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#fighter situation
tribal berry
should I change out any of my currently equipped fighters? Is there one I should try and go for crafting next once I have the resources?
idle fable
purple corsair>purple hellcat iirc
mortal flame
The 2x 1000 lb ( flap, tiger) are upgrades over hellcats but they are lower prio than wyverns and conv tb
idle fable
your best fighter is obviously the pancake X5 something
mortal flame
Also dont upgrade random stuff above +10
tribal berry
your best fighter is obviously the pancake X5 something
should I do anything with the gold hellcat that I just got? At least once I have enough resources to get it to 10.
I’m not sure if I currently have enough resources at the moment to get it there yet
idle fable
gold hellcat is about the same as seafang, but has better aa
tribal berry
ok
idle fable
you'll get better gear eventually through research and gearlab eventually, you have a couple good starter planes
tribal berry
Thank you. Yeah, I just need enough resources, but I’ve never been able to fully get through operation siren because some of the boss ships and such and some of the nodes are too strong for me currently.
This is about how many notes I have left that I can’t currently get through. That includes redoing certain notes that have the red tornadoes swirly thing over them whatever those are called.
tribal berry
as you can see in the first image, I have like three characters knocked out. Also, I don’t think I have enough gear to even put it on all of my fleets yet. Since of course op si has you do 4 fleets
idle fable
oh that's the opsi story innit
idle fable
as you can see in the first image, I have like three characters knocked out. Als...
you can swap gear between fleets
tribal berry
oh that's the opsi story innit
I don’t know off the top of my head
tribal berry
you can swap gear between fleets
What do you mean exactly?
idle fable
red exclamation mark icons are for the opsi story maps
red spirals are strongholds, golden chests are hidden maps, red chests are abyssals, green exclamation are daily missions... the game does tell you somewhere, but doesn't rly matter that much ig
idle fable
What do you mean exactly?
you can always swap gear in opsi at anytime
so you only need gear for one fleet at a time
but yeah, do try to get stronger as soon as possible to clear the story
tribal berry
this is my current first two fleet formations for regular grinding. Especially since I’m working on that P4 character that’s the Sakura Empire that I cannot pronounce the name of.
this is what my Op Si is set to right now.
I’m probably gonna work I’m finishing up the final character in PR4 after I unlock this character . Otherwise I’m going to work on PR5 or PR6. I still haven’t finished PR1, PR2 or even started PR3 characters yet.
I can post more info on my current progress that if needed.
idle fable
yeah... this looks pretty confusing to see. show dock i suppose, I'll try to make some changes
tribal berry
yeah... this looks pretty confusing to see. show dock i suppose, I'll try to mak...
that is gonna take a few posts to get all of that out. I had to delete some characters recently for space issues. But they were like elite and lower. I did not do any gold or higher characters to make space I kept all of those in.
Do you want me to show you also my current PR ship progress?
idle fable
don't delete aurora or ARAs
idle fable
Do you want me to show you also my current PR ship progress?
well alright i can look at that also
tribal berry
don't delete aurora or ARAs
what do you mean by that can you clarify? I only tried to get rid of ones that I could easily farm again like for example once you can farm in different campaign chapters or things like divergent chessboard characters.
OK, well give me a few
idle fable
what do you mean by that can you clarify? I only tried to get rid of ones that I...
oh alright that's fine. aurora is a specific ship that's great vs light hull enemies, and ARAs boost cv damage
so while they can be lower rarity they can be still very useful and better than other options
tribal berry
PR ships will be next. I didn’t continue to post duplicate since I have to use them for enhancement material yet.
PR1
PR2
PR3
PR4
idle fable
so you should be coining pr4 ships, and then finishing up on that series for the DR ships
tribal berry
so you should be coining pr4 ships, and then finishing up on that series for the...
