#Fleet formation advice for chapter 13 and up.
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Post your w13 fleet
I don’t have one made the last fleet I was using was to grind XP for Kearsarge.
I have removed several of those characters now though, so I can redo it all.
I can post my dock if need be
Mob: Saratoga, Unicorn, Essex, Anhorage, Unzen, Laffey 2
Boss: Owari, Enterprise, Inretpid, Guam, Helena, San Diego
ok. Btw what is the website for fleet building? I checked I do not have it saved yet on this PC.
btw would New Jersey be good to add once I get her final star? I am hoping by maybe the end of this month or sometime next month to have her max limit breaked
yes but with the CN Anni due in less than 2 weeks I'd hold off on max limit breaking NJ
CN Anni?
CN Anniversery
also how exactly does that website work? Looking at it now, but not 100% sure.
most likely a new gacha UR drops with it
I still do not know what CN stands for
China
ok
pick a ship, and pick gear for said ship, pretty straightforward
I see this but not sure how you determine what to put where? I say that because I also see the button for submarines on one side. So am a bit confused
left side is main fleets, right side is vanguards
Then it has those things for normal and such. Not sure what some of those tabs mean
I see
Do I need to swap any of the spots around? I will also show a picture of how the gear looks on each of those characters in a few moments once I take a closer look at it.
Anchorage main tanks but other than that looks fine
ok. That is which position again?
1 in the main fleet is flag
also while the levels of the gear in this picture do not match in game. This is what gear is equipped currently on the mob fleet ships.
1,2 and 3 in the vanguard are main tannk, middle, and off tank
looks fine
don't need the ASW plane for W13 though
of tank?
sorry off tank
which one is that?
the plane you in the aux slot on Unicorn
Are you saying move her to the left?
yes
I might not have another one. I have to check.
I had two, but I had to then take them off of Ticonderoga in Op Si fleet 4 to do so.
could also use better torps on Laffey 2 if you're not manualing
but other than that looks good
like what?
like the quad mags you have Unzen
well then I would have to put something else on her.
I have to see if I have extra. I may not due to Op Si
I did have extra
My gear situation is just building still so still never sure if I have all the necessary gear
Intrepid btw has nothing currently equipped. I have not used her in a while. Any suggestions?
Also how do you even export data to that website for your account. I noticed that but not sure how you do that.
You can't
Well then what was I looking at?
I have no idea
And Intrepid uses the same gear as Enterprise, Essex, etc
this is the situation for Intrepid.
I understand that, but as I said my gear situation is still being built up. It is still a work in progress. I do not have a lot of great gear. Plus several of my Op Si ships are using my gear as well.
What
You have a spare, Hellcat, Helldiver, and Barracuda right there
And you can always just swap gear between ships when need be
Even between the same fleets in Opsi
ok
well I would need to then make up a gear list and save it for Operation Siren so I could swap the gear out and have a reference point.
I can show that in a few
Here is Boss atm:
Not gonna question why you have a quad 152 and not a Tenrai
I have to double check my gear for Sandy
Which ship?
On Helena
Yeah but Helena is not a carrier. It would not make sense for her to have a plane on her in my opinion.
Tenrai is a plane though isn't it?
It is
That logic does not make any sense. I am saying Helena is not a carrier so how can she take a plane slot?
That logic does not compute with me.
I'm just saying on Helena so you know which gun I'm referring to
You said Helena right after I asked about what ship you were referring to Tenrai on.
Well you confused me. Your wording did not make any sense.
here is a majority of my gear, both equipped and not equipped just so you can see.
that being said any suggestions based on these images I just sent?
We can work on Op Si fleets and gear that I can save to the website after. I do also have an unrelated question to formation for a specific set of daily raids afterwards
Not particularly
well two characters do not have any gear yet. So....
For now your Opsi gear will not differ that much from what you use in campaign
Intrepid like I said copies Enterprise and Essex's gear to a T
ok well I might have to remove some gear then from Op Si fleets if I do that.
San Diego copies Unzen's build pretty much just with a DD main instead of a CL gun for her main gun
And alternate torps are the same ones I suggested for Laffey 2
what do you mean exactly?
