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granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:25 AM

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So I'm gonna send the dock pics and my first 2 teams

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:25 AM

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Mhm, go for it

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:25 AM

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This is what I was thinking for the bot

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And that's about everything I have

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:28 AM

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First and foremost, definitely add more levels for the two main boss fleets

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:28 AM

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Well get Anchorage to replace portland

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:28 AM

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Yeah I just switched stuff on the 2nd team

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:28 AM

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past tartan Well get Anchorage to replace portland

I can actually do that

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:29 AM

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And more PR ships as a whole

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You need a mob fleet obviously which is just Unicorn plus 5

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For 4th fleet

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Just put whatever TBH

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Could do something with Yorktown 2 and Enterprise though

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:30 AM

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That is actually a good question, the PRs are all missing it seems
Despite like three DRs

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:31 AM

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Yeah I'm not a fan of farming exp

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:31 AM

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Ahhh

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:31 AM

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So a lot of them are missing that

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:31 AM

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It's pretty trivial though

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:32 AM

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If only you could farm that with dorm exp

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:33 AM

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past tartan Could do something with Yorktown 2 and Enterprise though

Still have the stuff to MLB a UR so there's that

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:34 AM

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Incidentally, is there really no better BB buffer than Kashino 👀

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:34 AM

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Ye

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But the cow stays

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PortDoll

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:34 AM

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I'd probably put my money on Helmet first tbh

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Well, whatever floats your boat

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:35 AM

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I mean she's really tanky

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:35 AM

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I've done my share of indefensible choices, so I understand

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Crane memes and CVL memes

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Among others

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:35 AM

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There is a Dev 20 Plymouth

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:36 AM

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I'm just waiting for the time when cargo ships become relevant again

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:36 AM

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Oh I didn't realise the other pics were in another message

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:36 AM

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They were never relevant though

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:37 AM

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I mean "omg new ship class!"

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And then

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Silence....

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:37 AM

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Not surprising

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They aren't really intended as combat ships so expecting much from them is... asking a lot

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:38 AM

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A lot of ships are dead on arrival

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So Kashino isn't an outlier in that regards

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:38 AM

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So far I've only really seen Kashino and Ting An used just once, and only because certain people didn't want to use Helena and at that time there weren't Unzen/Hindenburg to just do a DPS compensation gig

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But well, use her if you want; just know that you are sacrificing something by so doing

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Also, you have two Shinanos?

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:40 AM

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Yep

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Not my proudest thing tbh

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I did it on a whim and then messed up my UR bullin count

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:41 AM

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PortDoll

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:42 AM

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olive sage But well, use her if you want; just know that you _are_ sacrificing something by...

I'm already too invested I can't go back now

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EssexWheeze

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:43 AM

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At least equips are movable

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:43 AM

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You... +13'd the Yamato gun parts PortDoll

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:43 AM

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AkagiYes

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:44 AM

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Ye hard to argue about investment there

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That's a step above

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:45 AM

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I'm just hoping for an augment so I can at least cope better and say "she's usable now"

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Back on topic tough

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Could I perhaps MLB laff?

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And put her on a York, independence team?

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Idk about enty tho

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I have her benched and haven't really actually used her

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:48 AM

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Well how many bullins do you have

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:48 AM

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Honestly, uh... trying to wrap my head around which URs you need LBing

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:48 AM

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Or can get

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:49 AM

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The 1 and to buy 3 more

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:49 AM

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It's Unzen/Shima/Laffey/Kron is it?

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:49 AM

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Yeah and ulrich

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:49 AM

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Prob hold off until CN for now, if that's all you have

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:49 AM

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Eh, I'd save for the CN Anni

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:49 AM

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Make a decision once you know what that is

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:50 AM

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granite steppe And put her on a York, independence team?

Boot Indepednence to the mob fleet

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YK2, Enterprise, plus one other

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:50 AM

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AvP, if you can get her

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:50 AM

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Maybe a bb?

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AvP?

