lets say im gonna do 1-2-1 for boss
#15-4 fleet help
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Give soyuz HE gun 
uh drop haku for percy, your fleet 2 might need more aa
shimanto should use a sexy bofors and quad mag, guam uses a rainbow aa or twin 90,
no percy T_T
you got yorkii?
nah returned to the game at start of unzen event
Aquila?
your support fleet could be improved as well
no auquila too
volga is fine since hes not using sushi
i say give it a go then
I can prolly book chenhai to 120
and see if it works or not
no cogs no array, manjuu pls
do you have Bismarck II?
i still dont know how people run out of those stuff
^
still regret pumping bulins into shima and uvh
could have mlbed laffii
💀
I supposed this is bossing fleet? The reason i asked for Aquila is because even for bossing you still need at least 1 healer.
fleet 2 just fight 1 boss, shouldnt it be fine with subs
There's also this healer French ship i forgot her name.
no need healer since its only taking one fight
if it was taking 1 and 3 then I wouldn't have suggested using percy
unless I ditch ply for juneu kai lmao
Percy would be good since it would give crossfleet to mob. Otherwise no need for healer
nah juneau wouldn't cut it
just make sure you avoid triforce bb node and that if you HAVE to take a bb node never do it out of ammo
Honestly for me the mob struggled even with laff2 and my boss fleet was the weak one so I think the boss is fine
lets say I only have 1 rainbow does it go to guam or sandy
I am bit worried about asw for the mob fleet but +13 hedgehog might be good enough
me would give it to Sandy
that is not sure :v cuz' even 2-triangle Destroyer fleet would also have 2 lines of submarines.
i think guam has higher prio for rainbow aa since she has 2 aa mounts
so sexy to shimanto, ur to guam and twin 90 to sandy?
k lets goooooo
also he gun to soyuz?
Good luck, comrade.
The 2nd boss is light armor
hes gonna have to +13 it anyway
Well depends on his prio but yeah it is worth
do I fight 3 star recon over 2 star cv
I would, at least
Provided your ASW is good
YMMV depending on your specific fleet comp, but at least I found the Recon 3 fleets easier than CV2/BB2
2nd boss was easy af lol
yooo I cleared lol
called sub in too early though
so they fking ded lamo
prolly will try 3 star at safe or after mlb laffii

Congrats
It's cool
My subs died all the time before I figured out the ideal timings too
Congrats mate
Just use fishpack 
Oh true I thought u had wolfpack 
lol
Dying on last fight is fine anyway
does houston 2 only drop from last boss
Well, I cleared pre-Flasher
I went with my unaffiliated sub fleet (back then was Leo/U-47/I-13 iirc)
Problem is, I normally have Leo with Hull + Oxytorp, which was a mistake in hindsight 
fleet 2 was basically full hp after boss fight
even with no aa carries
could have make it do 1 mob lol
Uhhhhh, I think it is meant to be, but early on people definitely got H2 from midbosses
I'm not sure if that was a mistake that was patched or if it's still possible
Ye, the boss fights are actually not that bad AA-wise, fascinatingly
My final boss fleet (although it did 1 and 3) also had no AA carries, just good AA across the board and had no issues
The real threat came from surface damage, as it happens 
had to call sub for the 2 supercarrier nodes though
they hurt like hell
also it helps that I have 2 flame cats
The real struggle is moving subs every 2 fights 
Rip oil
Yeah I feel like cats help a lot
I swapped a mountain BB cat to replace a CV cat for mob and the difference was noticeable
Ye
My mob fleet had Oscar and Justice
Lots of preemptive strikes everywhere, was nice
Maybe I do that for 3 star clear 
Although, admittedly, Justice was kinda wasted talent-wise, because she only helped Hammann
But she DID have Mountain, which was neat
In my case, I think it was pre-Drake 
We need more good fixed talent cats tbh
Cat rework when 
@slate rose
im actauly js trash lmao
3starred at safe with this
u got flame cats or like any good cats
I have drake and 2 other flame cats
i got none lol
Drake?
big skill issue on my end tho, gotta lvl subs to 120 at least, theyre at 110
ill chedck after run
For me to be able to 3 star, i fish for minimal mainfleet mob
Fleet 1 gotta do a bunch of battles at 0 ammo
i js need to pass, which i cant lol
I prolly have better gear than u though
u have 3 sets of biders right?
