if i post my dock here can someone help

[elfin sand]

ok this is the dock

[steel lintel]

👍

[elfin sand]

uploading slow

this is the last below:

[steel lintel]

Remind me, what did you want help with?

[elfin sand]

this was supposed to be the first picture of at the start of the 9 above

i just have no idea what im doing, surely there must be a way to do something to make my dock take up less space

[steel lintel]

I understand.

First of all, you know about limit breaks right?

[sudden solar]

If you can retrofit unicorn, she's good for healing and mob clearing

[steel lintel]

You should be using ship copies for limit breaking the original copy

[elfin sand]

im familiar with the concept from other games

[steel lintel]

Alright! Here in Azur lane you limit break ships by either using bulins or copies of said ship

[dapper quartz]

there needs to be a real cleanout of dupes

[steel lintel]

You have a lot of copies, you can start off by doing that with any copies; example enterprise is at lv51, and you have three copies of her; use two for limit breaking

[elfin sand]

ok so basically just feed all the dupes into one

[dapper quartz]

Hood, Enterprise, Unicorn, Portland, Laffey, Javelin/Helena

[elfin sand]

for every ship that isnt a bulin?

[dapper quartz]

use that to clear up to W9 for now

[elfin sand]

iirc they are exp or something

[steel lintel]

There is no use for any duplicate ships

[elfin sand]

whats w9

[steel lintel]

Chapter 9 of main campaign

It’s where the “oil cap” mechanic starts getting implemented

Which leads to a great increase in farming efficiency, I.e. resource and exp to oil

[elfin sand]

is a bulin a 1:1 stand in replacement for a dupe

the gold ones

[dapper quartz]

for limit breaking yes

[steel lintel]

Pretty much. A bulin works as a universal copy for the appropriate rarity

[elfin sand]

ok so for example i used one dupe on enterprise. now it needs 2. should i use the other enterprise and a bulin to increase it again?

or are bulins a scarce/valuable resource

[steel lintel]

Gold ones can only be used on gold ships, but they literally work on every gold ship (except the research ones)

[dapper quartz]

I wouldn't call bullins scarce but they are time gated

so if you misuse them you will run into a bottlekneck

[radiant basin]

theres no point in raising dupes, use other enterprise + bulin

[dapper quartz]

esepcially UR and SR Bullins

[steel lintel]

You can get up to eleven a month I think with a built account who does pvp? Other wise nine

[dapper quartz]

use dupes first if you have them but for good ships don't shy away from using bullins

[elfin sand]

no thats not what i meant, i was going to feed it into the one i have leveled already

i just need 2 instead of 1 but i only have 1 more enterprise

[radiant basin]

exactly what i said, use other enterprise + bulin for the enterprise that needs 6*

[dapper quartz]

Enterprise is worth the bullin

[elfin sand]

so is enterprise worth using a bulin on

[dapper quartz]

all these ships are worth using bulluns on

use that as your one fleet for now

[elfin sand]

oh sorry i missed that

back when i used to play this game like 5 years ago

there used to be a tier list for auto only gameplay and manual only gameplay

is that still a thing

[dapper quartz]

most don't manual

[steel lintel]

There’s just one tierlist here and it’s for auto play

[narrow yarrow]

most just straight up auto, esp when youre mid to late game

[steel lintel]

Though there is a Chinese one too

[radiant basin]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/cl

[steel lintel]

Don’t use it too religiously

[dapper quartz]

yes quite

some tierings are a bit iffy and they don't consider investment/cost when tiering

which can and will play a role in which ships to use and level

[elfin sand]

i see

[steel lintel]

It’s a helpful resource to start you off, but depending on what you’re doing some will be more useful than others

[elfin sand]

there are a bunch of ships with white backgrounds, i assume those are common/normal quality. are they only ever used for fodder to level up/enhance other ships? what about blue/purple ships?