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:50 AM

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August von Parseval, PR 4

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:51 AM

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Mmm maybe

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:51 AM

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She basically carries a slightly deprecated version of Implacable's stop, so she functions as an Implacable stand-in for a second CV fleet

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:52 AM

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For the York one or the bot one?

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:53 AM

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Since you have Shina/Haku, keep Implac with them

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AvP for Enty/York2

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Basically only bc the first fleet is stronger, so you might as well stack all your strongest together
If you had Kear/York2 it becomes a bit more competitive and you can choose which takes Implac
Although quite a few people still stick with the IJNs

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:54 AM

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Sad I don't have combat logs for pr4

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:54 AM

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Just grind it out

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You need levels on Bismarck and FDg anyway

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And always convert CDPs to prototype cores

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:55 AM

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I do have logs for pr3 and 5 anything useful there?

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:55 AM

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Yes

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But as I said convert them all to prototype cores

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:56 AM

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Why?

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:56 AM

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Protocores are more useful
And harder to come by

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Exp... is plentiful

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:56 AM

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It's a much more valuable resource than easily grindable xp

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:57 AM

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Just run an oil cap map with appropriate ships and you can clear the grind in a couple of days with the repeats tbh

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:57 AM

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A single run of 12-4 can easily net you 30000 xp for the main fleet

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:57 AM

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Esp since you have FDG and Bismarck, for example, who can MVP quite consistently

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:58 AM

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So should I farm avp or ancho first?

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:58 AM

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The agony of choice PortDoll

past tartan May 2, 2024, 5:58 AM

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Anchorage

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 5:58 AM

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I do have all of ancho's bps

olive sage May 2, 2024, 5:58 AM

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OK, then, that helps considerably

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Actually, Anchorage is coinable now too...
But BPs do save coins

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Actually, you could argue the other way right... get AvP first to coin her, then use BPs for Anch Thinkpitz

past tartan May 2, 2024, 6:00 AM

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Shouldn't matter too much either way

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:00 AM

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Might just be one of those tiny optimisations that don't matter in the long run though

past tartan May 2, 2024, 6:00 AM

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Just get both basically

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And work more on PR as a whole really

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Plymouth to Dev 30, then brest and onto PR6

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:03 AM

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So to summarize what we have by now, change Portland for ancho, work on fleet 2 lvls, then for fleet 3 AvP, York and Enty, and Independence and Uni for fleet4

past tartan May 2, 2024, 6:03 AM

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Yes

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:03 AM

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Mhm, that'd be the gist of it

past tartan May 2, 2024, 6:03 AM

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Work on levels for everything that is to be used

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:04 AM

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But what should I do for the vanguards?

past tartan May 2, 2024, 6:06 AM

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I would suggest giving Sam's Fleetbuilding Guide a read and check out ECTL I guess

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:07 AM

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Only obvious choice I can see for the second CV fleet is Hammann II

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:07 AM

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Would azuma work on any of the 2?

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:07 AM

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The mob fleet with Indy/Uni is just constructed as your stock-standard mob fleet

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Yeah sure, she's just a tank so you might as well slot her in

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Well, tank and good enough damage

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:08 AM

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Hammann huh

past tartan May 2, 2024, 6:09 AM

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Yuddachi, Plymouth

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:10 AM

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Yep
Standard practice for CV fleets is to have an Air Raid Assister, and since Kazagumo is taken she's probably your second CV fleet's best option
And she has... reasonably good AA, which helps too

past tartan May 2, 2024, 6:10 AM

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Aquila not for opsi but later campaign stages

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:11 AM

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Ngl, there's an argument Ply when ready can replace Helena in the BB fleet, because I feel like what options I would want for CVs are kinda missing...

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:11 AM

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And since I can put anything on mob I might as well put Monty on mob for a boost on independence AVI

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:12 AM

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Yep, sure
Monty isn't going in a boss fleet

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So just mob with her

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:12 AM

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What exactly does helmet boost?

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Doubt she's suitable for the last slot on mob though?

