#Kuyby and enti gear up
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Here we go
Unused gear
Can craft
Before anyone asks, yes I have enough bullins to MLB them
If it's not in the Pictures I probably don't have it or it's on a different ship
It's on Shinano-chan
current equips are fine for kuyb
id rather not use bulins on kuyb
especially cause we're getting new event tomorrow
so youre better off using the newbie fleet for now
Okay
dont think youre far enough in the game to start worrying about two fleets anyways
I'm just going to farm some exp today so I can get them ready for a proper second fleet
haste makes waste but you do you
Oh definitely not far enough in, but I think that preparing hood and enti now might still be worth it
it is
you shouldn't be running 2 fleets but you should when you start getting some of the ships start looking to level them up
it's why I reccomended Kyubyshev
Kuyby was kinda a rushed decision, I'll admit that. Just wanted to have someone on the free vanguard spot while farming
I wouldn't have reccomended her to be done now but what's done is done
good thing there's only one other SR from this upcoming event whom she'll be competing for bullins
Any changes you'd make ?
I did add enti to the second fleet btw
Yeah just until I can push the story again
This?
yes
yes
Thanks
Put hp. As you said she won't do anything and just surviving is more important
Kuybys main sucks for cl but it's sadly the best you have. It's ok to level a bit because good for nelson/alsace
?
Oh okay, my gear just sucks in general,lol
Hp auxes. Like toolkits
Oh okay, thanks
@ebon fractal so this is ur thread right ?
Correct
can u show ur dock ?
it is very hardly doable ngl d3 is the best place to aim for now
the best idea i got is unicorn will carry the mobbing team so u can try to fit in some lvl 70-80s with hp aux with 1 tank
and the bossing can have all the strong backliners which are here hood shinano and penny with port as tank
Lol, I have lvl 70 s besides hood!?
But I guess you mean that I should try to bring the up to that lvl and aim for a clear close to the end of the event?
enty is 40 close enough i guess missing one like nelson
the issue is in the vanguards more
i thought about eugen but she will compete with enty for bulins
Brennus and kuyby no valid options?
If it's just about lvls I could probably just buy the 5 bucks pack for the 200 purples exp books
well bullins are also the issue
that was why when I said Kyubshev I added the caveat if she's not competeing with someone else for bullins
which she very much is with Enterprise
we also don't know how good Brennus even is at this point
does kyubshev have tank viability
?
kinda
you can kinda imagine her as cleveland plus
but she can mob tank if that's what you're thinking
yeah that is what i was thinking about
Still have 5 bullins and enti and kuyby are both at 5 stars
If I outh someone I get another bullin
And another one from the exercise shop
Lol I'm missing the gold for MLBs
yeah mlb are kinda expensive
i m trying to figure out 2 more vanguards 1 in the mob 1 in the boss
mob is kuyby laffey and boss is port helena
Also about Nelson, I technically have everything to retrofit her, Just missing the gold and lvls
yes, do it when you can
it is kinda of a hard position here
u might want to just do 3 builds per day until u can afford to reach at least D3
D3 is very possible SP is madly hard
but not impossible
the idea is still missing 2 ships
yeah for the event currency
one major issue that u will encounter is the avg level
do u have the second F in the dorm ?
Nope
One extension away
So , I'm kinda capped on oil right now, should I just farm A3 until I'm under the Cap?
@lethal surge
mobbing fleet needs so many levels
flag nelson + enty + unicorn // left position kuyby + chan chun + london ?
boss
flag hood + penny + shinano // port + laffey + helena
in the ideal situation shinano should be in the mobbing and enty in bossing but due to levels we keep it as this
their development will cost mad coins
put the lowest levels in the dorm since the main objective is to increase the avg level first
if i get another idea i will tell u asap 
THANKS
no u need to search for the best coin/oil level
which world are u at now ?
W7
commander gated ?
Correct
there should be a commander buff going on now u should grind 7-4 for a bit
is it safe risk ?
Yeah
As long as the ships are at lvl 30 I can carry them fairly well even with 2 fleets
k use hood flag with enty and unicorn
vanguard is port london kuyby
is ur healing skill leveled high enough ?
yeah the aim is w9 ur ships are already in the level overkill zone
good enough
What's max?
Lol and 9 is just good enough ๐
Yes
yeah not max = good enough
under 7 is cope bar
levels are very important ships their skills and the gear
we will discuss the gear later since u most likely will be buying some of the yellow tech boxes from the event shop
Definitely
building 2 fleets at ur stage is kinda rough especially on the coins department and especially also when we have now an UR event going on
u only need to focus on coin and level efficiency and nothing else
levels to be able to do D1 at least
Btw only laffey and hood have skills above 6
Sounds tuff
Oh Helenas s1 is at 7
Portland aswel, etf
try to spread the levels on them and not focus 2 ships
evenly the most possible
especially the main line not vanguard
Okay, here I thought living one skill at a time to max was better
On Portland I only focused on her second skill
the scaling in this game is linear for the most part
don't work on Portland's skills
and the early levels are cheap enough
Well shit, lol
but yeah as u saw buffs and gear until lvl 10
gear between 11 and 13 isn't linear either
the damage increase from +0 to +10 gear isn't linear either
that's why among other things you don't compare gear that's not +10
Say I cheated and just purchased the pack that will give me the exp needed, some okay gear and yet me to lvl 70. Would that help?
