Fleet help

[versed saffron]

Need help for fixing my fleets for w13 or possibly 14 and opsi, lemme send my dock

Main fleet

Vanguards

Current boss fleet

Current mob fleet

Opsi fleets

[candid burrow]

You are kinda missing AA vanguards for W13

ngl

[burnt kraken]

W13 and w14 and opsi are pretty different topics

[candid burrow]

also that

[burnt kraken]

How are your aa guns?

[candid burrow]

I don't remember how good Laffii's AA is compared to Guam or Sandy

And if that would be enough

[rain gate]

im blind do they have guam?

[burnt kraken]

You’ll be good for w13 no worries

Laffii is definitely aa carry levels

And you can compensate for poor vanguard aa with more fighters anyways

[versed saffron]

Wait lemme send

[burnt kraken]

W14 should be fine too. Vanguard is a little lacking but no trouble considering your other ships

Sole point of concern is gear ig

[burnt kraken]

As for opsi fleets I’m guessing someone suggested them to you because they follow the proper format

Hey pretty good aa guns

[candid burrow]

This seems fine to me
Mob:

Volga,Unicorn,Indep

Laffey II, Kazagumo,Sirius

Boss:

Soyuz,York II, Implac

Agir,Helena,Anchorage

even a little overkill

[burnt kraken]

For w13 that’ll work yep

[versed saffron]

Yep, I have guam not mlb bcoz of bulin drought

[rain gate]

excellent, shes a carry for w15

[candid burrow]

idk how to sync with Musashi so I tend to avoid recommending her for Campaign stuff

[burnt kraken]

I also see jda

What? Not using musashi for campaign?

[versed saffron]

Which ships should I tend to raise level first?

[candid burrow]

I don't have her and I heard she's weird to sync

[versed saffron]

Yeah, not raised, just been lyin there since the scales event

[candid burrow]

So I prefer recommending stuff I know of

[burnt kraken]

No she’s not who said that

Her gun is fine for syncing despite being a little slower than the competition

Easily solved with a loader anyways

[versed saffron]

Raising Volga and Perseus instead of her

[candid burrow]

well in any case that looks fine for W13

lemme see gear

[versed saffron]

For the ships?

[burnt kraken]

I’d probably swap soyuz with musashi but soyuz is fine ig

[versed saffron]

Aight wait

[boreal swift]

i have some concerns here of the boss vanguard having no AA with 2 carriers that aren't very desynced though it prob would still work cuz well triple UR

in W13 mobs planes aren't particularly threatening beyond 2* and 3* carrier nodes in which there's a lot more of them

[burnt kraken]

Meh throw in scylla

[boreal swift]

scylla's fine on mob

[burnt kraken]

And desync can be done with gear

[boreal swift]

personally i'd go like kear/indep/yk 2 on boss

[burnt kraken]

Not dev30 yet

[boreal swift]

ah

[candid burrow]

kear isn't dev 30

Hmm yeah Scylla instead of anchor might be a better option

[versed saffron]

The mob fleet gears

[boreal swift]

i'd go laff2 on boss she's not really needed on mobs tbf and i'd slap like harbin or seattle instead alongside scylla, and prob putting sirius on boss

[versed saffron]

27 bp short for her d30 btw

[candid burrow]

I would've prefered looking at your depot ngl

[versed saffron]

Wait

[versed saffron]

Only the gold ones?

[candid burrow]

If you do that I would assume you got most commonly used purples

[versed saffron]

Here btw

[candid burrow]

Hmmm as general tip

[boreal swift]

i would personally shfit indep to boss for a stronger desync with passive mob support and add sara to mob (i'm partial to her but i really like her constant damage stream)

[candid burrow]

don't +12 and +11 stuff here and there just because, if you can't +13 a gear just hold off your plates until you can

Also check out #bot-spam /plus13 for priorities

[versed saffron]

The ones from tech box? Most of em.

So, what should I put to my fleets?

[candid burrow]

Gimme a few mins

[versed saffron]

Should I raise JdA if I have some spare bulins?

[candid burrow]

Not now, she's needed for later

Btw you got Pearl Tears or Manjuu?