One PR4 ship it will only let me use blueprints not coins. my current catch-up character is still FDG since I’m working on getting her all the way up to her fate simulation. I can switch if need be or continue with that.
idle fable
One PR4 ship it will only let me use blueprints not coins. my current catch-up c...
you always use blueprints before coining unfortunately
nothing to be done
ufortunately seems like i'll have to leave for a bit, i'll be back later
tribal berry
So should I switch off of my catch up character or what do you think? Then should I work on Marco Polo after I unlock this character?
idle fable
you can ask in mainchat for help on fixing your opsi fleets
tribal berry
you can ask in mainchat for help on fixing your opsi fleets
Are you referring to the gameplay help channel or a different channel?
tribal berry
main gph channel
Which channel is that?
tribal berry
or just wait ig for me, though i'm a bit out of practise
I got plenty of time to wait
idle fable
just #gameplay-help
tribal berry
I’m at work right now so I may always have time to answer anyway.
idle fable
@tribal berry so
how many UR bulins can you afford
honestly kind of struggling to make fleets so I'll give you some suggestions to work towards
tribal berry
how many UR bulins can you afford
right now, I don’t think I can craft any. This is what the gear lab says. I can currently craft that I have the resources for, but it’s probably only one choice and that’s it.
That is in regards to gold gear not anything lower obviously
idle fable
other than the twin 128mm, none of the rest of the pics you've shown are good gear to craft,
and idk about using up your gear lab resources on that dd gun
tribal berry
I was correct I can’t craft any of them right now. I only have like 1400 materials towards it in the shop. Unless there’s another way to get it.
Yeah, I was thinking about saving it for the next operation siren
idle fable
that'd be wise
so no UR bulins available?
side note
there's a UR banner almost guaranteed towards end of may
tribal berry
If you have any suggestions for the PR or research ships or anything else, just let me know. it cost me a lot of credits or whatever the endgame currency is called. This is how far my current research character is towards unlocking.
idle fable
so. here's the thing
research has a lot of good ships, problem is, like every other ship, they need to be limit broken to be good
tribal berry
so no UR bulins available?
no, I think I used my resources to get enough to max limit break Shinano. since I’m working on unlocking the PR character, I showed you. Possibly also used it on another character recently too. However, I’m not sure of that part.
idle fable
so I want you to finish august von parseval asap
coin her of course to fate simulation 5
tribal berry
just to simplify at my current UR situation.
idle fable
in the meantime you can also research the series to pick up hakuryuu
tribal berry
what about FDG and who to set up as my catch up character?
idle fable
if you have any blueprints or exp packs for shipyard, try to turn them into protocore
tribal berry
in the meantime you can also research the series to pick up hakuryuu
series?
idle fable
what about FDG and who to set up as my catch up character?
so you can coin one DR and one PR ship at the same time. do FDG and AvP
series 4
it also has great gear
so if you can get protocore
then use it on that series to pick up on some of the gear
tribal berry
so you can coin one DR and one PR ship at the same time. do FDG and AvP
That’s what I’ve been doing for at least a week or so now if not a little bit longer, especially with FDG.
tribal berry
let me show you something. give me one moment.
idle fable
so for opsi, typically you build: 1 mob fleet, and 2/3 boss fleets
typically boss fleets are one BB fleet (3 BBs), and one CV fleet (3 CVs), and possibly an extra CV fleet (also 3 CVs)
tribal berry
this is my blueprint situation.
I see well that’s all news to me since I really don’t know how to build good fats for anything and I always have to ask advice whether it’s regular formations or operation siren. I play too many games with information overload and it’s hard to keep all that information straight.
idle fable
let me check if there's a guide around
tribal berry
Sounds good just keep me posted. I may not again respond right away cause I’m at work.
idle fable
so unfortunately there's no guide
tribal berry
Well, I’ll take any advice you can share.
idle fable
here's some of my suggestions to work towards:
1st: owari fdg(fs5) duke of york
anchorage helena unzen
2nd: enterprise - shinano - August von Parseval
guam kazagumo sirius
3rd: hood unicorn ticonderoga
san fran [high level ship] laffii
4th fleet: idk, mix in your high level ships
volga, fubuki, pr4, saratoga
tribal berry
here's some of my suggestions to work towards:
1st: owari fdg(fs5) duke of york
...