Done
because the later you decide to hold off the less value you get from the bump in commander level
found this 
Wait, still missing gold
on the wiki?
yes
well that's true
but consider that both base damage and reload are being affected
individually the increase is linear but actual dps is not
yeah the curve isn't 1 to 1 at least it has a much higher tilt
i dunno what is called in english
slope
but anyway lesson learned 
Need to scrape some gear, can I just get rid of most of the blue stuff?
Okay one sec, need to do so before I can open the package
yeah it has like 78 pieces of gear
Okay scraped what I could
Opening the pack now
Who am I leveling First?
And have a total 9 Sr bullins now, with potential to reach 11 if I do a quest and buy on from The exercise shop
Missing the gold to retrofit anything though
well Hood and Enterprise would be first for your main fleet ships
Both up to 100 or is something like 90 okay?
Don't know how far I can get with the 200books
okay so let me clarify what the immediate goal is right now
and that's to be able to clear D1
if you can't clear with one fleet
the idea is to use the 2nd fleet to clear one mob node allowing your main fleet to fight the boss with ammo
so for now
don't spend any XP packs
save those for when you need them
Okay
and just start getting levels and some coins
Not even lvl 70 on enti for MLB?
man is iching for mlb
do u have 10k ?
15
sure then if you have the coins to limit break her
I need 10k coins!?
yes
Screw me, 7k away from that, and o have no interest in touching my mail
cheeky since he has now ample Sr bulins is there something to put instead of london
?
i suggested for the mob fleet
kuy chang chun and london
not quite sold on London tbh
if you're gonna use filler for fleet 2 I'd rather Birmingham tbh
and Javelin instead of Chang Chun
Brennuss could be an option but I have no idea how good she is and Tashkent is pretty mid
Could buy someone from the guild shop if that helps
nah
no one else left is useful other than as tech
well there's colorado but she's redundant in your case
jav trp damage is actual solid ngl
but she needs retrofit right ?
Okay, thought vampire meta would do the job
like I said
the plan is basically for her to be a stat stick
so she doesn't need her retro necessarily
True
plus you need to level Kuby anyway so may as well throw another ship in
u have a lvl 17 one
yes
With the purchase I Just got another dune of her
that's why I reccomended you level her in time
And up to 6k gold now
this is jav retro diff
i think consider the 55 as a room of improvement 
it is yeah
but well I'd rather retrofit BPs right now be focused on getting those for Saratoga
plus coins
or the lack there of
yeah saratogo's plan has to be postponed a little bit 
do u have hood unique augment ?
I could get another ship from the newcomer mission, not today but probably by the end of the week
Nope, not enough material
what level is her skill ?
8
yeah solid enough
Missing these 3 missions
unironically Enty dupe for limit breaking might be more valuable than Sandy or Illustrious
Even if I have the bullins? Interesting
btw cheeky this was D1 in soyuz event requirement
do u think they include the trp stats
?
Is hoods augment important? If so I can use some event currency to buy the missing material
guam
we already have the stat requirements for the event maps
yeah looks consistent
D2 looks impossible right now, those trp stats are a far away dream
i think yes since i suggested her to be used in the bossing fleet originally but cheeky hinted the idea of using a mediocre fleet to do the first fight and then use the other one to mop the rest while having ammo left to do the boss 
Scratch that, don't have the gold even if I had the material. I swear I should have just not pulled today and saved my gold
So say I touch my mail, and cap my oil even more but in return hit 10k gold, what to do first?
MLB enti? Retro Nelson? Augment hood?
Oh should I just push to w 9 now? Maybe that can help?
well you're gonna need around 20k coins to retro Nelson from scratch
Already started her, so probably more like 12k or so
here's what I'd do
with your new gear see how far you can get to 9-1, get it down to safe and strat leveling ships there until the D stages unlock
cheeky for the trp stat does london become more lenient than birmingham ?
Which ships do you want to adjust the gear for? Just my current fleet I use for everything or all the potential ships for both fleets?
Do have some new gear now
just the stuff you're gonna use to push for 9-1
Would hood be able to replace penny now?
yeah i think ur regular fleet
Still a 20 lvl difference though
maybe
the 8th chapter is lvl 80-86 but i think most likely hood is better just for her to get more levels 
his unicorn will carry 
u have 3 +6 steam cata put 2 on unicorn
Want to see the skills on the girls as well?
Okay
almost forgot Laffey's torps
So no hood for now?
not in your main fleet while you're pushing to 9-1 no
Okay, any need to directly aim for 3* on each Stage?
btw are u done from c3 node of the event
?
