here

[indigo cave]

any of them, one in each slot

[hearty harbor]

@zealous geyser honestly pick whatever two cats that are SR rarity and lv30

[zealous geyser]

but how do i know which cats are good? is there like a tier list?

[hearty harbor]

typically you would optimize. So for instance, Oscar, Lime and antenna are BB oriented, whereas Bishamaru is a CV oriented

[indigo cave]

doesn't matter if you're not using the cats for stats

I'm just asking you to equip them because if you don't you can't do meowfficers salvage nodes, and you'll be losing out on loot

[hearty harbor]

but if your talents are bad then it doesn't matter that much, plus here the priority is getting max rewards from cat nodes, which are more important than the cats' skills themselves here

if you want to learn more about cats

[indigo cave]

mewofficer is a whole other topic you'll need to wait till you have the time and coin for

[hearty harbor]

then there's a guide, and a wiki page:
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Meowfficer
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

that said though, cats are very expensive to raise

i would advise you to postpone optimizing cats until you're very comfortable farming in w12 and have been for a while

[zealous geyser]

eh w12 will take some time

[hearty harbor]

just make sure you get your free daily cat exp and free cat box in the meantime

[indigo cave]

it's not like optimizing cats matter until you're squeezing the last bit of output

[zealous geyser]

maybe once i get hindenburg or something

[indigo cave]

maybe once you get HIndenburg to d30 sure

[echo sequoia]

hinden wont be usable for you if you dont haev dev30

[indigo cave]

hopefully you'll actually have a better idea by then, otherwise optimizing your cats will still just be a useless coin sink

you have plenty else you should be sinking your time and coin in that will be much more impactful than bothering with cats

[zealous geyser]

like?

[indigo cave]

enhancing gear
retrofitting ships
LBing ships
research
coin enahncing PRs

[zealous geyser]

oh ok

[indigo cave]

especially research and enhancing older PRs you've been working on in your case

you keep trying to develop ships but you're not doing research proper to get the prints you need for them

[zealous geyser]

who should i retrofit here?

[indigo cave]

San Diego eventually, you could start putting some effort in
Independence is good as well but still needs more levels and LB before you can actually work with her

will also need retrofit prints obviously, not sure if you have enough

[zealous geyser]

very few

single digit

[indigo cave]

you need to be doing your 3 hard mode fights daily, and preferably only the highest chapter you can access
you'll also need to do the different maps for each chapter to get different print types

x-1 will drop DD prints, x-2 cruiser prints, x-3 BB prints and x-4 CV prints, so you'll need to do more x-2 and x-4, whichever chapter hard you can actually manage up to

[zealous geyser]

highest hard stage i have is 10 but i never did it

[indigo cave]

give it a shot, if you can't manage it at least do 9

[zealous geyser]

only doing 8

[indigo cave]

make sure you're doing the stage with the print type you'll need, even then it could take weeks to get the prints

but you need to start doing it daily if you haven't been doing it, otherwise you'll never have enough prints

[hearty harbor]

@zealous geyser

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[indigo cave]

he's been pasted that at least 10 times

it's not helping

[hearty harbor]

Welp then. I don’t what the problem is…

[indigo cave]

incapable of actually understanding the guide and evaluating what he needs

[hearty harbor]

How about this;
-keep all the gear, unless it’s on the safe to scrap list
-equip gear on your ships if you’re missing space in your depot
-follow ectl recommended gearing or use samheart’s guide to know what gear is good

And stop asking if individual gear is good

[indigo cave]

I've personally said that at least twice

[hearty harbor]

[zealous geyser]

wait wait wait, you lost me again

[hearty harbor]

In what way?

[zealous geyser]

first part i kinda understand, second part no

and third completely not

[hearty harbor]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II
This is the safe to scrap gear, so completely useless

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home
This is the English community tierlist. Find your ship, click on her profile, and you’ll have examples of gear she can use. Click on the gear image too to see info on context

[zealous geyser]

ok so i scrap everything on this list now?