I have 1 ur aa too
Nah just 3 bidders
Can just use g7e lol doesnt change much
I prolly have more +13 than u
yea u have better gear than me
+13 457 helps
i started grinding game rly late
yea i gotta work on alsace and subs
oh yea about the super carriers
u use mob as well right?
im pretty sure i have most of the gear u have in mob, i jsut need to get alsace to 120
Which other ur bbs u have?
sashi, zwei, soyuz, nj
The other fleet can have subpar gear cos boss 2 is piss ez
Just use musashi lol
Musashi is the most broken bb for w15
i mean im just lveling alsacw as well since im spamming 12-4 for coins for rondo
leveling subs and bb as well along the way
can i see sub gear
Oh i have 5 bidders already lol
Can just use 1 bidder 1 g7e if u have less
Difference isnt that big
110 subs wont save me in 15-4 right
Your sub will do 20% less dmg
thats a big amount isnt it
Which i think is still passable
Slap any cats in
Flame only matters a lot when 3 starring
Also oscar for fleet 1 helps alot
Can shave 14% hp off mob

cuz iirc i had a oscar
what color cat is drakje
how much money have u put in cats to get so much flame cats
and tbh i still dont know anything abt cats
or like which ones are reroll worthy
how do u know chihc ones u can reroll
If u hit most relevant talents
Yea
and subs im trying to aim for the alpha hunter thingy and lame?
idk which talents are good
Alpha wolf and torp/reload talent
That is 2nd boss
I tried using ur fleet but with sashi
had to use a free repair for her as well
Show sushi gear@slate rose
Did u call sub on both supercarriers?
And only fight recon node?
Try ditching shimanto for laffi
And avoid mainfleet nodes
Also sushi runs 410kai for main gun
Is this enough? For laff2 mob
Main fleet are bbs and cvs right
I’ve only been doing yellow dd nodes
Cv 2star is prolly doable
Your vg takes way too much dmg
Try guam sandy laffii
U cant+13 your aa gun?
Did u leak sub and/or bomb boat
Leaking some planes is normal
i +13 UR AA
+13 sexy and twin 90 too
Then +13 sexy
and sexy will go on sandy right?
Yea
what formation
Double line
leaking a lot of planes
dunno why
everyones almost full hp but sashi
is that normal?
This is after 2nd cv with subs and double line
Thats fine you will heal up on 2 star recon
not rly
lol
just did one and fleet still sitn doing as well
should i try using boss for first boss
cuz it did 2nd one without losing more than 5% hp
first boss and 2nd boss?
Yea
how abt first and 3rd
hopefully
Wait whats your boss fleet

So yea back on the day
I ever knew gph existed
So I just kinda did whatever
This should be able to do last boss right?
and i just fat fingered a 3 star mob
nice
nope mob died
lol
gona go level subs'
This should be able to do last boss with subs
yea i gotta fx up my mob cuz they dying a lot\
its easier to just make your mob stronger and make it take boss 1 and 3 then stack crossfleet on fleet 2 and make it take just boss 2
mob is as strong as it can get
cuz boss 2 is pretty weak, you can get away with putting your best gear on mob
i guess im in no rush to do 15-4 yet
until i passively level my subs and better ships
ill hold on to these threads as future reference
Did u try aa formation on the 1st 2 supercarriers
yea
mob made it out
but started dying in 2 star nodes
i mean granted mob came out of 2nd cv pretty bad
Backline or vg died?
Oh did u+13 the rudders
what
It helped with mine
See my gears
i was saving for rondo as well lol
All vg with +13 rudders
i see that bscailly everything is +13
Eh torps are w/e
The aa and +13 rudders help
Rondo is w/e
I prolly just gonna use free tix
i ran this exact setup
i use circle for super cv and double for everything else
*if your backline is low use circle, if your vg is low use double line
Volga prolly worse with sushi though
Also i did run another depth charge on shimanto
subs are fine
yea shes not great with sushi, use different bb if use volga
my phone dying
its on 1%, gl
really why is that?, do their skills overlap?
oh i just reroll until no triforce
rly?