Finished A3 already
Wait yeah c3
Also done
how deep are u in the UR banner ?
Don't have enough purple aviation oil tanks for uni and Shinano-chan
use Purple Catapults then
40pulls
Yeah I have another 20 left, I'm very new to the game
u mean u only have 40 cubes left ?
Yeah
Don't have purple fire control radar for penny
with avg luck is should be possible
140 is all u need trust 
i told him earlier that u might want to buy some tech boxes from event 
just use another shell then
Missing a purple toolkit for laffey and Helena
use this 
I can do that right now, the eagle ones or just all of them?
For?
laffei
that vs a 2nd toolbox doesn't really matter
TBH i m not so sure
Okay
i think eagle and iron blood
Okay, and Helena is still missing a purple toolkit
Should I use my gold to increase the lvl cap for them?
also when u equip the gear try to put what u have the most upgraded
so for example when i see that u have +0 blue kit on 2 ships while u have 3 +6 in the deposit is kinda questionable

Well I'm not ashamed to admit that I completely missed that
No luck with the gear boxes
try to aim for +6 first
the gear that u have now should be enough
Did so where I could, missing stuff to upgrade it
there is 3 blue fire controls in the deposit
plates ?
but yeah i remember the blue aux plates being kinda scarce so spend wisely
Don't see any only fire suppression
Oh for Penny?
yes
Thought we were talking about the missing gear on Helena, lol
Sure?
fire control on penny
and the sg radar looks kinda good 
for speedrunning purposes i mean
since the ambush is nothing but waste of time and oil
So fire control or radar?
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can u show ur 6 ships again as u did earlier ?
but TBH showing ur deposit with the equipped gear button on is better
2 changes u can do 1 mandatory the other is optional
put these 2 on unicorn as i told u an hour ago
the other is sg radar on helena instead of the hydraulic
she has a massive level advantage against ch 8
I could swear I already did so, guess I'm tripping
Okay
yeah u only changed nano

Thats why, I was following this pick
for anti air use these
Only 3 available, does it matter who gets them?
Even if Helena has the +8 gold weapon?
keep the one on helena then
Who gets the third on instead?
anyone else it doesn't matter
Okay all changes made
Kk, I'll push to W9 now
Thanks man
@lethal surge just finished 9-1, bit don't see any of that beautiful oil cap
Have 10k Gold
can you repost your updated dock
okey then
nelson kai unicorn shinano chan -kuyby laffey x
hood enty sara - portland helena x
but u should one fleet with
hood unicorn shinanochan - portland helena laffey till u have access to D1 where u can grind lvls till u can push D3
ull need torp requirements for d2 so consider raising in x slots ships with torps coz laffey wont be enough
thanks, very much appriciated
Starting on 10-1 now
good stopping point ngl
farm it for a bit until the D stages unlock then we will see how to move from that checkpoint 
Okay ๐๐พ๐
So D-1 done but now I'm stuck, basically because I don't fulfill the trp requirements
aside from laffei and port which other vanguards that u are using that has trp stats ?
or better show me ur setup for D1
like this
kuyby bad. just like in madoka
do you want the chat frame? you could try raising brennus for torp. i haven't checked if brennus is actually good but no one has said she sucks
give me a few minutes on brennus
Kyub is solid
ok like i thought brennus is basically saint louis without the bad HE restriction. I think it's pretty safe to raise brennus if you want. whether 250 or so torp is enough to meet reqs for you 
not for D2 reqs she isn't
probably going to need vampire meta
could also try raising non retro chang chun to meet reqs
or mogador 
d2 for ur case is something else
in ur dock there are 2 ships that have very high trp stats but they aren't used to fight
shigure elite
shiratsuyu R
these 2 can make up for all the trp stat that u are missing if not overkill
there is a way also is to do it by raising a CL like eugen ฮผ and one of the DDs i mentioned above and compensate the missing by trp aux 
By swapping Portland for brennus i got some more trp stats, i'll look at shigure, but might go with vampire meta or sara instead of shiratsuyu
just go for shigure now she has the highest trp stat in ur dock
also this 
true, true here i thought you meant for the subs, but nope for the stats.
what you suggest i put in my vanguerd?
how much more do you need with brennus?
nvm your suggestion was way better
okay i barely managed to hit the trp stat by giving them gear
but min lvl sucks
yeah just dorm and level them up in D1 i think 
but i m sure that u can drop vampire because the other 2 have massive trp stats when they reach mlb
use books to level them to 35 or something and put hp and eva on them also use the eva
and also don't forget to lower the stage's risk before doing so
also use this battle formation
trust me these 2 alone are already overkill let alone with others that u have such as laffei and brennus
two MLB should be enough. which is why vamp was suggested because she's easy to mlb. although purples shouldn't be hard in general. I guess you could also do Fleuret, again if you're interested in the portrait frame at all

okay, i gues i'll go mlb on them
Should I continue pulling now?
do u have alsace ?
