#15-4 fleet help

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prime bay
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any change?

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Give soyuz HE gun BuckyPrideZoom

inland vessel
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uh drop haku for percy, your fleet 2 might need more aa
shimanto should use a sexy bofors and quad mag, guam uses a rainbow aa or twin 90,

prime bay
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no percy T_T

inland vessel
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NagaThonk you got yorkii?

prime bay
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nah returned to the game at start of unzen event

tribal swan
inland vessel
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your support fleet could be improved as well

prime bay
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no auquila too

inland vessel
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i say give it a go then

prime bay
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I can prolly book chenhai to 120

inland vessel
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and see if it works or not

prime bay
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no cogs no array, manjuu pls

tribal swan
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do you have Bismarck II?

inland vessel
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i still dont know how people run out of those stuff

prime bay
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still regret pumping bulins into shima and uvh

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could have mlbed laffii

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💀

inland vessel
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its not that bad

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your fleet 1 looks fine, im just worried about fleet 2

tribal swan
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I supposed this is bossing fleet? The reason i asked for Aquila is because even for bossing you still need at least 1 healer.

prime bay
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fleet 2 just fight 1 boss, shouldnt it be fine with subs

tribal swan
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There's also this healer French ship i forgot her name.

inland vessel
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no need healer since its only taking one fight

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if it was taking 1 and 3 then I wouldn't have suggested using percy

prime bay
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unless I ditch ply for juneu kai lmao

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Percy would be good since it would give crossfleet to mob. Otherwise no need for healer

inland vessel
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nah juneau wouldn't cut it

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just make sure you avoid triforce bb node and that if you HAVE to take a bb node never do it out of ammo

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Honestly for me the mob struggled even with laff2 and my boss fleet was the weak one so I think the boss is fine

prime bay
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lets say I only have 1 rainbow does it go to guam or sandy

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I am bit worried about asw for the mob fleet but +13 hedgehog might be good enough

tribal swan
inland vessel
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its enough

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sandy asw is pretty good

tribal swan
inland vessel
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i think guam has higher prio for rainbow aa since she has 2 aa mounts

prime bay
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so sexy to shimanto, ur to guam and twin 90 to sandy?

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k lets goooooo

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also he gun to soyuz?

inland vessel
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Good luck, comrade.

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The 2nd boss is light armor

prime bay
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oh ok just +13 a mk7

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should be handy

inland vessel
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wakatsuki is light armour

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i forgot who the other one was but i assume is dd too

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Also hatsuzuki JeanDead

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Dont need +13 unless u wanna do it anyway

inland vessel
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hes gonna have to +13 it anyway

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Well depends on his prio but yeah it is worth

prime bay
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do I fight 3 star recon over 2 star cv

honest marsh
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I would, at least
Provided your ASW is good
YMMV depending on your specific fleet comp, but at least I found the Recon 3 fleets easier than CV2/BB2

prime bay
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2nd boss was easy af lol

honest marsh
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Best of luck with the rest

prime bay
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yooo I cleared lol

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called sub in too early though

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so they fking ded lamo

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prolly will try 3 star at safe or after mlb laffii

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UniFlex
Congrats

honest marsh
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It's cool
My subs died all the time before I figured out the ideal timings too

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Congrats mate

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Just use fishpack AkagiLUL

prime bay
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well I used fishpack lol

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boss dead at 1:30 though

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I called sub at 2:30

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Oh true I thought u had wolfpack PortDoll

prime bay
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lol

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Dying on last fight is fine anyway

prime bay
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does houston 2 only drop from last boss

honest marsh
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Well, I cleared pre-Flasher
I went with my unaffiliated sub fleet (back then was Leo/U-47/I-13 iirc)
Problem is, I normally have Leo with Hull + Oxytorp, which was a mistake in hindsight PortDoll

prime bay
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fleet 2 was basically full hp after boss fight

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even with no aa carries

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could have make it do 1 mob lol

honest marsh
honest marsh
# prime bay even with no aa carries

Ye, the boss fights are actually not that bad AA-wise, fascinatingly
My final boss fleet (although it did 1 and 3) also had no AA carries, just good AA across the board and had no issues
The real threat came from surface damage, as it happens PortDoll

prime bay
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had to call sub for the 2 supercarrier nodes though

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they hurt like hell

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also it helps that I have 2 flame cats