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:13 AM

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She's a gun cruiser, so... at least she can just be put in mob fleet

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She's fundamentally a debuffer like Helena base though

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Guaranteed proc for considerably lower ceiling and less active time

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There are certain kooky people who have run her with Agir/Ply for twin gun BBs but you're probably better off cycling her on 20s rather than 15s... but even then there do exist better options

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But she isn't completely unusable

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:19 AM

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Last main slot on bot could go to a bb, I was thinking of using something new like owari but since I do have NJ, I don't think I should get anything else

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And for last vanguard slot I'll just use whatever I guess

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Maybe something weird with like a colab ship or something

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:22 AM

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Sure that's fine

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The mob fleet doesn't have to be terribly fancy

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Incidentally, you have Laffey II but not Guam?

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:24 AM

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She just refused to show up

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:24 AM

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DidoCry

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Ye, RNG is sometimes utterly brutal

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:25 AM

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I'm just waiting for Yamato now

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And wishing for her to not be a loli

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:26 AM

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AkagiLUL

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:26 AM

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Since it would feel odd

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Like imagine your sister's looking like that and you just didn't grow

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:27 AM

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I hope they learned their lesson over the Anson thing lol

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Bc JP will burn the dev HQ down if Yamato is a loli I'm guessing, based on CN's reaction to Anson

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:29 AM

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When is cn anniv?

past tartan May 2, 2024, 6:30 AM

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About 3 weeks off

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:31 AM

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I wonder what we'll get

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:31 AM

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Alas, if only it were as easy as JP anniversary to be in the prediction game

past tartan May 2, 2024, 6:31 AM

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Who knows

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:31 AM

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Then again, I don't think anyone guessed Unzen...

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:32 AM

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I saw a lot of talking about yamato

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:32 AM

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There's always talk about Yamato lol

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:32 AM

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EssexWheeze

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:33 AM

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olive sage Ngl, there's an argument Ply when ready can replace Helena in the BB fleet, beca...

Is this true btw?

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:35 AM

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Yes
The usual BB fleet (or, at least, the one I use most) has Agir/Helena/Plymouth
But the issue in your dock is that there's... a real shortage of ships that I would normally put in the CV fleet, so shuffling Helena off to the CV fleet is one extra slot filled

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Plymouth is probably... the best BB-specific buffer in the game, on top of being an absolute monster

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:36 AM

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For 1st or 2nd cv fleet?

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:37 AM

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Uh... hmmm...
Honestly, I'd put in first, and shuffle off Sirius to the second CV fleet

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Reason being that the second CV fleet is better at light/medium armour, and Sirius' debuffs therefore help them more
Whereas the first CV fleet would also be expected to tackle heavy, where Sirius' buffs are weaker

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:44 AM

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So to finalize the teams would be:

1.- sashi/ guard/ biz/ agir/ ply/ cow.
2.- haku/ nano/ imp/ ancho/ kaza/ helena.
3.- AvP/ york2/ enty/ ham2/ Azuma/ sirius.
4.- uni/ inde/ NJ/ dog/ monty/ ?.

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:47 AM

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Dog is Yuudachi right
I'd shuffle her off to mob
You want a tank in fleet 3
Azuma for instance is probably safer, but other options are not impossible
NJ in fleet 4 for cross-fleet, the last mob fleet vanguard can be... honestly whatever you feel like

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 6:51 AM

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Other options rather than azuma?

olive sage May 2, 2024, 6:52 AM

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Let me see...

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The obvious answer is Laffey whenever you can MLB her...
Cheshire is not a bad option for gauge protection, although she isn't really a hard tank exactly

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Actually, Cheshire just in general isn't necessarily a bad ship to level in the absence of Guam

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 7:01 AM

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Then I guess that's about it

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Thanks for the help!

olive sage May 2, 2024, 7:01 AM

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UniHappy

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Good luck

granite steppe May 2, 2024, 7:02 AM

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I'm probably gonna be halfway done with most stuff for CN anniv so I'll choose to maybe do laffey

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