#Fleet formation advice for chapter 13 and up.

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granite ridge
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Hello there!

north robin
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Post your w13 fleet

granite ridge
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I don’t have one made the last fleet I was using was to grind XP for Kearsarge.

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I have removed several of those characters now though, so I can redo it all.

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I can post my dock if need be

solid goblet
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Mob: Saratoga, Unicorn, Essex, Anhorage, Unzen, Laffey 2
Boss: Owari, Enterprise, Inretpid, Guam, Helena, San Diego

granite ridge
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ok. Btw what is the website for fleet building? I checked I do not have it saved yet on this PC.

solid goblet
granite ridge
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btw would New Jersey be good to add once I get her final star? I am hoping by maybe the end of this month or sometime next month to have her max limit breaked

solid goblet
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yes but with the CN Anni due in less than 2 weeks I'd hold off on max limit breaking NJ

granite ridge
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CN Anni?

solid goblet
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CN Anniversery

granite ridge
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also how exactly does that website work? Looking at it now, but not 100% sure.

solid goblet
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most likely a new gacha UR drops with it

granite ridge
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I still do not know what CN stands for

solid goblet
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China

granite ridge
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ok

solid goblet
granite ridge
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I see this but not sure how you determine what to put where? I say that because I also see the button for submarines on one side. So am a bit confused

solid goblet
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left side is main fleets, right side is vanguards

granite ridge
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Then it has those things for normal and such. Not sure what some of those tabs mean

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I see

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Do I need to swap any of the spots around? I will also show a picture of how the gear looks on each of those characters in a few moments once I take a closer look at it.

solid goblet
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Anchorage main tanks but other than that looks fine

granite ridge
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ok. That is which position again?

solid goblet
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1 in the main fleet is flag

granite ridge
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also while the levels of the gear in this picture do not match in game. This is what gear is equipped currently on the mob fleet ships.

solid goblet
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1,2 and 3 in the vanguard are main tannk, middle, and off tank

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looks fine

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don't need the ASW plane for W13 though

granite ridge
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of tank?

solid goblet
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sorry off tank

granite ridge
solid goblet
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the plane you in the aux slot on Unicorn

granite ridge
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ok

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well what do you suggest then?

solid goblet
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another catapult

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purple one if you don't have another gold one

granite ridge
solid goblet
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yes

granite ridge
granite ridge
solid goblet
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could also use better torps on Laffey 2 if you're not manualing

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but other than that looks good

granite ridge
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like what?

solid goblet
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like the quad mags you have Unzen

granite ridge
solid goblet
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these also work

granite ridge
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I have to see if I have extra. I may not due to Op Si

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I did have extra

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My gear situation is just building still so still never sure if I have all the necessary gear

solid goblet
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you don't need the best to beat W13

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just good enough is fine

granite ridge
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Intrepid btw has nothing currently equipped. I have not used her in a while. Any suggestions?

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Also how do you even export data to that website for your account. I noticed that but not sure how you do that.

solid goblet
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You can't

granite ridge
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Well then what was I looking at?

solid goblet
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I have no idea

And Intrepid uses the same gear as Enterprise, Essex, etc

granite ridge
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this is the situation for Intrepid.

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I understand that, but as I said my gear situation is still being built up. It is still a work in progress. I do not have a lot of great gear. Plus several of my Op Si ships are using my gear as well.

solid goblet
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What

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You have a spare, Hellcat, Helldiver, and Barracuda right there

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And you can always just swap gear between ships when need be

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Even between the same fleets in Opsi

granite ridge
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ok

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well I would need to then make up a gear list and save it for Operation Siren so I could swap the gear out and have a reference point.

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I can show that in a few

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Here is Boss atm:

solid goblet
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Not gonna question why you have a quad 152 and not a Tenrai

granite ridge
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I have to double check my gear for Sandy

solid goblet
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On Helena

granite ridge
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Let me check my Inventory.

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What rarity?

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but she is not a carrier though?

solid goblet
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The Tenrai is a dive bomber

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Not a ship

granite ridge
solid goblet
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No

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I'm saying why do you're have that main gun on Helena at all and not the Tenrai

granite ridge
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Tenrai is a plane though isn't it?

solid goblet
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It is

granite ridge
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That logic does not make any sense. I am saying Helena is not a carrier so how can she take a plane slot?

solid goblet
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I'm saying in your inventory

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Not on Helena

granite ridge
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That logic does not compute with me.

solid goblet
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I'm just saying on Helena so you know which gun I'm referring to

granite ridge
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You said Helena right after I asked about what ship you were referring to Tenrai on.

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Well you confused me. Your wording did not make any sense.

solid goblet
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I thought you mean which ship the quad 152 was on

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Anyway

granite ridge
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here is a majority of my gear, both equipped and not equipped just so you can see.

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that being said any suggestions based on these images I just sent?

