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#Dock list
noble wing
damn is it that bad
gray moth
It's a common problem early on dw
untold umbra
Well I did say non MLb ships are shit
untold umbra
I sincerely doubt it
you're under leveled and lacking limit breaks on so many ships
gray moth
But don't worry, you cannot go wrong from now on, it's only going up from here 
noble wing
alright
untold umbra
Musashi, Saratoga, Perseus, Suzuya, Z23, Belfast
you have better ships you could use but without bullins that's not feasible right now
you might also want to give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
noble wing
Nelson?
untold umbra
yes
gray moth
noble wing
oh
untold umbra
actually no Saratoga not Nelson
gray moth
Btw you haven't been spending your gems on stuff like oil,coins and skins right? Since as a F2P gems are really scarce
noble wing
i spent my gems to dock expansion
gray moth
ok great
noble wing
ok i read that wiki guide and i feel like i been playing the game wrong this entire time 
gray moth
Gems are mainly used to get 3rd/4th dorm slot + 2nd floor and then all into dock space
noble wing
farm 3-4, not knowing about guild, youtube guide and gold gear is better
gray moth
Oh god 
noble wing
Gems are mainly used to get 3rd/4th dorm slot + 2nd floor and then all into doc...
my dorm has 5 slot
gray moth
Following Youtube guides are the worse thing you could do
gray moth
my dorm has 5 slot
That might be an oopsie, but stop there
noble wing
ah..
gray moth
Just get 2nd floor and just dump it all on dock space
noble wing
wait how do i get the 2nd floor
gray moth
By expanding your first floor with dorm coins over at the construction site sign
noble wing
ok
gray moth
Once you are done with that you should be able to buy 2nd floor with 400 gems
noble wing
construction sign is gone now
500 gems for second floor
they say no new training unlock
noble wing
what?
gray moth
2nd floor doubles up your "Resting Spots"
untold umbra
yeah
also I forget to mention and clairfy, limit break your Perseus asap
noble wing
damn the game gaslight me
untold umbra
it's a known issue to say the least
gray moth
You get exp and morale recovery in 1st floor, over at 2nd floor it's just morale recovery but at a higher rate (+10/hr)
It's basically used to have your fleet resting at all times for higher farming uptime
noble wing
how does resting affect farming uptime?
gray moth
So your ships have morale
noble wing
yeah
also I forget to mention and clairfy, limit break your Perseus asap
and she is now full limit break
untold umbra
if your ships reach 0 morale they start losing affinity and your XP gain is cut in half
gray moth
If you use them in sorties ofc
gray moth
gray moth
Yeah go ahead
noble wing
ok
gray moth
iirc it's better to "Buy All" rather than "Buy Set" cuz it gives more Comfort
noble wing
so basicaly just buy bunch of furniture
gray moth
Yeah but keep in mind it gets exponentially harder once you have like 200 comfort
noble wing
then what should i aim for?
gray moth
About 200~300, just buy the sets you like whenever
noble wing
ok thx
gray moth
Any questions regarding any topic?
noble wing
So this is my fleet atm as you recommended, tho why Musashi instead of Shinano who is higher lv?
gray moth
Sashi is a really good ship
Move Sashi to the middle
Btw for future fleet recommendations what we mean is
Flag,Side,Side
Left,Middle,Right
noble wing
Oh is that how the order work?
gray moth
Yeah
noble wing
alright Musashi is now flag
gray moth
I got a question, you aren't pulling on permanent/standard banner right?
gray moth
Ok I was just wondering
For retros you should try to replace Suzuya once your Portland is done
Portland > Z23 > Saratoga
noble wing
and Retro unicorn replace Saratoga?
gray moth
No, Unicorn will eventually replace your Perseus
noble wing
oh
gray moth
But since you already invested on Perseus just stick to her in the meantime
untold umbra
Yes
gray moth
I think it's the other way around, some golds are just awful
If you wanna drop images of your Depot go ahead
noble wing
oh
gray moth
Aight lemme try to cook some gear recommendations for your fleet 
noble wing
gray moth
Start doing Roon and leave it in the background
untold umbra
You are too early to be focused on that
gray moth
Don't worry about it up until W12
Do you know you can compose T1 and T2 boxes into T3?