[radiant basin]

chinese have a tierlist for ships that are best to 125, that might help you understand what to prioritize 👍

[steel lintel]

So just blindly following the tierlist is a bad recipe

[elfin sand]

is chinese ahead of global

[dapper quartz]

considering the language barrier

and CN's own shortcomings

[dapper quartz]

no, all the main servers are fully synced now

[steel lintel]

Commons are usually used to enhance other ships, but there are some other applications

[narrow yarrow]

for normal rarity they usually used to enhance otehr ships, for blue and purple ships depends

[steel lintel]

A few blue/purple ships are useful, especially early game

[radiant basin]

scrap most* purples/blue for medals, use only commons to enhance

[elfin sand]

im kind of annoyed you need to level up the ships to limit break them

should i level them up to get rid of the dupe or keep the dupe

i was looking at enterprise and cleveland specifically

[dapper quartz]

You can scrap all elite and rare dupes for medals

[steel lintel]

I’d probably keep the copies if they’re elite/gold and lb them when you can

[elfin sand]

i would assume enterprise yes

[dapper quartz]

No

[steel lintel]

But you can scrap elite and rare copies if you don’t have enough space

[dapper quartz]

Keep the enterprise dupes to use for limit break fodder

[elfin sand]

what does scrapping do

turns it into fodder for something else?

[steel lintel]

Turn them into a pitiful amount of coin and some medals

[radiant basin]

gives you gold and medals

[dapper quartz]

Gives you medals among other things

[elfin sand]

what do medals do

[steel lintel]

It’s basically just trashing them

[radiant basin]

see medal shop

[elfin sand]

oh

[dapper quartz]

Which you can use to buy stuff in the medal shop

[elfin sand]

its a currency

[radiant basin]

most notable things are 2x gold bulins + 2x SR ships of your choice and recently added extra 1000 spec core

thats at least 220 medals/month, not counting 2x SR + other things

[elfin sand]

thats in the medal shop...right

[radiant basin]

yep

monthly > medal

[elfin sand]

man i have no idea why i have leveled up so many ships

0 brain no idea what a gacha game was me 5 years ago really was something else

oh so you can use the gold bulin for lbing gold ships and the purple ones for purple ships

i thought they were different somehow

[radiant basin]

yes

and rainbow bulin is for rainbow ships, excluding decisive research ships

though that's very scarce so plan it carefully, main rainbow fleet ships take priority over rainbow vanguards

[elfin sand]

is the only purpose bulin have limit breaking or can they be used as fodder to level up ships

[radiant basin]

lb

[narrow yarrow]

usually for lb

[dapper quartz]

using them to enhance would a tremendous waste

[narrow yarrow]

only use commons for enhances

[elfin sand]

oh

ok yeah i went to hit fill on the enhance screen for enterprise and it filled with commons

are there any commons i should lock and not feed as exp

id imagine if so the list is quite small

[dapper quartz]

just keep one copy of each and toss the dupes

[elfin sand]

ok

[steel lintel]

Nah all commons are pretty easy to get even if you scrap them, (except the uzuki class ones)

[radiant basin]

i wouldnt even keep the copy of each, all they do is take dock space

and youll be flooding your dock with them on daily basis

[steel lintel]

And yeah they’re pretty useless, though a couple have good fleet tech

[dapper quartz]

some of them will be needed for momentos

[steel lintel]

Which shouldn’t be your concern at your stage

Oh forgot abt momentos

[dapper quartz]

and keeping track of which you do and do not have at any given point is a right pain

[narrow yarrow]

same lmao

[elfin sand]

you guys said unicorn is the goat right

worth raising

i just realized i have two

nice

[narrow yarrow]

Unicorn retro yes

[radiant basin]

absolutely

best mob healer

[narrow yarrow]

[radiant basin]

