w14 ships prep | Azur Lane Official | Page 1

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 4:49 AM

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asdg hold on

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 4:49 AM

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Pk

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 4:50 AM

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research wise

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gear for the most part is fine though i think

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just auxes

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 4:54 AM

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Mob: FDG, Unicorn, Volga, Anchorage, Suzutsuki, San Diego

Boss: Soyuz, Alsace, Enterprise, Agir, Jeanne d'Arc,?????

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The ???? means I don't know what to put there for now

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And I know you don't have Agir right now

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 4:55 AM

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yeah i have a plan for her that you wont like

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 4:55 AM

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Okay...

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 4:55 AM

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but itll work out

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 4:56 AM

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What exactly is your plan

topaz drum Jul 2, 2024, 4:56 AM

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I may know

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 4:56 AM

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build cheshire finish pr3 research mission, get to pr4 research mission and cdc the heck out of agir

topaz drum Jul 2, 2024, 4:56 AM

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EssexWheeze

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 4:57 AM

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and also partway through haku when i get her

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 4:57 AM

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That's just a waste of combat data packs

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And prototype cores

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You still have UR gear to get from the Prototype shop still

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 4:57 AM

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yeah i know i have catchup roon and fdg for that

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 4:58 AM

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Have you actually calculated how much you'll need and what you'll get

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 4:58 AM

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ill be able to get a second tenrai and a q152 or other

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yes

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3000 fdg catchup
1500 roon catchup
90x20 prints from research missions
coin cheshire for another 1500 when i do her catchup

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:00 AM

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And you know how much of what you have left will cost yes

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:00 AM

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2.6 UR gears when that is finished which may take me like 6 months

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farm 11/12h for retro prints for the actual research bits, some cubes and some more coins

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:02 AM

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No I mean the UR gear

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The Tenrai, Plymouth gun 457, Drake Gun and in a few months the Hindenburg gun

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Throwing away a scarce currency used to get them and for what

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To save a 2-3 weeks of farming XP

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:04 AM

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to get my first tenrai it took like 4 months

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:04 AM

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Yes

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That's about average

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And anyway

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There's a lot more work to be done to get your fleets up to scratch

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So rushing agir with combat data packs is of little benefit

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Let me put together a gear recc and you'll see better what I mean

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:07 AM

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also avp has taken me 1 month and shes not done yet

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:08 AM

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Of unlocking?

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:08 AM

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yea

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developing

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:09 AM

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That's normal

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Also you know you can't coin Agir right

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:09 AM

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u say it takes 2-3 weeks to farm cdc

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:09 AM

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forest acorn Also you know you can't coin Agir right

yea

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:10 AM

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For both Agir and Haku hypothetically

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2 weeks is the minimum time it takes to unlock a Pr ship

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You can easily be done with the XP missions before the next unlock

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Add in an extra week if you don't dig into your mail reserves

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:11 AM

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so wheres the problem with using catchup for protocore on coinable ships

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:11 AM

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That's not the issue

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The issue is using Combat Data packs for XP

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And not Prototype cores

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:16 AM

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so anyway fleet prep

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i also have some gold plates if you want me to +13 some stuff

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:20 AM

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That is roughly what you'll want your gear to look like

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Eugen is just a place holder

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:23 AM

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why no helena

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:23 AM

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Because W14 boss fights are in affect one big mob fight

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So Helena's radar scan isn't as valuable and you need a high level of consistency which Helena is very much not

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She's also squishy

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:24 AM

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also why suzutsuki

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:24 AM

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She's a solid DD

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:25 AM

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over tashkent?

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:25 AM

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Pretty much the best you have

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Yes

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:25 AM

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alr

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guess i wont 125 tashkent

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is it her skills that make suzutsuki good cause im not seeing her stats or gear efficiency be very good

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compared to tash

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:28 AM

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Partially

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It also helps she has mgm+1

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She's also IJN tech and DD fp at the end of the day anyway

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:29 AM

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huh alright that makes up for it

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so for that final slot in boss who do i put there

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:31 AM

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You don't really have many good options

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:31 AM

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or do i have no good options currently worth investing

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:31 AM

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The way I see it you have immediate choices of you want to force something

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Anchorage to the boss fleet and Roon mob tanks

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Or Eugen to the boss fleet

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:32 AM

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alright then ill put baltimore aside first and level the ones you told me

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:32 AM

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Neither of which sounds particularly appealing

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Personally

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Since you have so much to work on

