#Help for 2 boss Opsi fleets

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nimble wave
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what levels are your adapats

keen rapids
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248/273/248

nimble wave
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you need to make use of buffers

keen rapids
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is it better to flagship UvH?

nimble wave
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no

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get Kazagumo and Sirius leveled

keen rapids
nimble wave
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put them with Guam in the CV fleet and move Agir back to the BB fleet

keen rapids
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also now that i think about it, i was using 2 normal hellcat on YK2 when it was a heavy armor boss, but a ryusei is prob better?

nimble wave
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yes

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all the fighters in the cv fleet should swapped out for fighter bombers

keen rapids
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would NJ be better than maybe FDG for the AVI buff it has?

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once i level her to 125

nimble wave
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NJ would be better than FDG

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because she does better on single target than her

keen rapids
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makes sense

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what would the BB vanguard look like

nimble wave
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Agir, Helena, Drake/Plymouth

keen rapids
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do i have to try and synch helena?

nimble wave
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your CVs need to be better geared for heavy armor, should look something like that

keen rapids
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i cant do the flapjacks yet since i need the t2 reports for 155mm Kai

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but i can craft sea hornet

nimble wave
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yeah don't

nimble wave
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maybe

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but don't craft the sea hornet it's not worth it

keen rapids
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i see

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guam on this

nimble wave
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stick a roomba on her instead of a sextuple

keen rapids
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would shinano haku be better for heavy than yk2 enterprise?

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it loses on NJ buff too Thinkpitz

nimble wave
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yes

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but you're no where close to maxing both right now

keen rapids
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well if yk2 fleet works on heavy too, then the next UR to upgrade would be better towards the bb fleet?

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in terms of bulins

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also, for light/medium builds, which should go on NJ? and for the CVs? do i still use ryuusei over HVAR hellcat for yk2 on light and on medium the bf 109g?

keen rapids
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since im planning to get Vanguard next, my next bulins should be for her? over shinano

nimble wave
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we don't even know when Vanguard will rerun at this point

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wait and see

keen rapids
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well she should be next for rerun but yeah who knows when the event will drop

nimble wave
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but for now priority is Alsace > Shinano

keen rapids
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i dont think ill be able to get another 4 set of bulins before she reruns tho

keen rapids
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i read alsace needs proper sync to work and idk how to do it

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ill have plymouth at dev30 instead of drake soon too

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if alsace needs her in the fleet

nimble wave
keen rapids
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i dont think i've been syncing mine since UvH has her reload buff and musashi needs to use a different gun

nimble wave
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also a tip, use the updated version of the fleet building tool

keen rapids
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i never used fire control radars before

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if that works ill save it

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but why black shell over white on musashi

nimble wave
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because she's using the table

keen rapids
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i dont have the table

nimble wave
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use another fire control radar then

keen rapids
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still with black shell?

nimble wave
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White Shell

keen rapids
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okok

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if 2 fleets are the norm to kill an arbiter then im behind on dps by like

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50%

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otherwise i can build a scrap 3rd fleet with the bbs i have

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UvH FDG NJ

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but well thanks still, ill finish my vanguard upgrades since those are on the missing side and prob try again maybe i can before this month ends

keen rapids
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@nimble wave only have 3 bf-109g, have 2 pirate squads, who should get those over hellcat on medium armor boss? and who should hold the tenrai?

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i tried putting the slower ones on enterprise

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i guess bf109 is slower

nimble wave
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just do that for medium armor

keen rapids
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my mob fleet is basically the remaining stuff i have built

nimble wave
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and Enterprise with the Tenrai is fine

keen rapids
nimble wave
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also do that for the AA gun set up

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how far off are your Plymouth and Haku from dev 30 at this point

keen rapids
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i plan to exchange for plymouth and dip out of research 5

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since i basically got her gun already

nimble wave
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are those 5 and 6 selector prints?

keen rapids
keen rapids
nimble wave
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how far off you from your 2nd Tenrai

keen rapids
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27 out of 34 in the shop

nimble wave
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and you don't have any Tenrai gear plans in your depot already?