gray moth
Yep
noble wing
gray moth
Since you are kinda lacking in the aux deparment
Also I've never seen this before
Anyways I think this could work in the meantime (for enhancement +6 should work too don't worry about +10)
I don't think I missed something?
untold umbra
Barracuda on Perseus and Sea Hornet as well
gray moth
wait
untold umbra
There's also an unused Quad Mag
noble wing
wha?
gray moth
There
gray moth
+6 should be okay for most stuff for now
untold umbra
The gold quints they have would also be better than those purple torps
Also blue rudder on Belfast not a fire extinguisher
gray moth
He only has 1 rudder tho
noble wing
is there like some sort of tier list for gears?
gray moth
Well they are not hard to come by
untold umbra
He does?
noble wing
or it is just something i have to figure out as time goes on which is better
noble wing
also, no place for me to put sonar and depth charge?
gray moth
Well, like cheeky said change the purple torps for the Gold Quints you got
noble wing
wait what about when fighting subs?
gray moth
There's not any subs up until W14
noble wing
ok..
gray moth
Or rather they aren't a threat until then
noble wing
granted there are subs in the event
gray moth
Shouldn't be a threat honestly
noble wing
actually speaking of events
untold umbra
They will be with that set up
gray moth
Well, true
noble wing
so do I just use the new main fleet to farm B3
gray moth
Also replace Suzuya asap 
noble wing
so i like, use my old fleets first to get to D1
untold umbra
Actually no
noble wing
hm?
gray moth
Nope, just bench them
noble wing
ok
untold umbra
Just for her main gun use the purple twin 203mm skc
untold umbra
so i like, use my old fleets first to get to D1
Not exactly
Use the we reccomend
And use a 2nd fleet of what's partially leveled as stat sticks
And maybe take out a mob or 2
gray moth
This should be your Atago btw
noble wing
wait do i still need Portland retrofit?
gray moth
Would say so since rookie missions asks you to "almost" retrofit her and why not finish it anyways
untold umbra
Yes
But frankly that's not really feasible right now
And wasting time to get Portland leveled up right now is not preferable
gray moth
So maybe do Z23 first?
untold umbra
Honestly I don't know
And when I say now I mean for the duration of the event they're not in d1
gray moth
Well yeah
Anyways level and gear that fleet and try to push to D1
Any questions regarding this or any topic are welcome
noble wing
D1.. got it
ok so
just to be clear
what ship am I aiming for to get/replace at this moment
untold umbra
Uhhh
noble wing
beside the one already on the main fleet
untold umbra
A lot
noble wing
ouch
untold umbra
Like you have plenty of good ships really to start pushing 2 fleets if anything
But the issue is no bullins
noble wing
i assume UR bullins are low priority rn until i can get enough for Max limit break?
gray moth
For now focus on getting to D1
gray moth
Telling you to Retro or level ships will probably confuse you lol
noble wing
how do I combine T1 box to T3?
noble wing
ah
i see
i think that is all questions I have for now
now I just need to get to D1
gray moth
noble wing
thanks for the help
gray moth
yw
noble wing
i really feel like I just start the game
also
does thread need to be archive or anything?
i never really made one in official discord before
gray moth
Nah, just leave it as it is if you want
gray moth
You can ask questions here in the future if you like to
gray moth
ofc only I and cheeky will know tho
So if we are afk probably ask them in #gameplay-help
gray moth
Welcome to actually caring about the game
noble wing
i thought i am count as mid game with the unit and lv I got
noble wing
Welcome to actually caring about the game <:Omegalilwoo:588629705062875136>
yeah that do be on me for not touching discord
back then i kinda just rely on reddit search and youtube
gray moth
Which you shouldn't
Youtube is heavily biased on the one making the video which leads to misinformation
noble wing
yeah when i see that as first tip i immediately thought
"welp i already failed"
gray moth
And reddit is... well it's reddit
noble wing
granted i didn't really ended up doing it cuz
i just think "Oh i already got plenty of SR"
gray moth
There's plenty of dog water SRs in the game
noble wing
yeah i notice that in the tier list
Poor Prince Eugen
i been using her since like.. forever
gray moth
Tho try to not get brainwashed by ECTL
noble wing
slaimuda one right?