Exactly what I said
Sandy prefers a DD gun instead of a CL gun
For her main gun mount
That aside though
Again, why do you have a quad 152 and not a Tenrai
Also, for Intrepid I do not have anymore catapults. I was only able to add one to her.
Because that is some seriously questionable use of Protocores
I do not have anymore and not sure if I can craft one yet.
Steal one from Unicorn and use a purple one on Unicorn instead
For what ship though. You still have not told me yet.
Any CV
I do not have any purple catapaults.
Aviation fuel tank then
dont have any of those either. If I have the resources I might be able to craft but still looking. The following are some, but not all, of the things I can craft in the gear lab. However, I may only have the resources for one. I do not have enough resources yet for any rainbow gear. That might take me another month to get.
You don't need gear lab gear to clear W13
And if you don't have either then try openly some tech boxes
I doubt I have any.
like I said, I told you I’m still working on my gear situation. It’s still in a pretty rough state. As I mentioned earlier.
And as I said you don't need the best for w13
Like look you can craft some right there
Coming back to this though
You should have gotten the Tenrai first with your prototype cores and not the quad 152
You all shouldn't think of gear as for a ship
which one?
Gear is situational and can be used across any number of ships and many loadouts do not differ from each other
I am getting close I think, but not there yet.
I see you have another Twin 135mm so use that on Sandy
Why's you go for the Plymouth gun first at all though
If you are referring to Tenrai Rainbow. I am at 42 of 50 bps
It was just what I chose at the time. It was long enough ago I do not remember why I did.
Well this is the situation for AA guns for Sandy, but the one gun I copied over on the website from the equivalnt ship I have no spares. The ones that contain that same gun I think are in either my reworked fleet 1 and/or 2. So any advice on that?
Okay
I took the other quad off of regular Laffey.
Steal the ones from Anchorage and Unzen and give them to Guam and San Diego
And give Helena the Twin 90mm
But then what do I put on Anchorage. That leaves me with a dilema.
Give Anchorage and Unzen Quad Bofors
I can craft though, if you look at my previous pictures another Twin 113, but I do not know what it would do to my resources. I would have to double check.
why not?
well then maybe I should just focus on chapter 12 at the moment. Does not seem worth the effort at this time. I still need to catch up my hard mode nodes to chapter 12 as this is what I need to unlock Kearsarge and my current gear progress towards it. One moment
here is the situation and every node that is not even started on here needs to be started and or completed. I haven’t finished or started the hard nodes between chapter 7 and 12 that you see. Basically everything you don’t see has not been started.
I will show you my current setup for chapter 12 hard in just a moment
I’ll have to compare and see how that formation contrast with my current fleet one and fleet two
So this is what I have now. I just want to know what is recommended for the fleet. I can work on it as I get more gear.
That's completely fine for W13
Just make the changes to the AA gun set up as I suggested
would you still recommend that image over the AA gun and just avoid 13 for now? Also what main gun on Sandy?
I think I just wait then to finish up 13 at this point until I get more gear
The Twin 135mm as I said...
Also what
so like this then?
any advice for this formation then for chapter 12 or other hard mode nodes?
I have not compared how close it is to norma fleets.
Yes
That should be fine for W12 hard
For W11 and below replace Essex with hood in the mob fleet
If Essex and hood are such high level. Do I really need to worry about swapping them out for that chapter?
Wouldn't they both do decent damage?
The issue is suicide boats
ok
Of you left Essex you would be relying solely on your vanguard to take care of them
what would the loadout then be for Hood?
Any advice for this then in daily raids? I cannot beat the level 100 missions last time I tried. I want to use it in the mean time to acquire materials to awaken ships every day it is available.
@solid goblet
uhh
sorry let me see
try Hood, Owari, and Warspite on shelling using Helena, Unzen, and Achorage I guess as tank
for all three level 100 ones?
no
you just need to do one
in this case the shelling one
is probably the best chance you have right now
Does doing one auto complete the other two?
also btw to piggy back off of what I posted in #gameplay-help a moment ago.