Is this for operation siren?
idle fable
yep
tribal berry
Also give me one moment showing you something real quick
wanted to show you this as well just in case you had any advice for this.
idle fable
ok so
tribal berry
idle fable
you can't change it anymore, but you really should have been more careful with skins
for f2p players, using gems on skins or that many dorm slots
basically sentences you to endlessly retiring new ships
tribal berry
well, the only skin I bought there is on Guam. Some of the other ones obviously come with retrofitting. As you can see, I did gem dorm slots, but I don’t have all of my tactical training slots yet.
also, again well, I’m still learning this game. Like I said this isn’t my main game.
idle fable
only thing they shoul've been spent on is dock, + total of 3 dorm slots first floor + second floor
yeah, already done so oh well
if you're enjoying it that's enough
tribal berry
very true. I do need some more dock slots, but obviously I cannot afford to buy any gyms right now with what I mentioned in the private chat.
Maybe one day I’ll be able to get some more at some point to kind of boost the dock situation and such out
Also, I forgot this is one thing. I also wanted to show as well.
tribal berry
In case you had any advice on tactical training. Plus the fact that I only have two slots open right now.
idle fable
two slots is good
tribal berry
not being said. Given what I’ve shown you any further advice on the current situation or just keep grinding for that one PR character that I’m working on and then finish up PR 4?
idle fable
if you had more it would've been bad from a gem economy point of view
books aren't that abundant
having three slots+ often just leaves you with no books early game
plus at some point you stop having useful skills to train
at my stage I usually just leave my academy empty
since i don't rly have anyone to skill level
other vets either do the same or just level skills for completion's sake
tribal berry
not being said. Given what I’ve shown you any further advice on the current situ...
I see so what’s your overall opinion based on this message?
idle fable
as for which skills to level
tribal berry
that is for my account currently.
idle fable
if it's a good ship you're using for difficult content
you level all their skills to level 10
as for which order, tbh I've never really paid attention to that
all is the answer, so yep
you have the rapid training event rn
tribal berry
well, for the current character, I’m working on for PR ships. One of the biggest things is to try to get enough of those whatever they are that are gold colored for carrier. the ship XP from doing battles and the research will come with just time. It seems like it takes a while to get the carrier gold thing needed for that one objective.
idle fable
you can take advantage of that, use your rainbow books>gold books in prio
tribal berry
you can take advantage of that, use your rainbow books>gold books in prio
what are you referring to for this?
idle fable
you mean retrofit materials? yeah hard mode farming
"you can quickly finish a class 10 more times today."
basically instacompletes your skill trainings
tribal berry
"you can quickly finish a class 10 more times today."
How do you do that? I forget, if I ever knew that is.
idle fable
don't do it yet, but the "finish now", just click on that
tribal berry
well, also, regarding those trainings. Do you have any recommended characters that I should finish their skills leveling? I think the ones I currently have in there were recommended to me recently.
idle fable
i'd suggest taking 12hr or 8hr books and using those quick finishes on those
10 is a lot, you might even run out of books, this rapid training campaign lasts for two weeks+ i think
tribal berry
I see
do you have any recommendations though for my overall account for example PR ships, campaign, gear. etc.
again, though I will say, for example, FDG is my current catch up character that I have set at the moment.
idle fable
well, for the current character, I’m working on for PR ships. One of the biggest...
so for retrofit materials, you get them in hard mode, higher world the better. you get guaranteed gold ones by doing 3 star missions for hard mode
X-4 is for carrier retrofit mats, X-3 for BB, X-2 for Cl/CA iirc, and X-1 for dd
idle fable
again, though I will say, for example, FDG is my current catch up character that...
yeah that's fine
my core message is this: finish everything in pr4 asap
tribal berry
so for retrofit materials, you get them in hard mode, higher world the better. y...
well, I will tell you that right now I have trouble figuring out which characters to use for that. Especially since I’m currently currently working working on unlocking a PR ship. Which not all of the characters I’m using for that are allowed in the current hard mode node or nodes that I’m working on.