gray moth
yeah
noble wing
so here is the thing
i kinda start actually looking into meta yesterday, then i look at that tier list and make the 2 fleet you saw
by picking like "the best" one i have
noble wing
tbh i wouldn't know i am team building it wrong if you didn't ask me to show my fleet
noble wing
i only have Main fleet UR
gray moth
It was more of a MLB problem
noble wing
i see.
untold umbra
But the issue is yeah resources
untold umbra
I mean already explained the importance of limit breaking
noble wing
fair enough
gray moth
There's even "veteran" players that don't know anything about fleet building cuz they just don't care about it and play the game for fun and collecting ships
noble wing
i will just focus on the event for now, new fleet can come after event is over
untold umbra
Yeah
noble wing
There's even "veteran" players that don't know anything about fleet building cuz...
yeah that basically me
gray moth
Which isn't a problem, just a way of playing
noble wing
lot of my friends are playing it recently
untold umbra
Yeah
gray moth
lot of my friends are playing it recently
Now you can probably teach them a thing or two
noble wing
also i got lot of resources to read
noble wing
man why did these not appear when i search for guides back then
gray moth
Cuz clickbait stuff is easier to find
untold umbra
They're also only about what a year old
gray moth
"Best" one I found was one about a guy that tried to translate what he learnt from reading sam's guides (it was really blatant) and still manage to be misinformative about gem spending
untold umbra
Do I even wanna know
noble wing
actually i think i brought the 5th slot because i saw a video saying I should spend gem on dorm slot and dock expansion
they didn't say buy it until 4th slot
gray moth
basically "get training slots and 6th dorm slot very useful"
noble wing
just saying spending gem on dorm is most worthwhile investment
untold umbra
Yeesh
untold umbra
Yeah that's why it's not reccomend for F2Ps
noble wing
i can't even remember how much i spent for that 5th slot
noble wing
i didn't watch that one
noble wing
let me try to find the one i watch
gray moth
It was fine up until the gem spending part
gray moth
let me try to find the one i watch
Please don't let it be Kimo
gray moth
2021 
noble wing
noted i was looking up beginner guide when i start playing the game like..
untold umbra
Neldrin yikes
noble wing
around Shinano banner
i start playing either at Shinano or Muse banner
so the vid i watch was older than that
gray moth
Well, now you know youtube guides are a big nono
noble wing
yeah i can't actually remember which beginner guide i actually watch
all i know is it is really long
near 1 hour
and it includes farming 3-4 until you get Kaga
untold umbra
I am so sorry for that 1 hour you will never get back
well it's definitely not this but...
gray moth
Success 
gray moth
well it's definitely not this but...
Ew he recommends farming for gear 
noble wing
no i don't think this is
untold umbra
ah well
gray moth
Cheeky you don't wanna look at his fleets (the ones from the video)
untold umbra
oh I don't plan to
gray moth
well it's definitely not this but...
Honestly besides the gear farming part and his fleets it's not that bad
noble wing
only thing i remember the most is the thumbnail has blue background
and i think it might be Entreprise in the thumbnail too
but yeah it been a long time
i really can't remember the exact one
in any case i will get start now. thanks again for everything
noble wing
I can already see the massive difference between non MLB and MLB even though they are lower/similar level..
I didn't think the difference was that drastic before
gray moth
Well that's the way it works, ships do jack shit without MLB, most of them only do like 30% dmg compared to MLB + missing out on stats
noble wing
finally managed to clear out D1
my second team can barely fight against 3 triangle ships..
yeah i am gonna stick with D1
gray moth
my second team can barely fight against 3 triangle ships..
Well we did say your second team wasn't useful and was only for statstick
noble wing
fair enough, well atleast i got D1 done. Time to farm
noble wing
Hello
So now that the event is over, I want to get back to team building
I got enough Gold bullin for about 2 Max limit break
Tho I am not sure who to build next