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The real struggle is moving subs every 2 fights BiskoLUL
Rip oil

prime bay
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and 1 of them is oscar

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oscar fking OP lol

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Yeah I feel like cats help a lot
I swapped a mountain BB cat to replace a CV cat for mob and the difference was noticeable

prime bay
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oscar whacks most mob for 14% hp

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which is pretty nuts

honest marsh
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Ye

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My mob fleet had Oscar and Justice

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Lots of preemptive strikes everywhere, was nice

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Maybe I do that for 3 star clear Noteshiro

honest marsh
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Although, admittedly, Justice was kinda wasted talent-wise, because she only helped Hammann
But she DID have Mountain, which was neat

prime bay
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I used drake lol

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free flame

honest marsh
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In my case, I think it was pre-Drake PortDoll
We need more good fixed talent cats tbh

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Cat rework when Omegalilwoo

honest marsh
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Or really just an overhaul of cats...

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Heh, read my mind

prime bay
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@slate rose

slate rose
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im actauly js trash lmao

prime bay
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3starred at safe with this

slate rose
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u got flame cats or like any good cats

prime bay
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I have drake and 2 other flame cats

slate rose
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i got none lol

prime bay
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Drake?

slate rose
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big skill issue on my end tho, gotta lvl subs to 120 at least, theyre at 110

slate rose
prime bay
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For me to be able to 3 star, i fish for minimal mainfleet mob

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Fleet 1 gotta do a bunch of battles at 0 ammo

slate rose
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i js need to pass, which i cant lol

prime bay
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I prolly have better gear than u though

slate rose
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yea

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only have 1 ur AA

prime bay
slate rose
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u have 3 sets of biders right?

prime bay
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I have 1 ur aa too

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Nah just 3 bidders

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Can just use g7e lol doesnt change much

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I prolly have more +13 than u

slate rose
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yea u have better gear than me

prime bay
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+13 457 helps

slate rose
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i started grinding game rly late

prime bay
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For 15-4 i focus on fleet 1

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Fleet 2 just do boss 2

slate rose
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ill probably reattempt it when i have the levels and gear,

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1 is mob yea?

prime bay
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Yea

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Fleet 1 does everything

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Only kill recon node after the 2 supercarriers

slate rose
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yea i gotta work on alsace and subs

slate rose
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u use mob as well right?

prime bay
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Yea

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Call subs onto them

slate rose
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im pretty sure i have most of the gear u have in mob, i jsut need to get alsace to 120

prime bay
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Which other ur bbs u have?

slate rose
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sashi, zwei, soyuz, nj

prime bay
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The other fleet can have subpar gear cos boss 2 is piss ez

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Just use musashi lol

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Musashi is the most broken bb for w15

slate rose
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i mean im just lveling alsacw as well since im spamming 12-4 for coins for rondo

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leveling subs and bb as well along the way

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can i see sub gear

prime bay
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Oh i have 5 bidders already lol

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Can just use 1 bidder 1 g7e if u have less

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Difference isnt that big

slate rose
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110 subs wont save me in 15-4 right

prime bay
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Your sub will do 20% less dmg

slate rose
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thats a big amount isnt it

prime bay
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Which i think is still passable

slate rose
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damn

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i mean i dont haev cats

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the only flame cat i have is unironically for subs

prime bay
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Slap any cats in

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Flame only matters a lot when 3 starring

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Also oscar for fleet 1 helps alot

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Can shave 14% hp off mob

slate rose
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any oscar?

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or oscar with good talent

prime bay
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Need lvl 3 skill i think

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Any oscar

slate rose
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cuz iirc i had a oscar

prime bay
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Slight flex, i got lucky

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Didnt hit soulful though

slate rose
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still good

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I still have her but she’s bad

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what other cat to use

prime bay
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Cv cat prolly

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Or any cat with flame/mountain

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Or just drake

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Drake is free

slate rose
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what color cat is drakje

prime bay
slate rose
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how much money have u put in cats to get so much flame cats

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and tbh i still dont know anything abt cats

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or like which ones are reroll worthy

prime bay
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Nah i only sunk like 200k

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Got lucky tbh

slate rose
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how do u know chihc ones u can reroll

prime bay
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If u hit most relevant talents

slate rose
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as their starting talent?