Nope
40 pulls, not much
yeah don't stop
Somehow D2 feels easier than d1
Well the first map is usually the hardest since it's a litmus test
well did you stop 0 ammoing?
Nope still going around with 0 ammo
@ebon fractal so u are going to attemp the sp stage
?
yeah, just tried, lost two ships 4 battles in, so i gave up
can u show ur mob fleet ?
yeah i remember it being a little bit hard if u are underleveled
๐ my mob fleet is kinda non existent, for the stages so far i just put in ships that would allow me to reach the requierments.
forget about SP for now
grind D3 for a bit to get event points and to get more levels on some ships
i do plan on building one based on the recommendations in here, but that will take a good amount of time
try SP again in a few days
kk
so for now u just try and level ur mob fleet vanguards which is mainly kuy because she will be tanking most of the damage
how long until nelson retro ?
Well however long it takes for me to get the gold for her.
might have to split my fleet again to build a mob fleet that won't die instantly in D3
Current fleet I'm using for everything
Current dock
Well and also my lvl 105, Penny
sp is quite hard this time in imo. you will need 115+ and +10 gear imo. And two working fleets. Definitely can't 1:1 with Unicorn+Ply boss on 0 ammo. Unicorn got murdered.
you need to get that second fleet usable. it will greatly help with morale so you can grind even more and faster
lower its risk before doing so then try
it should be doable
how would i need to split the fleet up and who should i add to complete the temporary mob fleet?
still have portland, nano-chan and penny who are lvled well, kuyby will be next after i finish nelson
what u want to do is lower the risk to safe then use a fleet that has nelson as flagship and port as tank with kuy in the middle
okay
sure thing
also who should i put the event shop torps on?
or should i continue to save and buy the shiny gear first?
yes prioritize the shiney
for who?
cheeky doesn't kashkent here look like a good candidate
? since he is missing vanguards
I'm kinda loathed to reccomend her honestley
gold bullins issues asside
these days you're only really looking at a ship that's about on par with the retroed starters
i think he is missing 1 gold bulin for kuy and another SR
if it's just one bullin i can get two more
unles i should be saving my excersie points for a ship or something.
you shouldn't at this stage
for right now just focus on getting what's been reccomended worked up for fleet 2
i.e. Kyubyshev, Nelson, Saratoga
kk
he is missing a vanguard
i could also ignore kuyby and just pull a few times
also i can buy another ship in the guild shop now
i could pull with medals
i'll definetly build her, love her design
don't, that's a massive waste of medals
oh okay, are medals only user for the sr ticket?
the medal shop is the only place where you should be spending medals
exactly, that's what i ment with sr ticket
SR ships arent the only things you should be buying from the shop is what I meant
btw wan't there an easy way to get independance?
worth it? or is there a better option in that shop?
oh okay
gold bullin?
of course
along with prototype cores and when you have the spare medals skill books, PR Prints, and dorm food
i'll keep that in mind
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i doubt indy helps you in any way 
sure, doesn't seem to matter much. you're on cruise control. farm D3 to farm SP.
@ebon fractal what is your current 2 fleet situation?
I'm missing vanguards for the mob fleet, so I'll have to find a way to split my first fleet to provide a few tankyness.
just use Brennus or Portland to tank for the fleet that's being leveled and keep Unicorn
the rest well see how much you can get away with
okay
also I said use Javelin or Birmingham as filler for the las slot in your mob fleet
about that, had to lvl shigure for d-2 trp requirement
she's at lvl 80 now, can i use her ?
that's fine
is her retro worth it?
no
oh okay
she's still garbage even with it
beutiful
if you want to drag her sure
at D3 u can drop her i guess. and put kuby back in. u dont need torp for D3
just don't expect anything from her
i guess at this point it's more about reaching the lvl requirement, can't do that with javelin at lvl 17 right now
guess i'll put her into the dorm first, or i could go t w10 and try to lvl her there for a while
nah stay with event. u can use xp books and dorm for anyone u want to level fast
replace penny and nelson
wait penny is in mob
meant nelson sry
okay
lol used the last bit for sara just now
should i just put any lvled gear on the ones that don't have any?
np she is is a fine pick. when she is ready your mob fleet will be hood/nelson + sara + uni and the rest goes in boss
get your current fleet levelled and u can tackle SP soon
yeah rest will be a gear arrangement 
everyone u use should have poverty/decent gear. just open tech boxes. level them to +6 at least. u can +10 the good gear. if not sure ask here
wait i didn't put sara in, lol
sara instead of penny for now?
sorry instead of nelson
still need 5 more lvls on her for retro
you can drag her without her retro
no. keep nelson. replace penny if sara is ready to farm.
okay
also u need to bare in mind the skills also sara has a unique augment 
i know these days were rough on u
her augment definetly has to wait, used all up for hoods lvl 10 augment
okay time for some gear
i think your fleets are good enough for now. stop replacing ships and start levelling them.
only thing u can replace is shigure if u are out of D2. put birmingham instead. but if u cba to replace her just keep it like this it is fine
in the mob fleet who goes in the midle? uni as she has the highes lvl or nana-chan?
nelson. she needs flag position for her barrage (at least one of her barrages). she will survive dw about it uni will carry. flag also gives 1.5x XP so u dont want unicorn flag cuz she is already maxed
are you on D3 now?