[elfin sand]

how do i know what level the ship will get to when i hit fill

i see the stats are increased on the enhance screen but i dont see a level anywhere

or is that a different screen

[dapper quartz]

enhancing a ship doesn't increase their levels

it increases some stats

[radiant basin]

yeah thats because enhancing "only" raises stats

and it works until lvl 100, over 100 you cant enhance any more

[elfin sand]

so how do you level up a ship

i need unicorn to be level 10 to lb her

[radiant basin]

maps/dorm/books

[narrow yarrow]

you either use the exp books/dorms or use em in combat

[radiant basin]

you should have some books, feel free to use them

[elfin sand]

what screen is that

[radiant basin]

they might be scarce at the beginning, later its not a concern

[dapper quartz]

tap the boost xp text

[elfin sand]

ohh

ok

i have 250 of the blue books

so i used 2 and it forecasted i would get to level 10

but im level 11 and a half

is there some random chance to get bonus exp

or some kind of an event

[dapper quartz]

well your ships start at level 1

and 2 get's you 10 additional levels

[radiant basin]

i scrolled above and your uni is at lvl 99, so what are you using them books on?

[elfin sand]

i have no idea lmao

i just reinstalled this game after like 4-5 years of not playing

[radiant basin]

if ur uni is on 99, focus on doing her retrofit

[elfin sand]

wait

i thought i only had 2

they were both level 1

[radiant basin]

you need only one

the one with 99

no point in raising duplicates

[elfin sand]

oh

oh

man

its part of a fleet

thats why it didnt show up next to the others...

[elfin sand]

you only ever need 1 of 1 ship right

[radiant basin]

u want her retro to be done asap

[elfin sand]

you wont ever need 2 of the same ship to be used in two different fleets at the same time?

[radiant basin]

nope

[elfin sand]

ok

how do i remove everyone from my fleets

[radiant basin]

formation > click on a ship > change/remove it

[elfin sand]

gotcha

[radiant basin]

if you want to swap gear, click "info" first and then select a ship

[elfin sand]

why cant a fleet be empty

[radiant basin]

this screen

can also change gear in dock

[elfin sand]

oh

they say they are "unique" and cannot be recalled

[steel lintel]

Well you only need one non empty fleet, and that’s because

You can retire any ship that’s not in a fleet

[elfin sand]

fubuki and akagi

[steel lintel]

So imagine someone retiring every ship they have

They’d be completely locked out of doing anything or getting resources or new ships

[elfin sand]

i dont know what the word retire means in this context

[steel lintel]

It’s scrapping a ship

[elfin sand]

i just wanted to remove all my ships from all my fleets to make them show up next to each other in the dock when sorted by rarity

[steel lintel]

I’m just explaining why the game forces you to have at least one non empty fleet formation

[elfin sand]

i see

i dont really understand, but maybe thats okay for now

[steel lintel]

Not important anyways yeah

[elfin sand]

ok so if i have more dupes

and that ship cannot be limit broken anymore

i can scrap the dupes?

[radiant basin]

yes

[elfin sand]

is there a better way to handle it

[radiant basin]

scrap

[steel lintel]

Retrofitting can also need dupes by the way

[narrow yarrow]

retrofitinng can either use dupes or bulins

[steel lintel]

But yep if they’re max limit broken and you don’t need copies for retrofit then just scrap (retire) all the extra copies

[elfin sand]

i just looked at all the locked icons in the retrofit page for unicorn, i dont see an icon of her anywhere so im assuming they dont need dupes

this is how far i got

[steel lintel]

Sorry I got it wrong, the last one needs a duplicate

[elfin sand]

why is mine purple and yours is gold

[radiant basin]

because ship changes rarity once retro is done

[steel lintel]

That’s what happens after doing the last node

[radiant basin]

common becomes rare, rare > elite, elite > SR, SR > UR

[elfin sand]

oh i see

so basically if the thing at the bottom that shows u the mats you need

if you see an empty icon with a + you need a dupe

[steel lintel]