idle fable
marco polo isn't that useful, but completing her allows you to finish the DRs faster
since in the research academy, completed characters won't show up in D-series researches (if you know what I'm talking about)
idle fable
well, I will tell you that right now I have trouble figuring out which character...
it is what it is
just use what characters can fit. if you're lacking stats (probably torp?) there are some torp auxiliary gears you can use to pad on the trp stat
also sort characters by stat
pr1 to 3 aren't rly that useful nowadays, except for fdg
tribal berry
this is my current progress for hard mode. However, I don’t know how many of the nodes between world 1 and world 7 are at safe level yet. I probably need to switch some of the characters in those formations around. However, I’m not sure which character to use since it limits you so much.
idle fable
hm. have you gotten to world 12 on main campaign?
every player should aim minimally for that
tribal berry
which, by the way on that particular node that I’ve three starred. I am struggling a bit, so I probably need to change things around.
idle fable
you unlock the hard mode version of a world by 3-starring every stage of the normal world (which also gives you much needed gems)
tribal berry
yes, I’ve already gotten that world to Safe and all of the nodes unlocked. I just can’t get past 13 – one just yet because my characters and gear aren’t strong enough yet.
tribal berry
you unlock the hard mode version of a world by 3-starring every stage of the nor...
yes, I am aware of this. I just haven’t finished all of them because you can only do three runs a day. Plus like I said my current formation on the current chapter I’m working on has been struggling a bit.
idle fable
you can stay in w12
people literally stay there for years
tribal berry
but that means you should've unlocked hard mode w12
I can certainly try aiming for that. However, I need some help with hard mode formations to get from world seven up until that point first.
idle fable
alright let me take a look
tribal berry
all of the chapters before seven has been three starred on both hard and normal. other than that, the chapters past seven normal and hard are only unlocked on normal mode and I’ve only started progressing the normal mode ones.
idle fable
but, and i'm sorry if you know already, you can skip directly to w12 hard mode if it's unlocked
tribal berry
but, and i'm sorry if you know already, you can skip directly to w12 hard mode i...
yes, I know. I just don’t know what units to use and what gear to use for that. Plus, I don’t know how much I’m gonna have to switch around on characters that I’m currently using the farm for that PR character to do so. So I would need some serious advice on that if I did switch to hard mode on chapter 12.
idle fable
so yeah the ships you're using arent great
you have better ships, like shinano or the essex class cvs (essex, intrepid, ticonderoga), saratoga
throw out hiryuu or souryuu
warspite is also okay as a bb, but if you have owari that's better
any fleet with unicorn should be a mob fleet
and sandy is not a tank, use anchorage for that
tribal berry
do you need me to post my current fleet formation situation and my full gear situation? I didn’t post my entire gear situation earlier only a small portion of it. I already posted my form that I’m currently using to grind Haryakuu or however, you say or spell her name.
do you know what in that case? Let me just post my entire gear situation again. Do you need me to repost my fleets again?
Sorry, I have to keep editing. These post voice to text is a pain in the butt sometimes.
idle fable
here's some fleet suggestions, as an example:
mob fleet: hood unicorn ticonderoga anchorage [] laffii
boss fleet: owari shinano enterprise Guam unzen san diego
oh sorry
nvm need more dds and cls didn't read
hm your levels are high enough, still having trouble in hard w7? i'm genuinely not sure what the issue is, are your ships dying in there?
tribal berry
here's some fleet suggestions, as an example:
mob fleet: hood unicorn ticondero...
Laffey one or two? I have been suggested to use two not one.
idle fable
oh yeah
idle fable
i'm honestly uh
tribal berry
there you go for your review. Obviously I didn’t really feel the need to post the entire gear situation or the entire crafting situation.
idle fable
use this as a rough guide for gearing
if you don't have any of the shown options
use purple poverty gear
tribal berry
I’ve already been using that, but it doesn’t seem to be the greatest guide as a lot of the gear it shows I don’t have or I don’t have a lot of. That’s the issue I have with that website.
idle fable
i see...
tribal berry
I sent you some images of most of my gear earlier. I posted my current two fleets with their current equipped gear. As I also just reposted, I posted another picture of my current two fleet formations for grinding that PR character. I’m working on.
