#Help with Fleet

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acoustic grotto
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Created

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These are my options. Everything below the last image were repeats of rare and common characters so I figured they weren’t worth showing here

white crane
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you don't have too much yet

acoustic grotto
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Indeed I do not

white crane
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portland is essentially a must-use because some of the rookie missions even require retrofitting her, and her retrofit is a decent stat stick

acoustic grotto
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Is she a vanguard or main?

white crane
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javelin is fine to use/retrofit as well

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she's vanguard tank

acoustic grotto
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Ok

white crane
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new jersey is of course extremely strong

novel sun
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Read the newbie tips

white crane
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but since you're new it might be a while before you can MLB her

novel sun
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Your fleet will not differ except Bellorussiya for Penn

acoustic grotto
# novel sun Read the newbie tips

I’ll read them tomorrow when I have the brain processing power and when it ain’t almost midnight. I’ll definitely look through it, though

novel sun
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I also reccomend dropping Cassin

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Let me sell this to you

white crane
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let them use their waifu

acoustic grotto
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😦

novel sun
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Using a more optimized set up will allow you to progress faster and more quickly

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You get to reap rewards much faster and better

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You're then able to reinvest all of that back into your waifus like Cassin and make them viable for more content

acoustic grotto
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I understand the reasoning behind dropping her

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But it’s my philosophy that if you can’t beat a game using your favorite characters in place of the viable ones then the game has a fundamental problem

novel sun
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You can

acoustic grotto
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I’ll still play it of course cuz the art is nice WhydahXD

novel sun
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I'm just saying you're just making things more difficult for yourself with consequences I don't think you fully grasp yet

acoustic grotto
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Perhaps

novel sun
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Not to mention beating the entirety of the game with cassin is uhhh yeah

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Stretching things

acoustic grotto
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lol

white crane
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if cassin is his only compromise he'll be fine

acoustic grotto
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Btw I’m also entirely unwilling to spend money on gacha content at all so that may hinder my ability to get good ships

novel sun
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I still do not in good conscience reccomend it

white crane
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besides there will be a point not that far into the future where cassin will be 125 and 200 and they'll be using other botes anyway

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either for leveling or just whatever

novel sun
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Being f2p has no affect on getting ships

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You can get 100% collection rate as a F2P

acoustic grotto
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I guess that’s probs true

novel sun
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I know it's true

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Because I've done it

acoustic grotto
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Getting higher limit breaks might prove difficult though for the higher rarity ships

white crane
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as usual with this kind of game, your main limitation when being f2p is space for boats and managing all of that

novel sun
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Not really

acoustic grotto
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Or I guess just a slower process

novel sun
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Bullins are quite common and if you manage them wisely they will not be an issue

acoustic grotto
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Yeah I think there were a few in the weekly missions

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Idk

novel sun
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And you get enough gems as a F2P to take care of quality of life stuff like dock space and form slots

white crane
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if you wish to remain fully f2p, and wanting to keep boats beyond the strictly relevant ones, you'll have to manage carefully. and then there's managing fleet tech boats eventually

novel sun
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What

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You can get enough gems as a F2P to keep one copy of each ship

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More than that even

acoustic grotto
white crane
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not sure where you're getting that from

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the game has like 700 boats doesn't it

novel sun
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Gimme one sec

acoustic grotto
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I think it’s like 715 or something

novel sun
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This does require more than the amount you get base

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But it is still perfectly doable if you play long enough

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Which you'll need to anyway if you want to get to 100%

white crane
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it's 200 gems for 10 slots, so if we just say you need 700, subtract 30 from guild, leaves 670, so you need to buy 570, which is 11400 gems. idk how much you can get total but that still sounds like a lot

novel sun
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Annis, LNY, etc

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It all adds up

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Also the base is 150 slots

white crane
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ah my bad

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forgot

lyric mirage
novel sun
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And bear in mind I have the 3rd dorm slot and 2nd floor

white crane
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so you're saying you got all of that completely f2p

novel sun
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Yes

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Not a single cent has been spent