120 is max for uni??
yes and i just realized that i'm 1 lvl below the requirement, i'll go back to D2 i guess to get a lvl done on one of them
nvm i'll just awaken nana-chan or portland
try and keep everyone levelled. u can swap enty with nano chan at some point so she also gets levels
once D3 is safe (green threat) u can also possibly run it without unicorn in mob but that would depend on your gear i think. we can think about it when u get it down to safe.
this way u stop wasting xp on unicorn and can level 3 ships at the same time.
it's already safe
i've been doing nothing but farming D3 since yesterday
oh i see. well your vanguard is a bit underlevelled so forget that idea for now. just keep it in mind if u see your ships performing exceptionally well. if we CAN run it without uni we should but also might be hard
twin 410mm on nelson good?
i'll just show my depo
although on the boss BB run purple 406 mk6, i believe it is better
show your current fleet gear. let us just double check everything
well it started really well but then obviously u need to gear everyone lol
Yeah trying to figure that out now
u look like u understand how to gear stuff. just use blue gear if u dont have more purples
of course open all your tech boxes first
prioritize portland for mob gear. she will take the brunt of the damage.
lol i have no clue how to gear stuff, i usualy just ask, i'm still trying to understamd the gear guid, but it's a lot
ok
uni will carry most of them. but also give nelson a good main weapon at least. either one of these will work. I use the triple gun on boss and the twin gun on mob
give the triple to hood and twin to nelson for example. this way u wont have to spend resources on another bb gun
yes but their passives dont stack
TLDR on vanguard aux is: toolkit + evasion for cruisers
double toolkit for DDs
eva aux is these 2
btw i believe this gun is better for portland and brennus
you're sure they can use that? because somehow i can't find it when trying the main gun
helena can use it
oh wait my bad that is the wrong one
I meant this one
been a while i have looked at purple early game gear 
okay yeah only have that one in blue
keep the current one u have it is fine
similar to enty if u can make it work. otherwise use whatever u have now
sb2c for dive bomber
barracuda/tenzan for torpedo
f4u corsair better than purple hellcat
did u buy all the golden boxes in the event
?
no more sb2c left i have a lvled ju-87c though
not yet only uss and ironblood
could get some lvl 5 boxes is i 3 star some story stages
yeah use it for now it is okay. any levelled gear will work until u get another purple helldiver
in that case is the gold btd-1 destroyer a better option?
aviation oil tank on sara?
i am not actually sure but i wouldnt waste gold and plates on it. use the +6 ju it should be fine for now
would the same aux i put on hood work for nelson?
yep. if u get a fire control radar u can replace the autoloader but not the highest priority
also if u have 800 coredata u can grab a white shell from the core shop
the 1 ap shell?
crafting the sb2c is kinda cheap in the gear lab 
first i need to find the material lol
where are u in the opsi story ?
barely touched it
is this the highest prio for me right now?
use 1 fleet to complete ch4 at least
now
like right now?
yes right now
lol, can i finish the gear set up first.
the ap regeneration should be enough to make u finish it in time before the monthly reset
the prio is 3x white shell + 3x black shell
white shell is generally used more
no 
when u are low on morale go do opsi and use the same 2 fleets u have here. unicorn will carry most of it.
finishing chapter 4 is very advisable before the month ends
only missing the second gun on nelson brother
this for your nelson aux gun
the gold shell on hood or nelson?
nelson for now since your boss fleet is strong enough. later u can prioritize the good gear for the boss fleet
btw opsi is kinda free xp as well. so u can use it to gain more xp for your ships. so when their morale gets low go do it
no replace the purple shell
their passives dont stack
when u get enough BP from resaerch also make this
are u focusing PR4?
gear your vanguard like this
okay
if u dont have purple toolkit, blue is fine for now but keep em at +6
i'll do so when i stop beaing broke
if shigure isnt dying that oxy torp is fine but if she dies give her 2 toolkits
yeah np. but always upgrade the good gear when u can
she realy only has any gear for the rewuirements
oh yeah i see makes sense but u dont need that in d3 i believe so giving her more hp is better i think
true
whatever works for now is fine but ultimately just remember. double toolkit for DD, toolkit + evasion aux for cruiser 
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better days will come my brother
chronic coin crisis 
Update.
I can clear D3 with mob and boss fleet, and lvling is going smoothly.
Need OIL
we all need oil 
oil is overrated 
Should I get Saint Louis from the shipyard to swap out shigure in my mob?
you could
but honestley by the time you get her to Dev 30
she'll probably be replaced herself anyway
Who?
Tashkent a good replacement for shigure?