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We can work on Op Si fleets and gear that I can save to the website after. I do also have an unrelated question to formation for a specific set of daily raids afterwards

solid goblet
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Not particularly

granite ridge
solid goblet
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For now your Opsi gear will not differ that much from what you use in campaign

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Intrepid like I said copies Enterprise and Essex's gear to a T

granite ridge
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ok well I might have to remove some gear then from Op Si fleets if I do that.

solid goblet
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San Diego copies Unzen's build pretty much just with a DD main instead of a CL gun for her main gun

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And alternate torps are the same ones I suggested for Laffey 2

solid goblet
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Exactly what I said

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Sandy prefers a DD gun instead of a CL gun

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For her main gun mount

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That aside though

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Again, why do you have a quad 152 and not a Tenrai

granite ridge
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Also, for Intrepid I do not have anymore catapults. I was only able to add one to her.

solid goblet
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Because that is some seriously questionable use of Protocores

granite ridge
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I do not have anymore and not sure if I can craft one yet.

solid goblet
granite ridge
solid goblet
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Any CV

granite ridge
solid goblet
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Aviation fuel tank then

granite ridge
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dont have any of those either. If I have the resources I might be able to craft but still looking. The following are some, but not all, of the things I can craft in the gear lab. However, I may only have the resources for one. I do not have enough resources yet for any rainbow gear. That might take me another month to get.

solid goblet
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You don't need gear lab gear to clear W13

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And if you don't have either then try openly some tech boxes

granite ridge
granite ridge
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like I said, I told you I’m still working on my gear situation. It’s still in a pretty rough state. As I mentioned earlier.

solid goblet
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And as I said you don't need the best for w13

solid goblet
solid goblet
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You should have gotten the Tenrai first with your prototype cores and not the quad 152

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You all shouldn't think of gear as for a ship

solid goblet
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Gear is situational and can be used across any number of ships and many loadouts do not differ from each other

granite ridge
solid goblet
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Why's you go for the Plymouth gun first at all though

granite ridge
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If you are referring to Tenrai Rainbow. I am at 42 of 50 bps

granite ridge
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Well this is the situation for AA guns for Sandy, but the one gun I copied over on the website from the equivalnt ship I have no spares. The ones that contain that same gun I think are in either my reworked fleet 1 and/or 2. So any advice on that?

solid goblet
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Okay

granite ridge
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I took the other quad off of regular Laffey.

solid goblet
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Steal the ones from Anchorage and Unzen and give them to Guam and San Diego

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And give Helena the Twin 90mm

granite ridge
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But then what do I put on Anchorage. That leaves me with a dilema.

solid goblet
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Give Anchorage and Unzen Quad Bofors

granite ridge
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I can craft though, if you look at my previous pictures another Twin 113, but I do not know what it would do to my resources. I would have to double check.

solid goblet
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Don't

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It's not worth the resources

granite ridge
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why not?

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well then maybe I should just focus on chapter 12 at the moment. Does not seem worth the effort at this time. I still need to catch up my hard mode nodes to chapter 12 as this is what I need to unlock Kearsarge and my current gear progress towards it. One moment

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here is the situation and every node that is not even started on here needs to be started and or completed. I haven’t finished or started the hard nodes between chapter 7 and 12 that you see. Basically everything you don’t see has not been started.

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I will show you my current setup for chapter 12 hard in just a moment

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I’ll have to compare and see how that formation contrast with my current fleet one and fleet two

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So this is what I have now. I just want to know what is recommended for the fleet. I can work on it as I get more gear.

solid goblet
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That's completely fine for W13

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Just make the changes to the AA gun set up as I suggested

granite ridge
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I think I just wait then to finish up 13 at this point until I get more gear

solid goblet
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The Twin 135mm as I said...

granite ridge
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so like this then?

solid goblet
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Not quite

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Give Guam a roomba

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And Helena the twin 90mm as I said

granite ridge
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like this?

granite ridge
# granite ridge

any advice for this formation then for chapter 12 or other hard mode nodes?

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I have not compared how close it is to norma fleets.

solid goblet
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That should be fine for W12 hard

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For W11 and below replace Essex with hood in the mob fleet

granite ridge
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Wouldn't they both do decent damage?

granite ridge
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ok

solid goblet
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Of you left Essex you would be relying solely on your vanguard to take care of them

granite ridge
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what would the loadout then be for Hood?

solid goblet
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Which yeah

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Gimme a sec

granite ridge
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ok

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I will have another question in a few. Working on something else atm.

solid goblet
granite ridge
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Any advice for this then in daily raids? I cannot beat the level 100 missions last time I tried. I want to use it in the mean time to acquire materials to awaken ships every day it is available.

granite ridge
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@solid goblet

solid goblet
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uhh

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sorry let me see

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try Hood, Owari, and Warspite on shelling using Helena, Unzen, and Achorage I guess as tank

granite ridge
solid goblet
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no

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you just need to do one

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in this case the shelling one

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is probably the best chance you have right now

granite ridge
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Does doing one auto complete the other two?

