#w15 help pls

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indigo whale
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here it is

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All the golds

worldly zodiac
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so you want to try W15 right now?

indigo whale
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yea if possible

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lower scores are fine, i js need pass for now

worldly zodiac
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Mob: Soyuz, Unicorn, Volga, Anchorage, Shimanto, Laffey 2
Boss: Bismarck Zwei, Shinano, Hakuryu, Guam, Jeanne d' Arc, San Diego

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the rest I refer you to Suchi's work in /w15

indigo whale
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i can send gear if needed

worldly zodiac
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for 15-4 swap Guam and Anchorage

indigo whale
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thanks ill try that out

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would a sidegrade for ur aa be sexys

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also wyvern on nano/haku?

worldly zodiac
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no

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Twin 90mm would

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and for their TB slots yes

indigo whale
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ill send my comps over for some extra tweaking after i build them

worldly zodiac
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bear in mind you need ASW for 15-3 and 15-4

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also

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rudder on Anchorage not beaver badge

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and swap Anchorage and Laffey 2's AA guns

indigo whale
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ill make the boss fleet

worldly zodiac
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shit

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dead

indigo whale
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how to fix

worldly zodiac
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drop the converging Torpedo Bombers for Flapjacks and Wyverns

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also Twin 137mm for Zwei's aux gun as well or a 155

indigo whale
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oh yea forgot abt that

worldly zodiac
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Twin 90mm on Guam as well

indigo whale
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this can auto w/o subs and cats and tech right? like hopefully

worldly zodiac
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also drop the AA radar on Sandy and use a rudder

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at least throw some cats on

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something is better than nothing

indigo whale
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i jusst got some cv cats and bb cats

worldly zodiac
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and don't forget the support and sub fleets

indigo whale
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btw i only have 3 wyverns

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and 4 flapjacks

worldly zodiac
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4 Flapjacks is enough

indigo whale
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i can make tigercats tho i haev 2 of those

worldly zodiac
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make due with Skyrockets and Fw-190 A5s in the support fleet

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as for the wyvern

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eh craft a 4th or wait for the Breguet from the core data shop coming in a few days

indigo whale
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can vit2 suffice

worldly zodiac
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you can try

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put it on Shinano or Haku

indigo whale
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i put 3rd wyvern on nano and vit2 on haku

worldly zodiac
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sure, try and see what happens

indigo whale
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should i get 190 or skyrockers or are they abt the same

worldly zodiac
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they're similar

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I'd do a 50/50 split

indigo whale
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alright

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This is after first battle

worldly zodiac
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you need to killl the super CV first

indigo whale
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is that normal

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i left it on auto

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whats the super cv btw

worldly zodiac
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you see that CV node with a bunch of aircraft on it

indigo whale
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yea

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is that like a strat

worldly zodiac
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you need to kill it or you'll have to face tons of extra planes every fight

indigo whale
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oh i see

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thanks for the tip

worldly zodiac
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also you have the ability to move one fleet

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so make sure you use to get to the super CV fleet before anything else

indigo whale
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where is the button for that

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lol

worldly zodiac
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it's in strategy

indigo whale
worldly zodiac
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should be the 2nd one down on the right

indigo whale
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thats the sub thing

worldly zodiac
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on the far right is what I mean

indigo whale
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lemm try that

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work now thanks

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passed 15-1, but during boss fight, sandy and jda were on the verge of death when boss fight ended

worldly zodiac
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you used subs correct?

indigo whale
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yea

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i only used subs during boss spawn

worldly zodiac
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well you might want to wait for your subs to level up among other things

indigo whale
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alright

indigo whale
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one more thing, i just finished 15-1 and moving onto 15-2, would the staggering in uni and volga be enough

worldly zodiac
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yes

indigo whale
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i put rudders on my backline

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cuz guide siad the bosses are deadly

worldly zodiac
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just watch it closely

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I've had Musashi nearly one shot from under me

indigo whale
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was w15 close to easy for you

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or did you struggle a bit as well

worldly zodiac
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it was a bit of a hassle

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but I also cleared before W15 was even a week old

indigo whale
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alright so, i couldnt pass 15-2