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Say I have this guy, is it reroll worthy ?

prime bay
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Yea

slate rose
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and subs im trying to aim for the alpha hunter thingy and lame?

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idk which talents are good

prime bay
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Alpha wolf and torp/reload talent

slate rose
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That is 2nd boss

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I tried using ur fleet but with sashi

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had to use a free repair for her as well

prime bay
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Show sushi gear@slate rose

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Did u call sub on both supercarriers?

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And only fight recon node?

slate rose
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yes

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its the super carriers that kill me

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i should be able to do it idk why i cant

prime bay
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Try ditching shimanto for laffi

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And avoid mainfleet nodes

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Also sushi runs 410kai for main gun

slate rose
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Is this enough? For laff2 mob

slate rose
prime bay
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No rudder lol

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I mean bb node

slate rose
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I’ve only been doing yellow dd nodes

prime bay
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Cv 2star is prolly doable

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Your vg takes way too much dmg

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Try guam sandy laffii

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U cant+13 your aa gun?

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Did u leak sub and/or bomb boat

slate rose
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i leak plane

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idk how

slate rose
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i infact can

prime bay
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Leaking some planes is normal

slate rose
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i +13 UR AA

prime bay
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+13 sexy and twin 90 too

slate rose
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alright

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i dont have enouygh

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mats

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i have like 170 left

prime bay
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Then +13 sexy

slate rose
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and sexy will go on sandy right?

prime bay
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Yea

slate rose
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what formation

prime bay
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Double line

slate rose
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leaking a lot of planes

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dunno why

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everyones almost full hp but sashi

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is that normal?

prime bay
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Yea

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Musashi takes all dmg for your remaining main fleet

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Leaking some planes is fine

slate rose
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This is after 2nd cv with subs and double line

prime bay
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Thats fine you will heal up on 2 star recon

slate rose
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not rly

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lol

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just did one and fleet still sitn doing as well

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should i try using boss for first boss

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cuz it did 2nd one without losing more than 5% hp

prime bay
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U cant do 2 bosses in a row

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Cos debuff

slate rose
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first boss and 2nd boss?

prime bay
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Yea

slate rose
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how abt first and 3rd

prime bay
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That works

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But u sure your boss fleet can handle boss3?

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Boss 3 is tough

slate rose
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hopefully

prime bay
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Wait whats your boss fleet

slate rose
prime bay
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Show

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Oh

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Run indep over shinano

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If you want your fleet 1 to carry

slate rose
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so uh

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i dont have indep even unlocked

prime bay
slate rose
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So yea back on the day

prime bay
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Then your boss fleet has to do boss 1 and 3

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Try and see

slate rose
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I ever knew gph existed

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So I just kinda did whatever

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This should be able to do last boss right?

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and i just fat fingered a 3 star mob

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nice

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nope mob died

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lol

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gona go level subs'

prime bay
slate rose
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yea i gotta fx up my mob cuz they dying a lot\

prime bay
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Try anti air on 2 supercarriers nodes

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Then double line the rest

slate rose
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its mob that dies

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sad

inland vessel
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its easier to just make your mob stronger and make it take boss 1 and 3 then stack crossfleet on fleet 2 and make it take just boss 2

slate rose
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mob is as strong as it can get

inland vessel
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cuz boss 2 is pretty weak, you can get away with putting your best gear on mob

slate rose
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i guess im in no rush to do 15-4 yet

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until i passively level my subs and better ships

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ill hold on to these threads as future reference

prime bay
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Did u try aa formation on the 1st 2 supercarriers

slate rose
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yea

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mob made it out

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but started dying in 2 star nodes

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i mean granted mob came out of 2nd cv pretty bad

prime bay
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Backline or vg died?

slate rose
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sashi almost died and vg was low

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ill put it off until better account

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honestly

prime bay
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Oh did u+13 the rudders

slate rose
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what

prime bay
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It helped with mine

slate rose
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lemme do that rq

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rip coins

prime bay
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See my gears

slate rose
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i was saving for rondo as well lol

prime bay
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All vg with +13 rudders

slate rose
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i see that bscailly everything is +13

prime bay
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Eh torps are w/e

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The aa and +13 rudders help

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Rondo is w/e

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I prolly just gonna use free tix

inland vessel
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i ran this exact setup

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i use circle for super cv and double for everything else

