#w14 fleetbuilding
uneven cape
seperate by vanguard/main fleet and sort by level would be appreciated. can also exclude rares and commons
molten trail
vanguards:
main:
pr: roon, anchorage at fate sim 5, fdg at dev 27, agir at dev 22
uneven cape
I am struggling with mob van 
. i will let pilica cook for u 
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Hmmmm... Tashkent is a bit of an "ancient" option, but since she's conveniently 125, I'm kinda inclined to recommend her...
My instinct would be something like...
Mob: FDG/Uni/Volga/Kronshtadt/Tashkent/Sandy, say...
Boss: Soyuz/NJ/Enterprise/Agir (although she should be Dev 25+, to get her maximum bulk)/Jeanne/Anchorage, say
There definitely are plausible substitutions, I'll say that much, but at a first glance that's what I'd go with...
See, the thing is
uneven cape
could also main tank anchorage and off tank agir
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The old wisdom of W14 is you want two healers in mob (stronger modern fleets can supposedly get away with one, they tell me)
But that leaves you with the agonising problem of dealing with ramming ships and suicide boats with just a single BB
uneven cape
FdG + uni was enough for me but his FdG isnt max so i guess he will have to wait.
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The only two ships who can pretty confidently handle this problem are FDG and UvH, because they both have proximity barrages
This essentially allows them to function as two battleships for interception purposes
Which is why I was uncomfortable just using Soyuz in the mob fleet, because I have genuinely no idea if she comfortably handles the rammers/suicide boats with just her secondary guns
molten trail
why use volga over perseus tho
uneven cape
perseus + uni is a lot of preload. u ideally want to stagger the damage
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A couple of reasons
Faerlein highlights the biggest problem, triple preload out of the opening just wastes a lot of damage and a lot of heal
Second problem is that Perseus doesn't get her second airstrike until around 30 seconds and is kinda deadweight
By contrast, Volga has the power of a full SR CV, plus her heal is targeted to your lowest health ship (the one that needs the most healing, of course) AND it scales with HER HP, rather than the target's HP, making it especially effective for destroyers, since their total HP is much less than that of a CV
uneven cape
incidentally is kawakaze too fragile for 14? cuz I thought she is better than tashkent
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Honestly, she might be lol
But I have very little knowledge about her in practice bc I never really kept track of her augment capabilities
I'm using knowledge circa 2022, when Tashkent was used to cope with her small slow to try and slow ramming ships lol
W14 actually was kinda hard back then, believe it or not 
molten trail
can i get away without using helena in boss?
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Yes, you want to avoid Helena in W14 and 15
Because syncing damage is no longer the way to go
Damage downtime = enemies live too long = your fleet takes massive damage
molten trail
and why do u put nj in flag instead of soyuz?
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No, Soyuz is flag
Sorry, I write it in uh
Weird order
My assumption (which is maybe bad) is that it's Flag/Top/Bottom/Tank/Middle/Off-tank
Actually, hold a sec, NJ should be bottom, not top
So I guess it should be Soyuz/Enterprise/NJ/etc.
uneven cape
can u double check this pilica
this is for mob fleet
https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4RgBgJggOBOANPArPAbBRAWFZtZTooGJgDsmiU2MZEAzBGHQETmwCG3n6nrOALqJg5ZhFLYwYKrnxZUMwilgRC2UpC1sO5HtwHZhosKsiJYKFHQZQiCvFRqbKWSARZZ2XffyHHgGEwGJApaQlgCQnRMNw0sbAYqSDE7Lw5fPyMRbHh4aDiUNURbe2oY4pYqWPpMT0RvTMNjMTFzMLoweHlqWB78TXj6VJ0ffWbhMEFBAEIIADoIchmUTgYAMzwGIA
molten trail
can i replace one of these twin 90mm with a sexy?
uneven cape
put sexy on sandiego. usually it goes on your best aa ship
bright compass
Looks basically right to me, except for Tashkent's gun and Sandy's toolkit (both of which I presume are just misclicks)
uneven cape
must be lol... i didnt notice my bad
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Ngl, when I was doing W14 I was told I'm supposed to use an HE gun on the BB flag but apparently everyone's come around to Georgia gun
And I'm wondering why I brought a Mk6 to +11
uneven cape
i have always heard it that u want ap gun on mob starting around w12/13 
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Note, by the way, @molten trail , regardless of how the fleet is built, I would heavily recommend everyone be Level 120 before you go into World 14, and at least a few Level 125s are massively helpful
Level difference is worth a fair bit
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i have always heard it that u want ap gun on mob starting around w12/13 <:WarShr...