OK
there's no reason to do all of them
PR 1
just one is enough
PR 2
PR 3
PR4
PR5
PR6 minus the last ship that I already mentioned anyway. I was trying to get a picture of that, but my game crashed on me.
I guess Cheshire just so you can complete the PR3 missions and have a way to burn PR3 catchup for prototype cores
That is the current situation if you have any suggestions. I wish the game would not have crashed on me
I have not even started PR3 yet though
huh
I take it you do see which ones I do not have enough tech points to even start on. It is only ships in PR 5 and 6 though
I have not developed any ships in PR3 yet. I have skipped over that one atm. I have fully maxed out development level only on Monarch, Saint Louis, and Anchorage. Those are the only ones that are done. If it were not for my credits right now I would be working on finishing AvP and FDG.
yeah that's why I said do a PR3 ship
In terms of my blueprints for each PR/DR ship. Give me a moment
ok
you're not actually using the prints from PR1 catchup are you?
That is Saint Louis shown there. I just have that set to build my protocore back up.
just making sure
What do you suggest?
keep doing as you are
I want to finish unlocking Kearsarge but the rng on chapter 12 hard for 2 carrier and 1 battleship gold retrofit parts is abysmal. I assume that is overall though for that rarity.
true, true!
yeah a lot purple and blues though for retrofitting
which btw if I post which characters I still have in my dock to retrofit. Would you have any advice on who are worth retrofitting?
sure
though to be honest
I don't think you have any ships left with retros that would make a substantial difference to your fleets
so just retro whoever for collection at this point
OK but give me one moment
some of them, my retrofitted and then get rid of them until I get more space in my dock. That’s only if it’s like white or blue color. Because then I can easily form those up again because they’re so common.
aside from An Shan when you have the spare specialized cores no one really yeah
maybe Nelson and Ark Royal but yeah
What do you think about London?
she's a glass cannon
which isn't a role that is particularly useful these days seeing as many can do the cannon part better
not to mention Shropshire retro is literally the same thing but cheaper
what about just for the skin then?
like I said there's no one else left you can retro who really improve your fleets
so sure
When do you think I should continue with PR 1 and 2 ships? I am fine with working on PR 3 next.
whenever you decide
for all intent and purposes of the remainder of the PR1, 2, and 3 ships are basically just collection and tech
Seems to me the best course of action right now is keep farming w12 for more copies of gear. Do research projects for gear blueprints, grind out and unlock PR/DR ships and get them all the way to max FS. Also get my oil and credits or gold back up to a decent leve. Then I should worry about things like Op Si and such once I have enough gear and decent characters to be able to do harder content without switching gear around so much or worry about running out of it.
Also get enough gems to get more dock slots. That is what I am gathering from our conversation. Which does also include doing hard mode daily to get retrofit materials.
@solid goblet
well you don't exactly farm W12 for gear prints
also you don't really need to worry too much about oil stocks, just make sure you're farming
and the sooner you start OpSi the better
farm it for tech boxes. Farm research for blueprints is what I meant
that way maybe I have a chance of getting more SR gear from tech boxes. Not really worried about doing face card research for ship blueprints with how much gold/credits they cost
well I am really low and run out really quick. That was my point. Before I started this run I had like only 3k oil
yeah that's what happens when you farm regularly
if you do need an injection for whatever reason that's mail is for
I just don't feel my ships and account are ready for Op Si yet. I feel like I need to build up a little further first
it doesn't hurt to at least try
you're not spending oil or morale and you can get 2 decent fleets going
should at least get you through the first few chapters
I understand. The main reason I say this is just due to my gear situation. I feel it needs to be in a better place before I really focus on Op Si. I also removed a lot of gear from Op Si to focus on other farming instead for now. I just feel I need to built it up and figure out the best teams for all 4 fleets before I pursue it further. There are some parts of it I still struggle on anyway. I am not worried about morale. If it gets low I just switch to another game for a few hours. I just wish my good gear was not so thinly spread atm.
trust me when I say waiting to build 4 teams will just be a hinderence
even if you can't do much and somthing is better than nothing
again though I really do struggle in certain aspects of Op So. So do not feel it is worth it right now.