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*if your backline is low use circle, if your vg is low use double line

prime bay
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Volga prolly worse with sushi though

slate rose
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no aquila

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sadf

prime bay
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Also i did run another depth charge on shimanto

slate rose
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subs are fine

inland vessel
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my phone dying

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its on 1%, gl

slate rose
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really why is that?, do their skills overlap?

prime bay
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Cos there still slight leak with hedgehog and plane only

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On triforce recon node

slate rose
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oh i just reroll until no triforce

prime bay
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Well u gonna have to fight triforce recon anyway

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Imo its easier than 2star cv nodr

slate rose
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rly?

prime bay
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Yea

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Less pressure on backline

slate rose
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oh yea so why is volga not good with sashi

prime bay
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Aquila heals sushi everytime guaranteed and heals more each time

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Volga heals is more random so u want your backline to take dmg equally

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When u run sushi she takes almost all backline dmg protecting the other 2 ships

slate rose
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absolutely amazing

prime bay
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Try bz mob sushi boss and see how it fares

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Bz with 457mm

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Sushi with 410kai

inland vessel
prime bay
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Almost full auto 15-4 with this, still gotta pick up ammo node though

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Also ryuuhou cope lol, no aquila sadge

slate rose
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im lvling up indep rn

slate rose
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@prime bay for your first 15-4 clear, did you use boss fleet on boss 1 & 2

prime bay
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Nah boss does boss 2 only

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@slate rose

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Basivally u make fleet 1 as strong as possible, and stack crossfleet on fleet 2

slate rose
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thanks

prime bay
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Hence the take with indep

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Boss 2 is a pushover so shift your best gears to mob

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With volga and no aquila try another bb not musashi

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Cos she takes too much dmg without aquila prolly

slate rose
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i just copied your first clear fleet, i think i have same gear and ships as you, so ill try that, i just dont have cats and tech

prime bay
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Slap any cats on, it helps

slate rose
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was first clear a struggle?

prime bay
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Think 1 vg died in last boss

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But thats fine

slate rose
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i keep getting air striked when moving thru tiles

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never happened before

prime bay
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Wth

slate rose
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also sandy already died on 2nd supercarrier lol

prime bay
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Prolly bad rng

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Keep resetting

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Try hitting recon only

slate rose
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dont i have to take out both supercarrier nodes first?

prime bay
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Recon nodes are your place to heal up

prime bay
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Do reset if dmg spikes a lot

slate rose
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they keep dying on 2nd one, do i jsuit reset?

prime bay
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Eh did u double line

slate rose
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ah alright

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i did circle

prime bay
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If vg dying try double line

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And use sub on the 2 supercarriers

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They hurt

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With guam+sandy u should cover your aa need

prime bay
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Did you clear @slate rose

slate rose
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still tryhing

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idk whats wrong with my fleets but keeps dying 2nd boss, so im just trying and see whst works

prime bay
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Huh you are dying in 2nd boss?

slate rose
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not 2nd boss, 2nd supercarrier

prime bay
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Vanguard or main dying?

slate rose
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vanguard if no double main if circle

prime bay
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Can you show fleet and gear

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Did you call sub

slate rose
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yea

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yea

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my subs arent great

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all 120 but torps are really bad

prime bay
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No plates for +13 sexy?

slate rose
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i can take the +13 out of ply for shimanto

prime bay
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That should be the case

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Boss 2 is rly weak anything works there

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Is indep there

slate rose
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yes

prime bay
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Do you have perseus

slate rose
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yea

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i havent tested boss fleet yet

prime bay
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Put her in fleet 2 as well

slate rose
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she has crossfleet?

prime bay
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Yea

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Uni should go with beacon+plane

slate rose
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alright

prime bay
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Eh u dont have enough gold g7e?

slate rose
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nope

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how else can i fix my mob or is that all

prime bay
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Thats all for now

slate rose
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when do i pop subs

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This is after the 2 super carrier battles

prime bay
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Eh thats fine

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Now just go fight recon nodes to heal up

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They are more or less free

slate rose
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also why am i being hit my airstrikes while travelling thru map

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U really should have air supremacy not superiority

prime bay
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Oh yea

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Wheres air supremacy

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💀

slate rose
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how to do that

junior badge
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What is your boss fleet
They need more fighters/avi

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Or you need more aa in both fleets Deadge

slate rose
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soyuz,perseus, indep