nimble wave
keen rapids
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i have 8

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it shows in the pic

nimble wave
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hmm

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go back to PR4 right now would be my reccomendation

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once you get 8 more Tenrai Blueprints from research go back to PR5

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that should also cover the last of the Blueprints needed to get Haku to Dev 30

keen rapids
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how would i get enough prototype scraps to trade for the remaining 7 in the shop

nimble wave
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have you finished the PR missions yet

keen rapids
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yes

nimble wave
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do you have any catchups left

keen rapids
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i have 2/3/4

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5

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i can catchup 284 AvP blueprints i guess

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22 cheshire bps

nimble wave
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yeah

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that'll easily cover it

keen rapids
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ill drop farming for anchorage then

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have already too many tanks

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i exchange for Plymouth tho right?

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and then move on to 6 or something

nimble wave
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you only need to convert 84 pr prints to cover the cost of the last 7

nimble wave
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I'lll be honest and say I don't know exactly what the move will be since we have PR7 dropping next month which could change a lot of things potentially

keen rapids
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oh really

nimble wave
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yes

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as things stand right now though

keen rapids
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is pr6 not worth farming?

nimble wave
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I would say at least stick around in PR5 long enough to finish Brest as well

nimble wave
keen rapids
nimble wave
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just lower priority compared to 5 and 6

nimble wave
keen rapids
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well if we have pr7 releasing, when would i use my blueprints

nimble wave
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nothing changes on that front

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because you won't be able to use them for PR7 ships

keen rapids
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yeah i mean, if we assume pr7 is that good to farm

nimble wave
keen rapids
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oh really

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i guess i havent seen the ones i maxed

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so makes sense

nimble wave
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so yeah

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you really wanna max all the relevant ships in a season before moving onto the next one

keen rapids
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does that conflict with using blueprints exchange?

nimble wave
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not really

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if anything it's beneficial

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since you can use them to max a ship sooner

keen rapids
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sorry but i really didnt understand if to use my blueprints or not then

nimble wave
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what I'm saying is basically

nimble wave
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all these prints you'll probably end up using on Plymouth

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but wait until you can Dev 30 her before committing them

keen rapids
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ah yeah def i was waiting for that

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if pr7 isnt worth farming, and i can exchange for plymouth dev30 how would the priority end up looking, or if i can get plymouth dev30 before pr7 is even announced

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still keep researching towards brest?

nimble wave
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if PR7 is a low priority

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I would probably reccomend that you stay in PR5

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use the PR5 prints on Plymouth but save the PR6 prints for Kearsarge or Hindenburg

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when you max both Plymouth and Brest

keen rapids
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oh ok so i should keep the pr6 prints

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and farm 116 more plymouth prints basically

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ideally that is

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but im tempted to get her earlier to use for my opsi fleets

nimble wave
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and after that move onto PR6 or 7

nimble wave
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also

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since Hakuryu is so close to dev 30

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Shinano has priority for limit breaking over Alsace

keen rapids
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yeah my initial issue was that basically

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when would i use a 2nd cv fleet, since my other built stopper is Formidable basically

nimble wave
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you would start leveling Ark Royal for that

keen rapids
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would shinano haku ark royal be better than a scrap BB fleet?

nimble wave
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yes

keen rapids
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against every armor type

nimble wave
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plus you're a lot closer to maxing that than another 2 UR BBs

nimble wave
keen rapids
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how would their plane setup look exactly

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also i assume they get the helena composition?

nimble wave
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you'll have to run the calcs yourself I'm afraid, I don't have the AvP set ups anymore

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but Shinano and Haku would run double converging TBs each on heavy

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otherwise set ups wouldn't be too dissimilar compared to Yorktown 2 and Enterprise against light and medium armor

keen rapids
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this for heavy and change aux on Ark royal depending if the airstrike needs to be adjusted?