Which I think is the modern standard, but we were operating with some outdated principles even as late as 2022
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Incidentally, you don't seem to have her, but uh
If you get her and want to/can invest in her
Chang Chun can replace Sandy in the mob fleet
I liked her a lot because I ran
FDG/Perseus (this was pre-Uni retro)/Volga/Kron/An Shan/Chang Chun, and Chang Chun buffs that entire vanguard
Oh yeah right, did you know that we only got Uni retro after I cleared W14
Y'all have it so easy these days
Don't worry too much about your UR gears, it's definitely not the end of the world not to have it fully UR
uneven cape
wyvern can be replaced with barracuda. tenrai with SB2C diver
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Well, OK, FDG probably wanted that Georgia gun tbh lol
But if I used a Mk6 you can probably survive with that
uneven cape
yeah or u can even use FdG gun i guess for faster barrages and more stagger
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Yep yep
molten trail
which gun is the georgia and fdg gun?
uneven cape
ok i hope this is also right. but i almost never run double BB so cant be sure if stagger is correct lol. https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4FgTggGBWaA0ZnUWWBGMiKYGyIYDM2CGA7AWdNhgEyIBE5AHAIYeeNIC6CwLaAwYIidOlXRZEE2KTooylQkOj0mrTl178MUaETSHSc0rgxV4hZdVojm7LW25gefEBmjloVCmBFEECQyLNiEiliknt7iGo5aLu7e8CIQnqii4lQSBIQSiLnUBOoIDk7OOsCemN4IaaiE9Nl4hXgihZ7F9ppOiXwYbgCE0AB0XoOweABGeAAmrEA
molten trail
This one's FDG
i do have this but not the georgia gun
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Ohhhh
molten trail
which secondary gun are best for nj and soyuz?
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Right, now I remember
uneven cape
i put anchor main tank since agir wasnt dev30
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The reason why it was Mk 6 (or Mk 7, if you had it) back in the day) is because this was also pre-FS5 for FDG, so she didn't have a barrage on fire
Ofc it was still outdated/not exactly correct info because Georgia gun isn't technically a barrage gun
Yep, that boss fleet looks solid
molten trail
do you put the radar on soyuz to spread out the damage and not make both soyuz and nj shoot at the same time
bright compass
Yep
Only thing to note
You will want to change those guns to HE for 14-3, since those bosses are light armoured
molten trail
these he guns good enough
uneven cape
do you put the radar on soyuz to spread out the damage and not make both soyuz a...
exactly. i think NJ is faster but i feel soyuz barrage is more useful so that is why i put the radar on her. u could swap em around if u noticed it is not working right in game
nothing wrong with good old purple mk6
bright compass
Nope, just use the Mk 6
I can't believe we're actually still using that in 2024, but that's how well it's stood the test of time
molten trail
Nope, just use the Mk 6
which one
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The purple one
The gold Mk 6 is super niche and should only be used in very bizarre bossing cases in Operation Siren/META Showdown
uneven cape
uneven cape
u should. it is very easy to get
molten trail
from which purple tech box
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USS
uneven cape
molten trail
alr got 2 of them
what's with this tho, i do have enough gold quad mag for all of them
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Anchorage procs her shield and smokescreen on torpedo fire
So you want fast torps on her
Faster torps = better survivability for her and for the rest of the vanguard, essentially
Her torp slot is pretty damn useless (said as someone who adores her to bits), so it's a very worthwhile tradeoff
uneven cape
also put your formation on double line
beeline to the lighthouse
and dont pick up flares
if u have subs now is a good time to use em
u can call them in for out of ammo mob fights, strong mobs (3 triangles) although u should avoid these as much as u can and the boss node