[indigo cave]

please only scrap gear in the top section of the list

the bottom section is a list of niche gears you may have use for

[hearty harbor]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment
This is samheart’s equipment guide that goes more in depth into what gear is good and why

[indigo cave]

especially since your lack of gear may mean some will end up being useful for a while

[zealous geyser]

you were about 10 seconds too late

[indigo cave]

you don't need to scrap gear now anyway

you're not going to run out of depot space for at least weeks

lixxy this is why I keep to explaining one thing at a time

[hearty harbor]

As for the second part, basically you have a max storage capacity for gear. If you equip gear onto ships then they stop counting for that limit

[indigo cave]

I'm really avoiding telling him anything that's not part of his immediate problem

[hearty harbor]

It literallly says safe to scrap and then niche equipment…

[indigo cave]

he's not reading.

at least he shouldn't have scrapped any much important and most of his actually useful stuff should already be equipped

[hearty harbor]

Well at least looking at the niche equipment list nothing too bad could have happened

[zealous geyser]

thats what i have left now

[indigo cave]

you're fine, just don't think about scrapping gear again until you're out of space

[hearty harbor]

Sorry nntktt, thanks for the warning

[zealous geyser]

so what do i do now?

[hearty harbor]

For gearing?

[zealous geyser]

anything

[hearty harbor]

Hm. Please give specifics

Please don’t expect us to literally go over everything

[zealous geyser]

@indigo cavebtw chapayev and enterprise are lvl 90 now, bremerton 80, no bulins to lb further

[indigo cave]

wait for the bulins, next should be Enterprise

for now you don't need to do anything out of the ordinary besides just doing the daily grinds, and repeat zones in OS when there's AP to burn

[zealous geyser]

what was the daily grinds part again?

[indigo cave]

make sure you clear your daily raids, for now grind event D3 with oil, avoid using ships that are XP capped like those I asked you to level but are stuck without bulins

[zealous geyser]

why should i avoid those ships?

[indigo cave]

because ships that are capped by limit break don't get XP

like your lv90 Enterprise and Chapayev, they won't stock any XP, it'll just be 0 until you can MLB them

[zealous geyser]

but the xp gets saved till i lb no?

[indigo cave]

no that's only for cognitive awakening, for LB caps the XP is just gone

[zealous geyser]

oh

well that was a waste then

[indigo cave]

if you don't have better ships to use then wasting the XP is fine I guess, you don't have a lot of options when you also need to fulfill level and stat reqs for event hard maps

it'll be another event next week so you may not be going back to grinding in campaign for quite a while

[hearty harbor]

@zealous geyser

[zealous geyser]

hi

[hearty harbor]

any new additions to your dock?

i can see the pictures you put last time, anything different?

[zealous geyser]

well uh fdg is now dev30

aswell as anchorage

and some other stuff i think

id have to look

[hearty harbor]

great you can add them in

both are great ships

[zealous geyser]

do i switch out nj or essex for fdg?

[hearty harbor]

definitely essex

also since she's not fate simulation (fs) 5 yet, put fdg flag

[astral kindle]

so ships are okay to use before fs5?

[hearty harbor]

as for anchorage, great tank that you can add somewhere else once you have her leveled

[hearty harbor]

most yeah, only real exception is August von parseval since before fs5 her stop doesn't trigger 100% of the time

[astral kindle]

okie good to know, i was holding out on using roon

[hearty harbor]

the only rule pertaining to that is not to use non-mlb ships in general (a bit more flexible for non damage dealers), equivalently dev30 for research ships

[zealous geyser]

this is what i got to work with @hearty harbor

and this is my current

[hearty harbor]

ok nice

oh my alsace

[zealous geyser]

which one?

[hearty harbor]

hm.

so next in line for a UR rerun is vanguard

great BB, good addition to your dock

[zealous geyser]

cries in 9 cubes

[hearty harbor]

alternatively, you can farm for duke of york or buy her with merit, she's worse but also helps buff damage (see war archives to farm for her)

here
Boss fleet: nj alsace fdg agir helena [anchorage? flex]
mob fleet: vittorio unicorn aquila roon, san fran, duca
i guess these work

you wouldn't really have a complete third fleet so yep

[zealous geyser]

i dont think i even have a second complete fleet

[dense shuttle]

Let's do this again @zealous geyser

[versed stream]

Post your full fleets and equip loadouts here you attempted w11 with

[zealous geyser]

ok 1 sec

[dense shuttle]

wait, where is helena and SF and NJ?

[echo sequoia]

even w/o them this shouldnt fail 11

[dense shuttle]

this fleet should easily one fleet w11 and w12, I think... but still, need to work on a second fleet so you can have a "boss fleet" when your mob fleet is zero ammo

[versed stream]

Yeah this is kinda the only explanation I can think of

[sullen hazel]

100%

[versed stream]

If not that either all we can do is ask you for a screen recording of the fight leading to failure

[dense shuttle]

I wish he would respond to that question

[sullen hazel]

u are asking him for the impossible

we are omega lucky that we have these screenshots and the fact that he said that he failed because of the timer running out

[lime otter]

Just @ him

[versed stream]

Pinging is kinda broken on my phone

[lime otter]

@zealous geyser

[gaunt girder]

i mean he can pretty easily make another fleet considering his dock he posted on monday

[lavish pagoda]

[zealous geyser]

?