Already have her, so it's not invite related
prioritize something that doesn't appear in the medal shop i guess 
probably dont get any of these for replacement. they all cost gold bulins which u probably dont have/should prioritize for other ships
u can replace shigure with birmingham/cleveland if u wanted to.
but also u can read this and make up your mind
u could also hang on to it and not use it for now.
if your tashkent is already MLB or if u have the spare gold bulins sure i guess.
did u do nelson ?
TBH i just thought about tosa for ijn tech specifically 
yes
then u should be fine from retro and move to the shipyard
i d say roon because u need KMS tech aka iron blood
for that i would need one more ironblood vanguard
she is a heavy ship so gives a respectable amount of points
it is very easy if u do some divergent chessboard
i guess thats after the evnt?
i woudn't advise to postpone it much
if u are missing just 1 ship
it can drop in the first map
well i guess i got everthing i needed from the shop
no one i could buy from the guildshop or something?
the objective is to get 1 ship and leave not farm it
u might need that after finishing roon which will take at least 5 weeks
okay here i go
i don't believe so
wait, hard or normal?
but there are N rarity ships that drop very often so it should be simple enough
usually u ignore normal
okay
also if the stage is very easy u don't go with full fleet for oil economy
u put unicorn in the back with 2 vanguards and that is it
how deep are u in the alsace banner
?
i trully hate the banner
Admiral hipper is in guildshop if u just need the one ship
71 pulls in and the only thing usefull was brennus
who apparently is like very mid, lol๐
800 coins?
i only got 1 alsace in 200 pulls in the 90th
so it do be like that
the first banner i did was guam and got her 140th
Duke of york any good?
just popped up in the merit shop
or should i just buy the gold bullin?
Should i get san diego for the newbie ticket?
read her wiki page
looks like a support BB which generally isn't good
her lvl 120 tech is 2 reload though which is insane
but leveling a support ship to 120 will take some time 
also tech isn't needed early game
how much medals do u have ?
i would say get her at some point. if u need the gold bulins use merit for that always first
at some point DoY would go nicely in your opsi BB fleet(s)
hood/enty > lusty > sandy imo
23k
i doubt u have 23k medals lol. I assume u mean event tokens
sorry merits
23k medals 
oh... like i said at some point DoY is fine to get. u can even get her in WA but she is rly not your highest prio at the moment
saving the rest for next weeks shop reset
oh she is in the merit shop
i thought she was in the medal shop
correct
u didn't get ur weekly reset yet ?
am i aiming for a specific stage?
mean the medal shop
oh u meant monthly reset
yes
if u farm divergent u want to farm D4 but priortize event first imo
nope just clear the stage with the minimum number of ships
not farming just looking for one ironblood vanguard to drop
it is very easy to drop the N rarity ship
also should i get uni to 125?
yes
is lusty a good vanguard?
she is a CV
dang
okay she already stacked crazy amounts of exp, just need to awaken her one more time
but she is more useful than sandy overall. sandy better after retrofit but that is a very expensive retro and more needed in ch15
why does everything in here feel expensive
and like 70% of ships are useless to beginners
they are not really useless
u can use any ship to get to chapter 12.
it is just that better options exist
gacha games are by nature a game of patience.
u could get sandy and start investing in her
there is absolutely nothing wrong with that
but it is not the most efficient thing to do at this moment
i got sandy from the first rotation in the medal shop despite renhex telling me not to do it since it will be long before starting to invest into her
she was useful to get anchorage
that is it
i get that it's in the nature of gacha games but this one is on a different lvl
this and arknight are pretty much the same
also epic 7
played all of them, non pissed me of as much as this, lol
prioritize low rarity then invest into the higher ones bit by bit since they are omega slow
do u really think that azure lane is slower than arknight
?
i remember myself starting arknight with silverdaddy and exia
it was after 3 months that i could e2 them i think
i forgot exactly how it went but it was insanely slow
i know, that's why i'm not in a hurry to get alsace. All i want is a good vanguard, don't care about the rarity
like i was using them e1 and feeling happy about that
just remember u can play the game however u want. most ppl here give advice with efficiency in mind.
if i am not mistaken u already have hood, nelson, saratoga, uni, enty
those are all end game ships one way or another. not like all your options are subpar.
but in a fleet of 12 ships it is fine to have some transitionals for now
u have 5 good vanguards already.
and there is 2 top tier in PR4 (anchorage and agir)
u will get there soon
just angry at not finishing SP after all this work you guys put in
dw about it.
there is still 16 days left.
i am sure u will clear it in a few days. just put levels on your ships
the boss need some aa too so it might be hard now
or get lucky with tech boxes 
it might be possible if u use for example nelson flag fleet to clear 2-3 mobs then continue the rest with hood unicorn 
do u have one of each of these ?
ok then gather levels and we will see how it goes by then 
farm D3 not ch10
once u finish event your 2 fleets will be ready to get u to ch12 in a day
didn't do any chapters since the event started, well besides the hard stages to get sara-kai
yeah always do hard since it is capped at 3 per day
trust me u are doing very well
not being able to farm SP on your first event is expected
next event u will breeze through everything
and again i am sure u can do it in a few days
u got lucky your first event is 23 days
some ppl started with light reruns of UR events lol
u get 7 days for that ๐
here is to hoping for the best
should i build graf spee or priz eugen for roons exp missions?