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also btw to piggy back off of what I posted in #gameplay-help a moment ago.

solid goblet
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no

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but they all give the same stuff

granite ridge
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OK

solid goblet
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there's no reason to do all of them

granite ridge
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PR 1

solid goblet
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just one is enough

granite ridge
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PR 2

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PR 3

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PR4

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PR5

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PR6 minus the last ship that I already mentioned anyway. I was trying to get a picture of that, but my game crashed on me.

solid goblet
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I guess Cheshire just so you can complete the PR3 missions and have a way to burn PR3 catchup for prototype cores

granite ridge
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That is the current situation if you have any suggestions. I wish the game would not have crashed on me

granite ridge
solid goblet
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huh

granite ridge
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I take it you do see which ones I do not have enough tech points to even start on. It is only ships in PR 5 and 6 though

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I have not developed any ships in PR3 yet. I have skipped over that one atm. I have fully maxed out development level only on Monarch, Saint Louis, and Anchorage. Those are the only ones that are done. If it were not for my credits right now I would be working on finishing AvP and FDG.

solid goblet
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yeah that's why I said do a PR3 ship

granite ridge
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In terms of my blueprints for each PR/DR ship. Give me a moment

granite ridge
solid goblet
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I can see the amount for each

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it's listed next each ship in the shipyard

granite ridge
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ok then I do not need to send the other screenshots I had ready

solid goblet
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you're not actually using the prints from PR1 catchup are you?

granite ridge
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That is Saint Louis shown there. I just have that set to build my protocore back up.

solid goblet
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just making sure

granite ridge
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What do you suggest?

solid goblet
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keep doing as you are

granite ridge
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I want to finish unlocking Kearsarge but the rng on chapter 12 hard for 2 carrier and 1 battleship gold retrofit parts is abysmal. I assume that is overall though for that rarity.

solid goblet
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we don't know

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rng is just rng at the end of the day

granite ridge
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true, true!

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yeah a lot purple and blues though for retrofitting

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which btw if I post which characters I still have in my dock to retrofit. Would you have any advice on who are worth retrofitting?

solid goblet
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sure

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though to be honest

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I don't think you have any ships left with retros that would make a substantial difference to your fleets

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so just retro whoever for collection at this point

granite ridge
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OK but give me one moment

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some of them, my retrofitted and then get rid of them until I get more space in my dock. That’s only if it’s like white or blue color. Because then I can easily form those up again because they’re so common.

solid goblet
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aside from An Shan when you have the spare specialized cores no one really yeah

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maybe Nelson and Ark Royal but yeah

granite ridge
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What do you think about London?

solid goblet
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she's a glass cannon

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which isn't a role that is particularly useful these days seeing as many can do the cannon part better

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not to mention Shropshire retro is literally the same thing but cheaper

granite ridge
solid goblet
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like I said there's no one else left you can retro who really improve your fleets

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so sure

granite ridge
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When do you think I should continue with PR 1 and 2 ships? I am fine with working on PR 3 next.

solid goblet
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whenever you decide

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for all intent and purposes of the remainder of the PR1, 2, and 3 ships are basically just collection and tech

granite ridge
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Seems to me the best course of action right now is keep farming w12 for more copies of gear. Do research projects for gear blueprints, grind out and unlock PR/DR ships and get them all the way to max FS. Also get my oil and credits or gold back up to a decent leve. Then I should worry about things like Op Si and such once I have enough gear and decent characters to be able to do harder content without switching gear around so much or worry about running out of it.

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Also get enough gems to get more dock slots. That is what I am gathering from our conversation. Which does also include doing hard mode daily to get retrofit materials.

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@solid goblet

solid goblet
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well you don't exactly farm W12 for gear prints

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also you don't really need to worry too much about oil stocks, just make sure you're farming

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and the sooner you start OpSi the better

granite ridge
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that way maybe I have a chance of getting more SR gear from tech boxes. Not really worried about doing face card research for ship blueprints with how much gold/credits they cost

granite ridge
solid goblet
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yeah that's what happens when you farm regularly

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if you do need an injection for whatever reason that's mail is for

granite ridge
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I just don't feel my ships and account are ready for Op Si yet. I feel like I need to build up a little further first

solid goblet
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it doesn't hurt to at least try

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you're not spending oil or morale and you can get 2 decent fleets going

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should at least get you through the first few chapters

granite ridge
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I understand. The main reason I say this is just due to my gear situation. I feel it needs to be in a better place before I really focus on Op Si. I also removed a lot of gear from Op Si to focus on other farming instead for now. I just feel I need to built it up and figure out the best teams for all 4 fleets before I pursue it further. There are some parts of it I still struggle on anyway. I am not worried about morale. If it gets low I just switch to another game for a few hours. I just wish my good gear was not so thinly spread atm.

solid goblet
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trust me when I say waiting to build 4 teams will just be a hinderence

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even if you can't do much and somthing is better than nothing

granite ridge
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again though I really do struggle in certain aspects of Op So. So do not feel it is worth it right now.

solid goblet
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and bearing in mind the biggest gate with getting better gear from the lab is time

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so the longer you wait the further back the grind get's pushed