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Can try the purple fast torps for shimanto as well. Possible better for survivability

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Can you show their gear? NagaThonk

slate rose
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I meant boss fleet gear

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ACV takes both fleet into account

prime bay
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K if u cant hit air supremacy with percy swap it back to haku /yorkii

slate rose
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il show soon, middle of run rn, am i supposed to do last boss with out of ammo mob @prime bay

prime bay
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No you have ammo node dude

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💀

slate rose
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what if i said the ammo node was gone

prime bay
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Wth

slate rose
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oh wait fuck it was the ambushes eating up my ammo

prime bay
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Oh lmao

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Reset time

slate rose
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mihgt as well see it through

prime bay
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U cant hit air supremacy with percy means time to swap her for a big cv

slate rose
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im a bit hesitant to give up this run bc i hit really good rng, every node was recon yellow 2 traingle

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not every, like enough for me to spwan bosses

prime bay
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Try to let boss fight 1 mob then

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Yeah last boss on ooa seems impossible

prime bay
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If u get another ambush its gg though

slate rose
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already on 0 ammo

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am i doing something wrong? i threw in haku in replacement of perseus and im still on air superiority

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wait no i forgot the change fleet 💀

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Double check the value when u actually sortie
It changes in the map based on your aa

slate rose
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Still somehow encountering ambushes and air strikes

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What is the boss fleet gear PortDoll

slate rose
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oh yea

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I used haku nano and had green ACV Thinkpitz
Not exactly the best acv ships

slate rose
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indep there for crossfleet

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U have to be rly close though
Are you using your best cats?
I think cat aa also helps
Gimme a sec to double check

slate rose
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best i have JavSigh

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It is probably the brest being dev25 getting the aa down
Who else do you have besides haku
No yorkii?

slate rose
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no

slate rose
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give me like 15 hours

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This should get me five right

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Definitely that is overkill

prime bay
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Surely brest isnt the problem

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Its puzzling u are getting ambushes at air supremacy

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Oh wait u are on AS+ now
Must be evasion then

slate rose
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evasion?

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Ambush chance is based on total evasion and avi stat

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But yeah kinda weird
Usually having green air fixes it

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U dont have laff2 maxed I suppose?

slate rose
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i do

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Why not use her then NagaThonk

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I think her evasion might help reach the required recon value

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I used laff2 mob and sandy boss before her augment
I think laffey2 should work in boss tbh

slate rose
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alright i made some adjustments, i just put laff2 in mob

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tf, i still get ambushes

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idek how to fix it

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Are you still on air supremacy?

slate rose
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yea

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Damn…. How did an extra 150 evasion not help PortDoll

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Let me ask in gph I must be missing sth about recon

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What is your recon value?

slate rose
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idk if im looking at the right thing but its red

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There should be a number

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U want 172 for green

slate rose
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im 168 BataanCry

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So close

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We just need a bit more avi or evasion in the stronger fleet

slate rose
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alright so i put a gold catapult on volga which solved the airspace control problem

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now i just need recon

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Wait how much was it with laff2 NagaThonk ?

slate rose
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eva doesnt solve recon btw

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i +13 rudder

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no work

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or im wrong idk

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Can u swap laffey instead of sandy and check again just to double check?

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Why is it stuck in 168 PortDoll

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It is a weird formula so u need a lot of evasion to increase I think

slate rose
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yea laff works if swapped with sandy

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i cna prolly swap with ply right?

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Laffey needs to be in the mob
Since recon takes the best fleet value

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U can put sandy in boss
That is how I did it

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I think shimanto’s smoke screen is very valuable in mob

slate rose
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mob dies without sandy

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wait ima use faster torps for shimanto

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That was probably cuz u didn’t have full green acv tbh

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My mob was same just with soyuz and Alsace swapped and it worked fine
I used circle tho
Use circle formation for the super carriers at least

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My volga was even 120

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Also put any flame or mountain cat in your mob if u have
Any other talent is subpar I think

slate rose
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should i put plygun on snady

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sandy

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No

slate rose
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cuz only UR dd gun i have is on laff2

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Sandy prefers dd guns

slate rose
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ill just use twin 130 then

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Boss fleet should be fine tbh

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The second boss is weak as hell

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Can put ply gun on alsace if u take her out

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i put it on jda

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just for more firepower

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Sure that is fine

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Call the subs at the correct time for the super carriers

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about that, idk when correct time is

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Also pick the ammo and hit them with the support airstrike

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Summon them on the wave just before the carriers so they come and nuke it

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which wave is that?