oh yea so why is volga not good with sashi
Aquila heals sushi everytime guaranteed and heals more each time
Volga heals is more random so u want your backline to take dmg equally
When u run sushi she takes almost all backline dmg protecting the other 2 ships
absolutely amazing
its only easier if your aa bad
Almost full auto 15-4 with this, still gotta pick up ammo node though
Also ryuuhou cope lol, no aquila sadge
im lvling up indep rn
@prime bay for your first 15-4 clear, did you use boss fleet on boss 1 & 2
Nah boss does boss 2 only
@slate rose
Basivally u make fleet 1 as strong as possible, and stack crossfleet on fleet 2
thanks
Hence the take with indep
Boss 2 is a pushover so shift your best gears to mob
With volga and no aquila try another bb not musashi
Cos she takes too much dmg without aquila prolly
i just copied your first clear fleet, i think i have same gear and ships as you, so ill try that, i just dont have cats and tech
Slap any cats on, it helps
was first clear a struggle?
Wth
also sandy already died on 2nd supercarrier lol
dont i have to take out both supercarrier nodes first?
Recon nodes are your place to heal up
Yes
Do reset if dmg spikes a lot
they keep dying on 2nd one, do i jsuit reset?
Eh did u double line
If vg dying try double line
And use sub on the 2 supercarriers
They hurt
With guam+sandy u should cover your aa need
Did you clear @slate rose
still tryhing
idk whats wrong with my fleets but keeps dying 2nd boss, so im just trying and see whst works
Huh you are dying in 2nd boss?
not 2nd boss, 2nd supercarrier
Vanguard or main dying?
vanguard if no double main if circle
No plates for +13 sexy?
i can take the +13 out of ply for shimanto
yes
Do you have perseus
Put her in fleet 2 as well
she has crossfleet?
Eh u dont have enough gold g7e?
Thats all for now
also why am i being hit my airstrikes while travelling thru map
U really should have air supremacy not superiority
how to do that
What is your boss fleet
They need more fighters/avi
Or you need more aa in both fleets 
soyuz,perseus, indep
Can try the purple fast torps for shimanto as well. Possible better for survivability
Can you show their gear? 
right here, i listened to alex for gear reccs
K if u cant hit air supremacy with percy swap it back to haku /yorkii
il show soon, middle of run rn, am i supposed to do last boss with out of ammo mob @prime bay
what if i said the ammo node was gone
Wth
oh wait fuck it was the ambushes eating up my ammo
mihgt as well see it through
U cant hit air supremacy with percy means time to swap her for a big cv
im a bit hesitant to give up this run bc i hit really good rng, every node was recon yellow 2 traingle
not every, like enough for me to spwan bosses
Try to let boss fight 1 mob then
Yeah last boss on ooa seems impossible
If u get another ambush its gg though
already on 0 ammo
am i doing something wrong? i threw in haku in replacement of perseus and im still on air superiority
wait no i forgot the change fleet 💀
Double check the value when u actually sortie
It changes in the map based on your aa
Still somehow encountering ambushes and air strikes
What is the boss fleet gear 
I used haku nano and had green ACV 
Not exactly the best acv ships
indep there for crossfleet
U have to be rly close though
Are you using your best cats?
I think cat aa also helps
Gimme a sec to double check
It is probably the brest being dev25 getting the aa down
Who else do you have besides haku
No yorkii?
no
shes 5 bps from d30
give me like 15 hours
This should get me five right
Definitely that is overkill
Oh wait u are on AS+ now
Must be evasion then
evasion?
Ambush chance is based on total evasion and avi stat
But yeah kinda weird
Usually having green air fixes it
U dont have laff2 maxed I suppose?
i do
Why not use her then 
I think her evasion might help reach the required recon value
I used laff2 mob and sandy boss before her augment
I think laffey2 should work in boss tbh
alright i made some adjustments, i just put laff2 in mob
tf, i still get ambushes
idek how to fix it
Are you still on air supremacy?
yea
Damn…. How did an extra 150 evasion not help 
Let me ask in gph I must be missing sth about recon
What is your recon value?
idk if im looking at the right thing but its red
im 168 
alright so i put a gold catapult on volga which solved the airspace control problem
now i just need recon
Wait how much was it with laff2
?
Can u swap laffey instead of sandy and check again just to double check?