[gaunt girder]

answer the question

[zealous geyser]

without gearing them, probably

[zealous geyser]

what question?

[gaunt girder]

the one usui asked?

[versed stream]

Go and do a fight in w11 and show us a screenshot from within that fight

[zealous geyser]

just closed the game like 10 minutes ago

done with that bullshit for now

[lime otter]

Honestly I cba with this guy anymore

I'm blocking him

That's literally disrespectful towards the ppl trying to help you

[dense shuttle]

bro, if my guess is right, and you haven't been auto shooting your bb and your planes, this is going to be a game changer

[versed stream]

The question was asked like 20 minutes ago just as you had posted your fleets
And that was just a repost of the same question from 10 minutes before that

[zealous geyser]

What question?

[versed stream]

This

[zealous geyser]

Yeah i blocked this guy bc he's just talking shit towards me

[versed stream]

Well then display that one msg

It's just asking what the button top left says while you're in combat

[sullen hazel]

proof or it didn't happen

[dense shuttle]

haha, I got blocked, that's rich

@lime otter I'm going to follow your lead

[versed stream]

Tbf that's a reaction many ppl have to being told they must be trolling

[dense shuttle]

it's fine, I don't mind for now, maybe we can reconcile if he ever figures out how to play the game

[lavish pagoda]

[sullen hazel]

u are on hopium overdoses but i respect it (the if part)

[gaunt girder]

@zealous geyser tell us when you're on the game

[astral kindle]

[gaunt girder]

[sullen hazel]

[zealous geyser]

back in the gamee

[sullen hazel]

can u record the run in which the timer runs out ?
like even 20 seconds is enough

[versed stream]

If you still want help with that 11-3 or whatever stage it was anyway

[astral kindle]

[zealous geyser]

idk how to record

[sullen hazel]

what are u using an emulator or phone ?

[dense shuttle]

he should screen shot his fight

[sullen hazel]

are u sure a simple screenshot can decypher this mystery ?

[zealous geyser]

phone

[sullen hazel]

i m kinda bad with phones but sec i will see how it is done

[sullen hazel]

i found this video
it might be valuable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDF-2S21Huw&ab_channel=PrimalVideo

there should be a built in recording app in the android phone

somewhere

[dense shuttle]

yes, the answer on if he's in the right mode can be answered with a in fight screen shot.

[versed stream]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1254145175132045373/1261368681569452164/image.webp?ex=6692b4a0&is=66916320&hm=5ab2cb829cebe7f19293c867839f3d983f91e3373b4b72bf61961e690b75c22a&=&format=webp

Since you blocked the guy to be sure you see it

@zealous geyser This does look like this right?

Within the fight

Top left of the screen

It does not say AUTO right?

[zealous geyser]

it says manual

[versed stream]

Then I have no idea what you could possibly fail at, you will have to do this or sth similar to record your fight and then we can see what your fleet dies to @zealous geyser

[dense shuttle]

I guess the next question is if his auto search is set to "all enemies" or if it's "escorts" and "flagship"... because there is no reason for him to time out with the fleet and gear he has shown before.

[sullen hazel]

well since it is his first clear i think auto won't matter much

he has to change his fleet manually

inside the map

[dense shuttle]

good point... he needs to switch fleets on boss

[versed stream]

Didn't he say it wasn't even out of ammo?

[sullen hazel]

@zealous geyser since ur setting is correct inside the fight
with which fleet are u fighting the boss ? the new jersey one ?

[dense shuttle]

the mystery is deep, and it's hard to get the feedback we need to help him when he doesn't often respond or give us good positive feedback that he tries what we give him to do.

[zealous geyser]

this one, was asked to use my opsi fleet, didnt help

[sullen hazel]

the fleet 1 is ur bossing fleet ?

[dense shuttle]

unicorn is supposed to be the mob fleet

[zealous geyser]

i was asked to just use my opsi fleet

[dense shuttle]

I mean that fleet will clear boss if it still has ammo... not sure if it can on zero ammo

[zealous geyser]

thats what im doing now

[versed stream]

Are you using that for all fights then?

[zealous geyser]

yes

[sullen hazel]

yeah looks like he is using 1 fleet

[versed stream]

Hmm and you are timing out on the boss or before?