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my backline got shredded

worldly zodiac
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as I suspected

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try again a bit later once you've made some improvements

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and Musashi instead of Zwei

indigo whale
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By improvements u mean like more ur aa, more leveled subs and maybe Aquila

worldly zodiac
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leveling your subs mainly

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and keeping a better eye on your main fleet when you fight the 15-2 boss

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reset if need be

indigo whale
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Would 15-4 even be possible with trash tech and trash cats

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So basically subs and fleet carry

worldly zodiac
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yes

indigo whale
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in regards to, 15-3, would the boss fight be even worse than 15-2

worldly zodiac
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easier if anything

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just remember there's 2

indigo whale
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No ammo node?

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Right now I’m just passing 15-2 by rng

worldly zodiac
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No ammo node in 15-3 yes

indigo whale
indigo whale
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what can i swap out from shimanto for more asw

worldly zodiac
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the torpedo bulge

indigo whale
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ok

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will gearing be the same for main fleets or differnbt ammo type

worldly zodiac
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the same pretty much

indigo whale
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alright time for 15-3

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so my mob got killed relatively quickly in the first boss, how can i fix that

worldly zodiac
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were you using subs?

indigo whale
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no, should i use them as well for 1st boss?

worldly zodiac
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if you're struggling yes

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for mobs as well

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just call them later into the battle to make sure they don't surface and die

indigo whale
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noting works in 15-3

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ill just wait for subs to level and al that and maybe get more UR aa

indigo whale
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Just an update, here’s the 2nd battle in 15-3

worldly zodiac
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you did kill the super CV fleet first yes?

indigo whale
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yes

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ill try running double line

worldly zodiac
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did you enhance the planes on the ships in the support fleet?

indigo whale
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all +10

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support fleet, implac, ills, centuar, best i have for support

worldly zodiac
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double line won't do anything to help with the backline dying from planes

indigo whale
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everyone just dies to the super cv

worldly zodiac
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call in subs then

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use them to make sure they die more quickly to preserve HP

indigo whale
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what time stamp should i call sub

worldly zodiac
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play around with it a bit to see what works so the subs don't die

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I wouldn't do it any earlier than the 2nd to last wave though

indigo whale
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subs helped a bit

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uni still down to 1/4 hp

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im sure the problem with my mob starts to occur during the last out of ammo fight, i usually save a yellow, 2 star dd node for it

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but they still die

worldly zodiac
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you called in subs yes?

indigo whale
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yea

worldly zodiac
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so what exactly was dying

indigo whale
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backline

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and vanguard as well

worldly zodiac
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to planes, subs?

indigo whale
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planes

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i have resorted to using my boss fleet for the dd node

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which went "fine" until sashi started dying cuz subs and no asw

worldly zodiac
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try swapping Guam and Anchorage then

indigo whale
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alright so somehow sashi held off final boss enough and completed 15-3, but this wont work in 14 i need to find a way to optimize them more

worldly zodiac
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well in 15-4 you have an ammo node

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and the mob fleet will be doing everything all but the 2nd boss fight

indigo whale
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is 2nd boss hardest?

worldly zodiac
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no

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it's the easiest if anything

indigo whale
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ill have brest unlocked in a bit

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then 150 mor bps

worldly zodiac
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the mob fleet for 15-4 will be
Soyuz, Unicorn, Volga, Guam, Shimanto, Laffey 2

gilded totem
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Does d25 brest work for w15, it worked in w14 for me

indigo whale
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no

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not with my shit tech and cats

gilded totem
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Dont you just need flame cats

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💀💀💀

indigo whale
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yes which i as a matter of fact do not have

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i have a sub flame cat tho

gilded totem
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Damn

indigo whale
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so now that sandy has new augment, does my fleet stay the same

worldly zodiac
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Yes

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It's just a buff for sandy

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Doesn't really change anything

indigo whale
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Finished 15-3 onto 15-4

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But mob died first boss

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Also how much do I need to kill to finish the stage

worldly zodiac
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all the bosses

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which requires at least 6 mobs

indigo whale
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So on another note

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Mob fleet was successful in killing all the mobs and first boss

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Boss fleet was successful in 2nd boss and when it did 3rd boss, the vanguard died

worldly zodiac
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you were running Guam yes?