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I forgot how many waves it was
As long as u dont insta summon it should be okay
After 20-30 seconds is probably good enough

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oh alright

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U can reset the fight if u took too much damage
Just leave before it ends and fight it again

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U will learn the proper time yourself Blessex

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i usuallyt summon around the 2 minute mark

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And for the second super carrier node u pick up the ammo so u are 5/5 ammo for the bonus damage ok?

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Summon just before the carriers spawn
If u are not happy about the timing just reset the fight like I said

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Also dont forget to use the airstrike on the super carrier nodes
It does like 10% dmg which is significant

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So 5/5 ammo > fight super carrier #1 > 4/5 ammo > pick up ammo > 5/5 ammo > carrier #2 WhydahXD

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i see

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i might not be cooking, but yk im using mob on last boss too right?

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Yeah I did that too

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i trust u

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I dont know how ppl do 2 fights with the other fleet

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ima go try it

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Good luck

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shoud i have put shimanto in the middle

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That is what I did yeah

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Check the w15 command and try and follow the gear and positions

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i cant get my backline to stop dying

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theyre constantly low

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If they get low after the carrier fleets it is fine tbh u can recover on the mobs

Were you on circle formation?

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Is your support CV fleet also on good gear?
That is the only thing we havent checked

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I had one sextuple at +13 otherwise my gear was worse than yours PortDoll

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Ngl I prefer soyuz on mob more
She buffs carriers better than alsace

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Last battle, circle or double line

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If vs carriers circle
Otherwise double line

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Your van is fine tbh can just keep circle if u are worried about backline

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yea ill use circle for final boss

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Dont forget the subs MutsukiHyperStare

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theres a plane problem lol

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also in boss when to s[awn suibs

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i usuallt do right before bosss spawns

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Similar to carrier fleets
Try and spawn just before boss

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Should be fine yeah

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Ngl I felt 15-2 boss was strongest so I believe you will be okay Glowow

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never doing 15-2 again

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never again

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Subs rly helped there
If u timed them right u could make sure your CV wipe the salvos

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But yeah wasnt fun lol

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Almost over thanks a lot guys

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Oof that was close lol

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laff2 was on the verge of death

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Soyuz might be better in mob just saying
Her CV buffs probably help more here

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ill try that out

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Actually over for me

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this shit happened after i swapped alsace for soyuz lol

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also should i try to replace rudder on laff2 for manjuu @junior badge

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Oh god……

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AL moment

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I would use manjuu yeah
More assurance
Extra evasion wont do much here

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Unless it also causes u to have low recon PortDoll

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Now I am really curious how I had green recon
I even used +10 rudders wat

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tech?

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Just means strategy I think lol

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Like homing beacon on CV strategy/tech

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It is a confusing term ChampyXD

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Sry

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Weird, i have green recon just fine with sandy instead of laffii

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Maybe more+13 helped

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I am genuinly curious what is happening here
If it wasnt so late I would crunch the numbers WhydahXD

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to counter the no recon problem

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i just put a catapult on uni

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which solved the problem

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wait

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it did not, still 1 off

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i just checked mine and i also dont have it with sandy
need laffey for sure

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Wth

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Or did i do my 1st clear with ancho instead of brest lol

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soyuz in mob works really well

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did both super carriers and came out with only a sliver of hp lost

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After 1 mob and 2 super carriers

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Thats funny, i had worse result with Soyuz mob lol

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But gratz u found what works

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i think its also cuz uni wasnt doing enough damage

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with beacon

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Eh the avi lost is miniscule

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alsace also gets the french buff with brest and JDA in boss fleet
which is not game breaking but still a nice bonus

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no pr7 grind for me lol gotta finish 15-4 with the oil

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finally full auto 15-4 with this

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and houston 2 acquired

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@slate rose

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that luck lol

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on safe right?

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yea

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maybe i should try it sometime

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need a lot of fiddling around to be able to fight 3star cv/bb OOA

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including 3x AA radar lel

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could have been easier if I just have a 2nd volga or aquila lol

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lol

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old boss fleet of soyuz volga indep guam jeanne ply fails miserably without volga