Obviously, though I didn’t show all of my current owned gear because at some point, it becomes irrelevant with the lower tier gear
idle fable
yeah no problem.
eugh. sorry it's quite abit to think of at once
so. normal laffey isn't the greatest
so if someone suggests laffey, it's always the UR version they're talking about
tribal berry
no worries. Like I said, I have a lot of games with information overload so it’s hard to keep track of everything.
yes, well both my original Laffey and the second version are both at UR now
idle fable
unless it's about a newbie without the UR version or said person doesn't have a lot of dds at all
idle fable
yes, well both my original Laffey and the second version are both at UR now
both at UR?
UR is rainbow rarity, only one is
the og laffey is golden rarity now
tribal berry
Yeah, sorry I just realized I made a mistake. My bad.
I must’ve been thinking of another character
I had to double check that a moment ago
idle fable
also, gph (gameplay help) uses a lot of acronyms/abbreviations
tribal berry
since I have both versions, and obviously the UR version is recommended. With the pictures I just posted and reposted. What advice do you have?
idle fable
laffii = laff II = laffey II
tribal berry
yeah, I get that. Overall, though based on what I just posted and reposted, what is your opinion or advice on what to grind, what to do about formations for hard mode, etc.
idle fable
backline wise, change to what i said
mob fleet: hood unicorn ticonderoga (can swap with another good cv)
boss fleet: owari shinano enterprise
front line wise, in w7 with that level advantage should be good enough
just to make sure, you've read this guide before yeah? https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding#just_started
tribal berry
oh, and by the way. In regards to unlocking that PR character that I’m working on. I’m about a little over halfway towards the final battle XP objective. Then I just need to finish off the research project one and get the retrofit materials for carriers and I’ll be done.
idle fable
oh, and by the way. In regards to unlocking that PR character that I’m working o...
unless that character is coinable, people don't care if you've unlocked said character or not
what matters is the blueprints you have for them
since that is by far the longer timegate
tribal berry
just to make sure, you've read this guide before yeah? https://samheart564.githu...
I think I’ve seen it before, but I’ve not sure if I’ve made the time or have the time off hand.
tribal berry
mob fleet: hood unicorn ticonderoga (can swap with another good cv)
boss fleet:...
I assume is this for all hard mode nodes or just 7?
idle fable
for the specific ship suggestions inside of it you can (mostly) ignore them since they're mostly for complete newbies only iirc
nvm it's not newbie only
tribal berry
I assume is this for all hard mode nodes or just 7?
Are those changes for just chapter 7 hard or chapter 7 hard and above?
idle fable
for above too
if you can manage it
fdg is obviously a lot better than hood
hard mode has hull requirements so you'll have to adjust
tribal berry
OK, well what about currently grinding just to unlock the character I’m working on. since I do need Sakura empire ships for that.
idle fable
for shipyard exp grind
tribal berry
should I just focus on unlocking the character first and then worry about grinding hard mode?
idle fable
the usual advice is use whatever ships are of the correct faction and that's it
tribal berry
well, how much longer do you think that would take taking out those other Sakura Empire ships?
idle fable
if you need backline sakura ships, pick any non max level sakura ships to level and that's it
tribal berry
if I read what you posted correctly. That only leaves like very few of that faction ships for grinding out the ship itself. I have to double check what you wrote again.
idle fable
well, how much longer do you think that would take taking out those other Sakura...
i have no idea, some people do those missions in like 1-3 days, i take around a week
tribal berry
Well, the two in the mob fleet are not maxed out yet. They’re only a little past 100.
idle fable
if they're maxxed out that's fine too
tribal berry
I’m literally at 52% with the current two fleets that I have for the combat XP portion. Since I’ve already finished the first part of the combat XP.