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you used subs on the super CV nodes and the 1st and 2rd bosses yes?

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what died

indigo whale
indigo whale
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Mob were all on the verge of death but did its thing it killed mobs and first boss

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Boss fleet did 2 bosses and vanguard alll died

worldly zodiac
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were you running double line for formation?

indigo whale
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Circle

worldly zodiac
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try double line for some of the fights

indigo whale
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Will do, I’ll see how it goes

indigo whale
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out of oil so gotta wait a long while

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idk the fleet can even hold against 15-4 the gear and cats

indigo whale
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i used circular then backline died

worldly zodiac
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so how close was the boss to dying?

indigo whale
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ill tell u how it went

so i killed both super cv then one 2 triangle yellow dd node, then first boss i killed with boss fleet, then kept going on with mob, until 2nd boss, then also used mob for that, and from there on, i used mob for everything

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then everyone in mob died midway thru last boss, boss didnt even spawn yet

worldly zodiac
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what

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if you're gonna use the boss fleet for the 1st boss you'll also need to use it to take out the 3rd boss

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or

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use the mob fleet for the 1st and 3rd boss fleets

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and the boss fleet just fights the 2nd boss fleet

indigo whale
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my boss fleet was rly low during first boss

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should i try to replace someone with chesh

worldly zodiac
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did you try it the second way

indigo whale
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no oil

worldly zodiac
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for the love of

indigo whale
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cant try yet

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lmao

worldly zodiac
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you did read the W15 guide yes?

indigo whale
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yea

gilded totem
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Crack yr mail man

worldly zodiac
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it's explicitly said for 15-4 those are the 2 ways to tackle the bosses

gilded totem
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Is 2nd boss the hardest?

worldly zodiac
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no

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it's the easiest if anything

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but you can't have a fleet fight 2 bosses back to back because of the debuff you get from fighting a boss fleet

indigo whale
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should just my fleet and gear be enough to at least pass it

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cuz if so im doing smth wrong

worldly zodiac
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it might if you tackle the bosses with the right fleets in the right order

indigo whale
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soyuz mob and sashi boss right?

worldly zodiac
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yes

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were you doing either of these

indigo whale
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both guns are AP

indigo whale
worldly zodiac
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which one

indigo whale
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i tried B

worldly zodiac
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and that failed

indigo whale
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problem is i dont have any other healers

worldly zodiac
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have you leveled your subs yet

indigo whale
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109, 107, 107

worldly zodiac
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honestley

indigo whale
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wait nvm 110, 108 106

worldly zodiac
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your best bet right now is to get them to 120

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short of mass crafting 57s or something

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also how close was the last boss to dying when you tride option B

indigo whale
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when using exp packs, should i just spam focus on one then the next

indigo whale
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without a healer in fleet, i dont think i can survive for 2 boss fights main fleet, so maybe perseus in main? probably not

worldly zodiac
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at that point

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you'd better coping on the cross fleet heal

indigo whale
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im probably better off waiting for aquila to come to gacha

worldly zodiac
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you're not

gilded totem
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How cope is aquila in en wishing well

worldly zodiac
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bearing in mind even if Aquila did get added there's a good chance she won't even appear on the WW during the EN Anni

indigo whale
worldly zodiac
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you won't get a rate up during her archiving and fishing without a rate is absolute copium

gilded totem
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Is there another ww after en anni

worldly zodiac
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not until next year in May

gilded totem
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Damn thats copium

indigo whale
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first boss fight trying option A sashi is half hp,so i might be able to pull off last fight

worldly zodiac
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if you're gonna go option A then Guam goes back to the boss fleet

gilded totem
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Use the daily heal lol

indigo whale
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alright so another update, option A went well enough, but when zuikaku was on 20 bars hp musashi died, i used daily heal btw

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so its up to my subs at this point, ill get them to 120 then try again

gilded totem
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I cleared 15-4 my guy