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or a ju97 for that matter

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oh this one is even faster reload

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but yeah i was a bit skeptical on ark royal since she only debuffs 60% speed compared to setting the speed to 0 even if for lower time of formidable

keen rapids
nimble wave
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they're a bit too slow here for my test

keen rapids
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are the cooldown numbers here to take seriously or not? i didnt input the tech points but does it account for avp reload buff or nah

nimble wave
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you'll have to use a calculator for that

keen rapids
nimble wave
keen rapids
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once i actually get them leveled

keen rapids
nimble wave
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you can't really

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but it works in such a way that

keen rapids
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When this ship launches an airstrike: decreases your Yorktown-class CVs' airstrike loading time by 1% (10%) and decreases it by 3.5% (8%) for your other Essex-class CVs (only affects the currently loading airstrike once; effect does not stack).
this one

nimble wave
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so long as Enterprise is slower than Yorktown 2

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she'll launch right after her

keen rapids
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so if shes a bit slower her airstrike cd overlaps with yk2 basically?

nimble wave
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it doesn't overlap per say

keen rapids
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yeah theres the chaining activation cooldown

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oh i prob have to switch the vanguard compositions

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since i dont have a 3rd ijn

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so switch this to yk2 and put kazagumo here instead

nimble wave
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here's what you're looking at preferably
BB Boss: Musashi, NJ, UvH, Agir, Helena, Plymouth
IJN CVs: Shinano, Hakuryu, Ark Royal, Guam, Kazgaumo, Sirius
EU CVs: Yorktown 2, Enterprise, AvP, Anchorage, Aurora/[ships with the Air Raid Assistance Skill], Laffey 2/San Diego

keen rapids
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mhhhh

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i was trying for helena timing but it looks horrible

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on shinano

nimble wave
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yeah

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that's why she usually goes with the BBs

keen rapids
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well i was timing it fine with yk2 fleet

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damn my hamman 2 is gone

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i can get yuugure i guess

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and retrofit her

keen rapids
nimble wave
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yes

keen rapids
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alright thanks

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seems like i really only went for the stats sticks and skipped to build every buffer

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last question i think for now, would using a faster reload torpedo bomber for light armor scenario be better?

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like saiun kai instead of ryuusei

nimble wave
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I mean

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Just use what syncs

keen rapids
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on enterprise i mean

nimble wave
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well if it doesn't sync better

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then you're just losing damage at that point

keen rapids
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i guess thats true

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i was wondering why its bad to make enterprise faster than yk2

nimble wave
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because of the way the skill works

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doing that just ensures they desync

keen rapids
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yeah but if enterprise gets the airstrike reduced from more she would be able to do maybe one more airstrike in that battle

nimble wave
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she won't

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and even if that were true

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remember you're not syncing to AvP

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so less of each airstrike is actually gonna hit

keen rapids
nimble wave
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okay

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there's a few things you need to bear in mind with ECTL

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first they're primarily tearing around solo performance in the main campaign

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and not in a specific comp in places like Operation Siren

keen rapids
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is there a better guide for opsi fleets?

nimble wave
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sam's fleet building guide has a section on OpSi fleet building

keen rapids
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alsace is included here i assume

nimble wave
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yes

keen rapids
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oh so like for EU comp a composition of any air raid assistance + baltimore would be best

nimble wave
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Baltimore is an option

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I don't know if I would say it's the best

keen rapids
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oh i have her

keen rapids
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i assumed it was defensive

nimble wave
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it is

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but keeping your carrier concealed when they launch also buffs the damage their airstrikes do

keen rapids
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i see, so i guess i wont build her right now

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does aux slot count for laffey 2 eagle union requirement?

nimble wave
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yes

keen rapids
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i thought i had this but ill use the washing machine

nimble wave
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you could just the Manjuu or Pearl Tears on her

keen rapids
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yeah i need to farm the yorktown collection rewards

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oh they are both in ch13-3

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should be easy

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lv120 should be fine on non-dmg ships i assume?

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im basically out of the dark blue chips so if i have to 125 someone it should prob be a main tank or main fleet ship i guess

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or plymouth if she does enough dmg