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I'd leave the answer to closer when you're actually ready

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:33 AM

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alr ill see what i have after the next UR event

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:33 AM

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Prep probably won't take that long

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:35 AM

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i still have that bet where ill get 10k gems if i clear 14-4 in less than 365 days of login so im trying more

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:35 AM

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Well if that's the case

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 5:35 AM

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forest acorn Anchorage to the boss fleet and Roon mob tanks

Then try one of those

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It won't be pretty

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But it'll probably work

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Also start looking into a sub fleet

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Even if it's not that great it will be a huge boon

vocal bramble Jul 2, 2024, 5:48 AM

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these are my current subs

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also i have this thing soonish

forest acorn Jul 2, 2024, 6:22 AM

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vocal bramble these are my current subs

Start work on the 3 u boats

vocal bramble Jul 3, 2024, 1:18 AM

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forest acorn Start work on the 3 u boats

hunt for u101 in special pool?

forest acorn Jul 3, 2024, 1:18 AM

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No

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That's an utter waste of cubes

vocal bramble Jul 3, 2024, 1:19 AM

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then wdym

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u522?

forest acorn Jul 3, 2024, 1:19 AM

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Yes

vocal bramble Jul 3, 2024, 4:26 AM

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also in the boss fleet, do i look for a tank or damager in the 3rd slot

forest acorn Jul 3, 2024, 4:28 AM

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Usually another CB or Anchorage would be slotted there

vocal bramble Jul 3, 2024, 4:28 AM

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are CBs all gacha or research

forest acorn Jul 3, 2024, 4:29 AM

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Yes

vocal bramble Jul 8, 2024, 11:44 PM

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hey cheeky would chang chun kai be a better option than suzutsuki in mob 2nd slot

forest acorn Jul 8, 2024, 11:45 PM

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she would

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but unless you have her retrofit item already I would not invest in her

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because you already have Mogador

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and whenever you get around to MLBing her

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she'll just displace Chang Chun in affect anyway

vocal bramble Jul 8, 2024, 11:46 PM

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i have tai yuan’s retro item

forest acorn Jul 8, 2024, 11:46 PM

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get her from the guild shop

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and do her retro instead

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even if you already started Chang Chun's

vocal bramble Jul 8, 2024, 11:47 PM

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i suppose bulins and guild coins are cheaper than spec core

forest acorn Jul 8, 2024, 11:47 PM

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also

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unless Chang Chun is being sortied with like 3+ NP and DE ships

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Tai Yuan is better than her in a full fleet of 6 ships

vocal bramble Jul 8, 2024, 11:50 PM

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alr

vocal bramble Jul 19, 2024, 1:08 AM

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if i have a 2nd tenrai can i put it on volga then wyvern stays on uni

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that way i dont need to buy breguet

forest acorn Jul 19, 2024, 2:00 AM

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uhh what

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the 2nd Tenrai would go on Volga

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but I don't see how that would affect who get's the Wyvern

vocal bramble Jul 24, 2024, 12:52 PM

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oh hold on helena doesnt work for w14

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new

forest acorn Jul 24, 2024, 3:51 PM

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swap Jeanne and Tai Yuan around

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just regular Quad Mags on San Diego as well

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seal of the 4 gods and tool box on Tai Yuan

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155 Kai on FDG, non negotiable

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and do you seriously not have enough gold catapults for all CVs?

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also I'd swap Enty and Volga's TB's around

vocal bramble Jul 24, 2024, 11:13 PM

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forest acorn and do you seriously not have enough gold catapults for all CVs?

PortDoll

vocal bramble Jul 24, 2024, 11:16 PM

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forest acorn seal of the 4 gods and tool box on Tai Yuan

guess ill delay another 2 weeks for w14 then

forest acorn Jul 24, 2024, 11:16 PM

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I mean you can try with that

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but at least run HP auxes on Tai Yuan and not a rudder

vocal bramble Jul 27, 2024, 11:14 AM

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adjusted and bump for a person i forgot the name of

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@fathom hawk

fathom hawk Jul 27, 2024, 11:15 AM

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i just found it

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gear looks fine imho

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make enty flag though

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when running two bb it better to make the cv flag, bb intercept range is like a circle

vocal bramble Jul 27, 2024, 11:19 AM

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hmm alr

fathom hawk Jul 27, 2024, 11:19 AM

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but if yr bb doesnt have centered barrage it is what is i guess

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so yea 155 kai is non-negotiable for w14 for your bbs