Can't find them in the image, just asking

[boreal swift]

planes wise you can use those flapjacks and hellcats for fighters, wyverns/skypirate/barracuda for mob tbs, ryuusei for boss if you're using implacable. dbs use tenrais and helldiver (the purple ones, yes it's better than the other gold dive bombers), can use skyraider for every world 13 boss except 13-4.

for AA guns use STAAG for CVL and BB, strongest AA vanguard should be using twin 113mm, the others should be using a mix of twin 113mm/quad bofors/STAAG depending on their AA ability, the weaker the more towards the right you should use generally

[versed saffron]

Don’t have pearls yet, but what manjuu, the one that gives immunity?

[candid burrow]

Yeah just asking for Laffey's Eagle Union thingy

Also show me your purple torps

[versed saffron]

Aight

[candid burrow]

I wanna see if you got any of the high rld ones

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/550mm_Triple_Torpedo_Mount#Type_3-0

Would prefer that one

[versed saffron]

This?

[boreal swift]

if you put manjuu on a laffey 2 on boss you're all but guaranteed to succeed on the boss at the very least even if every other vanguard falls

so you could just use say, sirius to boost up the main fleet

and it wouldn't really be a problem if she goes down

[versed saffron]

I’m now confused which ships I use

[versed saffron]

Oh, this?

[candid burrow]

If mob vanguard is struggling

Replace either Kazagumo for Scylla and add Anchorage as a tank

[rain gate]

i ran a ddg for mob

[boreal swift]

i'd say keep scylla, the other two could be changed though

[candid burrow]

I'm a CVs on steroids enjoyer

[rain gate]

~~mfw kaza dies ~~

[candid burrow]

Could happen

[versed saffron]

Could use a NJ gun tho

[candid burrow]

oh I missed it

use it lol

[boreal swift]

i would prob go harbin or so. there are some boats on mobs that can delete your planes so airstrikes against them can fall short a bit, so i think having ships with good constant output like harbin and scylla is good. and yea kazagumo is a bit frail

[candid burrow]

Here's your Anchor if mob vanguard struggles

With this many fighters + scylla on mob they shouldn't struggle that much tbh

[boreal swift]

but you're going to be fine regardless, i did world 13 mobs on lethal with just uni/sara + shimanto lol

the only parts that are remotely threatening are the carrier nodes, and those two botes that heal and can delete planes a bit

[rain gate]

1:1 15-4 lethal farm when?

[candid burrow]

oh btw Agir's torps should be Quad mag not Quint

I missclicked

Also get all those to +10

[boreal swift]

there is already a clear of 15-4 lethal auto that uses only one fleet (no second fleet, no sub, not even support carriers)

[candid burrow]

You seem to have many stuff +8

[boreal swift]

it is what you would expect pretty much

musashi/aquila/unicorn + laffey/jda/guam though shimanto can work in place of jda. used like 3 +13 57mm and a bunch of air radars

[rain gate]

suchiguma moment

honestly just a buncha URs

[boreal swift]

meanwhile i'm here playing it out on world 14 manual and it got tense sometimes

[rain gate]

didnt do 15 yet?

[boreal swift]

i do have laffey 2/guam/shimanto for the eventual world 15 attempt but i do not have a leveled sandy. heck i do not even have a truly good set of support carriers yet, best i'd be able to manage in the near future is indomitable/illustrious/langley

i didn't, i don't even have 57mms yet

[rain gate]

suport good enough, you could ball with 1 57 and still make it past 15-4 easily

[boreal swift]

i'm just a bit too lacking on great boats for this still

[rain gate]

also aquila not required

[boreal swift]

yeah i don't want to use aquila nor musashi anyway, i am going to use that mob main fleet i mentioned before most likely

it's pretty clear that main fleet combo is going to eclipse every other mob comp for the rest of eternity unless the devs get seriously creative, which they could

[rain gate]

the one i used was pretty reliable

[boreal swift]

what i would like to see for world 16 is a focus on light armored enemies that are very very evasive

i'm totally not asking that because i want gun destroyers to have a place to shine or anything

[rain gate]

lol, id imagine w16 is a combination of 14 and 15

[boreal swift]

well 15 is already kinda a combination of 13 and 14

since concealment does take some part in 15

maybe we will be able to set a different kind of support fleet on world 16 that plays like auto lol

like subs but an actual vanguard

that would be kind of cool

[rain gate]

time to wait like 2 years

[iron trench]

That sounds quite impressive

But idk how a w13 fleet help thread became w16 discussion