Graf spee doesn't cost gold bullins and gives good tech so spee
Shigure goes, spee comes in, sounds like a good deal
just make sure it doesnt slow down your goal for SP. u can keep spee for later. generally it is not very good to push and farm xp for CDC at the same time
It's just that I have 0 iron blood ships in any fleet
U dont need to do roon cdc yet is what I mean. She can wait for now. But if your spee is ready to replace shigure then sure that is fine
Well I can't even use spee in my Event mob fleet yet.
I might cry
Mid is irrelevant to someone with nothing
True, true
You're receiving very optimized help for clearing SP as a newbie. A lot a good ships are going to be disregarded to achieve that
Makes sense
This alright?
Having shigure in there is still a pain, but the only other option is javelin and she is too low lvl right now. Need to get Sara and Alsace up to 110 or so before I can put her in
can you actually MLB Alsace right now?
This is wrong imo. Don't have coins or cruise bp ok but the sooner you dev ANY pr1 the sooner you get meta gear. A couple of days delay ok but reconsider weeks. Non meta ships are everywhere. Meta gear is universal
I disagree somewhat
if it is convenient yes going after a PR1 ship would be prudent
but going after Roon in this case in convenient
it would require leveling IB ships none of which would particularly stronger for combat so you'd be expending additional time for such things
Done
If you don't want to sacrifice coins and bp for stl you won't for roon either
Hmm so what to do?
try to get roon asap and invest into her 3k coins / day until she is fate sim 5 then then start the pr1 catchup on her to convert her prints into protocores
Am I tripping or did I actually catch them all!?
Should I put in eppe or fleurette instead of shigure? Somehow I can't use Graf in my event fleet
This probably will have to wait until the event ends or I got enough event points to go farm story, need to lvl Graf spee for roon
But for saint I'd really only need gold and the blueprints right now.
Chapayev*- Great damage-oriented CL who increases Vanguard damage output. Has unique augment.
Graf Zeppelin - Good mobbing-oriented CV with KMS support. but can be a sidegrade/downgrade to other easily accessible options. Mainly for tech points.
Illustrious* - Support-oriented CV with decent damage. Has unique augment.
Prinz Heinrich - Great tank-oriented CA with damage and bulk.
Tashkent - Good damage-oriented DD, but can be a sidegrade/downgrade to other easily accessible options.
Tosa* - Good off-flag damage-oriented BB, but can be a sidegrade/downgrade to other easily accessible options.```
yeah heinrich might not be such a bad shout...
Okay thanks for the input
Did we decide on Heinrich?
I think u are trying to do too much at the same time
can u get heinrich and get her to level 110 by tomorrow for SP?
there is 65 total UR vouchers u can get from SP which means u need 13 days for that i.e if u start farming it tomorrow u wont lose any of that
i personally think even if u wanted KMS tech Graf zeppelin would be better since u will need KMS main ships for FdG + Agir cdc1 + avp grind and they are harder to get then the vanguards.
heinrich is a fine pick as well so it is up to u which one u want
what level are your 2 teams currently? are u getting close to the level requirement for SP?
If I take out Alsace and put nano-chan back in I should have the lvls. But probably won't be able to deal with the mobs
honestley I wouldn't bother with Henrich
how close is Alsace
she will probably be better so i guess no harm waiting a bit more.
aside from the resources
leveling her will take time
and right now you're in a good position after this event ends to make the final push to W12
True, true
I'd have to wait for the maintenance to end to give a proper answer. But I think shes about to hit 90
Sadly I just hit commander lvl 80 do less exp for my ships
I dont think that is a thing. where did u get this info 
Oh I mean there was a little buff during this event for anyone below lvl 80
oh i see. i wasnt aware of that 
anyway screenshot your fleets after maintenance let us see if u can attempt SP tomorrow
okay
Lol Nano-chan would still be 20 lvls a head of her
We will see after maint.
u might have enough to do SP
granted this SP is a bit tougher than usual
although the boss was light I believe which is a bit better for someone without AP guns
that means u are just getting the normal commander xp now
i really doubt that the event was touching the ships xp
oh nvm it was for both 
en reading moments 
so that is why new players are zooming during this event 
Should I farm for little Friedrich?
you'll probably get her just by playing naturally
OH true, sorry though the war archives rules applied
Just pulled her from the light pool, not the invite, she worth putting in?
