prototype Cores
you should have gotten the Tenrai first
no matter though, that should be your next focus
gear should look something like that for W14
most of that you have
what you don't have you should pretty easily be able to craft
dusty wyvern
what is that gun on alsace ?
marsh obsidian
Flandre gun from PR6
full sandal
you mean alsace gun
jovial field
gear should look something like that for W14
So that ur main gun i have for Laffey is not good ?
full sandal
the gun is more useful on sandy than laffey
jovial field
Oh
dusty wyvern
can u make another wyvern ?
full sandal
also
hammer is arguably better for laffey over swords
since her summons scale off of torp (counterintuitive i know)
jovial field
can u make another wyvern ?
Could do have 4 ? desings but was kinda keeping them for main gun
marsh obsidian
So that ur main gun i have for Laffey is not good ?
it's better utilized on San Diego in the comp is what I'm saying
she has a better main gun than Laffey 2
marsh obsidian
Could do have 4 ? desings but was kinda keeping them for main gun
why?
jovial field
why?
because wanted to use them as last resort, cuz some of t6 drops design plans few timess got them for t5 too
full sandal
she has a better main gun than Laffey 2
even that aside sandy's augment heavily favours fast gun
full sandal
jovial field
atm my sandy used 135mm twin main gun 1938
marsh obsidian
if you use a gun that fires too fast, you won't get all of the barrage for the 2nd mount
marsh obsidian
because wanted to use them as last resort, cuz some of t6 drops design plans few...
no like I mean why do you need main gun prints specifically?
jovial field
no like I mean why do you need main gun prints specifically?
atm im missing 20 metals and 3 desing for one more NJ wep
full sandal
if you use a gun that fires too fast, you won't get all of the barrage for the 2...
so you're saying it cuts off because when the first main gun fires again it cancels the second main gun's ongoing barrage?
jovial field
if i get metals i could craft it , but if wyvern is better option i could craft it right now
marsh obsidian
so you're saying it cuts off because when the first main gun fires again it canc...
I'm not sure what exactly is the cause but that's what's happening
The Mk7 is not a priority for crafting
go for the 2nd Wyvern
jovial field
if i remember well Kinocheese of how is that youtube ch called, he said take any but torpedos froom optional designs
marsh obsidian
if there is one single piece of advice you take away today
full sandal
full sandal
even the good youtubers make mistakes sometimes
jovial field
Kimo Cheese especially
lol, now you see why my opsi fleets were disaster, bc i couldnt find anything there
covert panther
my youtuber doesnt make mistakes
full sandal
like jimmy saying tai yuan's aimed barrage made her damage 27% higher than an shan, he didn't realize that tai yuan in his tests got an extra missile out because of her reload
which is rather clear when you look at the runs themselves
jovial field
also forgot to ask which is best placement for Alsace ? is it bottom bc sometimes i see her shooting over the top
full sandal
alsace probably very slightly performs better on flag but it should not make too much of a difference
jovial field
on flag usually i was keeping owari, bc dont really know any other ships besides hood and akane idk who else to place as flag
btw is the weps alright on this one
should prob change gold bird bc i did place mogador with som1 who had sync with it before
covert panther
flag position is given the the bb who has non aimed barrages for better hitrates, to any bb if shes the sole bb in fleet in fleet and u need intercepts and to the strongest bb if lacking non aimed barrages in fleet or if sole possesor of non aimed barrage when u have flag locked buffes like ply
marsh obsidian
https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4FgBgZmiBopQIwCZ5gKxMnFA2PHADgE4o...
some slight adjustments to make
also the positions are off as they are plugged in here
jovial field
Eugen would be placed in vanguard bot, and for flag idk which one
jovial field
and about gear ?
marsh obsidian
hmm?