Why is it stuck in 168 
It is a weird formula so u need a lot of evasion to increase I think
Laffey needs to be in the mob
Since recon takes the best fleet value
U can put sandy in boss
That is how I did it
I think shimanto’s smoke screen is very valuable in mob
That was probably cuz u didn’t have full green acv tbh
My mob was same just with soyuz and Alsace swapped and it worked fine
I used circle tho
Use circle formation for the super carriers at least
My volga was even 120
Also put any flame or mountain cat in your mob if u have
Any other talent is subpar I think
No
cuz only UR dd gun i have is on laff2
Sandy prefers dd guns
ill just use twin 130 then
Boss fleet should be fine tbh
The second boss is weak as hell
Can put ply gun on alsace if u take her out
about that, idk when correct time is
Also pick the ammo and hit them with the support airstrike
Summon them on the wave just before the carriers so they come and nuke it
which wave is that?
I forgot how many waves it was
As long as u dont insta summon it should be okay
After 20-30 seconds is probably good enough
oh alright
I forgot 
U can reset the fight if u took too much damage
Just leave before it ends and fight it again
U will learn the proper time yourself 
i usuallyt summon around the 2 minute mark
And for the second super carrier node u pick up the ammo so u are 5/5 ammo for the bonus damage ok?
I think that might be a bit late tbh
Summon just before the carriers spawn
If u are not happy about the timing just reset the fight like I said
i fight both supercarriers back to back
Also dont forget to use the airstrike on the super carrier nodes
It does like 10% dmg which is significant
Yeah that is advisable but pick up the ammo in between the fights
When u are 5/5 ammo your fleet deals more dmg 
So 5/5 ammo > fight super carrier #1 > 4/5 ammo > pick up ammo > 5/5 ammo > carrier #2 
Yeah I did that too
i trust u
I dont know how ppl do 2 fights with the other fleet
ima go try it
Good luck
shoud i have put shimanto in the middle
That is what I did yeah
Check the w15 command and try and follow the gear and positions
If they get low after the carrier fleets it is fine tbh u can recover on the mobs
Were you on circle formation?
Is your support CV fleet also on good gear?
That is the only thing we havent checked
I had one sextuple at +13 otherwise my gear was worse than yours 
Ngl I prefer soyuz on mob more
She buffs carriers better than alsace
Last battle, circle or double line
If vs carriers circle
Otherwise double line
Your van is fine tbh can just keep circle if u are worried about backline
yea ill use circle for final boss
Dont forget the subs 
theres a plane problem lol
also in boss when to s[awn suibs
i usuallt do right before bosss spawns
Similar to carrier fleets
Try and spawn just before boss
Should be fine yeah
Ngl I felt 15-2 boss was strongest so I believe you will be okay 
Subs rly helped there
If u timed them right u could make sure your CV wipe the salvos
But yeah wasnt fun lol
Oof that was close lol
laff2 was on the verge of death
Soyuz might be better in mob just saying
Her CV buffs probably help more here
ill try that out
Actually over for me
this shit happened after i swapped alsace for soyuz lol
also should i try to replace rudder on laff2 for manjuu @junior badge
Oh god……
AL moment
I would use manjuu yeah
More assurance
Extra evasion wont do much here
Unless it also causes u to have low recon 
Now I am really curious how I had green recon
I even used +10 rudders 
tech?
Just means strategy I think lol
Like homing beacon on CV strategy/tech
It is a confusing term 
Sry
I am genuinly curious what is happening here
If it wasnt so late I would crunch the numbers 
to counter the no recon problem
i just put a catapult on uni
which solved the problem
wait
it did not, still 1 off
soyuz in mob works really well
did both super carriers and came out with only a sliver of hp lost
After 1 mob and 2 super carriers
Eh the avi lost is miniscule

alsace also gets the french buff with brest and JDA in boss fleet
which is not game breaking but still a nice bonus
no pr7 grind for me lol gotta finish 15-4 with the oil
yea
maybe i should try it sometime
need a lot of fiddling around to be able to fight 3star cv/bb OOA
including 3x AA radar lel
could have been easier if I just have a 2nd volga or aquila lol
lol
old boss fleet of soyuz volga indep guam jeanne ply fails miserably without volga