[dense shuttle]

why is fdg low morale? you can put her in dorm to increase her morale

[sullen hazel]

he has gear deficit too so it is kinda hard to gear 2 fleets

[zealous geyser]

i think it was boss

[sullen hazel]

u have enough ships to make 2 fleets to beat easily chapter 12

[dense shuttle]

i'm pretty sure he showed gear on both fleets, he just needs to run the other fleet on the boss

[sullen hazel]

using 1 fleet for everything is a challenge in itself
not recommended to do it

[dense shuttle]

if that is a recent screenshot, he's also farming something to lower fdg's morale

[sullen hazel]

yeah he has a goated fleet for the boss

[versed stream]

Idk if we saw gear for the boss fleet though

[zealous geyser]

i was told to do it so

[versed stream]

What does your second fleet look like? I still think that fleet should clear all of it, but with 2 fleets should be a lot simpler

[zealous geyser]

dont have

[sullen hazel]

he has alsace and new jersey

anchorage as tank

[zealous geyser]

i think i should just finally quit

[dense shuttle]

he showed at least this one fleet's gear here:
#1254145175132045373 message

[versed stream]

If you want to and don't find the game fun

In any case I would make your second fleet let's see, Alsace, NJ, Aquila? - Anchor, ig Z1??, San Francisco

[sullen hazel]

u have enough power to beat the stage u are in now
just use 2 fleets
the unicorn fleet that is pinned here for mob
the alsace new jersey for the boss

easy game for u trust

[sullen hazel]

i think the boss fleet should have helena and agir

[versed stream]

I don't rly like Helena in campaign, but ig she could work there

[sullen hazel]

@zealous geyser are u still here ?

[astral kindle]

[zealous geyser]

partly

[sullen hazel]

ok the changes are pretty simple

change agir with saint francisco

and make the Fleet 2

[zealous geyser]

wait

what ships do i use

[sullen hazel]

put it like this in the back alsace new jersey aquila in the back
anchorage helena and agir in the front

and move the cats

[versed stream]

You use this fleet as Fleet 1, but Abdou wants you to replace Ägir with San Francisco

[versed stream]

And you use this as fleet 2 against the boss

@zealous geyser

[sullen hazel]

yeah make the formation then we can check their gear after

[zealous geyser]

im confused again

[versed stream]

With what?

[sullen hazel]

change agir with saint france

after doing that press on the right arrow

[versed stream]

Saint France

[zealous geyser]

what ships to use now

[sullen hazel]

k will tell u one by one

put new jersey

done ?

[zealous geyser]

yes

[sullen hazel]

k now anchorage

[zealous geyser]

ok

[sullen hazel]

alsace + aquila in the back

[zealous geyser]

done

[sullen hazel]

helena in the middle and agir in the far right

[zealous geyser]

done

[sullen hazel]

now check the gear on these 12 ships and look if there is one missing a piece
or if it has a non enhanced piece

if u aren't sure about anything or what to upgrade screenshot it

[zealous geyser]

you mean 6

[sullen hazel]

take a look at the mobbing fleet too

u will be using 12

6 for mob 6 for boss

[zealous geyser]

[zealous geyser]

i just put all of these

[versed stream]

For mobbing you will keep using this fleet. Just with San Francisco in the place where Ägir is right now

For the boss you will be using the other fleet Abdou helped you set up just now

[sullen hazel]

i think he has replaced the mobbing team with the bossing one

@zealous geyser do u know we have 6 locations to put formations in ?

[zealous geyser]

?

[sullen hazel]

u can switch between them by pressing on these arrows

it says fleet 1 there

u can press on that and go to fleet 2

[sullen hazel]

press on the fleet 1 or the arrow on the right

[sullen hazel]

ok we need to put something here too

but first seeing that anchorage has a massive level deficit although it shouldn't be that major

i think u want to move agir to the far left and anchorage to the far right

after doing so go back to this screen
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254145175132045373/1261379916436606977/Screenshot_2024.07.12_19.53.21.910.png?ex=6692bf17&is=66916d97&hm=3e0e93d1cd4d8f535608fcc44cad0f82565a12e3110dc1ca35fc4f7bc1a6ba4a&

[zealous geyser]

done

done

[sullen hazel]

and put the mobbing fleet that u were using

[versed stream]

Well then fill that empty screen until it looks like this

[sullen hazel]

unicorn FDG essec

[versed stream]