idle fable
non max level is just so that you're not wasting the exp while grinding
if your only choices are max level ships they'll still count for shipyard exp grind
just, the exp you earn on them (ships you use for farming) won't be very useful for themselves
tribal berry
I see. Well just let me know what you think. I almost feel like at this point. I should just finish unlocking the character, and then I can worry about changing my fleets around for hard mode and such. that’s just what I feel like they don’t. You’ve said if you have any other advice, let me know.
idle fable
I'd change my fleets first
tribal berry
OK, but how many Sakura Empire ships does that leave me with if I do
idle fable
you have sub 100 blueprints for hakuryuu rn i think
tribal berry
lmc
idle fable
it'll take a very long while for her to become useable/good even if you have her unlocked
so unlocking her faster genuinely doesn't rly matter
it could take a month and it wouldn't change much
also changing fleets for hard mode
is just to make it easier
you'll still get the same rewards as long as you're successful
i'll have to go for now
tribal berry
idle fable
sub 100 = less than 100
idle fable
iirc 512 is how many you need for DRs for Dev30? i kind of forget
tribal berry
here's some fleet suggestions, as an example:
mob fleet: hood unicorn ticondero...
I think you’re missing someone in mob main fleet here. I only count two ships there.
also, what you recommended here doesn’t leave me with any Sakura Empire ships in my mob fleet. Which of course is doing most of the work up until boss. So I won’t be getting any XP for that.
Which means I’m missing out on a lot
tribal berry
idle fable
also, what you recommended here doesn’t leave me with any Sakura Empire ships in...
why are you farming exp in hard mode?
you should be doing that in normal maps
tribal berry
no, I mean for the regular chapters. the two fleets I currently have set up a farm regular chapters. but if I switch my up in regular, I will hardly be getting any XP for that character I’m farming to unlock. I can use your suggested characters in hard mode when I do the three a day. but that won’t help me grind out the character I’m currently farming XP for.
Sorry if I worded that correctly and I’ll have to fix this because of voice to text being screwy again
I think voice text hates me honestly
idle fable
@tribal berry
and yes I was specifically talking about hard mode
for pr grind, feel free to use whichever sakura empire ships you have for it
idle fable
if you need backline sakura ships, pick any non max level sakura ships to level ...
as per ^
tribal berry
thank you I couldn’t find it. Maybe my discord was just being weird.
tribal berry
and yes I was specifically talking about hard mode
what units for vanguard? This is 12-1 hard.
also I will have to figure out gear due to limited amounts of decent gear.
idle fable
vanguard ship recommendations:
mob fleet: laffey 2 (tank) / san francisco / san diego
boss fleet: Guam (tank) Unzen anchorage
@tribal berry
pay attention to gear, laffey for example needs at least one eagle union gear
tribal berry
I can show you that situation in a bit when I get a chance
idle fable
remember that hood should be in flag position
tribal berry
looks like I need some help with organizing them in the right position. Also, it won’t let me do 12 – 1 with that formation. Not sure what I need to fix.
I haven’t looked at 12–4 yet
tribal berry
ok. well, at least one of those ships doesn’t have any gear on it. Since it’s not in my current formations. Not officially sure how many don’t have gear of those characters. OK, I will look into it.
tribal berry
hhhhhhmmm
idle fable
San Fran would be best in middle too
tribal berry
like this?
idle fable
Guam or anchorage are tanks
tribal berry
ok
idle fable
Better than unzen at it. Hence, move one of them to the front, in this case Guam, to front tank, and anchorage as off tank (last position)
Unzen middle
Although
Given the trp stat you’ll likely have to replace one or more of these ships to get more trp stat
tribal berry
one moment
like this? Going to check that stat in a minute and let you know if I have any questions.
idle fable
remember that hood should be in flag position
Hood ^
tribal berry
having a hard time resolving the torpedo stat situation. I wonder if it’s because some of my characters don’t have any gear on them that are listed here. I have no idea.