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First time recharge still on my account is proof of that

white crane
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i see

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but you do still need to manage carefully depending on how fast you progress through the game and desire to get/level fleet tech boats

novel sun
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You do need to manage carefully yes

white crane
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i didn't see penny in there, does he have her

novel sun
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She's in the guild shop

white crane
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right

novel sun
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But they'll be using Bellorussiya anyway

lyric mirage
novel sun
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I never have

white crane
lyric mirage
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That makes no sense. Lb ships good otherwise you would just end up scrapping dupes and bulins constantly

white crane
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what

lyric mirage
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You learn to let go of 0LB bs

white crane
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no idea what you're talking about

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i don't scrap bulins, no point

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i still have use for them

lyric mirage
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Why would you need gems to level a ship. You don't need to scrap a single ship

white crane
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not sure how this is a hard concept to grasp

lyric mirage
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Please explain why you need gems to level a ship

white crane
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you don't need gems to level ships. you need gems to have ships around, however

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there are ships you don't want to get rid of purely because of needing to acquire their tech

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what do you do when more ships come about that you want to keep? yeah, you need dock space

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rather obvious

lyric mirage
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You buy more dock? I have 690+ f2p. Cheeky had 754

white crane
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i do and don't regret it (and i still scrap ships occasionally)

lyric mirage
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Ok good for you

white crane
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you obviously cannot play the game f2p, and manage to expand dock at the same rate as you get new ships without ever scrapping anything as it stands, unless you stunt your progress significantly for no reason

lyric mirage
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What are you talking about. Cheeky did it. I could if I cared

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I didn't suddenly get 690 dock space from a gem com.

white crane
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no, there's just not a way to do it, it's impossible. there are too many events and too many botes you can get just from daily pulls

lyric mirage
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Well you're wrong

white crane
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ok? i'm pretty sure i am not wrong when my dock is full and i am very much not f2p lol

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explain how my dock got filled?

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oh sorry i didn't do the few 3 star campaigns i have left, or i didn't do 5 million gem comms for an extra 1000 gems after 3 years or something. right

lyric mirage
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Use your bulins for 1

white crane
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i don't have that many bulins

lyric mirage
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You seem to think I'm some loser name kimo

white crane
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and obviously i need to keep at least some around

novel sun
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All I will say is this

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While I certainly started on a period when events and reruns weren't quite as frequent as they were now

lyric mirage
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I can barely make 10k on events and you think I'm going to do something stupid like farm 2-1? No thanks

novel sun
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I played the collector fame hard from day 1 and actively went out of my way to get ships like map drops

white crane
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you don't even need to do 2-1 for gem comms, you just do C1

novel sun
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I pulled on every event and rerun and never actively tried to increase my Gen income

white crane
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but either way that was not the point

novel sun
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In fact I actively sabatoged myself if anything because I didn't participate in some events that gave gems and did not farm maps that much in my early days

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I also did without the 2nd floor for the longest time

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But I never had to scrap any first copies of ships to free up dock space

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Even if it was a bit touch and go at times

white crane
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yeah, you started early. of course this will make a huge difference, newer players just have to contend with more now

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it's really not comparable

novel sun
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Early being relative

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I only started in December 2020

white crane
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you could say that, i guess it's reasonably early in EN terms

novel sun
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So, when exactly did you start

white crane
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only quite recently in EN, just october of last year. but i actually played the game for a bit back when JP version first came out all the way back in late 2017

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i rage quit after i didn't get mikasa

novel sun
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Well that explains a bit at least

white crane
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then i returned briefly about a year later but quit the game again

novel sun
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You started after the EN Anni

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So you haven't exactly had a large injection of extra gems yet

white crane
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those were the times back then

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i had that ayanami nico nico skin. i kinda miss that

novel sun
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And if you spent gems on anything other than dock slots, 2nd floor and 3rd dorm slot that certainly wouldn't have helped

white crane
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for f2ps yes that would have especially hurt

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though i am not f2p at all personally, i have all of the typical "conveniences" (full dorm and even 4 tactical class slots). i don't have problems dumping some in the game

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but yeah i'm at close to 350 dock space now

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and i even missed some botes (uvh and kron both gone, but i don't really care tbh)

novel sun
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Sounds like you might wanna put some more into dock space yourself then soon