But with San Francisco instead of Ägir

[sullen hazel]

yeah it is pretty shrimple
if u are confused about anything ask right away

[zealous geyser]

just give me a list of the ships i have to use

[sullen hazel]

unicorn fdg essex in the back

roon z23 and san francisco in the front

now u have 2 fleets ready to blast

[zealous geyser]

done

[sullen hazel]

now check on their gear

and see if there is an empty slot

i know that u are in coin poverty so we will try to put the best we can especially in the boss fleet

[zealous geyser]

no empty slot

but its all mid according to some others

[sullen hazel]

the main parts are these
alsace FDG and new jeresy main guns

agir and roon accessories

[sullen hazel]

seeing these the mob team is in a good spot
i m just not sure about the boss fleet that has alsace in it

can u show alsace and new jeresy gear ?

[sullen hazel]

yeah this should be an easy win

[versed stream]

Should be fine but I'm gonna ask anyway: What other main gun options do you have for Alsace?

[versed stream]

But yeah as long as your Anchor auxes aren't the worst crap ever this should pretty easily clear quite a way

[dense shuttle]

[versed stream]

Yeah just keep what she has rn

[astral kindle]

not to hijack, but is the purple 406 better than the prototype 406?

[sullen hazel]

although the bosses are light armor but TBH it might work just fine

these ships are no joke

[versed stream]

Against light, yes. Assuming you mean Mk6 and Mle, there's a shit ton of 406 out there

[astral kindle]

yeah, the mk6 vs. what berke has right now

on alsace

[sullen hazel]

where are u at now ?

[zealous geyser]

?

[sullen hazel]

go to the 11-3 and fill the 2 slots

the first line fill it with the second fleet

and the second line fill it with the first fleet

and screenshot

are u still here @zealous geyser

[zealous geyser]

still doesnt clear

fuck this bullshit game

fucking impossible

[dense shuttle]

If you can’t give screen shots or recordings of what your fights look like and how your two fleets are equipped and used, we can’t adequately diagnose your problem.

You seem perfectly capable of renaming your second fleet “boss” and cropping your screen shots of gear to ask if it’s good to build, but unable to screen shot your fights or even pay attention enough to understand what is going wrong with them.

You have to be more cooperative in helping us help you if you are going to get better at this game.

I know you’ve blocked me, because you think I talked down to you, and I’m sorry we didn’t get along better.

But I’m still of the opinion that this is a long ellaborate troll to get the most entertaining reactions and results for you, and for that I applaud you, it’s been fun.

But it’s time to stop, if you’re trolling, please just admit it so we can all just clap for you.

If you’re seriously having trouble with the game and our help isn’t seeming to help you, and it’s frustrating you, then you have a choice. To get a different result, you must try something different. And that is either taking our advice and working on changing how you play the game and discovering what you’re doing wrong, or quit, because it’s clearly not clicking with you.

I hope you the best, and if this was all fake, thanks for the entertainment.

[sullen hazel]

yeah the fact that he totally ignored my last instruction about showing the 2 fleets before going in the mission tells a lot about the lack of consistency when trying to follow them
although TBH at the start he did everything we told him to do but then suddenly he disappeared and went to do whatever he was trying to do

very questionable behaviour at the end there

[haughty harness]

he is at 11-3?

needs to put HE gun on alsace and move her to flag, that should be better interception than NJ flag and alsace off-flag. also he wants to auto all of this or is he struggling on manual

[astral kindle]

good luck brother

[sullen hazel]

u should backread a little bit

from here #1254145175132045373 message

[haughty harness]

hm

maybe his agir getting crapped on by the torp spam

not even dev 30

[sullen hazel]

his issue isn't dying

it is running out of the 3min timer

[haughty harness]

ah

[sullen hazel]

i m suspecting since he didn't reply to my last intstruction is that he is still keeping at 1 fleeting even though i asked him to put 2 fleets in and didn't screenshot

[haughty harness]

well if he's using alsace with AP and aquila has some garbo gear on, i could see that

[echo sequoia]

which CAN AND WILL be solved by TURNING ON AUTO

[haughty harness]

though even then alsace barrage should kinda carry

[sullen hazel]

#1254145175132045373 message

[haughty harness]

is it confirmed he even set the fleets to mobs and bosses correctly

[sullen hazel]

nope

[haughty harness]

@zealous geyser still willing to try to clear the stage?

[zealous geyser]

not really tbh

maybe when i got 12 125 ships

[haughty harness]

not necessary at all

we just gotta setup what you have correctly

@zealous geyser can you post what's in here for the stage you're clearing, 11-3 right?

[gaunt girder]

oh dam we're still on this ?