Or a bulin

[radiant basin]

not necessarily a dupe, bulin will do

its either bulin/dupe

[elfin sand]

right

how do i retire a ship? i found some portlands that i dont need

[radiant basin]

build > retire

[elfin sand]

the one i have leveled has a completed retrofit and is cant be lb anymore

oh its in the build section

[sudden solar]

There's an auto retire too

[elfin sand]

ok so going over what we talked about earlier with the common ships

it looks like i have a locked one of each common

should just unlock them and feed them to enhance

it seems like they arent ever really going to be useful

[radiant basin]

yeah

they are taking dock space

[elfin sand]

do they enhance for more depending on if you have enhanced the common already

[dapper quartz]

well some of them will get you gems

[elfin sand]

like i have one thats level 81

[radiant basin]

you might want to raise beaver squad for beaver tag auxiliary

but thats not really a priority for now

[radiant basin]

100% collection

[dapper quartz]

have you disposed of all the dupe commons, rares, and elites yet?

do that first

[elfin sand]

i have to a point

i kept the dupes of ones where i need a higher level to lb them

or ones where i have 1 dupe but need 2 to lb

[dapper quartz]

don't bother if you're not going to use them

[elfin sand]

yeah i just have no idea if im going to use them or not

[dapper quartz]

limit break them now or just dispose of them if you want the dock space

most of them you won't

[elfin sand]

well im down to 211/240

and i joined a guild earlier

so that will get me 30 more dock space

[dapper quartz]

there's a reason we reccomend just one fleet for the early game

[elfin sand]

well

yeah i dont think you're wrong or anything

i just know too little

[radiant basin]

up until w9 one fleet is enough

[elfin sand]

looks like im at around chapter 7, stage 3 for main story

[radiant basin]

then you want to focus on getting one fleet for mob and other one only for boss

[dapper quartz]

in this context I mean up to W9

early game as a whole though in my books is up to W12

[elfin sand]

ok

is what you wrote earlier my best fleet? lemme see if i can find it again

[dapper quartz]

yes

[elfin sand]

this

[dapper quartz]

Hood, Enterprise, Unicorn, Portland, Laffey, Javelin/Helena

[elfin sand]

ye

if javelin has her retrofit done

i guess i should use her over helena then

[radiant basin]

remember to put hood on flag

and port on frontmost position

[elfin sand]

whats a

oh

i found it

i really dislike you cant sort by name

its so hard to find the ships

[dapper quartz]

just use the search by name feature

[elfin sand]

oh i didnt realize that was a thing

ty

dang my hood is lv1

[radiant basin]

and u might want to get hood's augment

it significantly boosts her performance

[dapper quartz]

I rather doubt they have the resources for it

[radiant basin]

yeah, but maybe

[elfin sand]

So like this

[dapper quartz]

yes

[elfin sand]

ok maybe this thread is getting off topic if i start asking about other areas of the game

thanks everyone for helping me clean up my dock

i actually installed the game like 2 years ago looked at my dock then uninstalled it cuz i didnt know what to do

[radiant basin]

you might want to read both of these

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/newbguide

will help a bit

[elfin sand]

yeah im slowly scrolling through that on my browser rn

ty

[dapper quartz]

Not the ECTL's newb guide

It's rather dated

[radiant basin]

its not updated for w15 but still relevant according to author

[dapper quartz]

Yeah...

Take that with a massive grain of salt considering it's snub

everything was pretty much written before 2021 and a lot has changed about the game since then

the fleets receccs don't take into account the existence of the guild shop, oil caps aren't mentioned at all, and it has some of it's descriptions for the drop ships welll....

[elfin sand]

alright i'll keep it in mind

im focusing more on the other link anyways

[dapper quartz]

"They’re very powerful even if strictly they do lose out over longer fights to the other IJN carrier pairs. They have an extremely early launch, far ahead of other carriers which will help you clear maps quickly if you bring them together."-2020

-2024

[elfin sand]

huh

but i already have them

[dapper quartz]

I was just using it as an example