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wait wheres you seal of 4 gods for tai yuan? she needs that

vocal bramble Jul 27, 2024, 11:22 AM

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uh lack core data

fathom hawk Jul 27, 2024, 11:22 AM

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also if you have a homing beacon it better than your drop tank on uni

vocal bramble Jul 27, 2024, 11:23 AM

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i have beacon yea

fathom hawk Jul 27, 2024, 11:23 AM

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vocal bramble uh lack core data

uh, i guess you can just try and see if it works

vocal bramble Jul 27, 2024, 11:23 AM

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i think ill get seal of gods before 3rd black shell then

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actually do i even need 3rd black shell if i have AFCT

fathom hawk Jul 27, 2024, 11:25 AM

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okay this is gonna be a hot take from me but 2 black shell is prob enough since youll use afct/hsfcr and white shell most of the time

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also give soyuz the afct, alsace can use double shell

vocal bramble Jul 27, 2024, 11:26 AM

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why not alsace for her debuff to proc first

fathom hawk Jul 27, 2024, 11:28 AM

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alsace has a preload

vocal bramble Jul 27, 2024, 11:29 AM

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only herself will take advantage of that debuff on her preload

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soyuz will always fire before alsace anyway

fathom hawk Jul 27, 2024, 11:30 AM

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also, her debuff is random target

vocal bramble Jul 27, 2024, 11:31 AM

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i did hear that w14 boss patterns are more like a mob

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afct on soyuz it is then

fathom hawk Jul 27, 2024, 11:32 AM

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w14 and w15 boss fights are like regular boss fights combined with a mob node

vocal bramble Jul 27, 2024, 11:47 AM

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also i dont have that many flapjacks im poor

fathom hawk Jul 27, 2024, 11:51 AM

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just use tigercat

vocal bramble Jul 31, 2024, 10:54 AM

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new month coming so i made some adjustments, is it better or worse

fathom hawk Jul 31, 2024, 11:57 AM

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looks fine

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but make enty flag and give soy the afct

forest acorn Jul 31, 2024, 1:56 PM

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eh I wouldn't

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I see 0 reason to flag Enterprise

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Twin 90mm on Tai Yuan though

vocal bramble Jul 31, 2024, 2:46 PM

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is it better or just cheaper

forest acorn Jul 31, 2024, 2:47 PM

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better

vocal bramble Jul 31, 2024, 2:48 PM

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tierlist recommends to put accelerator AA on tai yuan because she has poor AA

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i thought about asking that earlier actually on what it means

forest acorn Jul 31, 2024, 2:49 PM

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AA is a really complicated topic

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but to boil it down

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AA guns can basically be split into 2 categories

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your carry AA guns, basically just Sextuple and Roomba

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and accelerators which is basically everything else

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remember AA gun reload time is averaged across the fleet and the Roomba and Sextuple reload pretty slowly

vocal bramble Jul 31, 2024, 2:51 PM

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so accelerator is just to speed up the AA firing

forest acorn Jul 31, 2024, 2:51 PM

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yes

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but there's different flavors of accelerators

forest acorn Jul 31, 2024, 2:51 PM

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vocal bramble new month coming so i made some adjustments, is it better or worse

like the one on Tai Yuan here is a pure accelerator basically

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i.e. it's only their to reduce reload time and doesn't contribute much to damage

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I'm really not a fan of these

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as they don't really reduce AA cooldown time to a meaningful degree

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and so you're kinda just throwing away the slot

vocal bramble Jul 31, 2024, 2:53 PM

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so twin 90 AA is like a half accelerator half damage AA while this one is full accelerator tiny damage

forest acorn Jul 31, 2024, 2:53 PM

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basically

vocal bramble Jul 31, 2024, 2:54 PM

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so does this gun get used if i have say 2 strong AA frontline running roomba/6ofors and 1 weak one

forest acorn Jul 31, 2024, 2:54 PM

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the Twin 90mm?

vocal bramble Jul 31, 2024, 2:55 PM

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triple 25mm ATAA

forest acorn Jul 31, 2024, 2:55 PM

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not at all, at least personally

vocal bramble Jul 31, 2024, 2:56 PM

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hmm i think i get it

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w14 doesnt have that much AA anyway right

forest acorn Jul 31, 2024, 2:57 PM

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no

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but it's something you still need to pay attention to

vocal bramble Jul 31, 2024, 2:58 PM

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ill go craft more twin 90s when i get to farm again then

#w14 ships prep