#Help with making w15 fleet pls

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I assume nothing there's nothing else potentially useful then

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yep

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Have you any of these besides unicorn

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i do have volga, shes lv 109

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well that was wrong then

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didnt expect double healer ever used PortDoll

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well I'll leave to Suchi then

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Single healer w15 is just gg no re against you

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MutsukiHyperStare damn

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2nd row tho all unbuilt

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oh fine
Mob: Soyuz, Unicorn, Volga, Guam, Shimanto, Laffey 2
Boss: Alsace, Hakuryu, Independence, Brest, Jeanne d'Arc, Cheshire

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any replacement for jeanne? dont have her

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Dont need healer for 15-3/4 for boss?

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not necessarily

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Soyuz unicorn Volga laffii shimanto Cheshire
Alsace haku independence Guam ply brest

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Balancing the mob and boss fleet more for 15-1 to 15-3

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Copy gear from #bot-spam /w15

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For 15-4 you can mega stack the mob fleet like the ministry of big balans botes suggested

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TY, is that same for 15-2 too?

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15-2 you may need to stack rudders on your main fleet

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like gold and blue rudder?

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Except for independence because she'll just explode if she gets targeted even if she has defensive auxes

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Just one gold rudder

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457 soyuz is required more than alsaces

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i have 2 457 so il put it on both

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any other gear changes? had to assume a lot swapping the vanguard especially

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regular 155s not 155 kais for the BB auxes

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Shimanto's own gun from PR6 on her

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switch brest and guam's aa and main gun

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Scepters on the CVs not Bows for augments

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noted anything i should try to +13 there that would be significant diff?

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play so you find out what's lacking

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well you still need to get the support fleet CVs leveled

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a fantastic observation

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you have only 2 of the top 13 support carriers, and they happen to be occupied. unicorn and independence

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what are the other 11?

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i have just the tier list infographic for you. top to bottom

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acc i do have centaur and illustrious at lv1, should i build em?

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centaur no, illustrious yes if you want to win anytime soon

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chen hai and langley give good tech at 120

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who do i replace for illustrious?

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No one

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They go in their own fleet

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ah the no vanguard fleet

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once upon a time, i tried playing 15-4 with air incapability and no support carriers, and my fleet lasted for 2 battles

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so for support i shud level illust and langley, who should i do 3rd? dont got chen hai

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Have enough core data for Illustrious Muse?

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you can level up centaur or use enterprise

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Isnt chenhai in ny invite?

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She's 1.5k

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She is yes

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Lvlin botes with no tech to 120 is feelsbadman

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Yea

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took her

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hindsight not great

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just checking do support cvs need 125 or is 120 the same

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levels matter

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strong fleets don't need 125 supports

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what about flapjacks on suppcv, do they need +13?

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sounds like a massive waste of gold plates

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you need to just try and then decide which aspect is more cost-efficient to upgrade

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what should i do for the bombers?

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highest avi stat

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Can wyvern intercept in support fleet?

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also read /wiki chapter 15

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it doesn't matter

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they're all 45 avi, and they were set at +0 to hopefully show that they don't matter

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TB and DB levels don't matter

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and lastly do lang or illust miu use bow over sceptor like illus? idk the diff

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they're all the same avi

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assuming their effect doesnt proc as support

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w15-4, guessed some vanguard gear as well, any changes?

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laffii can still main tank, and brest still needs french gear

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changed vang gear, swapped in 2 rudders for w15-2?