After I can clear SP and not now
Honestly I feel like this should clear SP with poverty gear. Maybe u will have to manual the out of ammo fights
Maybe wait till tomorrow and get more levels on your Alsace
Kk
i think he is missing gear
there is 1 day left for opsi if he can speedrun it he might get some there
yeah might be a good idea to try and clear opsi ch4 at least to unlock the reset for next month if u have time. also gets some free xp for alsace
Oh dear barely done with chapter 2
u might regret not doing opsi for this month when u have 2 overkill fleets 
u can do it when waiting for morale to recover. even if your fleets die just repair and go back in.
the issue with it is
it is time consuming
Exactly
I'll just ignore the rest for today and push mit the mob fleet
i d stop everything and focus on opsi
oh i did tell u to do it 
Yes, and I got lazy ๐ฆฅ
u will see how much grinding the event was so minimal in comparison in the near future 
I'll let my phone charge up and go at it
it is okay most ppl dont do opsi their first month
dont get too worked up about it
it is of course better if u at least clear the story this month but if u cant no need to force yourself
Why is shigure still stuck at 90.
@ebon fractal I think it is worth to attempt SP today since it is the last day if u want to get all the vouchers
Fill the SP stage slots and screenshot it
Let us see if your average levels are enough
Probably worth screenshotting your gear as well. We can see if u have any red flags we should change
Up to you if u want to bother with it. I think it is worth but if u are happy farming D3 then no biggie
and I just realized that I shot myself with this one. thought the unused exp would just stack on her, but nope. so i lost important lvls that i'm missing right now for sp
Fwiw I believe u might be able to do the mobbing part with 3:2 if u manual
i think the tech of using a fleet to clear 2 enemies and the second for the rest is kinda doable too 
Possible but might not be necessary. His unicorn is 125 after all
u think her fleet can do the boss even at 0 ammo ?
No I meant uni fleet does all 7 mobs and boss for boss
But I see what u mean. Put all strongest with uni and do boss with them. And weaker fleet can do 3 weak mobs 
Currently equipped gear
Depot
can u put them like this? put kuby in the empty slot i dont have her 
give this to unicorn and upgrade it to +6 at least
give one of her aux to saratoga
use these on your cruisers
so helena, kuby, portland
- toolkit or any hp aux u have
so they will look like this
for brennus make her like this
swap nelson + hood gun
also put this on alsace and upgrade as much as u can
change shigure aux as well
she needs double HP aux
so double toolkit if u have or fire extinguisher
or try 1 toolkit 1 oxy torp maybe if u dont have enough
u can give this to laffey and give her one of laffey's toolkits
lastly change alsace aux to same as hood or nelson
u can use this as well for her
let me know if everything is done
or if u have a question
u will also need to get 1 more average level so maybe saratoga + shigure and farm D3 a few more times
if i replace sara-kai with nano-chan i have the lvls
but probably loosing out on damage that way
all of them?
i meant their main gun
good?
looks decent
but kuby and portland could use an eva aux instead of a second toolkit
okay
also what about swapping sara-kai for nano-chan, or should i take shigure out and try manuel?
also just give another one of these to shigure isntead of a +0 quintuple
i think the quint is bad anyway so u shouldnt use it
okay
finally make sure u are using this in formation when u sortie
dude the mobs are falling like flies right now
are u doing D3 or SP?
sp
u might have to manual the last 2 out of ammo nodes and the boss but give it your best shot
your ships are a bit underlevelled but otherwise pretty solid. I hope it works 
let's hope they'll perform as well without ammo
try and keep the 1-2 triangle fleets for the out of ammo fights
i forgot 1 detail
this gun is better for CLs that cant use dd guns. get it on your kuyby when u can
I wanted to tell u about that before u started but oh well
i think manual those at least
boss fleet should be able to handle 1 but we dont want the boss fleet tank to lose a lot of HP 
just fight them when u have full ammo at the start i dont think u can avoid them without too much hassle
true, and they weren't even that hard to deal with
okay one more mob and then the boss
just realized how much uni is actually healing

one mob fight and my boss vanguards got a got hit
yep especially if u get unlucky
ngl if u didnt have uni u probably wouldnt have had a chance
THAT WAS FREAKING CLOSE
only laffey lved to tell the story of the former vanguard, every other vanguard said goodbey
but freaking cleared sp for the first time
thanks sooooooo much for the help
what is EX for?
and no i'm not going to even bother with trying to clear it
few more tips to work on
+10 your BB guns and your purple toolboxes
aslo the gold catapult on unicorn
the SB2C helldiver
hell u can +10 the orca on shigure as well
and dont forget to change kuyby gun to this
good call
i highly doubt u can do that one any time soon
but also it is mostly for flex
gives 500 chips as well but not the biggest loss
if your mob fleet is strong just fight the elites with it
dont let boss take damage
nope not going to care about it
most of them are gimmicky anyway
even end game vanguards get one shotted in it since the boss gets like 1000 ACC or sth
for those ones u actually have to dodge and play the bullet hell game
but sometimes they make them easier so u can auto it with end game fleets
hopefully u get there in a couple of months
godspeed SKK and mission accomplished 


